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Author Topic: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"  (Read 1053687 times)

Offline lancaIV

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #435 on: July 03, 2006, 01:16:02 AM »
Yes,it seems that there is a similance between
the Molina-Martinez device and the Meyer-Mace concept,
one is open and the other closed !
But this is a part of the MEG-study,Pasichinikyj included !

There is the choice to use e-magnets and or pm-magnets,
to introduce pulsed DC or AC.

S
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #435 on: July 03, 2006, 01:16:02 AM »

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #436 on: July 03, 2006, 06:02:17 AM »

Tesla's radiant energy is based on "disruptive discharge" and was based on disrupting the discharge of a spark across a gap.  He was extinguishing the spark.  The whole center was the spark.


Tesla used a spark gap because he didn't have nothing better to switch high voltages!
Not correct. There are a number of tesla patents that deal with achieving faster and faster switch rates e.g. opposite rotating contact wheels.
The main advantage of using a spark is the extremely FAST RISE-TIME of applying the voltage to the line.
One of THE essential requirement of achieving the desired radiant energy.
The second being that shorter and shorter impulse duration created different effects.
Hence the need to use different techniques to blow out the spark. Both magnets and hot air were used by Tesla.


He wrote about exploding or vaporizing wires when he discharged his capacitors into
thin pieces of wire. At the same time he noted a "tingling" effect resulting from the
experiment. He described that as tiny particles going out of the wires at right angles.

All the talk about stopping the spark was just to get shorter sparks.
Tesla wanted a higher repetition rate for the power discharge to study the effect.
So he needed to stop the spark quickly just to generate a new one. Nothing magic here!

NO. It is not just about generating new sparks.It is
a. Creating very fast rise time of applied voltage to the wire.
b. Creating very fast fall time as the voltage is removed from the wire.
c. Creating very short impulse times.
d. Ensuing no backrush of energy. (In modern terms - the reverse voltage breakdown level of the rectifier/diode was extremely high.)
e. Repetition of the impulses at regular intervals.

The 'magic' is that tesla realised a simple spark would meet ALL of these requirements.
Something that is still hard to beat with modern semiconductors.


He used thicker wire and higher power levels. The wire didn't explode anymore, but
that tingling sensation remained as Tesla previewed. And he noted about lamps turning
on when conected to the short piece of metal at the other side of the spark gap!

What you fail to mention is that from the spark gap to the primary was a large copper bus bar.
The lamp was connected across this copper bus bar, with the bus bar shorting the lamp.
The lamp still however lit.

On his Tesla coils he used just two turns of thick wire for the primary.
He wanted to KICK the wire to the very limit of explosion, but without exploding the wire!
That is the way he got his radiant energy generation! That energy was collected at the
secondary of his coils and amplified by resonance (standing waves).

So, have you ever seen a magnetizer in operation?
Remember those Mannix battery jumper cables?

They produce the same effect, high power suddenly running into the wires without exploding
them. The same happens in the tube filament Steven told us. Too much power and it burns.

I guess the magic is exactly this high power discharge (KICKS) into pieces of wire.
Edwin Gray collected that same energy released in the process.

What kind of energy is that?


See inline comments in above quote
« Last Edit: July 03, 2006, 07:24:11 AM by bob.diroto »

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #437 on: July 03, 2006, 07:36:37 AM »
Ed Grays Power Conversion Tube

According to Bedini, Ed Gray used copper mesh grids to collect radiant energy from the spark gap.

Have a look here:
http://www.keelynet.com/evgray/powrtube.htm

Mike

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #437 on: July 03, 2006, 07:36:37 AM »
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #438 on: July 03, 2006, 08:27:25 AM »
Important Experimental Results

A 1000V capacitor (CapA) is discharge across an **iron wire**. Making the connection causes sparks so I guess this counts as a spark gap.

I tried winding many collector air coils made of copper with different diameters. Only one end of the collector coil is connected to the +ve of a DIFFERENT 1000V capacitor (CapB) previously charged to 500V via a 500V charging circuit rigged from a camara flash unit.

