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Author Topic: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"  (Read 1188362 times)

orionjf

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #120 on: February 28, 2006, 02:22:42 AM »
I?m sorry if I introduced some confusion about DC components. For a better common understanding, we can consider the following:
- A pulse (every shape) from -2.5 to 2.5 volts, for instance, has not got any DC component (we assume a symmetric shape negative-positive).
- A pulse from 0 to 5 volts has got a DC component
- Both of them have an AC component (the same!!!).
Right? If right, we understand the same.
Then:
-I think, every DC component doesn?t generate anything in a coil. All emf?s or something like that are generated by AC components (consider the above example, both can ?generated? the same). If there are other cases I am very interesting to know it.
-The signal present in a coil as result of a generated (or transformed) energy will be AC pure signal if the process is reversible (because if a reversible process exists there are two possible outputs with the same input, that is not possible).
I think if DC components are observed, the energy generation process can?t be a reversible process. Then emf?s and analogues process can?t be applied.
Probably we are talking about discontinuities were usual models are not applied (as Kames explained with di/dt). Spark gaps are discontinuities, for example. Some of them are irreversible processes.
Regards

kames

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #121 on: February 28, 2006, 03:22:27 AM »
Hi everybody,

Took me almost a day to find one article, but finally have found. Will definitely save it on my disk that next time I don?t have to search for it again. Have a look at the next link:
Most of the stuff is well know, but search for the next text: ??.A significant difference exists, however, between continuous-mode operation and the sudden starting condition assumed?..?. Think about a short impulse traveling ?ALONE? or a ?kick? and read to the end.

Regards.

orionjf

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #122 on: February 28, 2006, 12:30:30 PM »
Very interesting article, Kames, thanks.
You can find another in the same web (the back page, http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_2/chpt_9/11.html ). The first figure is the fundamental idea of magnetic amplifiers. Mix this (amplifier) with soliton concepts and maybe we have a interesting material for studying.
Regards

rensseak

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #123 on: February 28, 2006, 07:14:49 PM »
Why should the magnetic shield used in color picture tube?

http://www.thaicrt.com/engfaq.asp#faq5

ELF and VLF radiation from deflection yoke

- MPRII
Swedish Low Radiation Standard. Monitors generate both VLF (Very Low Frequencies 0.1KHz to 400 KHz) and ELF (Extremely Low Frequencies 1 Hz - 1000 Hz ) frequencies. These EM fields are generated by the monitor's deflection yoke which positions the electron beams. The horizontal refresh rate generates frequencies in the VLF range, and the vertical refresh rate generates frequencies in the ELF range.
The Swedish National Board of Measurement and Testing developed a set of standards for measuring, and came up with acceptable levels for electro-static potential , alternating electric and magnetic fields.
Hansol monitors limit build-up of electro-static by using an Anti-Static conductive silica coating on the face of the CRT. Emission cancellation coils mounted on the deflection yoke are also used to significantly limit both the VLF and ELF electromagnetic fields.
MPRI Standards created by the Swedish Labor Unions 1986. First version of MPRII. MPRI only addresses VLF 0.1 KHz to 400 KHz.
MPRII Standard created by the Swedish Labor Unions 1987. This defines the level of acceptable emissions ELF, VLF, electric, magnetic and static discharge from monitors.
VLF = Very Low Frequencies 0.1KHz - 400 KHz
ELF - Extremely Low Frequencies 1 Hz - 1000 Hz
MPRII Limits
Electro Static Potential Within + or - 500 volts
Magnetic Field
Band I 2 to 400 KHz < or = to 25 nt
Band II 5 Hz - 2 KHz < or = to 250 nt
Alternating Electric Field
Band I 2 to 400 KHz < or = to 2.5 v/m
Band II 5 Hz - 2 KHz < or = to 25 v/m

http://www.hansol-us.com/tech-support/faq-html/ans20.htm

Kick start

Another suspicious circuit element in colour monitors is the degaussing circuit (refer Fig. 13). It acts only when the monitor is switched on and lasts only for a few seconds.

The red, green, and blue electron beams are always critically aligned to the corresponding phosphor dots on the face plate. However, local magnetic perturbations can misalign the whole set-up, giving rise to localised colours. Therefore it is necessary to ensure that the shadow mask and the other metal parts inside the CRT are completely demagnetised before the monitor is to be used. The process of demagnetisation is called degaussing.

The degaussing circuit sends AC current through the coil wound around the face of the CRT, generating a gradually diminishing AC magnetic field or H field. A typical degaussing circuit may have a peak-to-peak current of 4.5 to 6 amperes when switched on, and below 2 mA after 30 seconds. It does not perform a little extra job of demagnetising things in the nearby areas including the user.

