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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #150 on: March 13, 2006, 03:05:48 PM »
Norbert, where do you see so many coils on the cores in which video ?
I can see maximum 4 coils on one core...
Also as your coils are shown NS NS NS etc.., the flux would be totally inside the core
and not coming out of the core into the air as it would be with the animated GIF.

Hallo Harti,

ich stelle mir das mal so vor, dass es eine gro?e Spule  ist (quasi als ersatz f?r den eisenkern) mit m?glichst vielen d?nnen von einander isolierten dr?hten  (wie bei einer HF-Litze). Auf dieser gro?en Spule sitzen dann die vielen kleinen Spulen mit unterschiedlicher wicklungszahl durch die dann der "kick" l?uft, ?hnlich  wie beim HOPE. Woher soll sonst das rotierende magnetfeld kommen, das hat doch Steven ganz klar erw?hnt!?  In den videos sind zwei ringe mit einem gewissen abstand zueinander zu erkennen. Also k?nnte man sich doch vorstellen das die gro?e Spule im unteren ring fortgesetzt wird nur das dann die verbindungsreihenfolge der unteren spulen umgekehrt verl?uft bei gleichbleibender stromflu?richtung. Steven hatte etwas von einem ball und rotantio eines feldes erw?hnt :

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17    Rotation of field. . . How many people think about that. If you could have a field that you could think of as a big ball. And you could rotate it in two directions what would the ramifications be?

Wie soll man es sich sonst vorstellen was er meint? Die beiden gro?en ringe stellen die nord- und die s?dseite der erde dar. Ich denke mal das sich um das ganze ger?t sobald es "hochgefahren ist" eine gro?es magnetfeld aufbaut ?hnlich wie das erdmagnetfeld.

Hab das jetzt mal in deutsch geschrieben, in englisch w?r mir das jetzt zu umst?ndlich gewesen.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #150 on: March 13, 2006, 03:05:48 PM »

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #151 on: March 14, 2006, 04:41:11 AM »
Norbert and all,
the question really is, if Steven?s toroidal coils are
really wired like a repelling fluxfield inside the core, so the
magnet field will go out in the air like this:

(http://harti.com/coil/toroid_gen.gif)

( This arrangement and rotation can also be got by
using 90 degrees phase shifter control circuit all total solid state)

or if it is like Norbert said in a NS NS NS NS fashion,
so the flux stays inside the core like the flux of a normal
transformer.
But if the flux stays inside the core I don?t see, how he can
get a compass to rotate in the center of the toroid !

Also there seems to be at least 3 different units,
so each could be designed different...
The main question is, how the coils are wound
and how these "kicks" could be superimposed to get a real
positive feedback circuit which is oscillating with its own power
from these kicks.

Too bad, nobodyhas yet scanned in the pages from the valve book,
where the reference to the kicks are.
Maybe some user from the USA can go to his library and scan in the
pages about these kicks ?
Thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #152 on: March 14, 2006, 04:47:47 AM »
I wonder, if you let rotate 2 of these toroids close at each other
and one toroid?s magnetic flux field turns left around and the other right around,
what kind of superimposed Moiree-Magnetic field pattern will be created in the
airgap around it and if this is enough to get an output coil a few inches
away to induce enough power (about 1 KWatts)  like it is shown in the biggest unit ?

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #153 on: March 14, 2006, 09:37:32 AM »
I wonder, if you let rotate 2 of these toroids close at each other
and one toroid?s magnetic flux field turns left around and the other right around,
what kind of superimposed Moiree-Magnetic field pattern will be created in the
airgap around it and if this is enough to get an output coil a few inches
away to induce enough power (about 1 KWatts)  like it is shown in the biggest unit ?


I'm also wondering why the HOPE generator is functioning. the only which we can do are eperiments around it to find out.

When you break a magnet you get two new magnets with a north and a south pol and wehn you put two magnet together you get one big magnet. And what about the earth? How the magnetic force and/or field of the earth is generatet?
the two toroid rings become two magnets which are mutually attracting and with opposite rotating magnetic field. And yes, it's crazy to think so.

The Tesla-transformer was build without an iron core but when it comes to coils we think automatically of a iron core like in the animation in your previous post. Why?

