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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2700 on: September 02, 2007, 05:47:15 AM »
The cut section:

Appears to be a "two collector" version.

If lamp cord was used for the collectors, no more than a few turns could have been made by the apparent size of the hole as shown.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2701 on: September 02, 2007, 05:51:58 AM »
Darren, are you kidding me?    Are you seeing sprokets for sure?   Wow, I guess perceptions can be wildly different, but I think I'm closer to the truth   Ha  Ha  :)


EM 

P.S.  The bottom coil is not yet wound, this is to just give you an idea.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2702 on: September 02, 2007, 05:59:47 AM »
Another SM photo

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2703 on: September 02, 2007, 06:03:13 AM »
@ darren

tell me why sm would say somthing in his video that is not true?

i built my gk4 with garden wire  power goes through the gardenwire  and it kicks so it can be used and was used in the first 2 or 3 tpus we see but not in the big tpu's they are all copper wires

look at the wite spots in the cut away 3 of them  top is collector a big square and notice the wing too the other to white spots are the tuned collectors see the 2 diffrent sized rings 1 bigger 1 smaller on the bottom of the cutaway 

em i dont think it is wound that way but maybe it is  it think it is the same as the gk4 4segment unit 1 layer top and 1 layer bottom twisted by a quartor turn


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oh yea i almost for got look at all the blueish purple in those pics bad cam maybe but maybe not maybe radient engery put there on porpus as a clue ya think??

now if you have a look at the sm 15 or 17 look at the wing and trace the angle to the center toroide it looks like it is around 30 deg

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2704 on: September 02, 2007, 06:56:30 AM »
EM,

I am dead serious man. Vortex and I came to this conclusion quite some time ago.

Have a look at these two shots. Zoom in further if you wish, but tell me those aren't sprocket teeth there, and they go all the way around.

Also if you look around the perimeter, you can even see where the white silicone was smeared in places. Those white areas sure don't appear to be wires in these shots.

Darren

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2705 on: September 02, 2007, 07:04:33 AM »
those were not the white spots i spoke of in the above post  in the cut away and darren any thig is posible might it be they are aluminum but the white stuff covering the wires i still think is tin foil

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2706 on: September 02, 2007, 07:16:10 AM »
The smear is due to the poor video quality, I believe.   Some level of reason has to be applied though, but I suppose anything is possible.  If that's what you see and it fits your theory, work with that.  But you're right, perceptions can be way different.

I wish Mannix had some clear photos of that one.   Maybe I should start work on another "fake"   Ha Ha Ha   :)

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2707 on: September 02, 2007, 07:16:28 AM »
One other thing I might add EM, is surely you've noticed by now that the two "sprockets" are not sitting parallel, almost as if they're somewhat fragile. Notice that SM handles this unit quite carefully while moving it from the case to the bench.

This is more likely to occur with two separate "plates" as opposed to a spool where the top and bottom are firmly connected by a cylinder tube in between.

I'm not saying I'm right on any of this, just how it appears to me. Take from it what you will.

Darren

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2708 on: September 02, 2007, 07:22:23 AM »
The smearing is definitely not from poor video quality. That's not consistent with the rest of the picture.

For example, two teeth (2 top and 2 bottom) in the second picture can clearly and distinctly be seen.  8)

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2709 on: September 02, 2007, 07:32:47 AM »
anyone know what happins to the magnetic flux when you put 2 oposing magnets togather like a homopolar generator or an n machine??

i bet 90 deg works its way into it hummm now think as the magnets as the controls and the sprocket as the copper disc you see the mags are already 90 deg to the plane or the disc pushing from the outside to the center in 4 places

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2710 on: September 02, 2007, 07:49:22 AM »
So Darren, then the sprokets have teeth bent up and down as well, so they can produce this effect seen here  ???

I don't know, I still think its a wire loosely wound like in the magnetic antenna patent I posted.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2711 on: September 02, 2007, 08:31:41 AM »
I'm not sure EM.  :D

To me it's blobs of silicone making that effect.

Maybe Steven is having a good laugh at our expense (and perhaps rightly so) for over-analysing the white spots in his videos  ::) .

Well, we're trying the best we can Steve. The videos are of poor quality, you can't argue with that. They are this way for a reason....I know. One clear pic would go a long way to "clearing some things up" though.  ;)

Cheers,
Darren

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2712 on: September 02, 2007, 08:37:59 AM »
Yes, just ONE GOOD CLEAR PIC ;)...

All I have ever wanted from the beginning of this original SM device.

I remember last year you talking about it looking like two saw blades Darren, and then I could see these. Yet, I could also see what EM is talking about, lol.

Out of all the devices, this one seems to not have anything to do with control or collector wires...

I'll have some more looks at this video lol, using EM's 'eye-trick'...

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2713 on: September 02, 2007, 08:53:02 AM »
Yes, then later Vortex set me right by pointing out that the teeth are straight, not angled like they would be for a saw blade... and I agree.

Anyway, Vortex "sees things" on the TPU2 that I simply can't, so as I said it's like looking at the clouds, everyone can see something different.

Darren

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2714 on: September 02, 2007, 09:43:37 AM »
Ah,
But alas,
There is smudging going on.
There are 2 spots where the wire paths are not to be seen.