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bob.diroto

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #375 on: June 28, 2006, 06:30:02 AM »
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It would be preferable if you could keep the primary inspiration from those who are not in a position to contribute at this early stage.

I understand now.

It's too bad that just because one has only recently joined, that they are automatically labeled "not in a position to contribute". For the short time I've been here, I feel I've contributed more than my share, and I emphasize the word share. I didn't have to spend the hours I did compiling all your and SM's letters the way I did. I didn't have to spend the hours contemplating that diagram I found then drawing up the diagram and sharing it. I didn't have to spend the time thinking about the "kick" issue and how to test for it, then post it, but I did. If that's not contributing, then that's a real shame. It seems there are only a few who post here, and some very infrequently with new ideas. I though I have brought a few good ones.

Anyway, good luck to you (the few) guys, I hope you crack the safe. To those who are in the same boat as myself, good luck to you as well. Perhaps I'll start a new group on Yahoo, where all will be shared with everyone.

PS. Lindsay, I did read ALL the posts (I gathered them all in one file remember?), and there is nothing close to what tao has just posted.

Darren

To z_p_e:

I appreciate the information you have collated, and time you have spent, and ideas you have put out to the group. Do not assume that Mannix speaks for all of us here.

I do share Mannix's frustration, which I think is what is coming out in his replies to you, that there is obviously a configuration of coils and simple components (capacitors, resistors etc.) which has the potential to eradicate poverty WORLDWIDE. Lack of Energy is what causes poverty, and what gives tremendous political power to certain countries.

z_p_e please keep posting.


To Mannix:

Why don't you post, for all to review, the information you sent to a select few of us ? Whilst I appreciated being in the loop for the personal message, I believe this caused a level of disquiet. I'm still wondering whether there is other information that has been sent out to other people, where I wasn't included. I do understand the sentiment behind the personal message, of let's cut to the chase. But I think the key will be some 'newbie' asking what appears to be the same quesiton but in a slightly different way, and then something clicks with one of use, as to what is really happening with the coils.

How often have you had a problem and then over a beer explaining to a friend in simple terms what the problem is, the answer suddenly becomes obvious to you, simply because the process of explaining allowed certain assumptions to be reviewed.

Perhaps we should try a different tack of explaining to newer posters (of which I was one not long ago) what the current theories are, and what we are currently trying to do. I'll try and put a post together later, on this tack, as I now have paying (imagine that!) work to complete.



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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #376 on: June 28, 2006, 07:14:43 AM »
Is anyone else besides myself waiting on the MAX038 Freq. Generator chips? I did post a source although I don't know how many they have since this is a discontinued chip.
As for the PM some of us received- I think Mannix was trying to encourage some of us that maybe have the equipment needed to explore deeper....You're not going to crack this nut w/o a scope, freq gen, and a counter wouldn't hurt either.
Tesla revolutionized motors with a "rotating field"...might help to go back to basics a bit......

Oh...BTW....and old computer monitor makes an awesome mag field detector.....might come in handy. See attached pic.

gn0stik

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #377 on: June 28, 2006, 07:53:08 AM »
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It would be preferable if you could keep the primary inspiration from those who are not in a position to contribute at this early stage.

I understand now.

It's too bad that just because one has only recently joined, that they are automatically labeled "not in a position to contribute". For the short time I've been here, I feel I've contributed more than my share, and I emphasize the word share. I didn't have to spend the hours I did compiling all your and SM's letters the way I did. I didn't have to spend the hours contemplating that diagram I found then drawing up the diagram and sharing it. I didn't have to spend the time thinking about the "kick" issue and how to test for it, then post it, but I did. If that's not contributing, then that's a real shame. It seems there are only a few who post here, and some very infrequently with new ideas. I though I have brought a few good ones.

Anyway, good luck to you (the few) guys, I hope you crack the safe. To those who are in the same boat as myself, good luck to you as well. Perhaps I'll start a new group on Yahoo, where all will be shared with everyone.

PS. Lindsay, I did read ALL the posts (I gathered them all in one file remember?), and there is nothing close to what tao has just posted.

Darren

Well, sorry if we're a little slow on the draw. At first we were probably just waiting to see if you would contribute, then, if you would contribute anything useful, then if you would stick around and then, we just probably forgot. Nothing against you man, your obviously a go getter.