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #154 on: March 15, 2006, 02:25:27 PM »
Hi every body,
                  Can anyone tell me what bayling wire is exactly ?
  and can anyone give me a link to the hope generator/
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« Reply #155 on: March 15, 2006, 07:06:29 PM »
Hallo to all,

today i made a test with what i'm thinking how it works. unfortunately the wire gone out so that I could not wind the other ring. I used a 6V Pb-accumulator to produce small sparks and it shows me a flashing light emitting diode. it gives a better result when the anode of the diode is connected to the +pol of the accumulator.

vielleicht ist es ja m?glich das SM mit dem magneten einen art funkeninduktor ansteuert. das kabel f?r den ring ist ein lautsprecherkabel mit gen?gend d?nnen dr?hten, die aber leider nicht einzeln voneinander isoliert sind . war auch nur mal so f?r einen schnellen versuch gedacht und das ganze ist auch nur zusammengewurstelt, ich gebe es zu. leider habe ich keine messger?te um genaueres sagen zu k?nnen.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #156 on: March 15, 2006, 10:39:20 PM »
Mannix,

Please ask SM if one compass is placed slightly above the coil and another placed slightly below the coil if both compasses will rotate in exactly the same direction, in unison, and in timing.

Thanks,

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #157 on: March 20, 2006, 01:08:46 AM »
Here is a page 262 scan courtousy of Jason Owens from
the Valve book !

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« Reply #158 on: March 20, 2006, 01:16:10 AM »
When I understand it right, "kick" means in this interpretation a mechanical jump
inside the earth field, but this is just a magnetical caused mechanical movement
and not an electrial induction pulse.... so this is probably not the effect we are looking for...

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« Reply #159 on: March 20, 2006, 02:07:58 AM »
Hi Lanca,
normally we have Barkhausen jumps only in Iron material, if I remember
correctly. But this is a tungsten wire in a valve...

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« Reply #160 on: March 20, 2006, 04:41:16 PM »
That "kick" needs current to exist.

So, some uS (or mS) after the power is turned on, a HUGE current will flow in the filament,
generating a magnetic field that causes a slight filament movement due to the earth magnetic field.

Is this the same effect Tesla mentioned? The very first instant of a circuit closure?

Is the reciprocal valid? A slight movement will generate a huge current on the wire?



http://www.rialian.com/rnboyd/tesla.htm

The Unusual Radiations Produced by Nikola Tesla
(c) Robert Neil Boyd

    "Secrets of Cold War Technology", a book by Gerry Vassilatos

    OVERVIEW:

    "The sudden quick closure of the switch now brought a penetrating shockwave throughout the laboratory, one which could be felt both as a sharp pressure and a penetrating electrical irritation. A "sting". Face and hands were especially sensitive to the explosive shockwaves, which also produced a curious "stinging" effect at close range...

    "Tesla shielded himself with several materials. The arrangement of rapidly interrupted high voltage direct currents resulted in the radiation of stinging rays which could be felt at great distances from their super-sparking source. In fact, Tesla felt the stings right through the shields! Whatever had been released from the wires during the instant of switch closure, successfully penetrated the shields of glass and of copper. It made no difference, the effect permeated each substance as if the shield were not there at all...

    "Through successive experimental arrangements, Tesla discovered several facts concerning the production of his effect. First, the cause was undoubtedly found in the abruptness of charging. It was in the switch closure, the very instant of "closure and break", which thrust the effect out into space. The effect was definitely related to time, IMPULSE time. Second, Tesla found that it was imperative that the charging process occurred in a single impulse. No reversal of current was permissible, else the effect would not manifest...

    "The effect could also be greatly intensified to new and more powerful levels by raising the voltage, quickening the switch "make-break" rate, and shortening the actual time of switch closure... He found this "automatic switch" in special electrical arc dischargers. The high voltage output of a DC generator was applied to twin conductors through his new arc mechanism, a very powerful permanent magnet sitting crosswise to the discharge path. The discharge arc was automatically and continually "blown out" by this magnetic field...

    "By properly adjusting the inherent circuit parameters, Tesla learned how to produce an extremely rapid series of unidirectional impulses on demand. When the impulses were short, abrupt, and precise in their successions, Tesla found that the shocking effect could permeate very large volumes of space with apparently no loss of intensity. He also found that the shocking effect penetrated sizable metal shields and most insulators with ease. Developing a means for controlling the number of impulses per second, as well as the intermittent time intervals between each successive impulse, he began discovering a new realm of effects. Each impulse duration gave its own peculiar effects. Able to feel the stinging shocks, though shielded at a distance of nearly fifty feet from his apparatus...

