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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #105 on: February 23, 2006, 07:39:41 AM »
@Kames,
In the bigger unit he could use the 2small toroidal cores to counter rotate
the magnetic flux and produce some kind of a magnetic vortex which "sucks"
in magnetic waves from the surroundings or free air electrons or what else
and produces a vortex motion inside the bigger output coil.
He probaly needs the big airgap between the 2 cores and the outercoil
to have the right vortex size...

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« Reply #105 on: February 23, 2006, 07:39:41 AM »

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« Reply #106 on: February 23, 2006, 08:41:42 AM »
Hi Stefan,

My time is 2am and my head stops working, But anyway. If you are talking about a magnetic vortex in the bigger coil, what about the smaller coils? There are no torroidal units in it. What generates the vortex in them? We have to assume that Steven is using a different approach in the smaller units or we have to say that the vortex is not the case.
Without thinking a lot I think you need at least three coils to generate a rotating vortex, two is not enough even if they are using a different frequencies and such a called ?running? phase.
I can?t find a link to the website that has a java applet where you can programmatically select a number of different source points, assign different frequencies and see the graphical interference. I will search my computer for that link (not today, it is 2.30am) but no promises.
And again, even if you are right and it is possible to generate a vortex, what about the smaller units? I can hardly believe they are using a different idea.

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« Reply #107 on: February 23, 2006, 01:52:15 PM »
Hi Lindsay,

You are absolutely right. The inner coils are the part of the control unit that help the other coils to collect. Does it mean vortex? Maybe, but not convinced. The absence of such control unit in some (not all) other torroidal power units in the videos makes me think that the idea is simpler.  When I said ?rotating? field, I actually meant standard rotating field, like in the electrical motor. I didn?t mean vortex. Stefan reminded me that it might me a vortex. Agree with Stefan. But I don?t think the idea of the vortex is used. Even if I am wrong about the vortex I fully agree that the vortex can actually multiply the ?kicks? under some conditions.

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« Reply #107 on: February 23, 2006, 01:52:15 PM »
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« Reply #108 on: February 24, 2006, 06:34:51 AM »
Before proceeding I think that everybody should check it out:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,758.0.html
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,757.0.html
Very nice.

Coming back to my simple transformer experiment.
The experiment I am going to describe is not going to give you any over unity but it will show a real anomaly. You can reproduce it if you like and measure it. It is very much reproducible.

The way I have described the balance in the system for the simple transformer in the previous post cannot be applied to everything. Any kind of system requires its own description. Only the main idea can be reused.
Probably many of you read a lot of articles when somebody was saying that an over unity has been achieved. When asked to loop the system, everything was failing apart. Do you really believe that everybody is a con man? I really like what Steven said (don?t remember exact wording) ? ?You have to be an idiot to believe that there is a hidden battery that can give so much power for such a long time?. If I see a real power output on the active load, I believe my eyes, as simple as is.
How many times have you heard that somebody was using a back EMF and achieved over unity? Probably a lot. Did somebody managed to publicly demonstrate such a system in the self-running mode? I am not aware of it.
Have a look at the next link:
http://www.opensourceenergy.com/txtlstvw.aspx?LstID=d77e8f6b-bc60-46f2-91f2-72d55f53fb46
If the link is not working, search for the ?Zoltan Szili releases 50 watt ZPE circuit for Open Source?
His device is fully based on the back EMF idea. Even all the calculations were performed using special software to simulate the circuit. The question is: who is wrong? Software or the guy that posted it? I would say that both of them are right but it won?t work. At the same time you can use real equipment and do measure the excess of power.
I have performed the same experiment (but not identical circuit) a long time ago and did measure the excess of power in the range of 160% but could never managed to loop the device. Isn?t some kind of nonsense, you have excess of power but you cannot loop/use it, which means you cannot prove anything. The thumbnails for that circuit are not good but pay a very careful attention to them. I would say pay a lot of attention to the timing. What do you see? Nothing? Go back to my previous post and read about splitting two currents in the simple transformer. Otherwise, if you can reproduce it exactly, meaning that you have to get the same timing as in that link, you will get an anomaly, guaranteed. My experiment consisted of 2 identical coils 80 watts transformer with 50 turns in each coil. The frequency was between 100 and 500 Hz. The power ratio was measured using different methods ? converting everything to DC, using oscilloscope, using digital scope and transferring the diagrams to the computer and then calculating the size of the area under each impulse. Any way I was doing it, it was around 160% excess in active power.
Here is the answer for the anomaly. The way I was measuring the power was based on the calculation of the magnetic flux produced by each coil, or in other words, number of turns multiplied by the current in the coil. The output current was exceeding the input by 160% in active power. Can you explain the situation where the output current (the size of the area under the current line, ie in average) is greater than input having two identical coils and it is not even a resonance? I want to make a point here. I know very well the difference between active and reactive power. However, when looping the device back to the battery, the discharge current was always bigger than the charge. You can call it as a mistake but I wouldn?t. The problem was that the power was measured on the transformer, between output and input ON THE TRANSFORMER. The power should have been measured on the entire system despite that there was a piece of unit in the middle of the system that WAS GIVING the excess of power. Here we are coming to the paradox in nature. There are two contradicting things that are very deep in nature and I really don?t want to go that deep. Otherwise, my writing will never end. Just try to build a picture or use it as is.

