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Author Topic: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"  (Read 1034523 times)

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #225 on: June 14, 2006, 05:06:11 PM »
Tuning a coil is simply a matter of having the right equipment and a pair of wire snips. Problem is, I don't think any of us have the right equipment. Tao is in college, and their electronics dept. might, so he might be able to build all of our coils for us. I'm not positive of that however.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #226 on: June 14, 2006, 05:24:58 PM »
If you can get a hold of an old ARRL (American Radio Relay League) handbook (ham operator book), this book usually has very useful formulas and charts for resonate circuits, tank circuits or series resonate circuits.  It will help you calculate close values to get into the ball park if you know the frequency of the circuit that you need.  It can also help you calculate the Q of the tank or series resonate circuit. 

Here is a page that may be helpful as a online calculator for ohm's law and resonate circuits. 

http://www.wd5gnr.com/calc.htm

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #227 on: June 14, 2006, 06:19:39 PM »
Hi All,
nice new infos.
So can somebody draw a picture how you think the
coils are located to each other ?
Is the main coil in the 1 KW device then a iron wire coil
and around it is a copper coil wound to extract the power ?
Thanks Tao for posting the private emails !

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #227 on: June 14, 2006, 06:19:39 PM »
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #228 on: June 14, 2006, 07:20:49 PM »
Hmm, the circuit must probably be kept oscillating near the "resonance catastrophe" frequency !

I still remember pretty well, when a few months ago I wondered, why my flat was shaking a bit
and a pretty load deep humming sound was heard all over my flat.

It was generated by a truck standing about 50 Meters away and having its motor run idle
and the small noise it generated from the motor was the exact resonance frequency of my
flat room and thus there was really a "good" vibration all over the place in
my flat and I really wondered how such a small outside noise could be this big
amplified....it probably really was the resonance amplification of energy at the exact
resonance frequency...
Also I remember somebody telling me in my physics classes, that when the
oscillations at the resonance point get too big, the sin(x) equatations don?t fit anymore....

So the coils must probably have a very high Q in the Mark?s setup to resonate very well...

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #229 on: June 14, 2006, 08:54:16 PM »

Doing it my way, as it said in that post that Steven confirmed, all you need is a voltage potential, from mV to really any V, this voltage potential could be from anything, perhaps the Schumann Resonance?, Perhaps A small battery?, Perhaps an already charged capacitor?


Or many thin wire to few thick wire. Maybe this is what he mean with circuit potential?

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #230 on: June 14, 2006, 09:10:21 PM »

The problem is, what about all that stuff Steven was saying about getting too close to the exact resonant frequencies and how it would instantly destroy the device and such? And how all the circuitry in the TPU is there not for generating impulse, but there to stop the device from running too close to its ??


Sorry, i didn't read all before answering! So one more post.

Is there a resonant frequency of the length of the wire?


gn0stik

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #231 on: June 14, 2006, 10:43:01 PM »

The problem is, what about all that stuff Steven was saying about getting too close to the exact resonant frequencies and how it would instantly destroy the device and such? And how all the circuitry in the TPU is there not for generating impulse, but there to stop the device from running too close to its ??


Sorry, i didn't read all before answering! So one more post.

Is there a resonant frequency of the length of the wire?



yes

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #232 on: June 15, 2006, 01:15:51 AM »
Tao and all,

Now that was a great find. Indeed wow. so many angles to think about.

Quote
Bill says:
If we wind ourselves a toroidial (donut) inductor and plug it into a 120VAC wall plug, the device will draw a current but ideally won't draw any flow of energy. However, if we then wind a big loose 1-turn secondary "coil" around the donut (through its hole) and short out this "coil", a huge amperage appears in the wire, the coil grows red hot, and many hundreds of watts are drawn from the donut inductor and from the wall outlet. Even if the 1-turn secondary is lifted significantly away from the coil, it still heats up.

