http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7150.msg172368#msg172368

AquariuZ, there is a slight modification to my previous animation I would like to see modelled. It should be fairly trivial. I just want to see if this way manages to conserve enough momentum that the balls can keep up with the wheel. If it looks interesting, could you also post a video?

Thanks,
0c

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7150.0;attach=33174

Any other wm2d guys willing to make some changes to AquariuZ' model and see how this design works? I know it's not a self starter, but once it gets up to speed, it just might keep going.

Thanks,
0c

@0c,

This is a misunderstanding of the essence of these devices. It was explained more than once why that's not the case and why the centrifugal force appearing when "it gets up to speed" isn't a producer but a spender of energy but obviously it isn't coming across to some people. If this device doesn't work because it is unbalanced to begin with then no "getting up to speed" will change that and turn it into a working machine.

Even Bessler's wheel needed to be started.

Even Bessler's wheel needed to be started.

Incorrect.

Bessler, according to the writings, had two types of wheels. The first one could only move in one direction and was a self starter, in fact it had to be fettered when not in use. He was then asked to make a wheel which could move in both directions which he did. This type of wheel needed an initial push in the desired direction.

Hans von Lieven

@0c,

Stop calling this your idea. This is Abeling’s idea and we’re all trying to figure out how to juxtapose a proper track with proper grooves on the wheel to get it going. Once is enough to instigate with your constant nagging a hoaxer such as @alsetalokin. Don’t try it again.

Sorry, count me out for the next few weeks.

I have studying to do... Serious studying...

Check my posts in Bendini and Magnet systems in relation with ECE which basically explains where energy from the "vacuum" comes from.

I must completely understand all this before I go on like a headless chicken.

http://aias.us

I know, I know, you cannot have it both ways, now I wish I had studied.

Are you not familiar with the methodology's of our ruling elite?  Einstein was one of their shills.
Do you not see the illuminati coat of arms on the ECE site?

This is just more nonsense, not unlike Bearden's gibberish, unless of course you like red herrings...

Ron

Adam Weishaupt, quotes about Illuminati: 
The great strength of our Order lies in its concealment; let it never appear in any place in its own name, but always concealed by another name, and another occupation. None is fitter than the lower degrees of Freemasonry; the public is accustomed to it, expects little from it, and therefore takes little notice of it. Next to this, the form of a learned or literary society is best suited to our purpose, and had Freemasonry not existed, this cover would have been employed; and it may be much more than a cover, it may be a powerful engine in our hands. … A Literary Society is the most proper form for the introduction of our Order into any state where we are yet strangers.

Abeling's idea is the egg-shaped path dumbbell weights where the weights stay on the wheel.

My idea is where the weights actually depart from the wheel at the bottom and rejoin it at the top, thus providing the "overbalance". I have never seen a wheel like what I am proposing. If you know of one, give me a reference so I can give credit where credit is due. Maybe it has already been investigated somewhere.

Not correct.

I - for one - proposed such a 'depart and rejoin' wheel yesterday.

And Abeling could very well be doing the same (if you read carefully in his patent he says that "- at least one carrier disc (2) rotating around a horizontal axle (6), having at least one weight (3) attached which can move mainly radially outward in a predetermined path.")

But - as you say, oC - who cares who made the idea: Lets get it working!
regards
ruggero  ;-)

But - as you say, oC - who cares who made the idea: Lets get it working!

Looks like there is as much resistance to different ideas here as there is in the scientific community. Those who have the resources don't want to explore concepts that differ from their own.

I'd really like to see what a skilled wm2d user like Hans or Mondrasek could do with these proposals.

Oh well ...