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jonnydavro

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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #225 on: June 25, 2009, 02:58:49 AM »
@Gadget.Hi Al.You are definatly in the groove with this one.The lowest i can sustain rotation with a snake egg is 1.34v at 4mA and that was on a watch battery so you have worked some magic on this as 1mA  is amazing and i can only think it is down to your coil as it is radically different as Xenomorph mentioned to what we are using.
I can run the cylinder magnets on less than 4mA so they are more economical on my setup than the snake egg so if this is the same for you it may go under 1mA.
I was wondering if you have any snake eggs which stand completly upright as i found that the vertical spinners were more efficient than the "X" spinner so you may find further savings there.
I like what you are doing with this Al and if you can use some of your JT tricks to optimise the circuit,it would be great.Many thanks jonny.
@Synchro.Hi.Glad you made it over here.It must be frustrating for you to be such a big part of this project but not have access to you workshop.
Your questions and idea's are most welcome and we can't wait to see your first spinner.Regards jonny

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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #226 on: June 25, 2009, 03:49:57 AM »
@Gadget.Hi Al.You are definatly in the groove with this one.The lowest i can sustain rotation with a snake egg is 1.34v at 4mA and that was on a watch battery so you have worked some magic on this as 1mA  is amazing and i can only think it is down to your coil as it is radically different as Xenomorph mentioned to what we are using.
I can run the cylinder magnets on less than 4mA so they are more economical on my setup than the snake egg so if this is the same for you it may go under 1mA.
I was wondering if you have any snake eggs which stand completly upright as i found that the vertical spinners were more efficient than the "X" spinner so you may find further savings there.
I like what you are doing with this Al and if you can use some of your JT tricks to optimise the circuit,it would be great.Many thanks jonny.
@Synchro.Hi.Glad you made it over here.It must be frustrating for you to be such a big part of this project but not have access to you workshop.
Your questions and idea's are most welcome and we can't wait to see your first spinner.Regards jonny
I have three sets coming from harbor freight . not yet . one of the two i have will not even wobble . that was the first one i was messing with and all most gave up and just happened to change magnets and get the right resistance . After i did i put the second pot back on and then hooked My amp meter up . I Think the best way to measure current is with a one ohm resistor in series with your battery then you can measure the circuit without putting your meter in series and just across the resistor . the first measurement i did was in series . Its the same .
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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #227 on: June 25, 2009, 10:25:06 AM »
@Gadgetmall.Hi Al.I have found also that no two snake eggs are the same.I have some which refuse to spin on low volts also so it really is a lottery with these.With your three sets you may get a vertical spinner but if you don't,let me know and i will send you some.Regards jonny
P.S If you get the chance Al,pop over to the energetic forum as there is also a thread on this motor over there and i am sure everyone there will be interested in your experiments.Many thanks Jonny

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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #228 on: June 25, 2009, 10:54:05 PM »
@all . i know you all will not believe this but i have got that unit to selfchagre and run feeding back the secondary to the primary and the primary is climbing .I kid you not . This  is the third self running bedini it looks like . Ok i ditched th e2.6 volts this morning and hooked up the 6 volt sla battery as the primary and 2.6 volt as the secondary . the 6 volt was a bad battery and read 5.99 volts . I decided to try My feedback method that works on My other 48 volt fan bedini . the only modification i did was remove the secondary batter install an sk3606 in series with one secondary wire the one that comes from the positive off the secondary cap and anode of the diode and fed it thru the sk3606 to positive where the run connection is . now the primary battery is reading 6.52 and climbing as it is running the egg. WOW . i'lll let you know more later after  9 est as i have to take my daughter to bible school .I had to do a wuick test before i go . i stopped the magnet and the volts are reading 5.38 just as soon as i start the magnet it jumps to over 6.65 and then settled to 6.52 -6.53 Amazing stuff.
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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #229 on: June 25, 2009, 11:43:46 PM »
@all . i know you all will not believe this but i have got that unit to selfchagre and run feeding back the secondary to the primary and the primary is climbing .I kid you not . This  is the third self running bedini it looks like . Ok i ditched th e2.6 volts this morning and hooked up the 6 volt sla battery as the primary and 2.6 volt as the secondary . the 6 volt was a bad battery and read 5.99 volts . I decided to try My feedback method that works on My other 48 volt fan bedini . the only modification i did was remove the secondary batter install an sk3606 in series with one secondary wire the one that comes from the positive off the secondary cap and anode of the diode and fed it thru the sk3606 to positive where the run connection is . now the primary battery is reading 6.52 and climbing as it is running the egg. WOW . i'lll let you know more later after  9 est as i have to take my daughter to bible school .I had to do a wuick test before i go . i stopped the magnet and the volts are reading 5.38 just as soon as i start the magnet it jumps to over 5 .65 and then settled to 6. 52 -53 Amazing stuff.
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Congratulations @gadget!