Why is this weird? After all, it's just the way that normal transformers work. But think for a moment. In donut-inductors, the magnetic field-lines from each turn of wire extend over to the area enclosed by the next turn of wire, and as a result the magnetic field connects in a circle, and no field extends past the surface of the donut. Yet the secondary coil is entirely *outside* the donut, and therefor the magnetic flux never touches it. We can even use a large, narrow toroid (a hoop-like primary coil) and wind a floppy secondary over it so that the turns of the secondary coil remain many inches away from the wires of the primary and many inches away from the magnetic flux it encloses. The question arises: how does the magnetic field inside the donut-inductor create a current in the secondary coil if no magnetic flux comes anywhere near the the secondary coil?

The field around a donut-inductor is odd because it acts as if it cannot be shielded. If we try to place a metal shield between the primary and secondary of the donut-transformer, this simply creates another "shorted secondary winding" on the transformer. The shield becomes hot and draws an additional energy-flow from the wall plug, but as long as the resistance of the windings is low, this won't stop our original secondary from drawing its own, independent energy flow. Apparently the "voltage circles" surrounding a donut-transformer are unshieldable.

Note also that tesla 'radiant energy' i.e. the Steven Mark's 'kicks' also has this unshielded aspect.

Steven Mark also told us to investigate the anomalies of a toroid...


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« Reply #233 on: June 15, 2006, 01:26:19 AM »
Well, it is not the flux density at work, but the magnetic vector potential A .
The flux density is always just the output of a vectorpotential change  dA/dt .

So this is always overseen in magnetic circuits.
This is why it is much more intelligent to try to design magnetic circuits
from looking at the magnetic vector potential A, which is perpendicular to
 flux density B !

You can NOT explain a transformer logically with the fluxdensity change dB/dt
but you can explain it very well with the dA/dt change !

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #234 on: June 15, 2006, 01:32:33 AM »
Hmm, too bad I don?t have much time now, so I can?t experiment, but if somebody has
a pulse generator and some free time and some iron wire,
please test the following:

Please wire up an aircore coil from iron wire , e.g. 250 windings and
try to pulse it with short voltage pulse spikes.
You can alternatively also use a 12 Volt battery and use a toggle switch to
pulse 12 Volts pulses onto the coil mechanically, which might be
even better, as the mechanical contact can have more effects...
You will see, that an iron coil has no Back EMF voltage !

That I had already tested last year !
It seems that themagnetic flux generated is just sucked in
by its own material and it also would be interesting to see,
from which amperage on you can repell a permanent magnet...
As small amperage would probably not produce a big external
magnet field you would need probably more amperage than in
a copper coil to produce the same repelling forces onto a permanent magnet,
as the permanent magnet always wants to attract the iron coil....
See, what pulsing of the iron coil will get you....
Where is the resonance frequency and how will you get
Back EMF at all ?

Then also wind a copper coil around the iron coil, as if the iron
coild would be the core of a transformer and see, what will show
up on a scope at the copper coil, if you pulse the iron coil...
Maybe you can see several pulse spikes on the copper coil output
when you just pulse with ONE pulse the iron coil ?

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #235 on: June 15, 2006, 01:48:06 AM »
So, what resonant frequency should we design out resonant circuits to:

Schumann Resonance: 7.83Hz
--- wavelength of  38287670 meters 38287km!

OR

Magnetic Field Resonance: 173.9KHz
--- wavelength of 1723.93593 meters - 1/4 wavelength of 861.967965
--- wavelength of 5655.95777 feet - 1/4 wavelength of 1413.9894425
--- wavelength of 67871.49324 inches - 1/4 wavelength 16967.87331

On a tesla secondary the wirelength used is a quarter wavelength. I don't know whether this is strictly relevant but I've given the wavelengths above incase they ring any bells with numbers that are the same or very near, that you've seen else where or in other devices.

By the way I found this website to convert between units rather than plugging numbers into a calculator:
http://www.1728.com/freqwave.htm

Given that a magnetic field from a magnet seemed to set the coils in motion. I'm assuming that the coils are tuned to the Magnetic Field Resonance and that the 7.8Hz vibration that Steven once mentioned is a side effect of this tuning.

Diameters of Steven Marks coil - are 5 inches (from Engineers report)
2.5 inches - mentioned by Steven on video.
15 inches - my guess by looking at the video.

As Steven Mark said the frequency is related to the circumference of the TPU (and therefore the diameter).
Although I'm used to dealing in meters/centimeter I think our measurement units should be in feet and inches.