If you really like to reproduce the circuit, here is the answer how to get the anomaly. In my previous post I have said that the output coil is trying to ?help? you. In order to see it you have somehow to separate the two currents IN THE INPUT COIL. The simplest way to do it is to split in time, making one current invisible to another. The new input impulse MUST not even begin until there is at least a little power left in the output coil. In my case I was waiting until the output current (NOT VOLTAGE) was reduced by the factor of 2 x 3.14 times and only then a new input impulse was sent to the input coil again. ONLY back EMF (using a single rectifier and a big capacitor in the output) was used to power the load in order to separate in time any kind of action that could occur in the input coil and output coil at the same time.


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« Reply #109 on: February 25, 2006, 07:37:11 AM »
Hi Mannix,

Yes, I am a little off topic. This is true. I just wanted to show a real experiment based on the theory. It is still a little far from Steven. In one of my first postings I did strongly emphasize that Steven?s device (most of them) doesn?t have a magnetic core. I would even say that I didn?t want to emphasize it initially. I am more than 100% agree that Steven device doesn?t have to do anything with back EMF. I would say that I am absolutely sure about it. It was just an example of anomaly that a lot of people, I hope, would like to try in order to see something at least.
In my opinion, Steven?s device has a lot in common with splitting signals in time, but not only. But about it a little later, it is 1.30 am -:(.
I am just trying to get to the point without saying what I am not yet ready to say for a lot of different reason, including that I don?t have a device like Steven has. But I do have very unusual effects in my latest experiment. Believe me, this is not simple. I want to tell something but every time anything you are trying to explain it is touching the main idea that is not yet ready to be released in all details. I want everybody to understand it and possibly to find a better way.
My apology, I will try to keep myself much closer to Steven?s device.
I probably need two more postings to finish.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #109 on: February 25, 2006, 07:37:11 AM »
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« Reply #110 on: February 25, 2006, 01:04:52 PM »
Hi Mannix,

Yes, I am a little off topic. This is true. I just wanted to show a real experiment based on the theory. It is still a little far from Steven. In one of my first postings I did strongly emphasize that Steven?s device (most of them) doesn?t have a magnetic core. I would even say that I didn?t want to emphasize it initially. I am more than 100% agree that Steven device doesn?t have to do anything with back EMF. I would say that I am absolutely sure about it. It was just an example of anomaly that a lot of people, I hope, would like to try in order to see something at least.
In my opinion, Steven?s device has a lot in common with splitting signals in time, but not only. But about it a little later, it is 1.30 am -:(.
I am just trying to get to the point without saying what I am not yet ready to say for a lot of different reason, including that I don?t have a device like Steven has. But I do have very unusual effects in my latest experiment. Believe me, this is not simple. I want to tell something but every time anything you are trying to explain it is touching the main idea that is not yet ready to be released in all details. I want everybody to understand it and possibly to find a better way.
My apology, I will try to keep myself much closer to Steven?s device.
I probably need two more postings to finish.

