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Author Topic: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant  (Read 662504 times)

Offline Omnibus

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #870 on: April 17, 2009, 02:35:46 PM »
YES

This does ring a bell, thanks for posting the details about this.  Again all the more interesting when taking all factors into account .

I am currently working on the initial "egg" model to see if I can find the optimal configuration where hopefully we should see something extraordinary. Note I do not expect to see any Hayasaka / Takeuchi mass reduction effect in a model. I do however expect to see "something" in a correct real world setup.

But hopefully modeling can be used in finding this setup including the correct paths the weights need to travel to achieve the imbalance which will accelerate the carrier.

Yes. The "egg" model is the way to go. The devil is in the proper form of the track, if that is to be real. Hayasaki-Takeuchi mass-reduction effect is just a curiosity and is irrelevant here even it it's real.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #871 on: April 17, 2009, 02:49:54 PM »
Yes. The "egg" model is the way to go. The devil is in the proper form of the track, if that is to be real. Hayasaki-Takeuchi mass-reduction effect is just a curiosity and is irrelevant here even it it's real.

I disagree because I think it could cause an imbalance in a spinning carrier

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #872 on: April 17, 2009, 03:48:04 PM »
Take a look at this pages, could that be the right egg-shape?
http://www.evert.de/eft778e.htm
http://www.evert.de/eft782e.htm

/Tommy

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #872 on: April 17, 2009, 03:48:04 PM »
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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #873 on: April 17, 2009, 03:53:16 PM »
Since my last video of my theory of operation, I have built a device.  It is not finished and that will take a few more days.  I changed some of my thinking on how it works since the patent was released just a couple days after my last video.  I need to build the tracks next and that will take a bunch of experimenting.  You have to realize this device is only a starting point.  If it works right off the bat, well fine, but otherwise I will rebuild the wheels and tracks as necessary.  There are several factors to consider such as diameter of wheel, placement of slots and their shape, weight of the dumbells and probably most important is the shape of the tracking system.

Video here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAjWbVwmcXc

Thanks, Dusty.

(I have that user name because of all my woodworking I do.)

I'd like to echo the positive sentiment with regard to someone finally attempting to biuld one of these. You've done a fantastic job so far. My only suggestion might be with regard to the ends of the 'hockey-stick' cutouts. There doesn't appear to be a lot of 'meat' left between the cutout and the edge of the wheel. If these 5 pound weights get flying with any force, they could easily break this area out. You might want to add some strapping along the edge in these areas. Just a suggestion.....

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #874 on: April 17, 2009, 04:05:22 PM »
Take a look at this pages, could that be the right egg-shape?
http://www.evert.de/eft778e.htm
http://www.evert.de/eft782e.htm

/Tommy

Very, very interesting, especially the second link. Just take the RV claim with a grain of salt it looks interesting..

So much to read, so little time.  :(

Thanks Tommy

edit: look at this too:
http://www.evert.de/eft784e.htm

Especially the inward swing on counter clockwise motion.

Wow

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #875 on: April 17, 2009, 04:27:25 PM »
Take a look at this pages, could that be the right egg-shape?
http://www.evert.de/eft778e.htm
http://www.evert.de/eft782e.htm

/Tommy

That's indeed very interesting. Would it be possible to invite this guy over here in this forum to have him aid us in constructing what he calls potatotrack? The solution is in the proper form of the track, nothing else, if there's something to Abeling's claim, this is how I see it. Probably Stefan can get in touch with him and invite him over here. The guy is in Germany, isn't he?

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #876 on: April 17, 2009, 04:37:15 PM »
That's indeed very interesting. Would it be possible to invite this guy over here in this forum to have him aid us in constructing what he calls potatotrack? The solution is in the proper form of the track, nothing else, if there's something to Abeling's claim, this is how I see it. Probably Stefan can get in touch with him and invite him over here. The guy is in Germany, isn't he?

Agree 100%

And, if you choose to venture into the gray, you may ask him & his people to Remote View the Abeling device.

No joke, he claims this is how they go the plans, by RV.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #877 on: April 17, 2009, 04:40:16 PM »
The potato shape reminds me of Ralph Love´s 2004 Patent (6,694,844)

This one..

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #878 on: April 17, 2009, 04:48:57 PM »
Wonder if Abeling has read this guy's account prior to constructing his wheel?

As for remote viewing you should ask the greatest expert on the subject - Hal Puthoff. I don't think it's applicable here, though, despite what Evert says. Some of his physical considerations, however, are worth looking into, There's slight language barrier, however, making his points not always clear enough.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #878 on: April 17, 2009, 04:48:57 PM »
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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #879 on: April 17, 2009, 04:58:52 PM »
Wonder if Abeling has read this guy's account prior to constructing his wheel?

If you mean Evert´s: unlikely.

If you mean Ralph Love: you bet.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #880 on: April 17, 2009, 05:16:58 PM »
In theory, no. But to show you the math I am not the one to do so..

Yes, perhaps so from a standing start, however as the speed increases the CF increases exponentially, then the picture is quite different.

Is gravity enough to reach a speed high enough to cause a surplus?

Hans von Lieven

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #881 on: April 17, 2009, 09:53:44 PM »
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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #882 on: April 18, 2009, 12:36:32 AM »
I have created a new page on www.peswiki.com for the SJack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the worlds first Weight Power Plant.

Please help to update the page with new content.

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Excellent Preston, great to see the materials getting around...

Hopefully we can "nudge" Sjack into publishing his theory soon.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #883 on: April 18, 2009, 12:47:50 AM »
@all

Could this be a clue in our quest?

Weights hitting padded versus unpadded surfaces creating an imbalance in the rotation

Video of rotating wheel by L. Tseung

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zykButGc22U&feature=channel

Another thing:

Did anyone ever try the Wang Shum Ho experiment?

Take a glass bowl with water
Take a four legged stool and place it upside down on the bowl
Have four people put their right hand on the tip of one leg each of the stool
what should happen is that the water starts to spin
then the bowl and stool
Now switch hands and use left hand to change direction of spin

Sounds so far fetched it is probably true  8)

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The “mysterious movement of water in a bowl under a 4 legged stool” is real and logical. Hundreds of tests at Tsing Hua University successful

I am falling deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole here

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #884 on: April 18, 2009, 02:01:05 AM »
Nobody seems to think the idea I posted earlier is worth modeling. So I took the time to do a crude GIF animation to illustrate what I was trying to say. There are several ways to improve on the design. It is not self-starting, but needs to be spun up fast enough that balls will exit with enough momentum to get back up to the top.

There are several ways this design can be optimized. Adding some padding where the ball hits the hub will allow more kinetic energy transfer from the impact. The number of spokes might need to be changed to allow the ball more (or less) time to hit. The tube or chute curvature and length can be modified to shorten the path back to the top, could even be shortened more so the balls impact the spokes horizontally instead of vertically.

It's just a start. It should be modeled with a reliable simulation software to see just how feasible it really is.

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http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=get267

 

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