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Offline Vortex1

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2730 on: September 11, 2007, 03:50:28 AM »
 Regarding sprockets mentioned earlier by z_p_e:
Very first SM device....
 Consider a pair of circular hard steel discs perhaps 6 inches in diameter joined rigidly with a central steel spindle,  This would resemble a wire spool. What we have is a Chladni resonator, in essence a tuning fork rotated through 360 degrees radially. If we wind the central steel spindle with copper wire and pulse it with two or more frequencies, the magnetic attraction and repulsion of the field at the edges of the discs will cause them to produce acoustic waves with maximum amplitude at the edges. We are shock exciting our radially designed tuning fork. We can obtain standing waves and moving waves at the edges of the discs, again this is critically dependent on the frequencies involved.
     Now if we were to form a wire into a sine wave and glue it vertically to the edge of the disc, we have an interesting device that can possibly rectify (by ratchet effect) phonon drag of electrons.
As the serpentine wire is acoustically vibrated up and down, visualize the electrons being accelerated and bunched at the peaks and valleys of our edgewise mounted wire. Normally this will produce no flow of electrons in the wire as they are captured at the peaks and valleys. With one more frequency however, a moving acoustic wave sweeps through the serpentine wire causing the electrons to ratchet (spill over) through succesive peaks. (garden hose visualization of S. Mark.)
  The movement of the electrons would cause considerable heating effects in the serpentine wire as they are being vibrated ultrasonically at the edges of the disc.
When the correct frequencies are found, the disc will have four quadrants of standing waves, therefore four separate serpentine windings on each disc will be used and properly phased to produce the high emf output. Tuning would be sharp due to the high Q of the resonator. Besides Direct Current, at the output there would be considerable thermal noise and residual harmonics of the frequencies utilized (hash).
  If one needed to test this theory quickly, one could grab a pair of bicycle sprockets, fasten them rigidly with a central spindle, wind the central exciter coil on the central spindle and weave the collector wire through the sprocket teeth in quadrants, forming the serpentine visualization of the very first SM device. Is this what SM did?
 This could be a magneto-acoustic-electric generating device. SM was into acoustics.
After studying all the info for over a year now, this is my best WAG......V.
« Last Edit: September 11, 2007, 04:25:12 AM by Vortex1 »

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2730 on: September 11, 2007, 03:50:28 AM »

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2731 on: September 11, 2007, 04:49:14 AM »
good to see you Vortex,  I see what you're saying, certainly possible.  I too like the accoustic/vibratory theories for the simple fact that we can reach into the low frequencies.   Try that with and LC tank circuit and dimentions become huge.  However, I saw that type of spool before, just can't find a picture of it on the internet just yet.  It could still vibrate, don't get me wrong, but I doubt it's a sproket like zpe and you are saying, but hey we'll know for sure when somebody produces a better photo or video.

EM

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2732 on: September 11, 2007, 03:56:57 PM »
Here's an illustration I did to explain the field vectors that play a part in the Schumann resonance, and how we can possibly tap this energy.

EM


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« Reply #2732 on: September 11, 2007, 03:56:57 PM »
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2733 on: September 11, 2007, 06:06:56 PM »
Regarding sprockets mentioned earlier by z_p_e:
Very first SM device....
 Consider a pair of circular hard steel discs perhaps 6 inches in diameter joined rigidly with a central steel spindle,  This would resemble a wire spool. What we have is a Chladni resonator, in essence a tuning fork rotated through 360 degrees radially. If we wind the central steel spindle with copper wire and pulse it with two or more frequencies, the magnetic attraction and repulsion of the field at the edges of the discs will cause them to produce acoustic waves with maximum amplitude at the edges. We are shock exciting our radially designed tuning fork. We can obtain standing waves and moving waves at the edges of the discs, again this is critically dependent on the frequencies involved.
     Now if we were to form a wire into a sine wave and glue it vertically to the edge of the disc, we have an interesting device that can possibly rectify (by ratchet effect) phonon drag of electrons.
As the serpentine wire is acoustically vibrated up and down, visualize the electrons being accelerated and bunched at the peaks and valleys of our edgewise mounted wire. Normally this will produce no flow of electrons in the wire as they are captured at the peaks and valleys. With one more frequency however, a moving acoustic wave sweeps through the serpentine wire causing the electrons to ratchet (spill over) through succesive peaks. (garden hose visualization of S. Mark.)
  The movement of the electrons would cause considerable heating effects in the serpentine wire as they are being vibrated ultrasonically at the edges of the disc.
When the correct frequencies are found, the disc will have four quadrants of standing waves, therefore four separate serpentine windings on each disc will be used and properly phased to produce the high emf output. Tuning would be sharp due to the high Q of the resonator. Besides Direct Current, at the output there would be considerable thermal noise and residual harmonics of the frequencies utilized (hash).
  If one needed to test this theory quickly, one could grab a pair of bicycle sprockets, fasten them rigidly with a central spindle, wind the central exciter coil on the central spindle and weave the collector wire through the sprocket teeth in quadrants, forming the serpentine visualization of the very first SM device. Is this what SM did?
 This could be a magneto-acoustic-electric generating device. SM was into acoustics.
After studying all the info for over a year now, this is my best WAG......V.