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Hallo kames,

when you wrote signal splitting i remember of the flanger effect. It is used for making doubling effects or hall effects in music, particularly for e-Guitarre. Which surprised me one times was, when two person is talking via VoIP and both are using loudspeaker there will be an echo that become louder and louder. Sorry for my terrible english. I hop i get it this time. Unfortunately I do not have experience in electronics and also have no equipment to make some expiriments. So I can only guess.

regards
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« Reply #111 on: February 26, 2006, 05:52:43 AM »
Rensseak, sorry to disappoint you but I don?t think that Steven?s device works this way. The effect you experienced is based on the standing wave. Can it provide over unity? Maybe, but I have never managed to get over unity with at least a simple standing wave. The standing wave can be a VERY efficient way of transferring the energy (see Tesla) but it doesn?t provide any explanation where the excess of the energy can come from.
 
Let?s collect what I have posted:
a)   My question in my very first post.
b)   The screenshots I have attached in one of my posts
c)   The article ?Electrical Soliton Oscillator? that was posted here. I would like to stress the technical aspects described in that article.
d)   Time splitting (probably is not the most important in Steven?s device)
e)   The ?kick? is always present. Not simple to find how to use it.
f)   The compass rotates at start up and shut down times. See my previous posts and ?Electrical Soliton Oscillator?. This is very simple.
The above is just for keeping in mind, we need it if we want to explain the nature of the things.

Let?s collect some major observations from Steven?s device:
1)   No magnetic core
2)   The device vibrates at very low frequency and has (at least a big coil) a gyroscopic effect.
3)   The device generates DC current
4)   The device has AC component of relatively high frequency in the output
5)   Not every torroid has a power unit in the center. This means that there are several technical solutions and the big coil is not the simplest example to reproduce. Don?t want to speculate about vortex but I am not convinced about it.
6)   Every device makes use of a magnet (If you didn?t read ?Electrical Soliton Oscillator?, please read it.)
7)   Steven mentioned about getting the most potential from the device. We are not talking about a simple resonance. I don?t believe that there is any standard electrical resonance at all. This means we are talking about the importance of the mechanical assembly of the device, such as coil connections and even spacing between the coils. If you like, you can say that the mechanical assembly must multiply (not just generate) the ?kicks? or in other words short electrical impulses.
8)   In one of the videos Steven showed a spark when shorting the wires. I wasn?t there but based on my experience I can tell you almost for sure that such a spark can be generated only by relatively high frequency.

We need the above to do the reverse engineering, not the nicest thing to do without understanding but if you don?t have understanding, you will hardly be able to make the device self-running, even if you know all the assembly details. My main idea is to get e), 2), 3) and 4) (some of them might be artificial for now) and if it still doesn?t provide me over unity, I will start adding new stuff to the SAME type of mechanical assembly, such as looking for another natural way of ?multiplying? the ?kicks?. The mechanical assembly is more than important in Steven?s device.

