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Author Topic: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"  (Read 1060184 times)

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #585 on: September 08, 2006, 05:41:39 AM »
Thanks Freedomfuel. I think we just disagree and have different opinions unless you know something specific about Stevens device and the MEG that I do not. If I am correct about Steven's device then it instantly moves energy from the Earths mantel. Tornados and such do not move energy from Earths mantel.

I don't think any of us can say for certain how Steven's device works due to lack of detail as compared to the MEG. I very very much disagree with you on the MEG as Naudin provided extreme details, which show "free energy."  I would very much like to hear your detailed reasons why you feel the MEG is not a "free energy" machine.

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Steven's device is a hybrid of the MEG and Tesla's work on capacitive discharge and current-less waves. More so the Tesla work though, that is the heart of the Mark device.

In my mind, the Mark device in no way uses energy from the Earth's mantel. The only reason Steven said that his device used the Earth's magnetism was because of the idea Steven got from reading old tecnical manuals on vacuum tubes and the effects of increased current at the start of current flow. Those manuals and other references simply didn't know the source of that increased current so they just said it came from the Earth's magnetism. Also, saying that the device works on the Earth's magnetism makes selling his devices that much easier then saying they run off cosmic rays or the aether or something else that is quite intangilbe and away from mainstream thought....

And regarding the MEG, it most certainly works, but the problem is that converting the uncurled-A potential(tesla waves) into regular 'current' can pose problems, another reason why Naudin used a 'conditioned resistor' to attempt to figure the power output.



I agree, after reading back through my tesla stuff, and the stuff that gray did... I'd have to.. Radiant energy is the most likely root of the power in the mark device. However it runs hot, or at least one of the coils does. What's unique about it is how he captures the radiant.

The capacitors, the buzzer(black thing in the center, for pulsing the dc), the diodes, the magnet at 90 degrees... it all fits. the circuit fits gray's circuit quite nicely, however, marks "splits the positive" a bit different than gray did. I can't explain the large coils.

It's interesting to note however that it's a combination of Teslas work. The rotational magnetic fields and the radiant. He generates power (or steps it up) with one, and captures it after the split with the other.

Gray's coil would jump 2 feet off the table when a switch was thrown. Tesla witnessed people dying from being zapped by the tendrils coming off the coils at 90 degrees. quite a "kick" I would say.

Resonance also plays a big part. There was a magic circle that tesla noticed in which he could place a helical coil, induce the effect, and watch tendrils of cold electricity crawl all over it. Different frequencies and distances caused different expressions of the energy.

Sometimes very deadly, other times very practical. The wireless power transmission, and death ray were the same effect, just different expressions of it, and utilized slightly differently. Kind of the diffrerence between a floodlight and a laser. Hundreds of millions of volts in tesla's devices. But those were powered quite agressively for startup power.

To really understand the kicks, you need to read tesla's patents.. A good suggested read is "the secrets of cold war technology" and Lindemann's "free energy secrets of cold electricity". Tesla also spoke in front of a host of engineers at one point, the transcript of that is a good read as well.

Unfortunately there's not much reading on Gray's device that comes from gray himself. He was a true student of Tesla, and sought out people who actually worked with Tesla in his research and development.

At any rate, I ramble on. SM's device works, and it's worth studying further, along with Gray's, Moray's, and Tesla's work. It's worthwhile work, but you can lose a lifetime to it rather quickly, and with very little reward. Success comes after much experimentation and investment in equipment, I'm sure.

Then again.... I could be wrong, SM could be interpreting it perfectly well. After all he said the device's on/off behavior is exactly the opposite in the southern hemisphere.

Who knows. As long as we're in the dark about the details, we'll never know for sure.


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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #585 on: September 08, 2006, 05:41:39 AM »

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #586 on: September 08, 2006, 06:33:03 PM »
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Then again.... I could be wrong, SM could be interpreting it perfectly well. After all he said the device's on/off behavior is exactly the opposite in the southern hemisphere.

Who knows. As long as we're in the dark about the details, we'll never know for sure.