With this set up:
1. I mesaured the voltage on CapB.
2. I would charge CapA and discharge across the iron wire.
3. I would repeat step 2, 10-20 times.
4. I then remeasure the voltage on CapB again.

This process was repeated for different diameters/ lengths of collector coil.
The collector coil being placed in many different positions - Iron wire placed inside the collector coil or collector coil placed in different positions around the iron wire.
Permanent magnets placed in different positions.

No change in voltage was noted in CapB with any of the coils. If anything a slight reduction in voltage.

I finally tried a spiral collector coil as per tesla secondary in his magnifying transmitter.
This had a definate affect on the voltage of the capacitor.
Sometimes it would be 1 volt higher, sometimes 1 volt lower. I sometimes get a string of reductions of say 0.5 volt each. And other times a string of increases of 0.5 volts.

There seems to be no consistency. I've tried placing magnets at different positions to try and get consistent increase or consistent decrease.

As yet no consistency. But a definate effect.

Conclusion

A flat spiral coil is known to be a good broadband receiver. Early radio enthusiansts (1940's) used flat spiral coils on the end of long radio receiving aerials to increase the receiving frequency bandwidth.

Either the spiral coil is being inducted with energy in the standard induction principle or it is a small manifestation of the kick. I am encouraged that non of my other non spiral coils had this affect.

If it is radiant energy I believe the spiral worked because of the changing diameter of the copper wire. It requires a certain circumference to grab the radiant energy is my guess which is why non of my other coils worked. (Unfortunately this same principle could be true, I think, for standard electromagnetic radiation).

Obviously the time taken to do each pulse limits getting the parameters correct and to eliminate affects caused by constant measuring of the voltage. Once I get the pulsing circuit going I'll be able to have an oscilloscope constantly attached and hopefully will be able to make further deductions.

Now need to get a capacitor based pulsing circuit going. And by good luck Penguin Hood has earlier said he'll be posting such a circuit....

By the way a pulsing automotive coil has too much ringing to be any good as a HV pulsing supply. Also you can't get the pulsing frequency up very high as the primary doesn't have chance to reach full voltage (Magnetic field has not fully expanded in primary coil). Nor can you control the pulse width.





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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #439 on: July 03, 2006, 11:39:43 AM »
Single Wire Conduction
using flat spiral coil
from Milan Manchich

see here:
http://www.keelynet.com/energy/milan.htm

Mike

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #439 on: July 03, 2006, 11:39:43 AM »
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #440 on: July 03, 2006, 01:28:15 PM »
Hi Bob,
please try to use iron wire coils in your setup.
Try to premagnetize the iron coils with a magnet
as close to the Barkhausen jump magnetisation level
as possible with the right distance of the magnet
and put a cap in parallel so you have a LC circuit.
Then give it a kick via an electric pulse and see,
if it will resonate at the Barkausen frequency
or lower frequency, but make sure the oscillation
will drive it always through the Barkhausen regime,
so you will see some spikes on the oscillation voltage.
Now if you have the iron wire coil on a ferrite core and
couple these spikes to another iron wire coil with a cap in paralell
you could see, if you could resonate this LC circuit as well
and finally try to feedback some energy to the first LC circuit with
some additional circuit.
Please try step by step.
Many thanks.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #441 on: July 03, 2006, 01:41:57 PM »
P.S: Bob Shannon, who made this Barkhausen effect receiver said to me,
that the Barkhausen jumps occured also with a static magnet sitting
at the right distance away from the iron material. Then the jumps were
quite low in counts, but some domains flipped back and forth,
so there is some energy generation via these jumps occuring in this state
due to the temperature and background radiation which kicks
some magnetic domains back and forth.
So if you would have a sine current which goes through this regime,
it would also flip the domains back and forth and the spikes
of this flipping would induce voltage spikes that could be collected
in a bigger cap.
This is probably the big electrolytic cap in Steven Mark?s bigger 1 KW unit
inside the toroid.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #441 on: July 03, 2006, 01:41:57 PM »
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #442 on: July 03, 2006, 08:08:31 PM »
I want to first say that I in no way want to deviate from the RADIANT TESLA/GRAY line of discussions, because ultimately I feel that is the ONLY PLACE where FREE ENERGY IS, but I found this today, and I couldn't get over how similar it was to Steven's second device..............


