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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #630 on: September 20, 2006, 06:46:24 PM »
@ Marco,
this might be an optical illusion from this angle of viewpoint.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #631 on: September 20, 2006, 06:49:53 PM »
hi Dave,
could you please try this attached to this posting circuit with your ignition coil please and post some
scope shots ?

Please try to use a low capacitive diode, if you have one,
as the capacitance of the nonconducting diode layer will have some influence
on the k?cks.
You can see this, if you put a  Nanofarad capacitor in parallel with the diode...

Many thanks.
P.S: and please don?t ground the scope!
It must be floating versus your house ground !

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #632 on: September 20, 2006, 06:55:24 PM »
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A good book about this is "Secrets of Cold War Technolgy - Project HAARP and Beyond" by Gary Vassilatos.  I also recommend the Tesla Longitudinal waves work from Borderlands research.  There is not really any online research about it.
Thanks, I'll have to get that book.  As for Borderlands research, their work is valuable, but some of their experiments are flawed such as the on suggesting fast than light speed. Don't get me wrong, I know fast than c is possible, but not as simple as they suggest and not in their experiments.

All theories are great and we should test them. Eventually someone will create the smoking gun and publish the detailed build instructions so that anyone can build it; i.e., a machine that is self-running (closing the loop).  That will be some day!  Perhaps the machine will be created by accident or perhaps a theory will lead someone into designing a self-running "free energy" machine on paper that will work when built.  If a theory is detailed enough and correct then it will lead to the smoking gun.  If not, then oh well, back to the drawing board, lol.

Looking forward to seeing everyone's experimental and research results.

Paul Lowrance

This book, Secrets of Cold War Technology - Project HAARP and Beyond is out of print. It's out of date at least in the U.S. Although Amazon UK claims to have some for sell:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Secrets-Cold-War-Technology-Project/dp/0932813801

There's a story in San Diego, CA, USA that is selling it, but I think their web page is out of date. I'll send them an email to find out.
http://www.thebooktree.com/mindcont.html

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #633 on: September 20, 2006, 07:06:53 PM »
Dear all,

I was thinking.  The capacitors in the large TPU are clearly electrolytic, and given their size, of fairly high capacitance.  Correct me if I am wrong, but using electrolytic capacitors in a tuned or resonant circuit is not recommended as they will explode?  Non-polarised capacitors must be used?

I think it is more likely the electrolytic caps are there to power the circuit in the middle and are continually replenished by the system?  If there are two oscillators for two frequencys, perhaps they have one cap each to power them, kind of keep the power more stable and prevent frequency shift?

That is right, they probably are capacitors after some diodes which store a charge only and have only pulsed DC on it,
so they are only there to extract energy.

The 2 yellow capacitors in the center seem to be the alufoil type capacitors who are used to control the
frequencies and which have AC on them !



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Also given the size of these capacitors and the torroid inductors in the middle, you judge the frequency to be very low?

I have been thinking also about counter rotating mangetic fields.  If you have counter rotating fields at the same frequency, there could be standing waves created in the collector coils.  As per Jerry Bayles AG work shows and Prof Stavros of Greece, that standing waves created in matter, can represent negative energy.  If negative energy is then created in the collector coils, this could explain the excess energy.  But then we know the coils heat up, so this wouldnt tally?  They should infact cool...?

How do you define negative energy ?

If no Barkhausen effect resonance is used to extract the power from iron coils, then
I guess it must be some kind of Lentz law violation, if only copper coils are used.
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Also, if the difference frequency or interefernce or beat frequency of the two is 7.8Hz, is this able to somehow extract excess energy by connecting with the schumman resonance.  Normally I wouldn't even bother mentioning that due to the weakness of the earths field, etc, but perhaps something else can go on when standing waves are involved?


Yes,could be, that he is using 2 frequencies with  a beat frequency, which he winds up so the thing is
like a vortex and sucks in external magnet field energy.
This also seems to be logical when you remember, that Steven spoke about the
compass that spun up inside the center... although he never demonstrated it inside any video.
I would love to see a video about the compass spin up inside the center..

