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Author Topic: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"  (Read 1052965 times)

gn0stik

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #330 on: June 23, 2006, 08:04:39 AM »
I believe it's this one. I'll explain why below.

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SM said they were stacked one on top of the other(paraphrase). The mental orientation of the coil I have in my head when I think of it is laying flat on a table. He would have said side-by-side, or concentric otherwise.

In the case of option C the coil would be short and wide, and the collector coils and the kick coil would be of varying diameters, making tuning difficult. You could probably get it to pump out something but nothing like in the videos.

The TPUs in the video are all thin and tall suggesting stacked coils of a common diameter.

Version B in my opinion is straight out. Nothing with it jives with what we've studied or learned, even remotely.

Now I'm guessing we need to figure out how they are wound, if in fact this is the right arrangment.

Dr. Schizinger said they were "cicumferentially" arranged. I'm thinking the collector coils (c1 and c3) are wound straight around the outside circumference of a round form, creating the toroid with the windings themselves.. This would also explain to a degree the rotating magnetic field as the electrons would have to travel straight around the the coil creating a uniform magnetic field that would emanate from the around the outside, inside, above, and below, all at once, perpendicular to the coil, and travel with the electron flow. The coils could then be wrapped around the outside, and through the center of the toroidal collector coil wrapping it with the "control wiring".

A long spiral winding that is wound around the diameter of the thickness of the coil might create a similar effect, but the field would be slightly canted depending on it's position around the coil.

The problem with this arrangement would be that there would be no core to speak of on the collectors. Just a form to wrap the windings around. Perhaps the "cork like material" was just an insulating spacer between the collectors and receiver/kick center coil (c2).

Once these are all wrapped with control wiring, they would be stacked, and the entire coil portion of the unit could be wrapped likewise.

Going back through the old posts by mannix, I found this.

"one was about 100 mm in diameter the other about 450mm. The small device generated a few hundred watts and the larger device 1 kilowatt." - This is from mannix's first post. An estimate of size. I'm not sure how he could be so sure of the sizes, perhaps because of items in the vicinity of the TPUs. But it gives us something to go on.

The Thickness and height of the medium unit's coil is similar to the large one, which makes me think it's an exact division of the larger one.

Damn i've been busy. No time to wind anything myself yet. In the mean time, i've been going over the videos and scouring old posts for clues.


That's all I have for now, I just had to get it down as a coherent thought before I moved on. This place has become a sort of notebook to me.




« Last Edit: June 23, 2006, 08:20:04 AM by gn0stik »

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #330 on: June 23, 2006, 08:04:39 AM »

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #331 on: June 23, 2006, 09:36:51 AM »
I came across this link while researching mag amps

Magnetic Resonance Amplifier
http://www.totse.com/en/fringe/free_energy/zpe_mra2.html

"If the rhythmic energy flowing through the mass is made resonant to the mass aggregate resonance, you further reduce the resistance and impedance, thereby achieving unity and in some cases overunity." Vanguard Note  Joel McClain




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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #332 on: June 23, 2006, 01:46:55 PM »
Would I be right in thinking in the SM arrangment we've just been given, that if I pulse one frequency into one coil and another frequency into another coil that within the empty space in the center of the toroid we would get a superposition of magnetic and electric waves ?

On this assumption, this java applet allow a good visualisation of what sort of resulting waveform will occur for sin waves of various amplitude and frequency.

http://www.phy.ntnu.edu.tw/ntnujava/viewtopic.php?t=35
(Having changed the values in the text boxes hit RETURN key to change the animated waveform display)

Of particular interest are:

1. Standing waves where both frequencies are the same but direction of travel is in opposite directions.
To achieve this using two coils, the coil circumference has to be whole number related to wavelength of the chosen frequency. AND if both coils are wound in the same direction the top of each coil need to be connected to the bottom of the other coil AND then driven in parallel.

2. Where one frequency is a whole integer multiple of the other. Notice how the standing wave appears to move.

3. Where one frequency is very slighly different from the other.


Increasing the ramp-up and ramp-down time of a sqaure wave. You'll notive in the above animation that when two opposing waves meet, it increases the ramp-up and ramp-down times. We could use this to our benefit to make square waves with increasingly sharp ramp-up/ramp-down times.

This allows you to play with combining many sin waves (fft theory) and visualise what happens when a square wave is superpositioned with a cosine wave.
http://www.phy.ntnu.edu.tw/ntnujava/viewtopic.php?t=33


Why am I highlighting these things ? Although an oscilloscope is going to show you what you have, nothing beats trying to gain some intuition, as to what combination of waveforms is going to get you nearer to some of the criteria Steven has mentioned.