I'm going to try and come up with some calcs for the 2.5 inch version... I'm assuming this will need less wire...

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #236 on: June 15, 2006, 02:01:14 AM »
Well, it is not the flux density at work, but the magnetic vector potential A .
The flux density is always just the output of a vectorpotential change  dA/dt .

So this is always overseen in magnetic circuits.
This is why it is much more intelligent to try to design magnetic circuits
from looking at the magnetic vector potential A, which is perpendicular to
 flux density B !

You can NOT explain a transformer logically with the fluxdensity change dB/dt
but you can explain it very well with the dA/dt change !


Hi Hartiberlin,
Not familiar with the term magnetic vector potential A - is this the Electric Field component of an electromagnetic wave ? or related by some formula ?

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« Reply #237 on: June 15, 2006, 02:33:28 AM »
Hmm, it is the curl of magnetic flux density B.
But it can be seen as a perpendicular circle around the
flux density circle .
So the electron flow in a wire is really only caused by the A field,
cause it directly propells the electrons.
( The electrons flow in the same direction the A-Field curls around
the magnetic flux line...)
The magnetic field line
around a conductor is only a side effect !
So in a transformer with a circular iron core , where the
B-field from the primary is totally inside the core, the scondary coil
just gets its power from the changing A-field and  not from the
changing B-field.

What would be interesting to study would be a transformer,
that has a DC current in its primary coil, but the core diameter is
changing ! This will also induce power in the secondary coil,
as the A-Field is changing !
or build 2 iron cores in each other, one with a bigger diameter
and have on each core a primary winding.
Then switch the primary current from the bigger diameter core coil to the
smaller diameter core coil and have a secondary coil going through
both cores.
Thus you will change the diameter electronically and thus have a changing
diameter core... This will induce current inside the secondary coil....but I don?t know,
if this have a Lentz effect on the power source....
so ifyou draw power from the secondary it might not be reflected back to the 2 switched
primary coils...

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #238 on: June 15, 2006, 02:40:07 AM »
Magnetic Field Resonance: 173.9KHz
--- wavelength of 1723.93593 meters - 1/4 wavelength of 861.967965
--- wavelength of 5655.95777 feet - 1/4 wavelength of 1413.9894425
--- wavelength of 67871.49324 inches - 1/4 wavelength 16967.87331
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Diameters of Steven Marks coil - are 5 inches (from Engineers report)
2.5 inches - mentioned by Steven on video.
15 inches - my guess by looking at the video.

As Steven Mark said the frequency is related to the circumference of the TPU (and therefore the diameter).


I think I've found something that is either amazingly coincidental or extremely relevant...

Given that 'pi' 3.1415926535897932384626433832795 etc is used in coil calcs and in calculating circumference from the diameter I decided to divide the wavelengths by 'pi' to see what I would get. I choose feet because this is the unit of measurement that Steven Mark used.

Guess what: 5655.95777 / 3.1415926535897932384626433832795 = 1800.3472740290264967375540913472

What are the chances that dividing by 'pi' is going to be 1800 and a decimal and not 1801 and a decimal but 1800 ? But also that the Steven Mark diameters of 2.5, 5 and 15 are exactly divisible into 1800 ie. factors.

And similarly for the quarter wavelength 1413.9894425 / 3.1415926535897932384626433832795 =
450.08681850725662418438852283681

And 450 is also exactly divisible by 2.5, 5 and 15.

Working backward:

1800 x 3.1415926535897932384626433832795 = 5654.8667764616278292327580899031feet

Wavelength of 5654.86677feet = Frequency of   173.933551kHz

This has got to be relevant ? Or is it a mathematical oddity ?

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« Reply #239 on: June 15, 2006, 02:53:50 AM »
Hmm, yes, seems interesting...
Maybe he is just pulsing his iron wire coil with around 180 Khz,
where the Barkhausen noise occurs and this way with one single pulse
he can get several pulses from the barkhausen domain jumps in his iron wire
and if he feeds these back in a collector coil wound around the iron coil, he can have a positive
feedback loop, so this thing gets itsself to oscillate ?

 

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