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Author Topic: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"  (Read 961204 times)

Offline innovation_station

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2685 on: August 31, 2007, 04:25:04 PM »
now when we look at tpu#2 in the garage it agin is almost the same

why?

well there is still 4 segments but they are located all on 1 ring the bottom 1 but agin 8 coils except they are bifullor just like saurons avitar the schem in it look hard in those coils there is the bailing wire in between the bifullor winds

so smak the bailling wire faster than it can conduct it will make a standing wave and cupple to the copper also sauron implyed that there were 4 square moninotor transformers in between the coils and they must feed the bailing wire as the stungun does  and they will be fired 1 at atime or 2 at a time causing a bucking action with the magnetic waves that is then picked up with the transformers located at 90deg to the collector where the coils buck each other


does anyone agree

i think the transformers are the feedback and the supply for the next coil from the last coil no?

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2685 on: August 31, 2007, 04:25:04 PM »

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2686 on: August 31, 2007, 06:22:05 PM »
Good to see that "understanding before building" hasn't completely been tossed out the window.

Try that.

Smart Ass.

"Building" is the keyword in your statement. 

Jumping from theory to theory, trying to figure it all out first, is futile.

What have you built? Really, what have you built? If I missed it, please point me in the direction to see your build and test results. I did not see your "Bob's version" either, so pardon my oversight. Post a link my friend and I'll gladly go check it out.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2687 on: August 31, 2007, 06:29:08 PM »
well you all here have seen what i have done

so grumpy i guess i missed your coil as well i share all my work i wish others would do the same it is called open source  for a reason  ;)

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but it seams to me that most donot understand the concept of open source and that is my friends what makes this world a sad place

you all can bet when i compleat my work it will be free for all excluding the work what is not mine to give away for free
but if you look hard enought you will find what is required to make it all work


just think agin what open source is all about
« Last Edit: August 31, 2007, 06:59:37 PM by innovation_station »

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2687 on: August 31, 2007, 06:29:08 PM »
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2688 on: August 31, 2007, 07:20:26 PM »
I couldn't help but notice about the 2 types of posters.
Those that have built coils at whatever level and have seen what Tesla saw or gotten hurt or fried something including themselves or felt the shock waves on their body or gotten scared.
And the others. I guess that is why they are called sims.

I felt badly exhausted last night and wanted to go to bed at 9pm but stayed up till midnight testing. I saw really great results and went to bed. I woke up at 4am thinking more about the results. That is the cost of progress and the zeal of creation.

At a twenty buck investment I'd think you'ld even see homeless people winding coils.

--giantkiller. :D

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2689 on: August 31, 2007, 09:50:02 PM »
Guys we are all here for the same reason, let's try and help each other find that goal.
I want to say that if there is 1 person on this board that has help me out the most, with theory and circuit design and general chit chat and idea storming it has to be Darren Z_P_E so it really annoys me to here someone acuse him of not putting time in on this stuff.  :-[

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2689 on: August 31, 2007, 09:50:02 PM »
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2690 on: August 31, 2007, 11:37:00 PM »
Thanks for your support and encouragement Giantkiller. ???

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2691 on: September 01, 2007, 12:29:06 AM »
@all

I too support open source, I think I might fall under the definition of a sim? I have great respect for you guys who build the coils. However my aptitude is not building things, I have no skill their and yes when a working device is found I will build one. But I leave the experimental build to those who skill is in that area, by the time I finished my first coil you guys would be on Mars! I am more or of theory/researcher, does that make me a sim?

Do we have to put each other in little boxes, have we not been classified enough already by those in power? If we refer to others in such manners we should do so by the nature of our contribution to the collective effort, I think. Builder, Researcher etc... Sim has no meaning in a world of true individuals. There are no clones on this planet? (well apart from a sheep and bull?)

I try to find ideas like the photomultiplier post, that might link two ideas or provide some inspiration for further work, I like to think that I can help the builders this way, it is where my aptitude lies, of the mind, not of the hands. I think there is room for both, and cooperation by all is required, for without both types would progress not be slower?

However I think that a theory person has no basis on which to criticise a builder, builders build that is what they do, theory people should argue with theory people, if nothing is built that is no problem, the builders will take from the argument what they need and ignore what they don't...

Along these lines I am currently researching a rather obscure document I have been trying to obtain for 15 years and which may have some bearing on the TPU, it may prove fruitless, but if I don't look who will, and we might be worse off without it, that is my interest, and I will report back if I find any inspirational ideas or helpful clues.

Keep up the good work...

@Grumpy
Whether you are a builder or not respect the other builders, if you are not interested in sharing your ideas open source then you are in the wrong place my friend. You post a lot so I hope you have more to contribute, you are quite astute sometimes, have a heart and smile sometimes, you have your place in the scheme of things too, in this story....

@GK & Grumpy
I often burn the midnight oil in pursuit of the mission, its about the journey as much as reaching the destination and its about making friends on the way, the more who travel together the more interesting the journey!

Acerzw

Thats enough philosophy for one day... until next time... my fellow travelers...