The turbo coil fits very close...

--giantkiller.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2734 on: September 12, 2007, 12:40:53 AM »
supposing the inventor has been silenced, can we back engineer based on the YouTube video, get it right and get it into production? the secrecy has to be broken like a housemessing dog. this should be looked at as a military-like struggle. because apparently some of these devices are being suppressed by such means.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2735 on: September 12, 2007, 01:50:49 AM »
Ledfut welcome to the forum as your first post but i see you went direct to page 9567 :)  The inventor Steven Mark sold the IP rights lock stock and barrel to another company some 10 years ago. So he can say nothing apart from 1 or 2 cryptic clues left behind a bit over 12 months ago. The fact the device was seen by many top engineers then sold off for a nice sum means im in no doubt the device is very real. Thus our quest to rebuild it.

The problem is there are 8703 members plenty more fleeting guests of which only about 700 actually pick a soldering iron and they are involved in a hundred other projects on here too so there may be not  more then 50 actively winding coils and playing with ideas. Of those 50 TPU testers some may have been and gone after getting shocked a few times and getting no where. Only 10 will get close because unless you got like 20 years of electronic DIY experience/ pretty well qualified  i just don't think you will stumble on it by chance.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2736 on: September 12, 2007, 02:01:29 AM »
sprockets and cogs? come on please. LOL

 You can see clearly the 1st models were based on a cable drum dappled with glue blobs and tape nothing more. If it used sprockets and need a wave cavity why don't all the models look similar?

SM has already given a list of instructions to build it and sprockets definitively not on the shopping list. Next you be telling me the glue blobs is actually highly radioactive paint to rip the electrons from the central reactor core.

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« Reply #2736 on: September 12, 2007, 02:01:29 AM »
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2737 on: September 12, 2007, 02:43:54 AM »
Right, of course...

...been here barely two weeks and already you've got everything figured out.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2738 on: September 12, 2007, 03:09:17 AM »
Ledfut welcome to the forum as your first post but i see you went direct to page 9567 :)  The inventor Steven Mark sold the IP rights lock stock and barrel to another company some 10 years ago. So he can say nothing apart from 1 or 2 cryptic clues left behind a bit over 12 months ago. The fact the device was seen by many top engineers then sold off for a nice sum means im in no doubt the device  is very real. Thus our quest to rebuild it.

The problem is there are 8703 members plenty more fleeting guests of which only about 700 actually pick a soldering iron and they are involved in a hundred other projects on here too so there may be not  more then 50 actively winding coils and playing with ideas. Of those 50 TPU testers some may have been and gone after getting shocked a few times and getting no where. Only 10 will get close because unless you got like 20 years of electronic DIY experience/ pretty well qualified  i just don't think you will stumble on it by chance.

Please, Bolt, do not let the chinese whispers prevail i really need to pull you up here..you have made a few excellent and relevant posts.
I normally would not comment but others will read this too. Let me clarify.

The "falsehoods" or assumptions you make are

1. Sold out for a nice sum

He actually has made an agreement that he hopes will be successful but he feels that it is taking a longer time than it should .There is no "nice sum" that you mentioned but perhaps you may reveal your source on this if it is other than your verdict.

