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Author Topic: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant  (Read 656064 times)

Offline Dusty

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #915 on: April 19, 2009, 03:02:14 AM »
Just another update.  I found some old plywood curve shapes and tried them on the wheel.  Like I say this is all guess work which will give me ideas to build the next test.  This video is just to show what I'm working on because once I make a big change it will be too late to see what I've tried.  If you see something I should try, just let me know.  The weight only needs to go 1 1/4" higher to reach the hockey stick slot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THC9mx7W1hg

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Offline LarryC

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #916 on: April 19, 2009, 06:18:33 AM »
Just another update.  I found some old plywood curve shapes and tried them on the wheel.  Like I say this is all guess work which will give me ideas to build the next test.  This video is just to show what I'm working on because once I make a big change it will be too late to see what I've tried.  If you see something I should try, just let me know.  The weight only needs to go 1 1/4" higher to reach the hockey stick slot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THC9mx7W1hg

Dusty

Very good Dusty,

But could you try to cut your guides closer to Eisenfickker2000's shape.

I also don't think your double pillows are a problem with friction. There friction ratio should be extremely low and a non issue. In fact, based on my testing, they should reduce any warping pressure that would result in much higher friction.

Regards, Larry



 

Offline Philip Hardcastle

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #917 on: April 19, 2009, 06:26:13 AM »
Anyone here remember Dr. Eugene Podkletnov?

He reported that a spinning superconductor disc would reduce gravity by a few percent.

Not wishing to throw in a red herring it does seem to me that if he were right then one side of the wheel could get 10% less gravity and perhaps somehow the other side get 10% more gravity.

Whatever happend to Eugene.

He actually rang me from Finland when I suggested there could be a reason for the effect based upon differential electrostatics. He was most interested that I predicted certain phenomena with a theory that said gravity might not be just about mass to mass attraction.

Phil

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Offline Philip Hardcastle

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #918 on: April 19, 2009, 06:31:46 AM »
He asked me to talk to some italian mathematician (modonese or something) but I did not.

I cannot recall but I think the Italian professor published a paper trying to explain the effect and how it would fit in with conservation of energy. I guess (and I have not read the paper) he must have suggested energy came from the universe in the direction of the gravity reduction.

Perhaps someone might dig and find more.

I however still hold the view that a simple lever etc wheel will not work, so I feel perhaps we should think outside the circle, so to speak.

Phil

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #919 on: April 19, 2009, 06:45:16 AM »
I found this article about gravity and some experiments to show gravity might be modified.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19225771.800


Also Eugene Podkletnov is on wikipedia

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Offline Philip Hardcastle

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #920 on: April 19, 2009, 06:50:25 AM »
I never published my theory but for what it is worth I argued that at a particular frequency (not calculated) of an electrostatic field a superconductor would exhibit a shielding effect to gravity.

I note that since then there have been tests to look at a magnetic inflluence. It seems to me that such would be interchangeable with electric fields. The critical frequency would be a sort of resonance of the material with respect to the time constant of electron orbitals. Perhaps if someone is up to date with the research they might care to let me know if I was on the right track.

Phil

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #921 on: April 19, 2009, 06:53:01 AM »
Like I said, anyone who holds the view that a simple lever wheel, especially in Abeling's embodiment, will not work should prove that rigorously. Stating over and over again that such wheel will not work, only based on hunch, is meaningless.

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Offline Philip Hardcastle

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #922 on: April 19, 2009, 06:57:59 AM »
@omnibus

Was the previous comment referring to me?

Phil

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #923 on: April 19, 2009, 11:58:17 AM »
It will not work for now because something is missing.

I am looking for that something

@moon orbit: No, because the force of gravity between these two bodies is not unidirectional like on earth you cannot translate these orbits to a wheel on earth. Well, you can, but it will not work

There is something else

You cannot have a constant imbalance in a wheel unless....

Talk to me Bessler, you greedy bastard.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #924 on: April 19, 2009, 03:35:48 PM »
Hi Dusty!

I'm very impressed with your replication build.  You are off to an excellent start.  Nice work!