I agree that anything so far is only speculation, as you said, "As long as we're in the dark about the details"  Indeed who would not want to work on something as exciting as Telsa's radiant energy, but even though I believe radiant energy is for real, IMHO SM device does not extract energy from radiant energy.

I think you mentioned something very important that should demonstrate the energy is not coming from radiant, "the device's on/off behavior is exactly the opposite in the southern hemisphere."  Perhaps we should focus on two coincidences.

1) The device vibrates at 7.3 Hz. This is a Earth resonance as waves traverse around the globe. Slight frequency variations depend which layer of Earth the wave is traversing around the globe and the frequency of the wave.
2) The device resonates at 5 KHz. This could match resonance between the device and the top Mantel or between Earth and the D-layer ionsphere or perhaps both. :-)
3) The device is directional and needs to be pointing a certain direction relative to Earth. This seems to also support the idea that the device is extracting the energy from Earth, most likely something that is directly below or above the device.


Does anyone know why Steven has not marketed his device? I can only speculate that the device does not work in all locations.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #587 on: September 10, 2006, 12:20:32 AM »
Has anyone considered going into UEC offices and see if they can talk with management about this device.  Actually..are there any offices to go to?  If they do exist, it might be interesting to find out more about this company and what products (if any) it produces.

Just a thought...but we might get some better ideas of what is happening with this technology or what kind of people are maintaining this technology. 8)

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #587 on: September 10, 2006, 12:20:32 AM »
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #588 on: September 10, 2006, 01:02:35 AM »
UEC shall have some patents about special coil materials .
A search about UEC will not give solution because there is not an official
"headquarter" !

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #589 on: September 10, 2006, 06:12:32 AM »
Hi Kosh,

This 7.3Hz is just a wild guess based on feeling the vibration with the hands.
It can be ANYTHING below say 60Hz...

Could you please tell us where you get this information from?  I don't recall Steven stating it was a wild guess. When someone provides a number down to the 1/10th of a Hz then they are usually certain of it.  It kind of sounds silly to say the vibration is 7.3 Hz when it is 60 Hz, lol.

7.3 Hz should be a big clue. :-)

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #589 on: September 10, 2006, 06:12:32 AM »
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #590 on: September 11, 2006, 03:31:19 AM »
is this the mentioned UEC corporation ?

http://www.uecus.com/aboutus.htm



Does anyone know for sure if this is the UEC company we keep discussing.  If so, are there any Floridian readers close to this place that would be willing to make a visit to this place?

Better yet can Mannix get Marks to verify whether this is the company or not?

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #591 on: September 11, 2006, 07:38:26 AM »
And I doubt a person can measure a 7.3 Hz mechanical vibration just by hand. That is silly!
Steven never said it was measured by hand and actually it would be extremely easy to measure. There are a lot of methods. A simple & cheap method is to use a speaker and a frequency meter or scope.

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« Reply #591 on: September 11, 2006, 07:38:26 AM »
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #592 on: September 16, 2006, 12:38:21 AM »
Back on page 16 an anomolous TV set was being talked about, I posted a piece on one in the old yahoo forum.
Isn't it when you broadcast a minute signal to an antenna and receive a larger signal than you would without the broadcast to be considered gain. If you can project a magnetic pulse into a larger field couldn't you somehow attract some of that larger field to the core of source? If you could I would assume this to be gain. A coil (aircore) sends out a pulse that's said to be infinite. So some is lost. No core present to limit the flux growth. But if we insert a core at the correct time and then colapse the field would it pull additional flux from another field. This core can be inserted using an electromagnet that holds no residual magnetism. I know I am mouthing off before I read all 155 pages, I'm sorry, and at my age I should know better.
Stephen , I can't get the link to energycoil44.jpg too work, can you fix it?
I stop and think of all the work I've done to try to iliminate the kick, we first blamed current source inverters of producing the pulse ( spikes going above 100KV) also open transition to close transition spikes). So forgive me I won't crack a book yet, I am accointed with this kick and marvel it can be put to use. (made it to page 20)
« Last Edit: September 17, 2006, 08:33:08 PM by raburgeson »

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #593 on: September 17, 2006, 10:48:44 AM »
Hi Tao,
this is very important information !
Did you get this information directly from Steven ?
have you been in email contact with him recently ?
What else did he email you ?

