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epwpixieq-1

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #135 on: May 02, 2009, 03:25:37 PM »
Guys,

Did someone ask Mylow to show his device working NOT on the desk where he is showing it on the videos. If he is so open for opensourcing it ask him, via Sterling D. Allan who apparently communicates with him, to show his device working on different places outside of his apartment.

Lets apply some rational thinking in our exotic energy search !

SAS

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #136 on: May 02, 2009, 03:37:12 PM »
Mylow:
We would sure like to see your magnet motor work.  Please make more videos.  If this thing really works as you have shown it over the past 3+ weeks - please allow two people to see it, and visit with you somewhere.

I would be happy to be one of those people (I live in TX, USA).  I really do want to believe what you have shown is a working model and please make more videos and post them. . .

Many years ago - When I was young, father enjoyed the time he spent with several different magnets.  I remember seeing him moving them around trying to make things happen.  I have some 200+ different magnets that I experiment with on a regular basis and I am 70 years old now.

Please show us that it works. . .   MYLOW: You can still be a hero.
All be safe.   J.

« Last Edit: May 02, 2009, 04:13:25 PM by jaldam »

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #137 on: May 02, 2009, 04:22:02 PM »
Hi guys!

Sorry to jump in here
I found the right thread finally!

I wonder if the mains 60 hz from the lamp may be the source of the circulating eddy currents?

I hope not . But if any of you have a setup ,  I would be grateful if one of you could try this , I would find it helpful as it is the only thing that may be an external influence.

In many of my coil (tpu) experiments I found that lamps send out a substantial magnetic field.

I did ask this question in the other thread but the ego's are way to high there and I dont want to sound negative.

I am working on something else and perhaps it is relevant for some of you.

It would mean placing a source of  ac like a transformer or a lamp on one side of the device and see if it makes it easier to ramp through.

An aluminum mass below the device would short this out.

It would be important that the setup was almost exactly like Mylows

Please dont take this as a criticism . I hope this may be of assistance.

I fully respect the efforts you guys are making .

Lindsay




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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #138 on: May 02, 2009, 04:49:55 PM »
Guys,

Did someone ask Mylow to show his device working NOT on the desk where he is showing it on the videos. If he is so open for opensourcing it ask him, via Sterling D. Allan who apparently communicates with him, to show his device working on different places outside of his apartment.

Lets apply some rational thinking in our exotic energy search !

SAS

Very good point but this Forum is supposed to be used for the discussion of construction topics. - -  I asked Mylow but he has never ever responded to me in any fashion, even when I offered very unique information that I found two months ago that originally came from Howard. It appears that his 'sponsors' may have forbidden him to contact me. They (Sterling Allan)  told me that all communications must go through them first because "Mylow hadn't figured out how to do the email thing very well yet"  Yet when I viewed his YouTube sites he apparently had little difficulty expressing himself to others. I  think that Jim and several others asked him similarly about the presentation issue but Mylow apparently has not responded.  - - - He certainly knows how to make the video and he knows what it needs to include. I'm wondering why he did not include even the one most obvious exhibit that would have removed the vast majority of the major doubt about that one thing most people are 'sot of' wondering.  I think I know the answer to this one. - - Al Witherspoon

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #139 on: May 03, 2009, 12:53:45 PM »
Good job wattsup
  If you have the time maybe you could replace the stator mount with a plastic material to see if it is acting like a brake against the disk.
  lol I had no idea you are from the windy city. i laugh because of the pizza wars.Deep dish or thin crust that is.
 The wave form in your vid is very interesting. Would you be interested in some ideas to try out with regard to that wave? it will take me a good while to locate enough magnets to give this a whirl myself.
 

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #140 on: May 04, 2009, 12:12:56 AM »
Hi guys!

Sorry to jump in here
I found the right thread finally!
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Lindsay

Welcome to the group Lindsay! As you may have noted it is
not to coherent or vocal, lol, I do hope someone will take up
your question/suggestion. I have the basic rotor but no
magnets so am not in a position myself. But just wanted to
say how I have always savored your TPU posts.

Best regards,

Ron
 



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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #141 on: May 04, 2009, 12:18:08 AM »

wattsup

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #142 on: May 04, 2009, 01:09:36 AM »
I posted this on the other thread but wanted to put it here also because I feel this is where we will successfully crack this.

@all

I have been thinking and thinking and testing with my wheel to see why Mylow can do this and why we are having a harder time and I think I have finally figured it out but activating it on my Pizza wheel will be difficult because of all these neos but I gather not impossible, but I will have much better chances when I get my real aluminum wheels on Monday.

But to the builders, think about this.

We all know that when we put too many rotor segments around the wheel, we lose the individual segment motion and produce what I call the magnetic crowning effect where the magnetism is like totally the same around the whole wheel. And therein hides the answer.