HMM

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #378 on: June 28, 2006, 09:03:33 AM »
Hi group,

energycoils-full-vid screen shot

The bottom arrow shows wires hanging out from the cut, top arrow shows what looks like more wires I will post better screen shots soon.

thanks Tao for the help

The video shows a TPU being cut and the Engineers take meter readings from coil ends and various locations.


 ;DMike

HMM

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #379 on: June 28, 2006, 09:15:48 AM »
And what is this sitting on the control box looks like wood?

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #380 on: June 28, 2006, 09:19:47 AM »

AWESOME picture.

Can you do some more pictures with the magnet in different positions so we can see the magnet's field?

Like try the magnet flipped over, rotated 90 degrees, etc..

Thanks either way.


You look here http://mindprint.dyndns.org/trmweb%20II/Magnete_Feldlinien.htm and scroll down.

Anziehung=attraction
Absto?ung=repulsion

regards
Norbert

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #381 on: June 28, 2006, 09:29:15 AM »
Hi group,

energycoils-full-vid screen shot

The bottom arrow shows wires hanging out from the cut, top arrow shows what looks like more wires I will post better screen shots soon.

thanks Tao for the help

The video shows a TPU being cut and the Engineers take meter readings from coil ends and various locations.


 ;DMike


Is it possible that you upload this video so that everyone can watch it?

thanks
Norbert

HMM

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #382 on: June 28, 2006, 09:35:14 AM »
Hi Norbert,

The video I have is to large to post (173Mb)

I will figure somthing out.

one more shot from the vid
Is this the magnet holders?

 ;DMike


bob.diroto

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #383 on: June 28, 2006, 11:12:11 AM »
This is a summary of where I am in my thinking and experiments:

SM, I believe uses the term ?Control Wires? in the very broadest sense meaning wires involved in the input and output of the TPU. Because if you are feeding some of your output back into the input the output could be thought of as control wires.

High confidence this is correct.

SM has said there is a rotating magnetic field in the empty center of the toroid and it is this field which induces the voltage and current in the output coil. In tao?s model the output coil would be the very outside control wires. This is further backed up in that SM has stated a compass rotates slowly at first and gradually picks up speed and then eventually stops. It is my belief that the compass stops rotating because the magnetic field confines itself to a small circular area near the coils. If the magnetic field is their the compass will rotate IMO. QED no rotation, no field moving over the compass.


The Kicks

I?ve not been able to get a useful measure of the ?kick? effect. I?ve confirmed that shorting a battery with a jumper cable, as per Mannix suggestion, does result in the cables jumping, but it is more like a  twitch. As per several of my postings I?ve tried linking an outside tube made of iron wire, into a parallel LC circuit to see if energy could be enticed to build up in an LC circuit. Not a sniff of anything unusual. My thinking here is that my circuit is not isolated enough. I have not yet tried using a transformer to pulse the high voltage into the circuit. SM does specifically mention that transformers were part of his discovery process. SM says unusual things can be observed (oscilloscope or spectrum analyser ?) when two high voltage transformers get slightly out of phase.

My assumption is that the ?kicks? are linked to Tesla Radiant Energy which has an electrostatic component. Radiant energy requires metal objects to be of a certain size, shape and mass, for it to collect on a metal object.

This is my number one aim. To get some kicks and make some measurements. Anyone got this working yet ?


Frequencies

There are lots of numbers bandied around:

SM has said 7.3 Hz vibration in one of his devices.
SM has also mentioned 6000Hz component, in the pulsed DC output.
174.9KHz is the frequency of magnetism.
It can be seen in the video that the output is very high frequency judging by the ?fire? effect of generated sparks when output wires from the TPU are shorted.

He has also said the frequency is related to the circumference. To get a wavelength within the length of wire in one of the coils would mean frequencies in the gigahertz range ?  Or perhaps this is a way of saying standing waves are required ? Or perhaps this is a cryptic way of saying that resonant circuits must be used as the diameter of a coil affects the impedance of a coil which in turn affects the resonant frequency. Parallel resonance is an effective open circuit on the power source (infinite resistance). Serial resonance is an effective short on the power source (no resistance). I?ve been thinking whether these two effects can somehow be combined to good use. Parallel resonance for the input coils as it would use very little current to drive the circuit and serial resonance for the output coils in order to have very little resistance.