    "Controlling the rapidity of current blowout in the magnetic DC arc, Tesla released a new spectrum of light-like energies throughout his large gallery space. These energetic species were like no other which the world has since seen. Tesla found that impulse duration alone defined the effect of each succinct spectrum. These effects were completely distinctive, endowed with strange additional qualities never purely experienced in Nature..."

    FURTHER DETAIL:

    TESLA RADIANT ENERGY:
    SHOCKWAVES

    "... while endeavoring toward his own means for identifying electrical waves, Tesla was blessed with an accidental observation which forever changed the course of his experimental investigations. Indeed, it was an accident which forever changed the course of his life and destiny. In his own attempts to achieve where he felt Hertz had failed, Tesla developed a powerful method by which he hoped to generate and detect real electromagnetic waves. Part of this apparatus required the implementation of a very powerful capacitor bank. This capacitor "battery" was charged to very high voltages, and subsequently discharged through short copper bus-bars. The explosive bursts thus obtained produced several coincident phenomena which deeply impressed Tesla, far exceeding the power of any electrical display he had ever seen. These proved to hold an essential secret which he was determined to uncover.

    The abrupt sparks, which he termed "disruptive discharges", were found capable of exploding wires into vapor. They propelled very sharp shockwaves, which struck him with great force across the whole front of his body. Of this surprising physical effect, Tesla was exceedingly intrigued. Rather like gunshots of extraordinary power than electrical sparks, Tesla was completely absorbed in this new study. Electrical impulses produced effects commonly associated only with lightning. The explosive effects reminded him of similar occurrences observed with high voltage DC generators. A familiar experience among workers and engineers, the simple closing of a switch on a high voltage dynamo often brought a stinging shock, the assumed result of residual static charging.

    This hazardous condition only occurred with the sudden application of high voltage DC. This crown of deadly static charge stood straight out of highly electrified conductors, often seeking ground paths which included workmen and switchboard operators. In long cables, this instantaneous charge effect produced a hedge of bluish needles, pointing straight away from the line into the surrounding space. The hazardous condition appeared briefly, at the very instant of switch closure. The bluish sparking crown vanished a few milliseconds later, along with the life of any unfortunate who happened to have been so "struck". After the brief effect passed, systems behaved as designed. Such phenomena vanished as charges slowly saturated the lines and systems. After this brief surge, currents flowed smoothly and evenly as designed.

    The effect was a nuisance in small systems. But in large regional power systems where voltages were excessive, it proved deadly. Men were killed by the effect, which spread its deadly electrostatic crown of sparks throughout component systems. Though generators were rated at a few thousand volts, such mysterious surges represented hundreds of thousands, even millions of volts. The problem was eliminated through the use of highly insulated, heavily grounded relay switches. Former engineering studies considered only those features of power systems which accommodated the steady state supply and consumption of power. It seemed as though large systems required both surge and normal operative design considerations. Accommodating the dangerous initial "supercharge" was a new feature. This engineering study became the prime focus of power companies for years afterward, safety devices and surge protectors being the subject of a great many patents and texts.

    Tesla knew that the strange supercharging effect was only observed at the very instant in which dynamos were applied to wire lines, just as in his explosive capacitor discharges. Though the two instances were completely different, they both produced the very same effects. The instantaneous surge supplied by dynamos briefly appeared super-concentrated in long lines. Tesla calculated that this electrostatic concentration was several orders in magnitude greater than any voltage which the dynamo could supply. The actual supply was somehow being amplified or transformed. But how?...

    The high voltage of the dynamo exerted such an intense unidirectional pressure on the densified charges that alternations were impossible. The only possible backrushes were oscillations. In this case, charges surged and stopped in a long series until the supercharge was wasted away. All parameters which forced such oscillations actually limited the supercharge from manifesting its total energetic supply, a condition Tesla strove to eliminate. Indeed he spent an excessive time developing various means to block every "backrush" and other complex current echo which might forced the supercharge to prematurely waste its dense energy. Here was an effect demanding a single unidirectional super pulse. With both the oscillations and alternations eliminated, new and strange effects began making their appearance. These powerful and penetrating phenomena were never observed when working with high frequency alternations...