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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #332 on: June 23, 2006, 01:46:55 PM »
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gn0stik

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #333 on: June 23, 2006, 09:45:38 PM »
Remember that it also depends on how we arange them as well, If the top and bottom collectors are connected in series, and the middle coil is parallel to both of those, we can't really pump in frequencies from either direction without changing polarity. Unless you have more than one connection to them, in order to do it.. (Remeber steven saying "I tried it, and it works!") This is because they are essentially one long wire making two coils.

As to your video Tao, that's pretty interesting. That's the kind of effect I was expecting to see, with the magnetic field causing inductance into the center coil as it spun around the toroid directionally. Kind of reminds me of those socks I got for xmas last year, that I never wear, though.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #334 on: June 23, 2006, 09:55:53 PM »
Regards toroids and motional fields...

Please has anyone performed an experiment to rotate a magnetised core inside a simple toroid at a constant speed (i.e. simulated moving flux). Can anyone answer if this would cause a DC voltage to appear at the coil wire ends?

If the flux is contained within the core as you would expect - wouldn't you avoid any back emf. effects when tapping current?

If the answer to these questions if affirmative - then could we not replace the spinning core with a motor winding inside the toroid and tap DC power?

These questions have been bugging me for a while...  :)

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #334 on: June 23, 2006, 09:55:53 PM »
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gn0stik

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #335 on: June 23, 2006, 11:24:56 PM »
Remember that it also depends on how we arange them as well, If the top and bottom collectors are connected in series, and the middle coil is parallel to both of those, we can't really pump in frequencies from either direction without changing polarity. Unless you have more than one connection to them, in order to do it.. (Remeber steven saying "I tried it, and it works!") This is because they are essentially one long wire making two coils.

As to your video Tao, that's pretty interesting. That's the kind of effect I was expecting to see, with the magnetic field causing inductance into the center coil as it spun around the toroid directionally. Kind of reminds me of those socks I got for xmas last year, that I never wear, though.


IF this method is correct, then you only need three connections. Two from those central controls to each with a different frequency, just like Steven said in the video where he turns on the first then second frequency. Then you would need a third connection for the output. None of the 3 toroids(coils) would be connected to each other.


Then again, if we think in terms of PULSED DC and the Tesla radiant then the frequencies in the different coils would still be opperating at a frequency, just not AC ones, only pulsed DC ones, so no reversals of current would be allowed.

The interaction from these pulses then explains the KICKS and how they can combine into larger kicks, and the MOTIONAL FIELD could still happen through the interactions of these PULSED DC impulses based on their frequencies.

More later, I'm rambling on :P

If you go back and read his letter, he defenitely infers that the coils are connected to eachother, and that we should experiment on how they should be connected. At least that was my impression


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It is three separate coils of multi strand copper wire laid one on top of the other, not interleaved. Three is important. You can do many things with three coils. You can run them in parallel, you can run two in series and one in parallel, or etc.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #336 on: June 24, 2006, 02:38:32 AM »
In regards to freq generators:

Instead of MAX038 which seem hard to get and expensive, why not use cheap CMOS flip flops like
74ACT74?

link:  http://www.futurlec.com/IC74AC00Series.shtml

Only costs $.28  and 6nS cutoff time.

I am not technical and maybe I am missing something obvious.

Tishatang


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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #336 on: June 24, 2006, 02:38:32 AM »
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #337 on: June 24, 2006, 03:25:24 AM »

Please has anyone performed an experiment to rotate a magnetised core inside a simple toroid at a constant speed (i.e. simulated moving flux). Can anyone answer if this would cause a DC voltage to appear at the coil wire ends?


Yes it would. But just because there is only an A-field outside the toroid doesn't mean you won't get back EMF effects. You do get back EMF effects.

But if the rotating magnetic field is created as a side effect of the kicks and some synchronising with the ionesphere to somehow tap into excess energy then you will get a DC output that is overunity. Thus unto how do we convert electrostatic effects (kicks) into magnetic field effects...

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #338 on: June 24, 2006, 03:33:14 AM »
Very nice Tao.

Also have a look at what happens when you have two frequencies that are the same moving in opposite directions. Quite obviously a standing wave. BUT look what happens when you alter the amplitude of one of those frequencies. You get a sort of rotating effect with the pulse.

