GDPR and DSGVO law

Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding.
Amazon Warehouse Deals ! Now even more Deep Discounts ! Check out these great prices on slightly used or just opened once only items.I always buy my gadgets via these great Warehouse deals ! Highly recommended ! Many thanks for supporting OverUnity.com this way.

User Menu

Plug Heater

Powerbox

Smartbox

3D Solar

3D Solar Panels

DC2DC converter

Micro JouleThief

FireMatch

FireMatch

CCKnife

CCKnife

CCTool

CCTool

Magpi Magazine

Magpi Magazine Free Rasberry Pi Magazine

Battery Recondition

Battery Recondition

Arduino

Ultracaps

YT Subscribe

Gravity Machines

Tesla-Ebook

Magnet Secrets

Lindemann Video

Navigation

Products

Products

WaterMotor kit

Statistics

  • *Total Members: 83019
  • *Latest: Zeg01

  • *Total Posts: 502865
  • *Total Topics: 15031
  • *Online Today: 44
  • *Most Online: 103
(December 19, 2006, 11:27:19 PM)
  • *Users: 9
  • *Guests: 20
  • *Total: 29

Author Topic: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor  (Read 152207 times)

Offline Pirate88179

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 8364
Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #75 on: May 01, 2009, 04:24:42 PM »
@ Wilby:

Thanks.  I have several places I found online but I was looking for a local supplier so I could "hand-pick" some of these.  This device is so cool.  I can't wait to see your replication.

@ Jonny:

My neo spheres arrived yesterday.  I did a few quick tests and, even the 1/4" spheres spin too fast!  (I got .750, 5/8" and 1/4" dia.)  Even with all of the resistance off, it stays in the center and really winds up and then........look out!  I had one fly off and hit my fridge across the room and it put a small dent in the door!  It was like a bullit.   For the small spheres, I may have to lower my base resistor value from 100 to something lower.

Great video!  I can't believe it runs on som low a mA number.  Great job.

Bill

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #75 on: May 01, 2009, 04:24:42 PM »

Offline gyulasun

  • without_ads
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3822
Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #76 on: May 01, 2009, 08:48:06 PM »
....
  For the small spheres, I may have to lower my base resistor value from 100 to something lower.
....

Hi Bill,

I think just the other direction:  you would have to increase your base resistor to reduce the collector current so that the sphere magnet should rotate with less speed, hence they would not launch... 

Or you mean the small spheres need more collector current to spin faster?   I miss something?

Thanks, Gyula

Offline Pirate88179

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 8364
Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #77 on: May 02, 2009, 12:20:55 AM »
Gyula:

I may have that backwards.  I will have to put my meter on the pots to check it.  I know I have these pots wired backwards from my Bedini so I may be confused.  Thanks.

Bill

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #77 on: May 02, 2009, 12:20:55 AM »
Sponsored links:




Offline Pirate88179

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 8364
Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #78 on: May 03, 2009, 09:21:04 AM »
Here is my latest video on this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RsFMyZbj1I

I am using smaller, bench tested magnets supplied to me from a good friend from overseas.  These spin really well.  The fun begins.....


Bill

Offline WilbyInebriated

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3143
Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #79 on: May 03, 2009, 06:25:56 PM »
took a break from winding a new tesla secondary and tossed together a quick testbed to see what 'type' of spinners i had. it looks like i got lucky, i have one that runs close to perfect vertical, and one x wobbler. i used a really small coil, no adjustment pot, and ran it at 9v input. it spins, but nowhere near the revs you guys are getting. will post a pic after i pretty it up a bit.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #79 on: May 03, 2009, 06:25:56 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline Pirate88179

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 8364
Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #80 on: May 04, 2009, 06:02:32 AM »
Wilby:

Glad to see you are replicating this.  This is one of the coolest things to have running right in front of you.  As I found out, the magnets make a huge difference in running attitude...lucky for you have have one that goes vertical in a steady way.  If not for Jonny, I would be stuck with my X wobble.  I did a pretty nice job tonight on mounting a computer fan (turbine) onto one of the eggs.  It was well centered and well balanced but....there is a metal ring on the ID of those fans, (after you remove the magnet) and I decided to leave it as I might have damaged the fan by removing it.  Well, big mistake.  I got everything else ok but the metal messes with the field and it spins, but does not even go near the center and when it does....it flops over.  I tried every setting I have but it has to be that metal in the core.  I will try removing it for next time.

There are so many things we can do with these.  I am taking Jonny's suggestion and after modding my circuit like his, I will try to run it on the earth battery....which is now up to 12 mA's as of just a little while ago. (@1.96 volts)

I hate it when an experiment does not work as planned but, that's the way it goes.