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #634 on: September 20, 2006, 07:19:32 PM »
Jason!

I have tried to perform a simlar test as you.  I have tested a torroid with another coil rapped around it at 90 degrees.  Then I have tested sine and square waves.  I am surprised to find that square waves can induce a perfect sinewave in the second coil, but a sine wave on the input just makes a small mess on the output.  Also I have only few turns on the output, yet I can measure better voltage than the input.

I have tested the output by loading with 1ohm/5watt non-inductive resistor, the results can be seen below.  By the way, I forgot to test with input ground floating, will try that later!

For better tests I will need to build a square wave pulse circuit at the resonant frequency (determinded by scope sweep), then I can run off a battery and measure DC power used on the INPUT to I can compare easier.

Please note the input signal is in RED, the output in BLUE.

(note- first pic should say unloaded, not inloaded)


Regards,


Dave.


Hi Dave,
why do your input wave do not show up on your scope as sine and square waves ?
Is this indeed the current from the input waves ?
BTW, great experiments you are doing!
Please keep rambling on and explain in easy words the condition for the
Hooper E-Field with these circuits.Many thanks for all the insights !
Regards, Stefan.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #635 on: September 20, 2006, 07:22:21 PM »
Hi Dave, do you get with your nice 4 coils on the toroid setup
now also this  rotating magnet field ?

http://overunity.com/stevenmark/toroid_gen.gif

Did you put each pair of the 2 coils in repelling mode, so the flux
comes out of the core ?

Then you could probably lower the frequency to a few Hz only and
see a compass rotate inside the center of the toroid ?

Does this work ?
How is the lightbulb connected ?

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #636 on: September 20, 2006, 07:30:06 PM »
@Dave
what DC source did you use with the ignition coil ? 12 Volts ?
How big were the forward kicks and how long did they last ? thanks .

Hi Stefan, the source was a simple, 12v/4aH deep cycle battery, charged at about 11.95v.

The kicks seem to last only 10uS or less.

I measure the signal across the coil, not the battery.  This can be seen in the circuit diagram I posted.

I have the software I think you are talking about, it shows how cancelling waves generate scalar waves?  If this is the one you mean, I will post it on my site for download or something.

Torroidal coils can be used to deflect gravity, as only the Motional E Field exist outside the torroid.  Electrons orbitting in neutral un magnetised matter generate magnetic field, BxV, but as they all move in different direction the magnetic field sums to zero, yet the motional E fields ADD.  This field is divergent and pulls on electrons in surrounding matter and pushes away the protons.  Gravity is soo weak beacuse we only feel the difference between the push and the pull and this also explain why neutral matter also has gravitational field.  You can see the work of Hooper, or check it out here http://www.electrogravityphysics.com/html/contents.html

You may know the motional E field as the Vector A potential?  It falls off with the square distance and is unsheildable, it matches gravity in every way and fills in the missing link!

Anyway, enough of my ramblings.


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Dave.
Hi Dave,
yes,please post it and does anyone know, how to slow the speed of these
old DOS programs, so one can really see, what is going on ?
Anything faster than a 100 Mhz Pentium 1 was too fast to see the output the programs..

Dave , are you sure, that the magnetic vectorfield A is the same as the Hooper Motional E-field ?

I really have to study his work.
Many thanks.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #637 on: September 20, 2006, 07:43:33 PM »
Jason!

I have tried to perform a simlar test as you.  I have tested a torroid with another coil rapped around it at 90 degrees.  Then I have tested sine and square waves.  I am surprised to find that square waves can induce a perfect sinewave in the second coil, but a sine wave on the input just makes a small mess on the output.  Also I have only few turns on the output, yet I can measure better voltage than the input.

I have tested the output by loading with 1ohm/5watt non-inductive resistor, the results can be seen below.  By the way, I forgot to test with input ground floating, will try that later!

For better tests I will need to build a square wave pulse circuit at the resonant frequency (determinded by scope sweep), then I can run off a battery and measure DC power used on the INPUT to I can compare easier.

Please note the input signal is in RED, the output in BLUE.

(note- first pic should say unloaded, not inloaded)


Regards,


Dave.