Permanent Magnet

My latest thinking on this is, if the earths weak field causes a small kick, then the much larger field of a permanent magnet must enhance the kick effect. But I?m buggered if I can measure any kick effect, permanent magnet or not.


Batteries

To me, this is a no brainer. Batteries are used to get things going. Once we understand what is happening we can close the loop of output back into input power.


Electrostatic and high voltage

Patrick Flanagen has a 1988 patent for an Electron Field Generator. It requires high voltage (5000v) AC pulses applied to two fully insulated plates. Plates are cast in epoxy resin. Diagram on patent is self explanatory. The end result is a cascade of electrons (in the environment). Perhaps there is an element of this effect as insulated coils could be thought of as stretched out plates.


My Step by Step No Working - Energy Building Process!

1.   Generate kicks ? it doesn?t matter how much battery power at this point is used to generate kicks. You need to have some kicks. No kicks ? no TPU. I?m still stuck at trying to get some kicks.
2.   Turn one kick into multiple kicks. 150khz high voltage pulses in theory generates 150,000 kicks per second. Have two coils both with 150khz, and say 151khz pulses and have these both going to a simple transformer so both inputs interact with each other and perhaps something ?strange? happens. Throw in a permanent magnet to make the kicks bigger.
3.   Collect electrostatic energy from the kicks ? iron tubes cut to right length, mass and size.
4.   Turn electrostatic energy on the tubes into rotating magnetic field. My only theory so far is to somehow rotate where the kicks are coming from and perhaps this generates a rotating electric field which in turn gives a rotating magnetic field.
5.   Rotating magnetic field induces high current and voltage into output coil.

bob.diroto

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #384 on: June 28, 2006, 12:23:03 PM »
Hi all,
Perhaps I need to qualify something.

At this stage this thread is for those who ARE winding coils. Information and discussion WILL come up to a pace where we can all get on the same page.BUT if you do not have the basic test equipment and aren't prepered to put lots of effort in then be honest and just watch...do not contribute unless you are hands on. I apolagise if I have offended any body ,I am just trying to give this the best chance of success.
If your ego gets bruised by this ...you need a thicker ego. I know I do sometimes.
If any body that is hands on,has the necessary skill, works with high voltage, and is prepared to spend much spare time chasing this Please let me know.
I am going to get us all to the gate at the same time and not be slowed down by those who have just arrived. This has been going for months now so For those who have just discovered this Please Take the time and read everything.I imagine it will take several nights to read and several weeks to absorb.
As stated, very early on this will never be monkey see monkey do ...mabey nothing will be achieved except the journey I dont know..what I do know is that we cannot keep slowing down to the pace of those who come in late.
Plenty of people who are well trained an have passed many memory tests have in thier mind, very good reasons to say that this is impossible. For you people please just leave us dreamers alone and do a crossword. Success is just a matter of time and some hard work for the rest of us ,and the more productive we can spend that time the better.Its still free to watch The last thing that we should have here is a closed shop...If it comes to that this whole thing will be a failure of sorts.
Please pm me with your experience and equipment..lets get going.

Lindsay Mannix
 

Mannix, I totally disagree.

I think it is only your perception that things are slowed down by other people posting and 'coming in late'. People are mostly slowed down by work and family commitments. People don't have a straight run of time. I get 3-4 days spare if I finish a project early.

I would appreciate more of your involvement in the ongoing discussions and theories raised.

What do you think causes the rotating magnetic field ?
How are you getting the kicks ?
What mechanism are you using to get multiple kicks ?
How are you collecting the kick energy ?
What mechanism are you using or thinking of using in order to convert the static energy into a rotating magnetic field ?
What parameters have you determined for efficiently collecting kick energy ?

I know you've posted the 'all the kings men' story but honestly why introduce another layer of interpretation. Why not actually tell us exactly what you believe, why you believe this, what experiments you've done to confirm your theory, and whether SM has confirmed your beliefs.

Why not start another thread with the opening message, This thread is for contributors who are building coils please post on the other thread if you are not building coils ? Perhaps on this new thread you could post any other information from Steven Mark that you have not yet put onto the board. Why you hold back information I have no idea. That last personal message was crucial. Could have saved me a bucket load of time if I had it earlier.