I have been posting your videos on the www.peswiki.com website for all to see.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:SJack_Abeling_-_Gravity_Wheel_-_Weight_Power_Plant

When I read the Sjack patent english details, I had the understanding that there is a center rod that connects the opposing weights for a dual lift system.  If you added the connecting rod into your test, it may eliminate some of the friction you refer to by allowing the two lifting systems to work together.

Just a thought.  Keep up the good work.  I'm looking forward to seeing your end results.

Preston

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #925 on: April 19, 2009, 03:41:32 PM »
It will not work for now because something is missing.

I am looking for that something

@moon orbit: No, because the force of gravity between these two bodies is not unidirectional like on earth you cannot translate these orbits to a wheel on earth. Well, you can, but it will not work

There is something else

You cannot have a constant imbalance in a wheel unless....

Talk to me Bessler, you greedy bastard.

LOL you have it in for poor Bessler now you do haha 10 years of study before he got the answer, he must of worked very hard to find that the answer was simple  ???

edit: IMHO I dont think bessler used a ramp to guide the weights up the wheel, I think they purly lifted themselves up and dropped down by some special mechanism that he sought, we need to study his MT (the wheel drawings that he left us) he hints at certain ones giving us a good idea which ones need combining so then making it possible to look for the movement... if you look at MT 20, I think I may have worked it out when he says about putting the horse before the cart, I think it means swap the two weights around, not the levers, just the weights, because a weight on a longer axle has more force near the axle that it pivots on meaning a light weight can lift a heavy one, there is also reference to it on the apologia...

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Offline broli

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #926 on: April 19, 2009, 05:34:00 PM »
Here is the proof of how some can ruin it for the whole world;

http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2874

This is the kind of attitude that disgusts me, having it unfold before my eyes is even worse.

Here you have a lad that is a bit shy to share then come in these money hungry old farts and ruining it for everybody else. How can the world progress like this? I'm sick and tired of these people.

Offline AquariuZ

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #927 on: April 19, 2009, 05:44:59 PM »
Here you have a lad that is a bit shy to share then come in these money hungry old farts and ruining it for everybody else. How can the world progress like this? I'm sick and tired of these people.

If it is any consolation: I do not think "BAR" has anything spectacular. He has not even a prototype or model yet and claims he has found the "secret" of gravitation. and a bridge to sell in IRAQ.

Maybe for the "Truth" section, but believe me, we do not need money nor government to survive.
If the long fingers keep it up more and more people will disconnect and stop playing the game voluntarily. (easy)
Look for Jacques Fresco & Peter Joseph.

Offline AquariuZ

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #928 on: April 19, 2009, 05:56:36 PM »
edit: IMHO I dont think bessler used a ramp to guide the weights up the wheel, I think they purly lifted themselves up and dropped down by some special mechanism that he sought, we need to study his MT (the wheel drawings that he left us) he hints at certain ones giving us a good idea which ones need combining so then making it possible to look for the movement... if you look at MT 20, I think I may have worked it out when he says about putting the horse before the cart, I think it means swap the two weights around, not the levers, just the weights, because a weight on a longer axle has more force near the axle that it pivots on meaning a light weight can lift a heavy one, there is also reference to it on the apologia...

Sidestepping to Bessler here (basically trolling my own thread  ;D )

The key seems to store the kinetic energy generated by the gravitational pull on the weights and share it back between the lifting process and the rotation of the wheel.

Springs come to mind.

Just for reference, MT20 here: http://www.orffyre.com/MTHard020.gif
« Last Edit: April 19, 2009, 06:16:53 PM by AquariuZ »

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #929 on: April 19, 2009, 06:06:49 PM »
Ignore the new clone of @alsetalokin with the new handle @BAR. Don't be gullible. These @Tinsel Koala's of the world are paid (maybe not only monetarily but in various other ways) to act in these "innovative" ways of fighting for the party line, so that the rest of the incredible nasty nonsense going on in science, massively misappropriating billions of dollars in public funds, is well protected. Obviously, the powers that be, elaborately stealing from the public billions of dollars under the pretense of doing "proper science", have found out that in the age of internet that's one way to fight what they perceive as the wide-eyed garage-geniuses who, God knows, may suddenly stand in their way if something not under their control pops up in their basements and home workshops.   

 

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