« Last Edit: September 01, 2007, 01:09:36 AM by acerzw »

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2691 on: September 01, 2007, 12:29:06 AM »
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2692 on: September 01, 2007, 12:55:00 AM »
the message has been made quite clear

clearly a new direction is in order

will be modifying and expanding the TP900 to TP901 in favour of adjustable phase between frequencies, and F3 will be changed to F4. Experimenters with Bob's systems will be interested in this

an organized and fairly comprehensive document will be created outlining all essential information regarding Bob's TPS

if interested, pm me

folks here have dictated this is how it will be

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2693 on: September 01, 2007, 01:48:32 AM »
I been here long enuff and saw that it was getting serious so I thought I would throw something in.
I have gone back and reread some of mine and I am embarrased. But that was most of the beginning and there were alot of shots in the dark then. I've left the posts there for a reality check. Sorry for the potshots. Everything needs to be said by someone and if you don't get it out there none of it adds up to produce greater things. I was mocking the process not the diligent. It has been a year now for me and well worth it. The best year of my life. In fact the rest of reality cannot even compare for what I have experienced here with the people, electronics, physics, the building, the internet. Absolutely amazing. Ain't it? To be able to walk through and above the current status quo and know that it is woefully wrong. What a great mindset to behold as a gift for the greater good. Must be why we are all here?

There, now you know how I sound when I am serious. It's all good, my friends.

Now I go and not blow stuff up for once. :D

--giantkiller, Builder, ESQ.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2693 on: September 01, 2007, 01:48:32 AM »
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2694 on: September 01, 2007, 02:38:43 AM »
@z_p_e

I would encourage you to post on the forum openly documents you produce rather than by PM only. I think that you have taken that direction because of the unfair comments and criticism's that you and many of the other veteran posters have taken. But I would caution against that approach, for if something is not posted for all to see we may lose valuable input from people new to the forum who because of that distribution method may miss important posts to which they could add valuable information. And I do have no doubt that the content of your documents will be important, your track record makes it very likely.

I respect your views, but if everyone adopts that approach the forum will be worth nil and the collaborative effort will evaporate. Like I said before it's about the journey, there will be pot holes and hills along the way, but hey what a great view we will all get by sharing. You builders are made of sterner stuff, that is your strength.

respectfully Acerzw, researcher

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2695 on: September 01, 2007, 04:43:10 PM »
Good to see that "understanding before building" hasn't completely been tossed out the window.

Try that.

Smart Ass.

"Building" is the keyword in your statement. 

Jumping from theory to theory, trying to figure it all out first, is futile.

What have you built? Really, what have you built? If I missed it, please point me in the direction to see your build and test results. I did not see your "Bob's version" either, so pardon my oversight. Post a link my friend and I'll gladly go check it out.

Pics of Grumpy's coils and such:  (see attached)



@All,

Don't dare utter the damn words "open source" to me.  Every damn one of you has "something" you ain't sharing with everyone else.  Don't blame you at all.  If people want results - let them go get them.  This ain't no free ride. 

Many of the things I do are with other's involved and we agree not to post blindly, if even to post at all.  I don't post PM messages either.  I have respect for people's privacy and code of ethics - that means things are held in confidence. 

To top it all off, I connect at 28k - no DSL or sat here.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2695 on: September 01, 2007, 04:43:10 PM »
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2696 on: September 01, 2007, 05:16:42 PM »
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To top it all off, I connect at 28k - no DSL or sat here.

No wonder you're so darn grumpy...


Partially finished 15" "TPU" coil. Final 360? wrap not shown, but was completed later, along with some resonance testing. Taken Dec, 2006.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2697 on: September 01, 2007, 06:39:26 PM »
nice grumpy my fath is restored


i should have not posted my friends words i know this but look what has happened since then

action = reaction   see!!!!


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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2698 on: September 02, 2007, 04:45:52 AM »
I like the discussion on the TPUs seen in the videos, thanks Darren

Let's see:

TPU #1   Is indeed the first and simplest looking device.   Take a look at the pictures.

I agree, no 4-pole action necessarily, although we do see what appears to be 4 segments of wire.   This is  because tape was used to hold the wires down to the edge of the spool.

I believe the main wires that produce the effect are these two Top and Bottom loops of wire, in conjunction with the ferrite toroid on top.

EM

P.S.   There is a trick that can help in seeing blury images a bit clear without the use of computer software.   All you have to do is squint a bit wile you view the image.   Try it.  Look at the photos and close your eye lids just a bit untill the eye lashes start to overlap and distort the view, and you will see that the images become more pleasant to look at and you might see things you never saw before  :)
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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #2699 on: September 02, 2007, 05:04:12 AM »
Hi EM.

It's interesting how different things may look for different individuals. For example, this is what I came up with in my analysis. In particular, there are two things I see differently:

1) The spool or movie reel. Here I see a sprocket with teeth. Think of a bike sprocket, but with more solid centre.

2) The white wire loops. This I see as Steven's second favorite construction material; white silicone. Zoom in on that one spot you labled "tape". To me it looks like a sprocket tooth, and the silicone was used to "smooth out" the jagged teeth to avoid injury when handling the device.

Remember that Steven said it was "put together with bailing wire". It certainly looks like it was thrown together with what ever he had at hand at the moment. I hope folks realize by now that SM didn't use actual bailing wire in the build  ::)

Thanks for the tip EM, and the images.

Darren

 

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