Now if the circumference is whole number related to the wavelength you're going to get those standing wave pulses occur in the SAME place on the coils.

How do you get a moving STANDING WAVE... I first thought change one of the frequencies slightly but then you get the effect that you've shown on your video, which I think certainly needs investigating.

Then I realised once you've got your frequency that is whole number related to the circumference if you change the frequency slightly that goes into both coils the point of meeting will move slowly round but without the 'capsule' effect.




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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #338 on: June 24, 2006, 03:33:14 AM »
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #339 on: June 24, 2006, 03:35:45 AM »
Observing the magnetic field in the empty space of the toroid.

Will filling a coke bottle with a mix of glycerine, water and very small iron filings allow this field to be seen in motion  when the bottle is placed in the center of the toroid ?

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #340 on: June 24, 2006, 04:17:54 AM »
Observing the magnetic field in the empty space of the toroid.

Will filling a coke bottle with a mix of glycerine, water and very small iron filings allow this field to be seen in motion  when the bottle is placed in the center of the toroid ?

Ferrofluid should do nicely.......

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« Reply #340 on: June 24, 2006, 04:17:54 AM »
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gn0stik

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #341 on: June 24, 2006, 04:27:14 AM »
Observing the magnetic field in the empty space of the toroid.

Will filling a coke bottle with a mix of glycerine, water and very small iron filings allow this field to be seen in motion  when the bottle is placed in the center of the toroid ?

Yes, That should work ok, I would use something a bit bigger, containerwise. Perhaps a small glass measuring bowl, so you could view it from above.

there are magnetic chemical stirring deals used quite commonely.


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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #342 on: June 24, 2006, 08:32:41 AM »
Hi Everyone,

I've been closely following this thread on and though I haven?t been posting, I have been actively working on understanding the device as well as testing some of the principles Steve and others have discussed. At the moment, I have acquired a nice digital oscilloscope, a 400W DC power supply and a function generator that goes into the MHz. Right now I'm making a homemade amplifier circuit to run square and sine waves through a bunch of different coils that I found and made myself to see how they respond.

I am also going to be testing the effect of permanent magnets on these coils. There were many posts on the subject so I thought I would put in my two cents worth. I mentioned this to Lindsay in a private e-mail a while ago but I have been doing research into permanent magnets to find a way to make a running permanent magnet motor. I wrote an article called the "90 Degree Rule Theory" here:

http://www.fdp.nu/free_energy.asp?book=90

In the article, I experimentally show how magnets can produce 'kicks' that are up to 100 times as powerful as the magnet itself when the field is quickly compressed and allowed to 'snap' back at 90 degrees to the pole
face.

I began thinking of how this principle may be employed in the Mark device and then it occurred to me that when he placed the magnet(s) in the device, they seemed to be at 90 degrees to the coils (particularly in his first device). Perhaps the kicks that the coil produce buck against the permanent magnet's field at 90 degrees which causes the magnet to 'kick' back only much much stronger! Keep in mind that this can only work if
the magnet is at 90 degrees to the coil. If it is placed directly on the end of the coil, it won't work. Now, I am still hypothesizing about this. I plan to do some simple experiments to see if this is in fact true but I thought I'd run the idea past you all to see
what you think.

God Bless,
Jason O

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #343 on: June 24, 2006, 10:30:09 AM »
Perhaps the kicks that the coil produce buck against the permanent magnet's field at 90 degrees which causes the magnet to 'kick' back only much much stronger! Keep in mind that this can only work if
the magnet is at 90 degrees to the coil. If it is placed directly on the end of the coil, it won't work.

The static kick comes when the high voltage potential is first applied across a wire (inductance) i.e. either before or as the magnetic field is starting to build. As the magnetic field builds around the wire, the effective resistance decreases and the current flow increases.

I have no idea whether the presence of the magnetic field would hinder the initial expansion of the magnetic field, and thus the current, and thus allow a more powerful static kick to materialise. It certainly sounds realistic and very worth testing out. I've made particular note to try out the 90 degree placement of the magnet. I had assumed an inline placement of the magnet. All good stuff.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #344 on: June 24, 2006, 10:46:37 AM »
I've been looking for a java applet which would allow multiple waves to be superpositioned. Ideally allowing square waves with multiple sin waves of any phase. No luck yet. If anyone else can find something like this, please post!

The nearest I've got so far is this, which allows 4 sine waves.
http://www.coastal.udel.edu/faculty/rad/superplot.html

 

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