Steven's second device in the video coilnew05.avi looks like the exact same thing as a previous patent from 1993 in France.

Allow me to explain the EXACT similarities in detail, THEN you can decide for yourself.


Here is a description of the device:
--This patented generator is a solid-state generator which uses the nuclear resonant ferromagnetic effect in a cylindrical rod of iron. (BALING WIRE ANYONE???)
--It uses a common iron rod (isotopic number 56) with 3 simple coils wound around it.
--This rod is placed between a U shaped core (soft iron)(A ROD PULS ATTACHED TO A "U" SHAPE EQUALS A COMPLETE CIRCLE/TOROID) for closing the magnetic circuit and thus reducing the magnetic losses(SIMILAR TO A TOROID, SOMETHING STEVEN TOLD US TO LOOK INTO) (see the diagram).
--The inventors claim that if we introduce 105 eV to the iron (isotope 56), its change to the iron isotope 54. The energy generated by this nuclear reaction inside the iron rod will produce an energy gain of 20,000 eV. The energy required for generating the isotopic mutation is produced by a nuclear magnetic resonance effect. The parametric excitation is obtained by the coil #2 acting as the pump.
The energy output is collected by the coil #3 which is able to produce 110-220-380V at 400Hz(THIS COULD PROBABLY BE CHANGED, THE Hz, BASED ON THE SETUP USED).
--The iron rod is used as the main source of energy by isotopic mutation effect, thus, this will provide a simple and cheap source of energy for a long time.
--The inventors claim that this device can be used for building self-powered elecrical power supplies.

Here is the patent abstract:
Abstract of FR2680613
Generator of energy by resonant nuclear ferromagnetism, consisting of a "U"-shaped chassis made of mild steel containing a cylindrical bar made of ferromagnetic fuel rod on which at least 3 induction coils act.(AT LEAST THREE, SO THERE COULD BE MORE)The first coil is an electromagnet(YOU COULD ALSO USE A SMALL PERMANENT MAGNET TO PRODUCE THIS SAME EFFECT AS THE DC BIAS FROM THIS ELECTROMAGNET DOES, HMMM :)), the second is a nuclear magnetic resonance actuator(THE KICK GENERATING WIRE), the third(COLLECTOR COILS) recovering the induction energy present in the bar. Device intended particularly to supply commercially exploitable electrical energy as well as to perform isotopic mutations.


Now, lets look at some of the things that we have seen from the various videos of Steven and his words:
--Steven's device is known, at least the first one, to use baling wire, of which many consist of IRON.
--Steven NEVER SAID he DIDN'T use batteries, only that a battery couldn't do the demonstrations of power his TPU was showing, that doesn't mean a battery wasn't there to provide the frequencies to the IRON,
--Steven said to pay attention to the TOROIDAL structure and that it was IMPORTANT, hmm, just like the device above, absolutely IMPORTANT.
--Steven's device OBVIOUSLY used permanent magnets NEAR the coils, hmm, maybe to simulate the 0.5 Tesla DC field that the electromagnet on COIL #1 of the patent creates?
--Steven's devices came out just a little after the French patent above, i.e. 1993.
--The AC entered into the COIL #2 would be the KICK GENERATING WIRE that produces the nuclear reactions that move through the TPU and are picked up via the COIL #3.
--Steven's second device in particular appear to ONLY HAVE A COUPLE COILS, JUST LIKE THE PICTURE FROM THE FRENCH PATENT.


Again, if I am wrong, at least we got to see another potential for inclusion into the matrix of ideas about Steven's TPU, a win-win situation.


Thanks Tao for bringing this up. There are definate parallels with the Steven Mark's device as you've pointed out.

