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Author Topic: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor  (Read 177420 times)

Offline gadgetmall

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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #255 on: June 28, 2009, 09:03:38 PM »
@Gadgetmall and Jesus:
Please forgive me to be so finical about it but i am still not sure about the cap polarity because of gadgetmall`s comment:

The original charge battery had its negative pole on the right and was connected to the positive of the source battery. Would it then not be logical to replace the battery with capacitors that have their pole orientation just like that battery?

Does that mean that you connected the diode that goes to the battery inbetween the 2 capacitors?

I have attached 4 variants that i actually see now.


Please Gadgetmall could you make a voltage measurement across your caps?
I am quite certain that the charging effect is mostly due to the pulsed DC component, because i have measured 0.6 Volts on my caps.
That is not enough to (hot)charge the battery with current, so it has to be something else.
Well the schematic i posted is correct and so is you number varant 1 .> i mus be going nuts because i thought the one jesus fixed did not have abattery on it ,now it does .
you are correct . i replaced the battery with the caps on the secondary , same polarity as the battery . anode positive and negitive connected directly to the positive on the run battery . Sheesss.. :) Still Ruunig but i adjusted it last night nad the volts are now showing 5.33 . I mess somthing up on the adjustment . Also not that the 10k pot is a CARBON audio pot on th eother side of the relay coil . thats all for now . i 'll try to get more time to study this running from ultra caps next week . i did try the 2.6 volts and got the same effect the volts went up  to 3.03 on that good battery .. On the diode i cannot replacate my replication with any other diode i have . sorry ..

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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #255 on: June 28, 2009, 09:03:38 PM »

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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #256 on: June 28, 2009, 10:18:54 PM »
@Gadgetmall: Thanks for taking the time to verify this.
Okay i have tried Variant 1 already and the source voltage dropped.
So it really must be a material attribute of the diode that makes your results possible.
Would be really interesting to give one to a lab to analyze it for something unusual hehe.
I can only find these diodes online in distributor-websites that seem to require you to be
an electronics dealer sending them target prices and requesting quotes or insane minimal ordering quantities or would not ship internationally to europe.

EDIT:
I just made a voltage measurement across the diode connecting to the battery and it reads 0.55 Volt.
So theoretically the diode would not be letting significant amounts of current through (<0.6 Volt).
How could i increase that voltage?
The the other hand i have tried it with germanium 1N60 diodes and it did also not work.

« Last Edit: June 28, 2009, 11:10:39 PM by xenomorphlabs »

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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #257 on: June 28, 2009, 11:08:00 PM »
@Gadgetmall: Thanks for taking the time to verify this.
Okay i have tried Variant 1 already and the source voltage dropped.
So it really must be a material attribute of the diode that makes your results possible.
Would be really interesting to give one to a lab to analyze it for something unusual hehe.
I can only find these diodes online in distributor-websites that seem to require you to be
an electronics dealer sending them target prices and requesting quotes or insane minimal ordering quantities or would not ship internationally to europe.

EDIT:
I just made a voltage measurement across the diode connecting to the battery and it reads 0.55 Volt.
So theoretically the diode would not be letting any current through (<0.6 Volt).
How could i increase that voltage?
If i had a Spare i would let you get it . I come up with some rare stuff at that Milatary junk yard. I even got radioactive magnitite for the core material . theres like 10  55 gallon drums of the stuff . i got a little bucket full but have not tried to fill acore with it yet . scarry . I think the reason this one is doing this is MAINLY the Coil and the position of the trigger . Get them to run off 1 to 2 milliamps and then you wont have to generate much BEMF to power it or replenish it . I think . You asked me to check the volts across the caps . its0.98 and i am measuring the battery showing the results in the video . Fausto tried a different diode before he got some from me and was getting some feedback . you might ask him . He is great . He replicated My 48volt fan to the tee . Had it working great and bumped it and knocked it out of kilter .He proved i am am telling the truth and that all that matters . . I love my self runners . Its like an Alien Powersupply and once you get one running you will get Chills and a weird Feeling cause its cool and scarry  and then you realize that the government has this technology and we could have been powering for free all these years but the Oil biz would supposedly shatter the economy . BS .

