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Author Topic: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant  (Read 815518 times)

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2385 on: July 20, 2019, 10:39:49 PM »

Two weights following each other around a circular path under Newtonian gravity will extend the spring on the going down side and compress the spring on the going up side.



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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2386 on: July 22, 2019, 10:56:26 AM »

https://frankgrimer.uk/pendulum.gif


I was trying to get the gif show up directly by attaching it
but as you see it only shows the first frame.


You will just have to click on the link I'm afraid. That will
take you to my website.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2387 on: July 22, 2019, 11:49:39 AM »
This is just a test to see how it handles a jpg.
It seems to do it just fine. That's good.  :)

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2388 on: July 22, 2019, 03:49:18 PM »
This shows the expansion-compression regions for a train of 360° pendulums.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2389 on: July 22, 2019, 04:00:01 PM »
Of course, these tension and compression regions exist in any wheel rotating in a vertical plane.
They exist in the form of tension and compression strains.
However, these strains are so minute that even someone with the experimental
skills of a Nikola Tesla might have difficulty in actually measuring them.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2390 on: July 24, 2019, 06:46:33 PM »
https://frankgrimer.uk/wheel%20stuff/3D%20Pendulum2.mp4


I thought I'd lost this. I couldn't find it among my chaotic website so I had to ask for Dr Robotnik's (a.k.a. Edwin)
assistance.


Interestingly enough it's the same shape as you get with a solid mobius strip.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2391 on: July 25, 2019, 08:17:13 PM »
Here's a model I made by twisting a plastic tube and joining the ends.


Sorry about the advert but I suppose I should count myself lucky that
PB didn't just ditch all my images when they suddenly changed from
free hosting to some egregious charge which I wasn't prepared to swallow.


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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2392 on: July 29, 2019, 06:22:52 PM »
I was discussing with Robotnik how one might extract the 3rd derivative precession kinetic energy from the action of the 360° full circle pendulum (FCP) and he came up with the following rough sketch.



However, I've come to the conclusion that 3rd derivative energy is only going to provide a relatively small free energy production, far less than is being claimed by Sjack. I believe he must have found a way to employ higher derivative energies, although not as high as the snap crackle and pop derivatives of military tank busting ordnance.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2393 on: July 30, 2019, 01:31:00 PM »
   I watched his vid where he showed the "D" arrangement and that prompted me to set up an experiment using linear tracks to follow that shape. All is good on the curves but when it gets to the corner into the straight line, there is such a force side ways as to jam the track and not want to move at all.
   Not a total loss there as it made me see an older idea with new light. Will be trying that in the next few days when I can get the parts all together and parts printed.  Got to love that 3D machine for proto work.
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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2394 on: July 31, 2019, 05:24:49 PM »

I was going through Prof. Laithwaite's controversial fourth Christmas lecture:-


https://www.rigb.org/christmas-lectures/watch/1974/the-engineer-through-the-looking-glass/the-jabberwock


.....  when I came across the following section about 50 minutes in.


I didn't appreciate it the first time I watched it many years ago but I
certainly do now. He had implicitly discovered 3rd derivative energy.




Below is a transcript of the relevant part of the lecture.
 
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(50min 21sec)


However distasteful it is we now have to say the the object
has something more than mass. It's got a mass, and a mass only, so
long as we want to push it about in straight lines, weight it, accelerate it, and
so on.


But if we ever come close to spin it - it has another property all of its own
which corresponds to the inductance of a coil.


This is the updating of Newton's Law of Motion.


But I am not saying that Newton's Law of Motion is wrong. I am merely
pointing out that they are restricted to motion in straight lines and to motion
where there is no rate of change of acceleration
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(Pointing to the ammeter)  (51min 10sec)


No rate of change of current for Ohm's Law.
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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2396 on: August 03, 2019, 09:06:01 PM »
I was going through Prof. Laithwaite's controversial fourth Christmas lecture:-


https://www.rigb.org/christmas-lectures/watch/1974/the-engineer-through-the-looking-glass/the-jabberwock


.....  when I came across the following section about 50 minutes in.


I didn't appreciate it the first time I watched it many years ago but I
certainly do now. He had implicitly discovered 3rd derivative energy.

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Later in that video he shows what are effectively a series of pendulum, or what would be a series of pendulums
if the had been free to rotate independently at the axle and not rigidly connected. This might have led him to
recognise the change of angular momentum, i.e. the third derivative of position with respect to time, precession
kinetic energy.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2397 on: August 05, 2019, 09:28:36 PM »
IF YOU ALL ARE NOT BOTS, YOU'RE DOING AN AWFULLY GOOD JOB AT PRETENDING.

YOU SOUND LIKE ALL THE SAD AND CONFUSED VOICES I SEE ON THIS FORUM.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2398 on: August 06, 2019, 12:07:38 PM »
Sooo, does this gravity power plant work or not? If not (most probably not), It's interesting that this thread consists of 160 pages, and 2698 replies... ::)
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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #2399 on: August 07, 2019, 11:17:27 AM »
Sooo, does this gravity power plant work or not? If not (most probably not), It's interesting that this thread consists of 160 pages, and 2698 replies... ::)
Vidar
Hopefully, within a year or two we might see. We've never had photos before so that's a good sign.  :)