The applied H field is always directed towards the face of the CRT and operates straight from 220V AC line. So in many establishments, expectant mothers are advised to keep away from colour monitors. It is alleged that while the colour monitor wakes up with a big yawn, the sleeping fetus may be tickled mercilessly.

http://www.electronicsforu.com/efylinux/efyhome/cover/oct2001/pctoxin1.htm

kames

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #124 on: March 01, 2006, 05:49:02 AM »
Hi everybody,

Here are my final thoughts about Steven?s device and over unity in general. If there is more, I don?t mind to change my mind, but no promises to answer all of the questions or objections -:), just don?t have time for everything and don?t like promises, especially in the field of free energy. After this post I am going to recover my old experiment that I mentioned before.

In my opinion, there are two major conditions that make the device to be self-running. The first is known to everybody and the second (which I have never mentioned)?., I hope you are not going to start throwing tomatoes at me -:).

1)It is obvious that the main condition is to have something that provides excess of power. In case of Steven? device it is a ?kick?. We can describe the effect as an effect of the earth magnetic field or we can describe it on the paper. Whatever way is easier to explain it for somebody is the best way to go. For me it was a combination of different ways, a little of nature, a little of mathematic and a little of theory. In the reference to the article that I have posted before ( http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_2/chpt_9/12.html ) the very last picture shows a change of the current that is at least at the first part (especially if you make an impulse shorter) of it can be described as a function ?k + x^2?. That is why I have said that a more correct way to describe the effect would be ?lim (di/dt)? instead of just ?di/dt?. You can also recall a very famous article ?Nothing is something?, which is not directly related but you might like to search for ??..Electrometer readings were always close to parabolic, thus indicating that the source was of infinite capacity?..?.
By the way, would Steven?s device work out of space?
2)And here is the second condition, where I probably should cover my head, just in case -:). You would be really surprised if I say that even the excess of power is not enough to make the device to be self-running. You need the device to be ABLE to transfer more energy from input to output, or you can say you need unequal behavior between input and output (do not look only at coils even if the coils are all you have). You can use my example with a simple transformer with the time splitting, or Sweet Floyd device with standard and bifilar coils, or a transformer from a standard computer switching power supply, or Steven?s device with the output frequency greater than the base input shown as a vibration and/or gyroscopic effect. Obviously, there are much more examples but it is not that simple in every case to determine what can possibly constitute it. ?Most? of the time the ability of the device to be self-running is determined by the ratio ?output/input?. But let me ask you a question, if both arguments go to infinity, what would be the result? That is where a more correct way would be to say ?lim (output/input) with load -> to infinity?. In other words, you have to determine which part is going to infinity FASTER.

That is it.

Regards.

Freedomfuel

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #125 on: March 01, 2006, 06:58:56 PM »
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hartiberlin

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #126 on: March 01, 2006, 07:37:41 PM »
What is the simplest experiment to see this 'kick' on a scope, so one can measure it ?

DRAKE

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #127 on: March 02, 2006, 02:06:52 AM »
HI All
Iv been reading alot this seems to be making me think overtime.

Charged particles, like electrons and positive ions, cannot readily move across a magnetic field line. They can move fine along the field lines. In the cosmic arena, these charged particles will take the place of the compass needle in helping us visualize magnetic field lines. The point to remember here, for later discussion, is that a charged particle?s motion is constrained by a magnetic field, but a neutral particle?s (an atom or a molecule) is not.

Liberty

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #128 on: March 03, 2006, 06:49:01 AM »
My take on the generator ring is:  The magnets on top are used to set up a magnetic field from a permanent magnet ring torid.  This field is close in strength to that of the earth, which is why the magnets are not directly attached to the ring, but are just close.  It provides a 'mask' or a beat frequency like an AM radio (but in this case a permanent magnetic field to beat with the earth's magnetic field).  The coil on the lower torid, is cut to a length that equals the beat frequency difference that is realized at the point of the coil on the lower torid. I speculate that the coil is not an open coil, but a closed coil to resonate near 5kz. (The frequency that is created by a repeating occurance of a cancelling of the magnetic field on the lower ring after the magnetic field of the top ring is beat together with the earth's magnetic field (which is delayed due to distance of travel time), the difference resulting in a harmonic (5kz) of the earth's magnetic field compared to the local permanent magnet field).

In short it creates a pulsing of a magnetic field on the lower torid which induces a voltage in the lower coil when 'tuned in' to the frequency of the beating together of these magnetic fields.

Am I getting close Mr. SM?

Liberty

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #129 on: March 03, 2006, 04:50:05 PM »
The kick implies to me that Mr. SM is introducing a frequency in the lower coil that invokes a pulse back of greater magnitude to start the system producing or oscillating.  Then the power is self sustaining?

Mannix

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #130 on: March 04, 2006, 01:59:16 AM »
Hi all,
Steven aked me to post this

Dear Lindsay,
I am perplexed that everyone thinks that GOOGLE is an accredited reference source.
It is NOT.
Google is a search engine. It is different then a reference library.
And it is very different then a SCIENCE LIBRARY.
NO accredited scientist does any serious reference work sitting at home with GOOGLE.
Google is comprised of information specifically put into in by interested parties.
No scientific information placed there by libraries.
People need to realize this before they die from lack of serious information.
Go to a library!
Sincerely,
SM

Please to not take this as anything but something to further you knowledge... Nothing that steven has revealed is wrong
he really is trying to help people understand his technology ....not DUPLICATE.