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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #257 on: June 28, 2009, 11:08:00 PM »
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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #258 on: June 29, 2009, 01:02:14 AM »
I tried to hook a power supply from an Epson printer to the output from the one magnet (5/8 neo inside aircore) and it worked for a while. It actually started generating dc power and I watched the voltage climb on the caps to just over 16 volts when I shorted it out. :-[ The wild thing is that in trying to do it again I took a reading from the input side and got a steady 123 vac coming from the coil while it was in resonance - I stopped the magnet from spinning and the coil started singing - I did a video of the process and show the voltage climbing until it gets to about 95 volts ac and then stop the magnet - in the vid you can hear the coil singing and the volts shoot right up to 123 volts and stays there. ???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfMqea8NC6U

After watching the vid I may be wrong in thinking that I had fried something, I am going to try it again to see if I just wasn't waiting long enough for the ac power to get up to the 123v to start charging the rest of the circuit.

The whole idea is probably stupid and if anyone knows this won't work I won't waste any more time on this...there are some really nice parts in this power supply that I can try in other adaptations. I was trying to get the dc and run it back to the source battery like Gadgetmall for a self runner and perhaps charger as well.

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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #259 on: June 29, 2009, 01:22:13 AM »
Having trouble with the vid download and m youtube account....will post link as soon as it shows up.  >:(

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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #259 on: June 29, 2009, 01:22:13 AM »
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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #260 on: June 29, 2009, 01:24:33 AM »
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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #261 on: June 29, 2009, 03:22:36 AM »
If i had a Spare i would let you get it . I come up with some rare stuff at that Milatary junk yard. I even got radioactive magnitite for the core material . theres like 10  55 gallon drums of the stuff . i got a little bucket full but have not tried to fill acore with it yet . scarry . I think the reason this one is doing this is MAINLY the Coil and the position of the trigger . Get them to run off 1 to 2 milliamps and then you wont have to generate much BEMF to power it or replenish it . I think . You asked me to check the volts across the caps . its0.98 and i am measuring the battery showing the results in the video . Fausto tried a different diode before he got some from me and was getting some feedback . you might ask him . He is great . He replicated My 48volt fan to the tee . Had it working great and bumped it and knocked it out of kilter .He proved i am am telling the truth and that all that matters . . I love my self runners . Its like an Alien Powersupply and once you get one running you will get Chills and a weird Feeling cause its cool and scarry  and then you realize that the government has this technology and we could have been powering for free all these years but the Oil biz would supposedly shatter the economy . BS .

Gadget .

@Gadgetmall:
I will just try out a couple of old diodes (vintage soviet stuff and so on) just like you had the creativity to try out old military stuff.
Like really slow ones ,really fast ones and maybe notice a difference.
I will also not give up to find Sk3606s online.

Another difference between our setups is that i am using 4 NimH batteries in series and you use a lead-acid battery. NimH were reported if i am not mistaken to not accept radiant that well, however i can one wire charge them (as a 2nd charge battery).

How did you condition the battery that you said was unusable before?
Maybe i can make my batteries more "willing" to accept the radiant that way hehe.

Thanks for the voltage measurement across the caps.
Your voltage is higher, probably due to the difference that you actually use a pickup coil as the secondary. I have guesstimated that you might have around 4700 turns of wire on that coil where mine only has 800 turns. That increases also the radiant spikes.
I will make a new coil this week with more secondary turns.

Regards,
Xenomorph

« Last Edit: June 29, 2009, 04:13:34 AM by xenomorphlabs »

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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #262 on: June 29, 2009, 04:56:11 AM »
@Gadgetmall:
I will just try out a couple of old diodes (vintage soviet stuff and so on) just like you had the creativity to try out old military stuff.
Like really slow ones ,really fast ones and maybe notice a difference.
I will also not give up to find Sk3606s online.

Another difference between our setups is that i am using 4 NimH batteries in series and you use a lead-acid battery. NimH were reported if i am not mistaken to not accept radiant that well, however i can one wire charge them (as a 2nd charge battery).

 I also recharge Ni mh and nicad and non rechargable alklines with my bedinies . it works .thats all i care about not the science of it just the usability of it . The recharge/selfrun is working on My 2.6 volt pack also . start volts 2.55 and just as soon as i spin it up 3.03 steady .