Now, a little of imagination. Produce the next picture/diagram in your mind. You have a torroid, doesn?t matter yet if it has a magnetic core, and inside that torroid there is a short AND sharp positive electrical impulse rotating, let?s say, with the speed 10 Hz or 10 revolutions per second. That impulse is not present along the entire length of the torroid at the same time, it is always localized at a given point. Now it is important not to have a magnetic core. Imagine that the impulse is going through the number of smaller coils/sections connected in series. Between each coil there is space with no windings. When such an impulse goes through a single section it will produce an electromagnetic impulse also ALWAYS localize at a given point. That magnetic impulse will provide a mechanical stress on the device for different reasons, interfering with the earth magnetic field or even because the assembly is not mechanically ideal. If you hold such a torroid in your hands, would you feel a low frequency vibration? ABSOLUTELY. Would it generate some kind of gyroscopic effect? VERY possible. Why no magnetic core? Because, if the core is magnetic, to get that impulse localized at a given point is very difficult if possible at all. The magnetic core will increase the magnetic interaction among the coils, which will literally destroy the effect. This is important; going through multiple coils a sharp impulse won?t lose its sharpness too much (see ?Electrical Soliton Oscillator?).
Now imagine that there is another very standard coil on the torroid with little space between each turn. I am not sure if is the spacing between each turn is really required but it can increase the efficiency. When a localized sharp magnetic impulse is passing by every turn in another coil it will generate a sharp electrical impulse in that coil in every single turn. Doesn?t it look like multiplying? Because the magnetic impulse in the first coil is sharp enough and has only, let?s say, a positive polarity, it will generate a series of electrical impulses in the second coil in the SAME direction every time it crosses each turn in the second coil (the same direction is a little tricky but absolutely possible, you can partially associate it with the ?motional field?). Doesn?t it look like generating DC? Because the second coil is NEVER ideal and has some spacing between turns, would the output DC contain AC component? ABSOLUTELY. Because the second coil has multiple turns and a sharp magnetic impulse per one revolution in the torroid passing by every single turn in the second coil, would the output AC component have a much higher frequency than the initial 10 Hz mentioned above? ABSOLUTERLY.

Not much left to explain.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #112 on: February 26, 2006, 06:09:39 PM »
Congratulations Kames!! It?s very impressive your analysis and deductive ideas. I have some questions about your last conclusions. I?m sorry if they are more or less important but I think can help us to understand the problem.
1.- Delay line model (soliton) versus frequencies and rotate speed.
If it is used analog delay lines (we assume it, using LC series cells) there is a contradiction between pulse bandwidth, delay and resonance frequencies to allow the pulse transmission without losses (or with very low losses). I try to explain it:
Consider a 50cm long (linear long, or Pi*diameter) toroid. From the delay point of view, you need 100ms delay order or magnitude for 10Hz rotating signal (100ms total, consider then 10 cells with 10ms per cell delay, for instance). If you build LC cells with this delay (large L and C values), rise time of pulses are very long and the spectrum components are in low frequencies. In other words, it is impossible to transmit high frequencies due to impedance; it is a low-pass filter, keeping these delay times. The only way to make it is using digital delay lines, keeping high frequencies pulses (with AD/DA conversions) ?in memories? and released it at a special time points. Then, the LC network must be tuned at high resonance frequencies, as soliton works.
There is another and evidence question about it: the wavelength  must be cm order of magnitude (consider soliton model) for comparing to toroid length (5cm, for instance) that implies Ghz frequencies (this is without delays considerations). At these frequencies, L and C must have a very very little value.
So, I see an incompatibility between propagation conditions ? frequencies and desires values of pulses, rotating speed ? All can be done but I see difficulties to be done at the same time.
I include a link with an example of analog delay lines if it can help ..
http://www.eettaiwan.com/ARTICLES/2001JUN/2001JUN15_AMD_PL_AN2026.PDF

2.- DC current in output (or ?quasi? DC current).
DC current in a inductance output implies nearly to zero voltaje or ? another model for the output inductance. I mean: the output voltaje in a inductance (the output coil we study) is V=Ldi/dt (the ?usual? model). Then, quasi DC current implies di/dt nearly to zero value ? or ? there is a change in the inductance, then V=Ldi/dt + idL/dt (the ?real? model). Then, if i is a constant, V=idL/dt. This can be if L changes in the time, but how can L change in the time domain? ? Changing :
N: number of turns. It seems not possible.
Mu: permeability. It must be possible, working at saturation levels adding/not adding magnetic fields.
S: Section. It must be possible changing magnetic field space components (direction). (It is similar to Stefan explanation of rotating field), but L has not changes itself.
L: Length: It seems not possible
Then we have two possible parameters: mu and section (field space direction). With a section change, then the flux is changing too and V=-nd(flux)/dt is generated, but L doesn?t change, then it is imposible to get a V with I=constant at the same time changing only effective section of coil (that  is magnetic field space direction). Then, if there is DC currents in the output, must be changes in mu of the output coil or .. I missed anything. In this case, a core is necessary and working in a special nearly to saturation point. (That is the base of magnetic pulse amplifiers).