My self charger quit on me by burning the diodes the first time and by burning the coil this time.
I have to check which connection wire is at fault (the base or the collector wire) by unwinding the bar ferrite coil and when I find out the guilty wire it will be rewired three times the original amount of turns.

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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #230 on: June 26, 2009, 01:11:27 AM »
@all heres a video showing this replication with the addition and showing you what i mean . Its not a trick and i'm not showing you anything tricky as i never do . It does what it does all day today .It now up a few more volts .
@Jesus . thank you . you can make this one  . i am sure .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIrOYOXLuvQ
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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #231 on: June 26, 2009, 01:18:27 AM »
You're reporting the starting voltage of the 6 volt battery at 5.99, and the voltage at the end of the run at 5.38. Perhaps there's nothing significant going on.

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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #232 on: June 26, 2009, 01:26:24 AM »
You're reporting the starting voltage of the 6 volt battery at 5.99, and the voltage at the end of the run at 5.38. Perhaps there's nothing significant going on.
Mistake  end volts 6.52 today . check my video and you will see what i'm talking about . i was in a rush earler > it might be empty voltage but i dont care cause it run on empty voltage  :) Its charging the primary either way
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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #233 on: June 26, 2009, 01:38:27 AM »
I just looked at your video. I got a Bedini to run and charge like that, so I'm already a big believer. Perhaps it's time to pop the corks after all. Congratulations for going over the top again!

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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #234 on: June 26, 2009, 01:59:26 AM »
This was a dead Sla three days ago .this is the one iwas using as a secondary and trying to recondition as it would not charge up over 3 volts with a NOrmal Charger . After 3 days this battery settled this morning (6am) at 5.99 steady so ooo. after all day long selfcharging it got HIGHER AND HIGHER and still ran . I'll give it a few more days before i pop the cork . I want to capture the relay coil power and charge another battery OR run a JT Led circuit . Damn I just cant quit :)

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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #235 on: June 26, 2009, 02:04:15 AM »
@gadget

Nice video ! keep the good work, tell me witch mk would you like 1,2,3,8,hv ...

Also do you have any idea on how to make relay triggered jt at 6 or 12 volts ?

Mark

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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #236 on: June 26, 2009, 04:21:21 AM »
@all heres a video showing this replication with the addition and showing you what i mean . Its not a trick and i'm not showing you anything tricky as i never do . It does what it does all day today .It now up a few more volts .
@Jesus . thank you . you can make this one  . i am sure .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIrOYOXLuvQ
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To make a replication of your excellent work I will need a detailed schematic.
Are you going to share with the public that information?

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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #237 on: June 26, 2009, 04:48:08 AM »
@gadget

Nice video ! keep the good work, tell me witch mk would you like 1,2,3,8,hv ...

Also do you have any idea on how to make relay triggered jt at 6 or 12 volts ?

Mark
Hi Mk1 . thanks for dropping in and checking out that thing i did . Yes the one we talked about 800 HV ,, and yea you buzz the relay and interrupt the primary .Right ..I know how . You know i am or want to deal strictly with 1 volt stuff . this bedini is nice but not tuned to my liking However if it runs all week long on My dead sla i will have to let it ride !!!!
@jonny i am going to mod you schematic components to match mine if you don't mind . ok ? Really the only difference is the two caps on the secondary output . i took one wire from the positive connection there and ran it thru My monster sk3606 rectifier/diode to the positive terminiam . the other secondary wire (neg)is not needed ,,

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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #238 on: June 26, 2009, 04:56:01 AM »
Hi Mk1 . thanks for dropping in and checking out that thing i did . Yes the one we talked about 800 HV ,, and yea you buzz the relay and interrupt the primary .Right ..I know how . You know i am or want to deal strictly with 1 volt stuff . this bedini is nice but not tuned to my liking However if it runs all week long on My dead sla i will have to let it ride !!!!
@jonny i am going to mod you schematic components to match mine if you don't mind . ok ? Really the only difference is the two caps on the secondary output . i took one wire from the positive connection there and ran it thru My monster sk3606 rectifier/diode to the positive terminiam . the other secondary wire (neg)is not needed ,,

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Do not worry i will use a 6 volt relay jt at 60hz powered by a 1.5 volt jt at 40mhz

You get the picture ?

Mark

i will need to buy some wire to fill that order , i will asap.

But think about relay thing !


 

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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #239 on: June 26, 2009, 05:23:30 AM »
One more think . you have to remember that this voltage i am feeding back is not true STATIC VOLTAGE ANYMORE because i run it thru caps which make that BEMF voltage have Current . So caps do store AMPS before it hits the run battery . they are getting some push !!remember this battery was 3 volts trashcan material 6 or 7 days ago . i just decided to run it for the davro seup cause it was handy and had wires on it:) it did charge up to 5.99 steady . we will see . tomorrow is the cap test ,that is ULTRA CAP test /
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