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Author Topic: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant  (Read 667347 times)

Offline ruggero

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dxf-file of wheel
« Reply #1065 on: April 24, 2009, 07:17:36 PM »
AquariuZ:

Here are the dxf-file.

Just made a quick Illustrator drawing of the "dusty-jpg" wheel drawing.

;-)

regards
ruggero

BTW
It seems like the weights is disconnected from the wheel at 05:00 and 'shot' into the wheel again at 01:00.

If this is true, there will never be any weight on the wheel from 05:00 to 01:00.

Someone said that the weights are connected in pairs by a rod crossing the centre wheel:
That could very well be the starting point! – The weight of the falling weight + the weight of the wheel should be enought to 'push' the rising (left hand) weight up, as a small experiment easily would demonstrate:

Attach one end of a rod to the rim of a wheel and let the other end slide freely on the ground or even better, let it slide on a curved ramp.

Now try to turn the attached end to 01:00 and 'drop' it....



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dxf-file of wheel
« Reply #1065 on: April 24, 2009, 07:17:36 PM »

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1066 on: April 24, 2009, 07:34:27 PM »
Thanks, @ruggero. Can't import it inot the wm2d. It imports well into AutoCAD but then even when you save it back as dxf what is seen in wm2d is just an empty square. Have tried it yourself to import it into wm2d?

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1067 on: April 24, 2009, 07:47:39 PM »
Hi Omnibus,

I'm on a Mac - can't use the software.

But tell me what kind of import you can manage in w2... and I send it to you.

ruggero

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1067 on: April 24, 2009, 07:47:39 PM »
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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1068 on: April 24, 2009, 07:55:45 PM »
@ruggero,

As far as I can see wm2d can only import it's own files with the extension wm2d as well as dxf files. Could it be that it is some different kind of dxf than the one you're preparing?

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1069 on: April 24, 2009, 08:12:31 PM »
;-) Omnibus

Looked at the support site from wm2d for import features:
"First, make sure that the DXF file was exported as one of the following DXF versions: 12, 13, 14, or 2000."

OK -  from the FAQ one quickly realize that wm2d got a huge problem concerning import from other formats...also dxf.

But but but...I've made a 2000-export which you can try out. Hopefully it works.

ruggero ;-)

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1070 on: April 24, 2009, 08:20:22 PM »
@ruggero,

Now, upon trying to import it, the message that pops up reads: "Could not complete your request because no understandable objects were found in the document. This document may not contain any objects that Working Model understands",
« Last Edit: April 24, 2009, 09:03:00 PM by Omnibus »

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1071 on: April 24, 2009, 08:57:07 PM »
Ok a quick one done. Crude wm2d model attached.

It fails (sorry) because the wheel needs to spin in such a rate to bring the ball back up that on the downpath the ball does not impose a downward force on the wheel (moves faster than gravitational acceleration of the falling balls)

Hence it will slow down to a point where the wheel is no longer able to bring the balls back up.

In other words, the balls cannot keep the wheel spinning at such a rate as is required to bring even one back up.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7150.msg172368#msg172368

AquariuZ, there is a slight modification to my previous animation I would like to see modelled. It should be fairly trivial. I just want to see if this way manages to conserve enough momentum that the balls can keep up with the wheel. If it looks interesting, could you also post a video?

Thanks,
0c

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1072 on: April 24, 2009, 09:06:43 PM »
@0c,

Yeah, that'll be interesting to see being modeled.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1073 on: April 24, 2009, 09:56:59 PM »
Sorry, count me out for the next few weeks.

I have studying to do... Serious studying...

Check my posts in Bendini and Magnet systems in relation with ECE which basically explains where energy from the "vacuum" comes from.

I must completely understand all this before I go on like a headless chicken.

http://aias.us

I know, I know, you cannot have it both ways, now I wish I had studied.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1074 on: April 24, 2009, 09:57:53 PM »
Double

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1075 on: April 24, 2009, 09:59:21 PM »
Sorry, count me out for the next few weeks.

I have studying to do... Serious studying...

Check my posts in Bendini and Magnet systems in relation with ECE.

I must completely understand all this before I go on like a headless chicken.

http://aias.us

I know, I know, you cannot have it both ways, now I wish I had gone to college.

@AquariuZ, that's a waste of time. Simple as that ...

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1076 on: April 24, 2009, 10:16:30 PM »
@AquariuZ, that's a waste of time. Simple as that ...

Sure it is Omnibus...

Sure it is.


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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1077 on: April 24, 2009, 10:23:24 PM »
I'm talking about Bedini/Bearden stuff --  sheer nonsense.

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1078 on: April 24, 2009, 11:23:33 PM »
I'm talking about Bedini/Bearden stuff --  sheer nonsense.

I´m sure a lot of members will disagree, especially about Bendini....

But ECE: fascinating.. Especially the debunking brigade...

LOL

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Re: Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant
« Reply #1079 on: April 25, 2009, 12:07:44 AM »
I can imagine why Aquariuz is throwing in the towel. He finally found out that Sjack Abeling is full of shit, as I have said all along.

Hans von Lieven

 

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