Have you noticed that the 21Mhz mentioned in the patent is exactly 120 times the 175Khz identified with magnetism ? Interesting huh.


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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #443 on: July 04, 2006, 02:59:11 PM »
Hi Bob,
did you try in your experiments,
if you can use the Barkhausen noise spikes
to induce a voltage in other coils ?
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #443 on: July 04, 2006, 02:59:11 PM »
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #444 on: July 04, 2006, 03:34:59 PM »
Hi Bob,
did you try in your experiments,
if you can use the Barkhausen noise spikes
to induce a voltage in other coils ?
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.
I have this on my list of things to try.
I'll pm you when I have done it. (and will post to the board the results)
I'm concentrating at the moment on getting parts for a pulsing circuit.
I do have to say in the next few weeks my spare time is going to be limited as a project at work moves to the next phase.....

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #445 on: July 04, 2006, 06:51:37 PM »
Hi Bob,
did you try in your experiments,
if you can use the Barkhausen noise spikes
to induce a voltage in other coils ?
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.
I have this on my list of things to try.
I'll pm you when I have done it. (and will post to the board the results)
I'm concentrating at the moment on getting parts for a pulsing circuit.
I do have to say in the next few weeks my spare time is going to be limited as a project at work moves to the next phase.....

Happy independence day for those of you in the US, be safe with your fireworks, and enjoy the barbeques!!

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #445 on: July 04, 2006, 06:51:37 PM »
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #446 on: July 06, 2006, 06:25:50 AM »
Hi All,

I have a gut feeling that the person behind all of this is stan deyo as both the dates posted for these videos imply.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1944827568401901581&q=free+energy+duration%3Along
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2183733306119723239&q=free+energy+duration%3Along

compare the designs illustrated in these 2 videos.

Simply put a and b together people and you will probably work out the message between the lines.

Regards,

Dean

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #447 on: July 06, 2006, 07:00:47 AM »
Additionally I suspect that there is little or no additional technology required in these devices. What we may be observing is the juxtaposition of 2 coils of equal mass and density  similar to the the tesla transponder stimulated by the presence of a local magnetic source so that they vibrate and become resonant to the earths magnetic field. The magnet would be used similar to a tuning fork to begin or maintain the resonance. The frequency required was described in the video 6XXX? Take your calcs do the math on the length and distrubition for the windings and the differential as per the longitudinal wave video and see what happens?. Subsequently the toroidal or vortex nature of the system may be the reason that once turned upside down .. ofcourse depending on which hemisphere you are in .. the device stops working.

Just my totally whacky idea here but some people are better at the big picture than others i guess.
   

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #448 on: July 06, 2006, 08:32:11 AM »
Hi All,

I have a gut feeling that the person behind all of this is stan deyo as both the dates posted for these videos imply.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1944827568401901581&q=free+energy+duration%3Along
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2183733306119723239&q=free+energy+duration%3Along

compare the designs illustrated in these 2 videos.

Simply put a and b together people and you will probably work out the message between the lines.

Regards,

Dean

Well, the stan deyo video is very interesting. And he was in australia for a Loooooong time. Just recently got his citizenship back. He and steven may have crossed paths. But I don't think they are the same person. Even if SM does look like a young stan deyo. Their voices are wrong. The designs in the video did give me a moment of pause, as at first look, the toroidal coil in the antigravity portion of the video reminded me of our own arrangement here. However the free energy stuff was more like moray's receivers. I suppose SM's device could be an incarnation of what Moray did.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #449 on: July 06, 2006, 09:03:22 AM »
Also note in the stan dey footage he skips the free energy device component of his presentation.

Another point is that if you view the coil from stevens pictures closely they seem to exhibit the thick band around the outside sometimes as the light catches them, extrememly similar to the design shown in the deyo clip.

certainly still has me wondering, and being an aussie i can hear the accent in both clips. though i do agree not so similar sounding voices.

i think this may just be a collaborative assault to bring this technology forward.

Or a load of crap as so many of us have discovered over the years :(

 

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