Better post this again in the Steven Marks thread also.
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #593 on: September 17, 2006, 10:48:44 AM »
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #594 on: September 17, 2006, 12:22:35 PM »
Hi Tao,
so is this the configuration of the 1 KW Mark?s unit ?

So 3 copper coils ontop each other with some control coils
wound around each copper coil and around all 3 copper coils...
hmm.. so the copper coils work as the output ?

Are the control coils then iron wire coils or also copper coils ?

How does he squeeze the water-juice out of the wire, without using
any energy ?
Is this some kind of Lentz law violation resonance effect ?

Tao,
maybe you can post your ideas in steps so not all
in one posting but your ideas you have now already and
the next ideas then next...

Thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #595 on: September 17, 2006, 01:51:38 PM »
This all makes good sense.
2 coils works like a Tesla coil and the 3rd is the collector coil to tap off from, much like a secondary only this would be a trinary arrangement. Could we have here a Telsa coil? Fat, squatty, and umphed up? The discharge is controlled instead of through the air. Could one use construction grade cardboard tubing, like what is used for concrete pylon forms? How about PVC. Just thinking of a base for winding. If you look at the SM17, it looks pretty crisp all the way around the ring.

So once again, we have
1: coil specs, for the 3 coils, gauge, number of turns, and seems direction.
if one looks close at the SM17 you will the outer layer is made up of vertical runs. Anything from 16 gauge to Romex(120v, 12 gauge) household? LOL)


2: clocking circuits. The Tesla coil idea could answer alot of questions. Is 5Khz in the range.
google: what is the frequency range of a tesla coil.
!!!And check this out!!! http://tacashi.tripod.com/elctrncs/ssstc/ssstc.htm ;)
http://www.angelfire.com/80s/sixmhz/trashy.html ;D


3: Any power, kick. I would tend to think a kick start is what is used. Remember the magnet start? And come to think about when SM engergized the 3,6,17 coils, there could have been a momentary switch to a charge cap?

Thanks TAO.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
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« Reply #596 on: September 17, 2006, 08:15:25 PM »
Good Morning, Viet Nam!. That's the best Robin Williams I can do except the one about Golf.

After further research...
Is anybody out there not sleeping, jumping out of bed Googling questions 24/7, talking about things at work like you're a nut case?
Obsessive, compulsive, creativity is your disease! But I digress!

I found some web sites with very informative, good specs on Tesla coils and what is on them are specs that fit what Steven Mark has and my claim that the coils are Teslas but with what I think are additions.
If you Google: what is the working freq of a tesla coil or what is the frequency range of a tesla coil ...

then http://www.richieburnett.co.uk/tesla.shtml

then http://www.richieburnett.co.uk/hfsstc.html 4mhz coil link from above

then http://www.extremeelectronics.co.uk//index.htm?http://www.extremeelectronics.co.uk//millietess/millietess.htm Derek Woodroffe's MillieTess project, the cutest little Tesla coil, 2" tall!

then http://www.extremeelectronics.co.uk//millietess/mtcct3sr.jpg the circuit. Notice the ZTX push / pull stage.

Now back to the 4mhz coil link from above: http://www.richieburnett.co.uk/hfcirc.gif Notice the ztx push / pull stage

Now if you look at the SM17, you see to large cylinders on top of a heat sink in the center of the device. I contend that they are either a pair transistors as push / pull coil drivers or a pair of Class E oscillators. Look at 'Enter the Class E amplifier?' on
http://www.richieburnett.co.uk/hfsstc.html and focus on the switch explaination. Another similarity, oh my gosh! I feel a party comin' on. In fact!, read the whole darn page. If you don't know electronics, try any way.
This could be stretch, but here goes. In the SM17 (Steven Mark 17" coil), underneath the heat sink are 4 AA batteries connects to a buck/boost circuit to boost the voltage or current only to start the circuit and ever so lightly tap the clock circuit. The coil KICK, back EMF, or the harmonic resonancy does the rest based on the tuning. So me thinks... But we all agree, 'There ain't much there'. :o