Hi Dave,
well done tests.
Please also try with a higher load resistor like 10 Ohm or 100 Ohm or 1 KOhm.

What is about the turn numbers of your coils ?
Only copper coils or also iron coils ?

I see the drivercoil from your photo
Photo_092006_005.jpg
is only a few windings and is only going around a short distance
around the main coil and only at the outer side it is near the output coil,
as on the other side you have this tape layers  still there, so the distance is greater.

As TAO posted from the Steven Mark comment, that it works like a garden hose
if you squeeze it , the water will come out....
so only squeezing it at one small location will not make much water come
out of the hose, but if you squeeze the whole toroid hose at the same time,
if will come ALL of the water out in one big rush !

Now the question is, how we can lower the input power to do the squeezing
and get more "water" out, then we needed to power the squeezing !

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #638 on: September 20, 2006, 07:49:54 PM »
Jason!

I have tried to perform a simlar test as you.  I have tested a torroid with another coil rapped around it at 90 degrees.  Then I have tested sine and square waves.  I am surprised to find that square waves can induce a perfect sinewave in the second coil, but a sine wave on the input just makes a small mess on the output.  Also I have only few turns on the output, yet I can measure better voltage than the input.

Hi Dave,
does the square wave input have to be at the resonance frequency of the output coil
to get such a good sine wave at the output ?

What, if you just use short pulses, so if you use only 10:90 on-off pulse width ?

Could you reduce this way the input power and still have the same output power ?

Will this also work at other frequencies or only at the resonance frequency
of the output coil ?

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #639 on: September 20, 2006, 08:12:11 PM »
Hi Stefan,

Quote from: hartiberlin
If no Barkhausen effect resonance is used to extract the power from iron coils, then I guess it must be some kind of Lentz law violation, if only copper coils are used.

I'm curious, where would this information come from? You've mentioned this Barkhausen effect resonance on numerous occasions, but it was my impression this has not been verified yet.  I believe tao and others have repeatedly tried to find this 180 KHz resonance and even below this frequency and way up in the MHz range without finding it. Is there an experiment that tao or anyone can try that reveals this 180 KHz Barkhausen effect resonance?  Or are you simply refereeing to a theory or unproven claims?

According to my research there is no fixed resonance near 180 KHz in magnetic material. There is something called FMR (FerroMagnetic Resoance), but it's not a fixed frequency and is way up their in frequency. Also there's ESR (Electron Spin Resonance), and EPR (Electron Paramagnetic Resonance), and last but not least NMR (Nuclear Magnetic Resonance), but all these are not fixed resonance's and far from 180 KHz. :(

To my knowledge the field caused by Barkhausen effect is mostly random noise and somewhat broad spectrum. It's commonly known this effect is cause by avalanche effect and very pronounced in hard steel due to pinning and the free electrons in steel or iron dampen the avalanche thereby lowering the frequency spectrum.

Yes I would agree and debate any physicist there's "free energy" to be gained from the avalanche (the cause of Magnetocaloric energy), but so far nobody has proven this by closing the loop and publishing the exact build instructions for such a device. Yes, I firmly believe someone will one day close the loop on such a Magnetocaloric energy machine, but from what I know it is very tricky, but possible. :)

Regards,
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #640 on: September 21, 2006, 12:32:27 AM »
Guys,

I have noticed something wierd!  I have rapped a collector coil around my original coil so its at 90 degrees.  I am pulsing the control coil with square wave.  I can collect a signal on the collector, but this is the wierd part.  The voltage changes a fair bit depending on if I turn the coil upside down.  Up one way I get about 12mV across a 0.1 ohm load.  Turn it up the other way and I get about 98mV over the same load.  During this I change nothing, I just turn upside down.  NOTICE!  NOT only does the voltage change, but the wave form also changes shape!

Now, because of the winding, the direction of the coil is counter-clockwise whether its upside down or not.  Nothing on the coil changes.  Why should the collector care if its upside down, its still in the same place relative to the control coil, it doesnt know any different!

The only thing it changes relavant to its the earths magnetic field as SM said!  So if it can react to this, perhaps this can also contribute to its power as he said?  But I still do not see how.