[How did you condition the battery that you said was unusable before?

I used this setup to bring it up from 3 volts to where is is now . Using a 2.6volt nimh battery as the primary and the dead 6 volt as the secondary for about three days .
Maybe i can make my batteries more "willing" to accept the radiant that way hehe.

Thanks for the voltage measurement across the caps.
Your voltage is higher, probably due to the difference that you actually use a pickup coil as the secondary. I have guesstimated that you might have around 4700 turns of wire on that coil where mine only has 800 turns. That increases also the radiant spikes.
I will make a new coil this week with more secondary turns.

Regards,
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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #263 on: June 30, 2009, 04:35:21 AM »
here is the video link for the Lidmotor coil in self oscillation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfMqea8NC6U

I did try to get the printer power supply thing working but only had a reading of .2 volt dc. The first few time I tried this the thing was putting out up to 14 volts and the mm was still climbing. I did plug it into a regular 110v outlet in the house and the voltage climbed right to 36.4 vdc - so I did not fry anything (yet) ;D
The voltage reading on the video is on the input side of the power supply and is coming directly from the secondary of the Lidmotor coil.
The printer power supply takes 110 ac and converts to to dc - why did this work a few times and now doesn't???? ::)
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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #263 on: June 30, 2009, 04:35:21 AM »
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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #264 on: June 30, 2009, 05:36:44 AM »
Brownsville:

It says your video is private.

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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #265 on: June 30, 2009, 02:58:57 PM »
Sorry Bill, I will try to fix that this morning - as usual OPERATOR ERROR -

I had to try again this morning while I was having coffee. In looking at the set up I realized that I did not have the (-) wire from the pickup coil hooked to the printer power supply but was still attached to the circuit board. I changed this and my multimeter showed a reading of 13.9 to 16.4 volt dc on the back side of the power supply unit. I also played with the angle of the coil related to the magnet and if I got the angle just right it raised the dc voltage. Again it was a 15 to 20 degree angle that produced the right voltage to charge the caps in the power supply unit. I could hear the frequency change as the angle changes.

I am going to try a three year dead battery that has been sitting outside on a barrel to see if it can - start the coil / magnet and get it to self oscillate and then try hooking the positive from the power supply unit to the battery to see if it will charge it up.

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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #266 on: June 30, 2009, 03:31:37 PM »
Here is a new link to the video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpX32rM5Zy8 - I deleted the higher quality vid and this one it is really hard to see the multimeter reading - OPERATOR ERROR AGAIN.

The vid only shows the input side to the power supply. I will try to make a new vid of the dc output once I get it figured out.

Brownsville

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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #267 on: June 30, 2009, 04:21:02 PM »
@Brownsville:
What is the amp-draw while it is resonating?
And why are you letting it resonate? Are you specifically and intentionally researching the resonance effect?
Usually circuits in resonance draw a lot of current and might not be a perfect
pre-condition for feeding back.


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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #268 on: July 03, 2009, 01:54:59 PM »
Hi.I have been thinking about the dead spot on the coils and i thought that the suspended rotor idea could be adapted to negate the dead spot.
I have done a few tests and this is what i came up with.It is a twin magnet rotor with both north poles facing in the same direction.The magnets are mounted on a shaft so as to align with the coil windings and miss the centre and it seems to work quite well and is very stable.The speed is fast and amp draw low and i can run satellites at a greater distance than with the single magnet.
Another interesting thing was that when the rotor is going fast and i move it towards the coil,the amp draw goes negative for a couple of seconds.You can see this on the vid and i have taken a pic of this which i enclose.
I know this rotor is using two magnets but it is somthing else to try.Regards jonny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZbscMyotJg

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Re: One magnet no bearing Bedini motor
« Reply #269 on: July 03, 2009, 08:15:34 PM »
Jonny:

Very smart idea!!!  That is excellent man.  How did you come up with this?  Hey, negative amp draw sounds like free energy to me..even if only for that short duration.  Maybe we can find a way to increase the length of time that it does that?

I will go have a look at your video.  Excellent work Jonny.

Bill

 

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