I want to encourage to all team (a very nice team) to continue investigating these questions, and a special mention to kames and to Stefan for this very good web.
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« Reply #113 on: February 26, 2006, 11:24:35 PM »
Hi Orionjf,

Probably Stefan deserves much more than I do. I am practically nobody in this forum. I came here and, I am sorry, I will soon disappear for a long time, after my last post where I am going to explain what the over unity requires and how it can be applied to Steven?s device.
You are almost right but not in everything. To some contradiction to your article have a look at this article:
http://people.deas.harvard.edu/~donhee/MTT_2006_Ricketts_Li_Ham.pdf
The guys are using completely different shape of impulse.

I have never said that I know exactly how to generate that 10 Hz rotating impulse. I just performed a reverse engineering to show what is required to get the same type of output single. What I have said was in my very first post question. That was based on my own experiment some time ago and I didn?t know what to do with that all. As a result I have not continued my experiment but I am going to come back. I have said that for whatever reason in my experiment the output frequency was increasing with increasing the number of turns in the output coil. That happened when I was experimenting with standing wave using short impulses. I have tried to be very careful in wording and explanation to avoid as much as possible different confusions. I have tried to avoid complicated technical aspects in order to avoid writing a long book here.
If you look at one of the attachments in one of my previous post here, you will see a screenshot from two Steven?s coils. One of the screenshots with ABSOLUTELY no doubts shows multiple coils connected in series. Even if I don?t know what it is and how it works but I can safely assume it is important.

What I am going to say now is very speculative (I HAVEN?T tested everything) and I really want to avoid too many questions. I just don?t have that much time to find answer for everything, especially I don?t have all the answers right away.

Now closer to your question. In the article above, a quote from it: ??In addition to maintaining their shape, solitons on the NLTL possess other important properties [3]?[5]. To begin with,
a taller soliton travels faster than a shorter one on the NLTL. Due to this amplitude-dependent speed, as shown in Fig. 2(a), a taller soliton originally placed behind a shorter one catches up with the shorter one and moves ahead of it after a collision. During the collision ??the two solitons do not linearly superpose ??and as a result experience a significant amount of amplitude modulation. After the collision [bottom of Fig. 2(a)], the two solitons return to their original shapes, however, they have acquired a permanent time (phase) shift due to the nonlinear collision ??.?

Just follow me very carefully. Showing above just imagine that one soliton catches up with another always in the same coil among all those sections of coils. Wouldn?t be a ?kind? of standing wave resonance? Yes, but it won?t be rotating yet, however, the impulse width would increase (Fig 2a in the above article), but not useful yet, still too short. Let?s say we send those short impulses into our coils artificially, one after another. Now imagine that we put a little of distortion into it and all the solitons do meet in the same coil but not exactly at the same spot, just a little one behind another. The overall width of the impulse increases dramatically (if not progressively, see Fig 2a in the above article) and becomes much more useful when using standard coils. Such a little shift constitutes a very low speed rotating field or you can look at it as such a called ?running? phase. That is how those 10 Hz can be generated.


Again, I am not 100% sure. The only thing I have tested is increasing the output frequency while increasing the number of turns in the output coil. The rest is just a reverse engineering.

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« Reply #114 on: February 27, 2006, 01:15:26 AM »
Hi Orionjf,

Just realized that I missed your second questions. You are saying that ??Then, quasi DC current implies di/dt nearly to zero value ? or ? there?.?. This not true. The di/dt is not zero even with very short and sharp impulses (you can add here Steven?s ?kicks? or you can add here that at the time equal to zero the current of the impulse is much higher because the magnetic flux is always a little behind). Without going into all the details take any high frequency transformer and send, for simplicity, very short square impulses of the same polarity into it. Make sure that when there is no input impulse the input coil is not ?in the air? but shorten by the generator output circuit. The output signal will have impulses of the same polarity, meaning that there are DC and AC components at the same time. If the high frequency transformer can practically replicate short input impulses, it means there is a corresponding magnetic flux change even (and probably important) if the magnetic flux is a always behind a the beginning of the impulse if the previous magnetic flux had enough to time to ?go away?. If there is a corresponding magnetic flux change what prevents it from generating the same impulses by ?cutting? single turns in the output coil if the flux is ?rotating?? When I say high frequency I don?t mean really high frequency. The above is used in a lot of electronic circuits and can be easily reproduced at frequencies as low as 20 kHz represented by short impulses.