IF the SM device has a threshold voltage, say for instance, mine was 20mV, it would not start when upside down, but when I turned it up the other way it would change to 98mV and it would start!

The only the differnt when upside down, is the current flow in the control coil relative to the earths magnetic field?

How can this work?

Note: for reference, North is out the right of the photos.


Regards,


Dave.


Hi Dave,
great results so far.
But one thing is confusing.
Do you still use your other circuit with the 4 coil driver at 90 degrees also with it
or did you just use the core ?
What is the white coil ? The control or output coil ?
Which coils are which ?

Strange, that you get different waveforms !
How could this be ?
Do you change any location when you turn it upside down ?
Maybe nearer to any transformer, so there will be any more induction ?

Try to use use higher ohm load resistors, so you are not only in the MilliVolt range,
but at least in the Volts range, then the error factor is smaller !

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #641 on: September 21, 2006, 12:34:27 AM »
Quote from: -[marco]-
... i was doing an experiment to see if it is possible to extraxt some power form a permanent magnet.
...
i read in this forum someone said the were defenitly not.
...
now i also read somebody said if you somehow compress the magnetic field and let it "snap" (just cut the dc power fast) it would preduce a "kick" to about 100 times the power of the magnet.

I love this topic. :)  Yes, absolutely 100% you can extract "free energy" from magnetic material!  If you ask most scientists they'll tell you, "Nope," but most scientists really have no accurate conception what's happening inside magnetic material on the atomic scale.

Now if you ask the correct person at IBM, you'll probably get an answer like, "Yes, it's theoretically possible, but nobody knows how."

I've posted this in another thread, but here it goes again, in a nutshell ->

Potential energy is being converted into kinetic energy as the electron "spins" align. There are domains in all magnetic materials at normal temperatures, but this is not the lowest energy state. The lowest energy state is when the magnetic material (includes PM's) are fully saturated.

In a nutshell, we'll always get kinetic energy when magnetic material goes from non-magnetized to magnetized. This is the Magnetocaloric effect. All magnetic materials heat up when magnetized and cool down when un-magnetized. The reason the material cools down is because the thermal vibrations (ambient temperature) force the "spins" to flip against the net magnetic field. This requires energy because the electron "spin" is going against the net magnetic field. So picture an atom striking the other atom, which results in the electron flipping, causing an avalanche effect. This avalanche and pinning for poor materials allows a group of spins to remain against the net field. The atom will slow down because it requires energy. The magnetic material cools down when the atoms slow down. Simply stated this is why magnetic materials cool down when the applied field is removed. If we get into details then we'll have to consider other forces such as changes in the materials specific heat capacity.

Outlining this entire process using conventional well-proven science we see without any doubt there's energy being radiated within magnetic material when it is magnetized. We normally don't see much of that energy because the magnetic material absorbs this energy. For materials such as hard steel a lot of this energy is absorbed due to pinning. In high permeable materials such as Metglas we'll see most of this energy is absorbed due to countless internal reflections. If we peered within Metglas as it was being magnetized we would see a sea of energy waves like a highly turbulent ocean.

The trick is how to rob that Magnetocaloric energy from the magnetic material.

Paul Lowrance

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #642 on: September 21, 2006, 12:36:40 AM »
Hi Stefan,

Quote from: hartiberlin
If no Barkhausen effect resonance is used to extract the power from iron coils, then I guess it must be some kind of Lentz law violation, if only copper coils are used.

I'm curious where would this information come from?

Regards,
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« Reply #643 on: September 21, 2006, 12:39:17 AM »
Stefan,

I have performed the test you asked me to.  I realise I should have connect the diode in that mannor in the first place, my error.

The noise is much reduced, but we can still see some positive spikes, and a few of them are at BEGINING of the Pulse.

Also, through all my tests I use a battery powered Fluke 123 Digital Scope, so there is always floating ground.



Regards,


Dave

Hi Dave,
these are the right results.
Could you please upload a scopeshot that shows the real RF burst spike in
its full swing, so just trigger on one burst and show a few waves of it in faster
x-direction-speed ?
( so one can the whole overswing over 12 Volts)

So these spikes go up to around 24 Volts ?