2. Clues are over 12 months old

there are multiple clues, many very recent,  there are even specific things recommended. but only 1 or two are considered relevant by most who are attracted to this .Some specifics are  ignored by about all despite the best efforts of some, including the inventor. WHY IS THAT!!?

Your second paragraph however is extremely relevant
@Ledfut



it will take you some weeks to get through and longer to absorb but read this thread from the start and see how you go..take your time ...yes, its too long. obviously it will get longer for the reasons i have explained, and as we are currently experiencing ....or so we might ASS U. ME

Please read though an make your own "assumptions" rather than rely on those of others others however well intended.Perhaps you will have something useful to contribute



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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2738 on: September 12, 2007, 03:09:17 AM »
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2739 on: September 12, 2007, 05:28:07 AM »
Hi all,

I have locked this thread temporarily 

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2740 on: September 16, 2007, 02:01:47 PM »
The easiest way to discover "conversion"

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2741 on: September 16, 2007, 03:21:48 PM »
mannix you opened the thred agin

and paint half the picture why not finish the painting this is your thred

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2742 on: September 16, 2007, 08:43:54 PM »
Steven told me, that he was approached and harrassed by US agencies and he was told to keep his invention secret and shut up about it, 'in the name of national security'. So he had a fear to publish anything. I wonder if he had to hand over any of his tech to the agencies and if it is used now already in black projects ?


Hello

I have some large toroidal cores (6.5") that I am experimenting with and will update you all as time passes.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2743 on: September 17, 2007, 02:57:42 AM »
Hi all,

This thread will pause for a little while so that every body has time to get up to speed.

There have been many attempts to recreate the conversion events that occour in the tpu.
The best so far have been GK's GK4 and Otto's E.C.D.

Despite their use of square waves and noisy switching devices there was still interaction happening that may lead to the discovery of the correct paramaters to have  controllable conversion.

The TPU is a harmonically interactive device that is driven with pure frequencies that interact within the space of the collector circumference. This interaction is an accelerating field that causes high speed electron flow.....a particle accelerator..
Tubes are used to experiment with..because they are easier, especially to begin with!


The clues that have been given could be considered vague by some and there are very few specifics..except for One and that is to use electron tubes to begin to experiment with.

Those of you with out the capacity to use the most rudimentary of electronic devices should really not bother with the tpu at this stage, Most especially refrain form giving advice to others. however perhaps in a few years time your skills might be usefull , right now they are can only be misleading .....any thing that leads any body away from the few specifics is misleading. There are volumes of information on tubes, all of it on the net..they are not hard..they are easier ....And they dont fail!

Please do not take offence but do try to listen to  what I am trying to  explain here.
So you might have to learn something that you consider old technology. I ask you have you seen an electron? There have been some fantastic theories and some great work that have  proven that ss devices are not what is required at first....just like the inventor said 2 years ago!

Thanks to many for helping to prove that even though the is a very,very slim chance of success if other guidance is followed which it is mostly not (centre mounted electronics)

The moment any thing unusual happens with your silicone devices...they will fail as explained to you ...in so many ways.  It is not unlike a nuclear reaction in that way...go figure. If you think that you are experimenting with something safe....again don't bother.


I was hoping for some assistance with this quest but it seems that people will only pick out some of "their"  easy bits and expand on those to fit their own ideas.
Im guilty if this as well in that I thought that by providing this information it would be followed as close as possible by some at least, and some of the work and all of the information would be come well known by all and open sourced.

All the information is here . It is not contained in the egotistical techno ravings of the grandiose.it is in the clues from the inventor which I have been given the honor to convey as best i could.

At this point i believe that I have failed in that regard and I offer my sincere apology to those with expectations this might succeed in the shorter term.


Many are doing really great work and I admire you for that it just sad (actually tragic)that you are not using the main clue!

There are many other great threads that will satisfy your passing interest and perhaps even have some success in some way.

Lindsay Mannix


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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2744 on: December 11, 2007, 09:52:33 PM »
I was thinking if there was a way to make a coil directional

 

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