    The sudden quick closure of the switch now brought a penetrating shockwave throughout the laboratory, one which could be felt both as a sharp pressure and a penetrating electrical irritation. A "sting". Face and hands were especially sensitive to the explosive shockwaves, which also produced a curious "stinging" effect at close range. Tesla believed that material particles approaching the vapor state were literally thrust out of the wires in all directions. In order to better study these effects, he poised himself behind a glass shield and resumed the study. Despite the shield, both shockwaves and stinging effects were felt by the now mystified Tesla. This anomaly provoked a curiosity of the very deepest kind, for such a thing was never before observed. More powerful and penetrating than the mere electrostatic charging of metals, this phenomenon literally propelled high voltage charge out into the surrounding space where it was felt as a stinging sensation. The stings lasting for a small fraction of a second, the instant of switch closure. But Tesla believed that these strange effects were a simple effect of ionized shockwaves in the air, rather like a strongly ionized thunderclap.

    Tesla devised a new series of experiments to measure the shockwave pressure from a greater distance. He required an automatic "trip switch". With this properly arranged, a more controlled and repetitious triggering of the effect was possible. In addition, this arrangement permitted distant observations which might cast more light on the shield-permeating phenomenon. Controlling the speed of the high voltage dynamo controlled the voltage. With these components properly adjusted, Tesla was able to walk around his large gallery spaces and make observations. Wishing also to avoid the continuous pressure barrage and its stinging sparks, Tesla shielded himself with several materials. The arrangement of rapidly interrupted high voltage direct currents resulted in the radiation of stinging rays which could be felt at great distances from their super-sparking source. In fact, Tesla felt the stings right through the shields! Whatever had been released from the wires during the instant of switch closure, successfully penetrated the shields of glass and of copper. It made no difference, the effect permeated each substance as if the shield were not there at all. Here was an electrical effect which communicated directly through space without material connections. Radiant electricity!...

    RADIANT ELECTRICITY

    Through successive experimental arrangements, Tesla discovered several facts concerning the production of his effect. First, the cause was undoubtedly found in the abruptness of charging. It was in the switch closure, the very instant of "closure and break", which thrust the effect out into space. The effect was definitely related to time, IMPULSE time. Second, Tesla found that it was imperative that the charging process occurred in a single impulse. No reversal of current was permissible, else the effect would not manifest. In this, Tesla made succinct remarks describing the role of capacity in the spark-radiative circuit. He found that the effect was powerfully strengthened by placing a capacitor between the disrupter and the dynamo. While providing a tremendous power to the effect, the dielectric of the capacitor also served to protect the dynamo windings. Not yet sure of the process at work in this phenomenon, Tesla sought the empirical understanding required for its amplification and utilization. He had already realized the significance of this unexpected effect The idea of bringing this strange and wondrous new phenomenon to its full potential already suggested thrilling new possibilities in his mind. He completely abandoned research and development of alternating current systems after this event, intimating that a new technology was about to unfold.

    The effect could also be greatly intensified to new and more powerful levels by raising the voltage, quickening the switch "make-break" rate, and shortening the actual time of switch closure. Thus far, Tesla employed rotating contact switches to produce his unidirectional impulses. When these mechanical impulse systems failed to achieve the greatest possible effects, Tesla sought a more "automatic" and powerful means. He found this "automatic switch" in special electrical arc dischargers. The high voltage output of a DC generator was applied to twin conductors through his new arc mechanism, a very powerful permanent magnet sitting crosswise to the discharge path. The discharge arc was automatically and continually "blown out" by this magnetic field...

    By properly adjusting the inherent circuit parameters, Tesla learned how to produce an extremely rapid series of unidirectional impulses on demand. When the impulses were short, abrupt, and precise in their successions, Tesla found that the shocking effect could permeate very large volumes of space with apparently no loss of intensity. He also found that the shocking effect penetrated sizable metal shields and most insulators with ease. Developing a means for controlling the number of impulses per second, as well as the intermittent time intervals between each successive impulse, he began discovering a new realm of effects. Each impulse duration gave its own peculiar effects. Able to feel the stinging shocks, though shielded at a distance of nearly fifty feet from his apparatus, Tesla recognized at once that a new potential for electrical power transmission had been revealed to him. Tesla was first to understand that electrical shock waves represented a new means for transforming the world... Tesla found it impossible to measure a diminution in radiant force at several hundred yards...