I think that Mylow manages to do is put his rotors in such a manner that he is just a tad away from creating the crowning effect, which is bad for forward propulsion movement. So his rotors are set-up just off the crown effect. It is the stator that is making the final addition that sends the rotors in and out of the crown effect. When the rotors are out of the effect, their polarity exerts directionality, when the rotors fall into the crown effect because the stator now moves to a connecting position, the rotors crown instead of producing a sticky on the stator. When they crown, their effect is neutral permitting the rotor to pass the stator as if they were not even there.

I think this is where we have to concentrate our skills to perfect or permit the stator to make the crown connection because this is exactly like a magnetic on/off switch. Crown on, let stator pass sticky, crown off, push wheel further.

Much more fun to come.

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #143 on: May 04, 2009, 01:57:59 AM »
OK, based on my previous post here is an idea for a set or standard rotor placement procedure regardless of the wheel diameter, etc.

1) Map out on the wheel in at least 7-8 quadrants.

2) Start by adding one rotor in the center of each quadrant.
3) Then add one rotor to the left of each rotor already in place.
4) Then add one rotor to the right of each two rotors already in place.

5) Once you have three rotors in place, try the stator and see if you can go through a segment. Try it in each segment. Even if the stator sticks on the exit this does not matter, as long as it can move through the first two.

6) Then add one rotor to the left of each three rotors already in place.

7) Then repeat step 5 through each segment. If all goes well and the stator can pass through the first three magnets, continue.

8) Then add one rotor to the right of each four rotors already in place.

9) Then repeat step 5 through each segment. If all goes well and the stator can pass through the first four magnets, continue.
 
10) Then add one rotor to the left of only one of the five rotors already in place. This means add only one rotor to only one segment.

11) Then repeat step 5 through each segment. If all goes well and the stator can pass through the first rotors even if it sticks to the last, continue.

12) Then repeat steps 10 and 11 adding only one rotor at a time and then doing the stator test.

13) Eventually, when you add another rotor, you will then notice that the stator no longer travels through any of the segments because you are now in the crown effect. Remove that rotor and this is where you will need to be when you then experiment with the stator positioning.

14) If you want, you can then place the removed rotor in another segment just to see if the crown effect comes back. If it does, remove it and try it in the next segment. If it does not, leave it there and add another rotor. This will reinforce the notion that the crown effect will happen and you need to stay just one rotor out of it.

But the general idea si for all builder to use a standard rotor placement logic. Guys that already have fully populated wheels that have the stator moving through all the segments but still sticking on the outlet can simply use this procedure as a guideline to add a few more rotors to the wheel. You may be just a few rotors away from the crown effect and need to come a little closer to it.

All the best.

wattsup

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #144 on: May 04, 2009, 02:22:44 AM »
To share a thought that seems to lead me where I want:

I've been trying to cause an offset gradient at each rotor segment, like the Mylow segments display. That is the 'sweet spot' is near one end of a segment and when released the stator 'wants' to go to the other end of that rotor segment with more than expected acceleration.

Or to use current terminology: The crown is near one end only of a segment.

The way working for me - place a rotor mag - place the next one with a gap of about two-thirds of the mag width. Each gap after that is 'very' slightly less.This has been easy with small groups of rotor segments but the more mags in the segment the lower the difference. I have no idea how this could be possible on his current build.

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #145 on: May 04, 2009, 02:23:51 AM »
Just a note of encouragement here.


I am of the, as yet un validated opinion that the alluminium disk is vital .

If i can find a big  alluminium disk around I will join in the build fun with you guys here.

This is  a small step but a very important one ...every replication is a step towards where we will be ...the question is when... and how many steps...and how many step!

Grab those old vcr's from the bubbish heaps  as the bearing assemblies are always good

The best to you all


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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #146 on: May 04, 2009, 04:47:49 AM »

IotaYodi

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #147 on: May 04, 2009, 04:51:41 AM »
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Eventually, when you add another rotor, you will then notice that the stator no longer travels through any of the segments because you are now in the crown effect
Would there be some way of removing or discharging the crown effect?
 Im only researching magnetic fields at the moment, but I found a statement made by Ed L. on magnetizing rods in both the South and Northern hemispheres. If a rod is magnetized in the North,the magnetized south pole part on the rod is longer. If its magnetized at the equator they are equal. Would I be wrong in assuming that it would have the same effect on any shaped magnet? It would seem if you were trying to use the "Center"  of a magnet as a guide for building anything,then it would throw things off. Sweet spot as it were.
Or is this negligible?
 Has anyone tried a weaker northpole at 180 degrees +or- minutes,seconds,as an offset, for attraction,just barely enough to attract,along with a  southpole repel?

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I've noticed that replicators seem to be using one stator magnet, which is different from what Mylow is using.

I grabbed a frame from one of Mylow's recent videos that shows the two stator magnets and the offset between them. This is obviously one of the keys to the operation of the thing.


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I've noticed that replicators seem to be using one stator magnet, which is different from what Mylow is using.

I grabbed a frame from one of Mylow's recent videos that shows the two stator magnets and the offset between them. This is obviously one of the keys to the operation of the thing.

He started off with one stator working motor.. Two is supposed to make it a self starter. LRCan1's mylow backup page: http://www.youtube.com/user/LRCan1