Now you see, why Newman can recharge his batteries !
These RF bursts seem to recharge the batteries or at least keep them longer
durational.
It only works via mechanical switching and the switching electrodes
play an important role !

Try to put some tap water onto your switching contacts and record
the waveforms again, you will see, that these waveforms will
now miss the spikes !
This is, because the contact is now made mostly via the water to water
and this then has no different metal contacts...
It depends really on the contact materials as I have found out some time
ago with my Newman experiments.
Please try it and let me know.

Many thanks Dave !

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #644 on: September 21, 2006, 12:55:12 AM »
Quote from: -[marco]-
... i was doing an experiment to see if it is possible to extraxt some power form a permanent magnet.
...
i read in this forum someone said the were defenitly not.
...
now i also read somebody said if you somehow compress the magnetic field and let it "snap" (just cut the dc power fast) it would preduce a "kick" to about 100 times the power of the magnet.

I love this topic. :)  Yes, absolutely 100% you can extract "free energy" from magnetic material!  If you ask most scientists they'll tell you, "Nope," but most scientists really have no accurate conception what's happening inside magnetic material on the atomic scale.

Now if you ask the correct person at IBM, you'll probably get an answer like, "Yes, it's theoretically possible, but nobody knows how."

I've posted this in another thread, but here it goes again, in a nutshell ->

Potential energy is being converted into kinetic energy as the electron "spins" align. There are domains in all magnetic materials at normal temperatures, but this is not the lowest energy state. The lowest energy state is when the magnetic material (includes PM's) are fully saturated.

In a nutshell, we'll always get kinetic energy when magnetic material goes from non-magnetized to magnetized. This is the Magnetocaloric effect. All magnetic materials heat up when magnetized and cool down when un-magnetized. The reason the material cools down is because the thermal vibrations (ambient temperature) force the "spins" to flip against the net magnetic field. This requires energy because the electron "spin" is going against the net magnetic field. So picture an atom striking the other atom, which results in the electron flipping, causing an avalanche effect. This avalanche and pinning for poor materials allows a group of spins to remain against the net field. The atom will slow down because it requires energy. The magnetic material cools down when the atoms slow down. Simply stated this is why magnetic materials cool down when the applied field is removed. If we get into details then we'll have to consider other forces such as changes in the materials specific heat capacity.

Outlining this entire process using conventional well-proven science we see without any doubt there's energy being radiated within magnetic material when it is magnetized. We normally don't see much of that energy because the magnetic material absorbs this energy. For materials such as hard steel a lot of this energy is absorbed due to pinning. In high permeable materials such as Metglas we'll see most of this energy is absorbed due to countless internal reflections. If we peered within Metglas as it was being magnetized we would see a sea of energy waves like a highly turbulent ocean.

The trick is how to rob that Magnetocaloric energy from the magnetic material.

Paul Lowrance


Hi Paul,you are exactly right and this is, what Omnibus does not want to look at.
This is in my view also the way the Finsrud device works.
He extracts this small energy to overcome the frictional losses and the
ball keeps moving.

Okay,  please let us discuss in this thread just the Mark devices.

Well, I still wonder, why the Mark?s devices then get hot coils.
Maybe there only some attached magnets get cold ?
( If he at all uses any magnets...)
Maybe also if he does not use any magnets, maybe only the
air around the coils then gets cold, but as the coils already
extract and convert the power and have losses, these coils get hot ?
( this would be for the case this thing works just as a Lentz law
violator, in case of a Barkhausen resonance unit, if there would be
some iron coils in there, maybe just the iron coils get cold and the copper coils get hot ?)

Well, or if the Mark devices really tap the earth magnetic field,
then they draw probably the power via some kind of resonance
and then they don?t need to cool down, as it is just an extraction
from the earth field to the device... So there is
always no violation of the first law, which I think is valid throughout nature,
otherwise nature would have been already collapsed, if the 1st law would
not apply in each case.

Anyway, let us concentrate again onto the experimental results.
Dave is doing a great job to post his eperiments here.
Many thanks.
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