I for one would like to know:

How long had you been holding onto the last particularly valuable information from Steven Mark ?

Do you have any other information from Steven Mark that you are not posting at this moment ?

Why drip feed the information ? Let's get all the information on the board.


I have a 35MHz oscilloscope, 3Mhz Function Generator, and a shed full of old parts. I'm familiar with high voltage, rf precautions. I never wear a watch or jewellery when in my experiments shed. I'm thinking of obtaining a spectrum analyser (I know a two way satellite guy who may have one going).



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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #385 on: June 28, 2006, 05:52:51 PM »
If anyone is interested in a nice, inexpensive usb oscope/freq.generator for the pc check this out.
It comes in a kit, but he'll assemble it for you at additional cost.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140001937188


I'm buying one today if he answers my email favorably, about where to connect the probes.



Note to stefan: don't turn my posting into your ads please. Many people can't even follow those links as ad houses are blocked by their computers. You can do it all you wan't to your own ebay ads, but I was trying to show someone something and ask for advice, and I don't appreciate that. That's just going a bit to far hijacking other people's posts for no other reason than to make money, and make them look like ad hound jerks.

« Last Edit: June 30, 2006, 08:09:33 AM by gn0stik »

HMM

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #386 on: June 28, 2006, 07:15:53 PM »
hi group,
I have uploaded the video to megaupload as Tao sugested.

here is the link http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GBI9ZVHU

 ;DMike
« Last Edit: June 28, 2006, 07:36:30 PM by HMM »

gn0stik

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #387 on: June 28, 2006, 08:29:08 PM »
do I have to sign up for that site in order to download it? I just get ads

gn0stik

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #388 on: June 28, 2006, 09:21:25 PM »
do I have to sign up for that site in order to download it? I just get ads


Look at the top right-hand side of the web page, you should see a button and counts down from 60 seconds and then says "Click here to download".

It's there, just hard to see if you don't know where to look.

ALSO, make sure you have java script enabled...............

GOT IT! thanks...

That'll teach me to pay a litte more attention. :)

Ha! At any rate take a look at that ebay item I posted about, tell me if it looks ok to you. I assume it's using a MAX chip. But he doesn't specify. I figured I'd put it in an altoids case.

I guess I'll find out for myself, but does the video confirm in any way our suspicions about how it's wound? Your 3d diagrams are nice by the way, that's exactly how I envisioned them.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #389 on: June 28, 2006, 10:57:27 PM »
hi group,
I have uploaded the video to megaupload as Tao sugested.

here is the link http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GBI9ZVHU

 ;DMike


Well,
I just watched it again in single step with media player classic again
and at 38:30 min Steven lifts the open core TPU device and you can
easily see, that it just has 2 big about 10 windings coils on the
lower core parts only...

Does somebody recognize what kind of core ring this it at all ?

Is this some kind of commercial available ferrite core ?
That would really help, if we could locate such a core...
Then the first experiments would be much easier...
Maybe it is a core from an old TV tube magnetic deflection unit which
normally sits on the neck of a TV tube ?

I guess as this is the easiest device, he might just have
only got 2 or 4 iron wire LC circuits in the right
setup and phase angle setup and with the magnets he
is just putting a remanz level magnetisation onto the iron wire
coils, so they don?t pulse with AC but with chopped DC..
The capacitors are a little hard to see in this segment...

This open device looks so simple build it must be probably
only a few LC circuits, maybe a small circuit driver in one
of the footer stands of it for generating a few pulses into the
coils , if at all ?
In some segments he says, it is just a clever combination
of coils and phase angle setup, so he might evenm
have no circuit over there in it, but just uses the magnets
to induce small inductions which will go into sustained
oscillation and the oscillation will rise and rise,
until his 91 Volts chopped Dc or so is reached...

2. When they disassembled through sawing the bigger unit,
it looks like the core is really made out of wood or kork and
just a coil is wound toroidal around it. Not wound around the
center axis, but wound toroidal like a toroidal transformer.
This can also be seen, as he saws the thing through, he only has to cut
ONE or TWO wires with his "cutter knife-clamp".
If it would be wound around the center axis of this wood core
(like cylindrical onto the surface) , he would have to cut many more wires
and could not saw through it with a wood sawing unit !

So this verifies, that the coils are wound toroidal around this wood core.

Regards, Stefan.