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Author Topic: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant  (Read 711468 times)

Offline Alexioco

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #195 on: April 09, 2009, 01:18:02 AM »
Ok here is the wheel again, notice that the edges are now straight (except for the top round part) I have drawn one by the side of the wheel exactly how they should be just incase i have not drawn them all precisely.

As far as I know, it is exactly the same now, "if" there is anything different, then time will tell through watching the footage...

Edit: You probably know this but, the reason I have coloured them black is to indicate that they are cut outs.

There are two wheels side by side, both wheels have this "cut out" pattern on them, I'm wandering weather the weights roll inbetween the two wheels, like clindrical weights with poles each end so they can roll. Just a thought, might be wrong...

Alex

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #196 on: April 09, 2009, 01:23:09 AM »
Snapshot.

Things i cannot place marked in red.

This could very well be a construction which is supposed to go between the plates.

Look at the bottom one, rotate left, what do we see? Looks like a stopper barrier to me.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #197 on: April 09, 2009, 01:26:09 AM »
Pushing the stack with what? You have already expended any potential energy that was there on your Newton's cradle effect. That part is easy, it is also the part that requires the least energy. Moving the stack takes many times the energy required to bounce one ball. Where is that coming from?

The guy is another Chas Campbell.

Hans von Lieven

Sure...

Anything else you would like to constructively add, or is this the extent of your creativity?

Never mind.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #198 on: April 09, 2009, 01:29:05 AM »
if you look at my above post, you will see the changes, also, the picutre you posted are good, it looks like some bars near the bottom, run through the wheel, weights may be able to swing on them, dont quite know how that fits with the pattern though, hmm...

Alex

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #199 on: April 09, 2009, 01:32:30 AM »
If you see as I see, these two stands slide out, are pushed together and slid back in between the two halves to...

...form the cradle.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #200 on: April 09, 2009, 01:38:22 AM »
oh yes, i can see where it curves at the bottom, then going up. maybe i can get the shape of the two pieces each side which are pulled out, it curves at the bottom quarter (6 to 9 on the clock) then at 9 it seems to go straight into the axle.

Alex

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #201 on: April 09, 2009, 01:54:53 AM »
oh yes, i can see where it curves at the bottom, then going up. maybe i can get the shape of the two pieces each side which are pulled out, it curves at the bottom quarter (6 to 9 on the clock) then at 9 it seems to go straight into the axle.

Alex

Side view (more or less)

Red is just part of the regular wheel stand

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #202 on: April 09, 2009, 02:00:25 AM »
I Hope the kinetic thing works out,

in the meanwhile i am trying to get the K.A.D. system to work better. (Never bet on one horse  ;D )

Due to the restrictions of the WM2D program , i had to gear similar setups together because the program does not work (or i do not know how) work in 3D.

I keep you guys informed about the progress, but now i do need some sleep..   :o






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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #203 on: April 09, 2009, 02:20:02 AM »
When i look at the pictures from the movie, t seems that his "curve" is made out of two peaces with a gap between them, the only reason for that gap i can think of is that the upper "curve" can move......  flip, turn .. or something...


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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #204 on: April 09, 2009, 02:20:31 AM »
Seems ok, i cant quite put it all together though, i can't understand why those round holes are in the pattern, they must have some relation to the rest of the pattern, this one really has me stuck :P

ahhh I may aswel say it, I am currently working on a wheel of my own, its not finished yet, i was going to test it then post it on here to save people wating but, it wont be much longer now, i found a very simple yet effective way of making weights lift themselves up to the outer wheel, then back in to the axle all on their own without any thing to control them, they control themselves, while one weight it at the rim, the other is at the axle, they keep swapping places,... I'm wandering if this chap has found something similiar, i found this by mistake, dont know if it will work yet though, i dont like saying until i have tested it, i shall post it on here soon as its done, i'm sure we will benefit from it some how :)

Alex

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #205 on: April 09, 2009, 02:23:03 AM »
Seems ok, i cant quite put it all together though, i can't understand why those round holes are in the pattern, they must have some relation to the rest of the pattern, this one really has me stuck :P

ahhh I may aswel say it, I am currently working on a wheel of my own, its not finished yet, i was going to test it then post it on here to save people wating but, it wont be much longer now, i found a very simple yet effective way of making weights lift themselves up to the outer wheel, then back in to the axle all on their own without any thing to control them, they control themselves, while one weight it at the rim, the other is at the axle, they keep swapping places,... I'm wandering if this chap has found something similiar, i found this by mistake, dont know if it will work yet though, i dont like saying until i have tested it, i shall post it on here soon as its done, i'm sure we will benefit from it some how :)

Alex

Sounds good Alex!  Feel free to share it anytime   ;D

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #206 on: April 09, 2009, 02:25:21 AM »
Alex, sinds his setup at the picture is made out of wood...  It could be that those holes are to balance the wheels, it is not easy to saw completely balanced wheel out of wood..  So maybe they do not have a function in the system, but are just a way to balance it. 

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #207 on: April 09, 2009, 02:31:01 AM »
sounds quite reasonable, the last wheel i made, the axle was not centre so the wheel turned on it owns which was anoying, i hope it doesn do this on my new one, shouldnt be long to its done though, its simple enough lol

I wander if the holes are supposed to have weights in? at the beggining, its says that the weights have been removed due to security reasons... hmmm maybe its a kind of fly-wheel? which help the weights to take their path/movement?

Alex

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #208 on: April 09, 2009, 02:34:57 AM »
Hi ALL,
I changed the KAD 23 WM2D file into a wheel,
that just gets a push from a weight that falls on it and then
the wheels should keep spinning on,
but it just does not work.

3 slots are just too few to get it to work.
There is always too much drag from the weight which must be lifted from 6 to 11 o´clock.

Attached is the WM2D file and a screenshot.
I have already exported an AVI movie with the Export function of
WM2D via the XVID codec and will post this now on youtube.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #209 on: April 09, 2009, 02:40:04 AM »
nice one stefan, ill watch that when its uploaded.
Anyway, im off to bed all, im dog tired  :-\ lol


nighty night

Alex