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« Reply #115 on: February 27, 2006, 04:41:57 AM »
Dear Kames,
Your answer to question 1 could be right. Only by two different propagation speeds can be explained this phenomenon: something like a group or phase speed and a ?carrier? speed, using a modulated signal reference. In that case it will be very difficult to tune it, I think.
With regard to question 2, I am not sure. Peaks of current means very large peaks in voltage (remember V depends on di/dt). An inductance ?avoid? peaks of current exactly making peaks of voltage. I don?t say that current peaks can?t be done but if done, then the output is a very high and sharp pulse. If current function is a ?ramp?, voltaje will be a constant (DC) but not viceversa, that is all DC components of current don?t create any output voltage. Only with sin or cos function, v and i follow the ?same? shape because derivative or integral function are the same (with phase corrections). In all other cases, I think only an integration (by capacitors, for instance) can provides DC components.
I agree with you that we need to do a complete reverse engineering.
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« Reply #116 on: February 27, 2006, 05:05:57 AM »
A little of mathematics:
The mentioned di/dt will never results to zero. The more correct mathematical expression would be lim (di/dt) with time -> zero. When a short impulse enters a coil with no magnetic flux left in it, the di will be a much higher number than dt and can be represented by a function like ?k + x^2?. As a result the function lim (di/dt) with time -> zero will result to infinity because the dt is always linear.

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« Reply #117 on: February 27, 2006, 05:40:29 AM »
Hi Orionjf,

Just posted a message but didn't see your reply, That is why I didn't mention your name at the top. My appology.

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« Reply #118 on: February 27, 2006, 12:49:00 PM »
Hallo Steve Mark,

i hope that you still read here because this weekend my head was smoking an i would like to ask you something.

In one of the videos you demonstrate your device which ist connected to a measuring instrument. When you turn it top down the voltage decrease and you had no explanation for it. Now my question:  did you try your device already on the earth south site?

I was also thinking about the exploding TV and the wire found in the the wall. The position in the TV of this wire is NOSW at the  CR tube and also the small coils inside at your device. These small coils are enclosed of a big coil like the primary  coil of the tesla transformer. May be  the direction of winding the small coils is also important. Starting the first "kick" comes from the magnets and the kick is a result of the initial inertia of the free electrons is in the cable. About the control, sure there are condensators, but i dont know how to build it. It could be so, that the small coils successively counter clockwise be induced, so that there it a rotating magnetic field.

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Re: The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"
« Reply #119 on: February 27, 2006, 03:52:14 PM »
It doesn?t let me sleep quietly the thing that is causing so much confusion. When we are talking about DC and AC components at the same time we are talking about a possibility to convert ?quasi? DC to real DC automatically assuming that a capacitor is required.
I am not working any more as an electronic engineer (but still working in IT, I am not that old  -:)), but if anybody here is, correct me if I am wrong. At the time I was working nobody was saying ?quasi? DC, even it is absolutely correct and even a better term. Everybody was saying DC IMPULSES automatically assuming that you can get a real DC component from it if using a capacitor, for example. As simple as is if not stupid. When people were talking about DC and AC components at the same time it was just a spoken language and nothing else. That is how it seats in my brain and I guess probably for other people as well.

However, for Steven?s device:
1)If vortex is involved, it can generate a real DC component
2)If a moving/rotating magnetic impulse can partially looked at as a ?motional field?, it can also generate a real DC component

Sorry for the confusion about DC and AC.

Regards.

 

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