Just for grins: http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3cw3z/what.html
This is relating to light generation from high freqs and the connection to UFOs is inescapable. After all, are not our base measurements started from a frequency identification chart? A Tesla coil that generates Ultra-violet? Sure sounds like the NASA videos again...
This is gonna' take us higher ;) ;)

I have the 6" coil in my avatar mounted and will explain and shoot out doco tonight, hopefully in time for the evening rotation in Europe.
It's been two days of googling in the squirrel wheel. I gotta take a bath. My dogs are looking at me like I'm food.

If stay within your boundaries, you will never see what's real. 8)

I am in the 'Friends and family' program. They are all wondering where I at... :D



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« Reply #597 on: September 18, 2006, 01:45:12 AM »
Thanks Tao. Yes I am big fan of the craft stores also the cloth stores like Hancocks.
I forget about the styro toroids. Man, good snag. I now can duplicate the 6" in my avatar with this new model. Perfect fit!
But as you can see about the avatar the coils are attached by connecting blocks making it totally programmable. Like the old phone bank switch panels. Cool, huh?

So my stance has always been in these threads 'I am willing to do the hardware with any sound ideas upto my discretion. I reserve the right to keep the logic on the decisions short and sweet with minimum flexative diatribe'. Kapeesh? That is the standing offer to all. Tao, let me know if you think the circuits I found look like a fit to you and any misgivings you have about them. I address all here also.
Remember that the smaller circuits are readily expanding into higher power models quicker. And as Tao pointed out (God bless his techno heart) use the simplest materials at hand. We get there quicker!

Also, I have an R&D company and have been at this since I was 12. Designing, hacking, prototyping. My goal always is to come out smelling like a rose on any design problem. No vanity here. What I mean is "Commitment, Coordination, Completion".  Those words embellish the team spirit and group coordination. Give me bit here and I will throw the doco here. You can see by my avatar, "I mean business, I mean done". Sounds like Donald Trump, huh? Once again, anybody need proof? Google: Doomrod

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« Reply #598 on: September 18, 2006, 02:09:10 AM »
Hi giantkiller,

I like your go get-em attitude. I'm all about the bench testing also. Just today, I went to the hardware store to get a few feet of 3/8" clear vinyl tubing that I will be using to wrap the collector coils and control coils on. To do this, I will cut a length of the tubing to make the diameter toroid that I want (I'm shooting for something in the range of 4-6 inches in diameter). Next, I will split the tubing along the length and wind a bunch of either 16, 20, or 24 gauge magnet wire (haven?t decided which yet) through the inside of the tube to make the collector windings. I also ordered some litz wire on eBay to experiment with later on too. Next, I will wrap four coils around the outside of the tube toroidally in the same fashion as you to make a rotating field when I pulse the input signals into it.

I will also make two other tube sets like the first to make the three collector/control coil sets. After doing some testing, I may also wrap some wire around all three of them toroidally to see what that does. But I have a sneaking suspicion that I will get some revealing results just with one tube for now.

The biggest challenge I face at the moment is how to properly phase shift the input pulses to the coils by 90 degrees to get the fields to rotate. My immediate thought is to wire it like a two-phase motor and use a capacitor to offset the second set of coils by 90. Another thought is to make each coil pare a tank circuit and then feed the frequency into one and let the other one oscillate through induction from the first tank. (Have no idea if this will work like I think though). How do you plan to offset the input signals by 90 degrees?

God Bless,
Jason O

P.S. Does anyone have any theories on what the third toroidal coil that is wrapped around all three collector coils does? It is clear to me that the "coils wrapped in segments" around the collector are meant to make some kind of rotating field, but I'm not sure about the one that is wrapped all the way around all three.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #599 on: September 18, 2006, 02:23:06 AM »
There shall exist a third kind of energy !

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