Bill

Offline WilbyInebriated

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3143
Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #81 on: May 04, 2009, 05:10:30 PM »
thanks pirate. yeah it was pretty sweet to see it spin right away. i used one of those 'perpetual motion' toys. has a little kicker coil in the base, no adjustments. now i need to do a proper build. your fan sounds interesting. you might discover a 'new' kind of magnet 'lift' with that  ;)

@ all
do you guys think a u shaped core, with enough separation between the two poles, would spin two magnets?

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #81 on: May 04, 2009, 05:10:30 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline xenomorphlabs

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 923
Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #82 on: May 05, 2009, 07:21:08 PM »
@WilbyInebriated:

The 2nd magnet would have to be brought in at the exact speed and phase of the first magnet onto the 2nd core-end
or it would interfere the first magnet's push from the transistor.
I guess that is close to impossible.
Even if you would manage somehow to do that, the amp-draw would simply double, no real benefit in using two magnets hypothetically.
To understand that, i recommend watching this MIT professor explain how this magnet motor works:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGaSeSP0tCM&feature=player_embedded

The magnet and the transistor work together in sync.





Offline brownsville

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 21
Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #83 on: May 06, 2009, 01:15:42 AM »
I had to play a little last Sunday. I wound a 26 guage coil around the plastic jar to check on electric generation. The coil was only about 60 feet of wire - did not count the winds. The coil produced a small voltage when surrounding the magnet and also when held outside of the magnet at a 90 degree position. The interesting part was the jump it took when held at about a 15 degree angle as you can see in the video.

Perhaps Xenomorph or someone else could see if holding the coils similarly to the vid increases the volts. Mine went from .2 to almost 4 volts AC.

Here is the link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqO9WNnb0Gc

Brownsville

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #83 on: May 06, 2009, 01:15:42 AM »
3D Solar Panels

Offline Pirate88179

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 8364
Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #84 on: May 06, 2009, 01:59:24 AM »
@ brownsville:

Great vid man.  I don't know why this could be.  I too will try this.  I have tried a roll of 30 ga. mag wire and could not get much at all out of it.  I will post my results.  Great job.

Bill

Offline xenomorphlabs

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 923
Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #85 on: May 06, 2009, 03:19:20 AM »
As Gyula has pointed out earlier in this thread by providing helpful links, the pickup-coils need to have a very high turn count, very thin wire, a comparatively big area  and a small coil length to maximize their output.
Just a few turns wont give you a significant output unfortunately.

I have just experimentally concluded that even 2000 turns is not enough ! (depending on what you wanna do of course)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVCKIWey420

I want to remind people again that Lenz law is in effect when inducing currents in pickup coils and powering something with that current.


Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #85 on: May 06, 2009, 03:19:20 AM »
3D Solar Panels

Offline Goat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 619
Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #86 on: May 08, 2009, 12:15:13 AM »
@All

Saw this video today which is somewhat relevant as its a no bearing one magnet:

"Fast Motor 150.000RPM no rotor neodimio magnet"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1WkxHr0G6o&feature=related

This thing really spins fast using a round neo inside the coil  :o

Regards,
Paul

Offline Pirate88179

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 8364
Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #87 on: May 08, 2009, 01:32:04 AM »
Goat:

Yes, I saw that.  That thing is really spinning!  That video is the reason I purchased my 5 different sized neo spheres but, I can't control them once they really start speeding up.  They fly across the room like a bullet.  I think he mentioned he is using 2 coils.  I can't figure out what he meant by that.  Also, I noticed he didn't have to spin it up by hand like we do with our set-ups.  Maybe his second coil helps with that?

Bill

Offline Goat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 619
Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #88 on: May 08, 2009, 02:00:37 AM »
Goat:

Yes, I saw that.  That thing is really spinning!  That video is the reason I purchased my 5 different sized neo spheres but, I can't control them once they really start speeding up.  They fly across the room like a bullet.  I think he mentioned he is using 2 coils.  I can't figure out what he meant by that.  Also, I noticed he didn't have to spin it up by hand like we do with our set-ups.  Maybe his second coil helps with that?

Bill

Pirate, I've looked at the video several times now and it's very hard to make out because he mentions having two coils (in what configuration we don't know) and also mentions "Similar Bedini" circuit at the end of the video as well as the information section.

The English translation seems a little different than the spanish one....

"150,000 Rpm Motor fast without a rotor made of Neodymium magnet ball 2 reels of 8 mm (as a trigger and as a promoter) and a Bedini circuit similar."

PS: I don't see why one couldn't add a clear plexi at both ends of the air core to prevent the ball from coming out and flying across the room  :o

Regards,
Paul


Offline Pirate88179

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 8364
Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #89 on: May 08, 2009, 03:31:21 AM »
@ Goat:

Your idea would work with his set-up but on mine, it is just spinning on a flat plate.  Before I glue my plate on, I tried his way inside the coil and it would not spin.  Even with me hand starting it. He must have done something different, I don't know.  I love the sound though.

Bill

 

OneLink