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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #690 on: September 22, 2006, 08:13:58 PM »
Jason could you please post a picture from your setup, where you got 70 volts and 35 mA out ?

 If you substitute the 2 coils just via a capacitor, do you then get the same effects (maybe at different frequencies) ?

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« Reply #691 on: September 22, 2006, 08:27:14 PM »
I think the King giving the electrons a kick is a pulse generator giving a  short pulse to the control coil and then the party is the resonance of the control coil and the electrons then "jump" ? or influence bigger currents in the output coils as Jason and Dave have seen in their experiments. Now we need to drive the control coils only with short pulses and not square waves !

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #692 on: September 22, 2006, 08:30:04 PM »
The collectors are the "antennas" Stephan they are the ones that require tuning, not the control wires.

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« Reply #692 on: September 22, 2006, 08:30:04 PM »
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #693 on: September 22, 2006, 08:30:38 PM »
Jason click on Ottos small pic and it will bring you to a bit bigger pic at imageshack.com

He has one coil from plus 12 volts going to his collector, so that is a coil and no resistor or shotcut.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #694 on: September 22, 2006, 08:35:24 PM »
gnostik, as you pulse the control coils, they must resonate from the pulse, right ? Do you think the 3 collector coils must also be tuned to this frequency or frequency/windings relationship ? I go with the 3D pic Tao desgned of the TPU.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #695 on: September 22, 2006, 08:39:49 PM »
Dave, just wind a longer control coil around your collector coil and try again. Maybe then you also get more output. Also please try Litz wire for the output coil. You probably also need more windings for your output coil, so your effiency will go up ....

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« Reply #696 on: September 22, 2006, 08:44:23 PM »
Do we have a capacitive coupling between the control and output coil or is it inductive ? I think this is a very important question.
If it is purely capacitive, then more windings gives more power transfer thus more efficiency. And also multi strand wire=Litz wire will then also give better results !

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #697 on: September 22, 2006, 08:48:43 PM »
Marco, alright, caps can then be used in the final product, but just for testing it is easier to try with short pulses from a function generator, which Jason and Dave have done sucessfully and they are seeing all the "kicks" already.

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« Reply #698 on: September 22, 2006, 09:04:26 PM »
If we go again by the example of the garden waterhose for the output coil, you can get more water out via one squeeze, when the waterhose has a big diameter, so Dave try to use bigger diameter output coil wires. Try to use loudspeaker wire, if you have some, that is nice multistranded and use many windings, maybe even in parallel ?

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« Reply #698 on: September 22, 2006, 09:04:26 PM »
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« Reply #699 on: September 22, 2006, 09:09:47 PM »
gnostik, as you pulse the control coils, they must resonate from the pulse, right ? Do you think the 3 collector coils must also be tuned to this frequency or frequency/windings relationship ? I go with the 3D pic Tao desgned of the TPU.

Yes they do, but it seems to me that your going about it backwards. SM clearly stated that there are specific frequencies to work with, in order to make the collector coils you will have to know what 1/4 wave to wind them to AHEAD of time, since they are at the center of everything else, and you can't get to them after the fact, and if your too short, you can't add wire to it later on. Then you make the entire circuit resonant with them. Note: SM said frequencies, again, multiple.

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When I began to study the effects of multiple frequencies combined together, I found out that when you deliberately strive to create the worst case scenario of frequencies you start to get some very measurable kicks. In themselves they are not much. But if you make enough of them fast sendoff, you get a collectible power spike that is more then the power available to begin with.

What is he talking about here? What is the worst case scenario? It would seem to me that when your talking about frequencies, the worst case scenario is .... superimposition.

This was intended to be dripped into the experiment later but here it is.

We are getting ahead of ourselves here, this is all in the thread Stephan.

For now, we need to concentrate on the results that Otto, JDO, and Dave, and any other builders are getting.


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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #700 on: September 22, 2006, 09:11:00 PM »
Hi Dave, you might be right in the case of a real grounded device, but the TPU is not grounded at all, so the placing of the transistor should not play a big role....

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« Reply #700 on: September 22, 2006, 09:11:00 PM »
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« Reply #701 on: September 22, 2006, 09:16:32 PM »
Marco, caps is a good approach, as you need a fast sendoff, and fast SHUTOFF. That is the action that creates the bunching effect, and in turn creates the kicks.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #702 on: September 22, 2006, 09:18:17 PM »
Gnostik, you are right, pulsing a coil with multiple pulses will give a curious high power RF burst in it, as you can see with the Newman coils, when the commutator makes multiple very short breaking contacts from the battery to the Newman coil. There you have the same effect of immense radiation around the coil. Steven Mark seems to capture this radiation capacitively!

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« Reply #703 on: September 22, 2006, 09:27:01 PM »
P.S. In the Newman machines the radiation is lost, cause it is radiated away from the coil. if we would wire around the Newman coilwire perpendicular another wire and use this combination to build  a Newman coil, one could probably get very nice power out of it !

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« Reply #704 on: September 22, 2006, 09:32:40 PM »
P.S. In the Newman machines the radiation is lost, cause it is radiated away from the coil. if we would wire around the Newman coilwire perpendicular another wire and use this combination to build  a Newman coil, one could probably get very nice power out of it !

I'm not familiar with the newman machines. But capturing the radiant is the key to many of these machines. See gray's tube device that he used to capture the radiant after he split the positive.


 

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