    Also, Tesla wished to determine the effect of gradually decreased impulse durations required greatest skill and precaution. Tesla knew that he would be exposing himself to mortal danger. Controlling the rapidity of current blowout in the magnetic DC arc, Tesla released a new spectrum of light-like energies throughout his large gallery space. These energetic species were like no other which the world has since seen. Tesla found that impulse duration alone defined the effect of each succinct spectrum. These effects were completely distinctive, endowed with strange additional qualities never purely experienced in Nature. Moreover, Tesla observed distinct color changes in the discharge space when each impulse range had been reached or crossed. Never before seen discharge colorations did not remain a mystery for long. Trains of impulses, each exceeding 0.1 millisecond duration, produced pain and mechanical pressures. In this radiant field, objects visibly vibrated and even moved as the force field drove them along. Thin wires, exposed to sudden bursts of the radiant field, exploded into vapor. Pain and physical movements ceased when impulses of 100 microseconds or less were produced. These latter features suggested weapon systems of frightful potentials.

    With impulses of 1.0 microsecond duration, strong physiological heat was sensed. Further decreases in impulse brought spontaneous illuminations capable of filling rooms and vacuum globes with white light At these impulse frequencies, Tesla was able to stimulate the appearance of effects which are normally admixed among the electromagnetic energies inherent in sunlight. Shorter impulses produced cool room penetrating breezes, with an accompanying uplift in mood and awareness. There were no limits in this progression toward impulses of diminished duration. None of these impulse energies could be duplicated through the use of high frequency harmonic alternations, those which Sir Oliver Lodge popularized, and which later was embodied in Marconi Wave Radio. Few could reproduce these effects because so few understood the absolute necessity of observing those parameters set by Tesla. These facts have been elucidated by Eric Dollard, who also successfully obtained the strange and distinct effects claimed by Tesla."

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« Reply #161 on: March 20, 2006, 06:25:59 PM »
That "kick" needs current to exist.

So, some uS (or mS) after the power is turned on, a HUGE current will flow in the filament,
generating a magnetic field that causes a slight filament movement due to the earth magnetic field.

Is this the same effect Tesla mentioned? The very first instant of a circuit closure?

Is the reciprocal valid? A slight movement will generate a huge current on the wire?

In the valve book above it is written, that the huge current is only flowing,
cause the resistance is much lower in cold condition of the filament
and the circuit was designed with the filament being hot to have the
correct resistance... so the  mechanical kick comes only
from the much higher current from cold filaments and their
movement inside the earthfield.
But this is no electrical induction kick which Steven has spoken of.
So where is the electrical induction kick ?

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #162 on: March 23, 2006, 01:53:36 PM »

So please start making kicks interact with other kicks .. you never know you might just strike gold!

Interesting that the KICK was the first thing that Steven chose to reveal.



I think a good way of doing this experiment is using a power mosfet and a pulse generator.


Yes, but what are you pulsing with the Power Mosfet ?
A transformer ? What kind of transformer ?

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« Reply #163 on: March 24, 2006, 12:10:35 AM »
Tesla harnessed the "kick" by discharging caps across a spark gap.  The information previous about the duration are correct.

I believe the spark is led by an ionization... just like lightning.  Apparently this ionization would run up the coil. That appears to be more capacitance than inductance.  So maybe then there is no current at all in the coil (at 100ms) and so there is zero inductance.
So it's electrostatic in nature?


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« Reply #164 on: March 24, 2006, 02:32:26 PM »

So please start making kicks interact with other kicks .. you never know you might just strike gold!
Interesting that the KICK was the first thing that Steven chose to reveal.
Good kick Hunting!



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There is a book about Nicola Tesla "The Man who Had lightning in his hand". I suggest that you find a copy of that book and read it. In that book it is related that Tesla states that you can have all kinds of electrons flowing through a wire traveling in different directions relating only to their potential power source. He even said that you could have different electron flows through a single wire completely separate from each other. I tried it and he is right!


did somebody also try out already this?

could it be that the magnet gives the first "kick" but this kick is separated in two "kicks" flowing then in opposite direction?

 

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