Re read this long thread ...relax  perhaps some of it will fit.

Every body want somebody else to solve their problems and work out the puzzle.

Large peices of the jigsaw ARE here ...Im sorry to sound condesending.

Lindsay Mannix

Elvis Oswald

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #131 on: March 04, 2006, 02:08:08 AM »
These may be obvious questions... but -

When and where can I buy this device?

This has been working since 1997... right?  Is Steven off the grid?

Liberty

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #132 on: March 04, 2006, 06:44:40 AM »
Perhaps Mr. SM could "bring us along" since we all do not have science libraries available?  This is turning out to be an extremely drawn out process that really does not need to take that much time to convey.  Perhaps if we pick up the speed a little?  I am concerned that we will loose our audience or put them to sleep at this pace of the chase.

rensseak

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #133 on: March 04, 2006, 03:42:11 PM »
Hallo Steve and Lindsay,

i am glad to see that you give me answer to my question.

Just a bit more from Steven

DEAR LINDSAY,

Hallo Steve Mark,

i hope that you still read here because this weekend my head was smoking an i would like to ask you something.

In one of the videos you demonstrate your device which ist connected to a measuring instrument. When you turn it top down the voltage decrease and you had no explanation for it. Now my question:  did you try your device already on the earth south site?

YES NORBERT, WE DID TRY THEM SOUTH OF THE EQUATER,   THEY WORK IN REVERSE. CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHY?

It is nice to hear, that my assumption are correct.

You look at this site (unfortunately only in German) but i hope the picture can help you to find an answer of your question and also something similar to your device. the truth question is, from where comes the magnetic force and what is it. I dont know.

http://home.arcor.de/freie.energie/grundlagen/grundlagen.htm

And also you read Viktor Schauberger, i think there you can also read something similar to your device, i'm sure.

http://www.frank.germano.com/viktorschauberger_4.htm

For me i was first thinking about the coriolis force (its mor an effect than a known force). hurricans has a left spin on north and vice-versa on south, seen from above and vice-versa seen from down.

http://www.classzone.com/books/earth_science/terc/content/visualizations/es1904/es1904page01.cfm?chapter_no=visualization

I was also thinking about the exploding TV and the wire found in the the wall. The position in the TV of this wire is NOSW at the  CR tube and also the small coils inside at your device. These small coils are enclosed of a big coil like the primary  coil of the tesla transformer. May be  the direction of winding the small coils is also important. Starting the first "kick" comes from the magnets and the kick is a result of the initial inertia of the free electrons is in the cable. About the control, sure there are condensators, but i dont know how to build it. It could be so, that the small coils successively counter clockwise be induced, so that there it a rotating magnetic field.

regards
Norbert K??ner

YES THERE IS A ROTATING FEILD WHICH CAUSES ELECTRONS TO FLOW IN COPER WIRE AND BE USED TO PROVIDE USEFULL WORK FORSE. THERE ARE MANY WIRES  PERPINDICULAR TO THE MAIN COLECTOR.  THIS IS A NECESSARY PART OF THE DEVICE.
SINCERELY,
SM.

I read all your posts again carefully and you said already that many of short wires gives more current as voltage out. Last time i open an flyback transformer and i was really surprised to see how thin the wire (as thin as a hair) of the secondary coil is. So we have to pump very fast (frequenzy) to get out high pressure (voltage) acceleration and sufficient electrons (current).  It is known that at high frequencies most of the electrons are flowing at the wires surface (for me i think not only).  So it makes sense to connect many very thin wire to a bigger one to get out a lot of electrons (more current). I'm sure you know the water drop generator of lord kelvin. Someone made this of a leader plate with one spiral and improved so the effect. It would be surely better if he had made it with plenty of thin spiral and connected to one end. (Just this moment i'm thinking is it somehow possible to biuld with this device  a resonant circuit?) Hmm!

http://www.r-s-ultraschall.com/RSUltraschall/html/proj7d.htm

So i think there are two rings in your device with such kind of spiral in opposite direction.  To feel the "kick" it is important to have plenty of thin wire twisted to one cable.

http://virtual-magnetics.de/ptdeutsch/pt.htm
http://www.neosid.de/planartr.htm

Because of less experience in electronics i'm still not sure how you manage your device and if there is really a tube somewhere hidden! ;-)

regards
Norbert

kames

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #134 on: March 05, 2006, 12:55:25 PM »
Hi everybody,

Steven asked us a question: ?YES NORBERT, WE DID TRY THEM SOUTH OF THE EQUATER,   THEY WORK IN REVERSE. CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHY??

Did anybody try to find an answer?
My curiosity is too high. There are two theories that start fitting each other beautifully. May I try to answer this question? If anybody else has an answer or explanation, or any objections, please let everybody know.
Otherwise, I will try to answer the question, no later then by the end of my day. Please don?t take my answers as the absolute truth, I might be very wrong.

Regards