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Author Topic: New design, LaFonte Group, animation, Balanced Rings Rotary Magnet Motor  (Read 16226 times)

broli

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Re: New design, LaFonte Group, animation, Balanced Rings Rotary Magnet Motor
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2009, 12:08:08 AM »
Butch, any idea in mind on how to build the linear setup? The only suggestion I have is to use some linear bearings and coils for fast movement of the two magnetic rings.
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Butch LaFonte

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Re: New design, LaFonte Group, animation, Balanced Rings Rotary Magnet Motor
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2009, 12:13:28 AM »
Broli,
Yes, I have a super, super, linear design for proof of concept. I will make drawing and post in a few hours.
Thanks,
Butch
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Butch LaFonte

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ULTRA simple linear fixture for proof of concept LaFonte Group Magnet Motor
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2009, 04:45:24 AM »
Note: The two side plates can not be connected at the bottom with any ferromagnetic material.
Lowes Hardware should have everything you need for this except magnets. They might even have those.
Also, before sliding up side rails make sure rolling magnet is as close to being centered between the two side rails as possible.
If possible the rolling magnet should never touch the side rails because it will cause unnecessary drag during the repositioning to start position phase.
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Butch LaFonte
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Cairun

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Re: Outer flat ring removed, drawing attached
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2009, 10:19:58 AM »
Quote from: Butch LaFonte on March 28, 2009, 02:46:47 AM
I was hoping that the attraction force of the rotor and fixed stator magnets to the rings would be the same when they were seperated and when they were lined up with each other, but to my suprise the pull is greater, almost double is some simulations when the rotor and stator magnets are lined up.
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Butch LaFonte

have you solved this problem yet? the problem about the pull force being greater when the magnets are not lined up.   
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broli

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Re: Outer flat ring removed, drawing attached
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2009, 02:43:12 PM »
Quote from: Cairun on April 04, 2009, 10:19:58 AM
have you solved this problem yet? the problem about the pull force being greater when the magnets are not lined up.   

It's not really a problem. When they line up and the plates go in this stores a certain amount of energy in the repulsing magnets on the outside. When the rotor magnet then moves away this repulsing force will be double of the force that the stator and rotor magnets are pulling the plates with. So it wants to spontaneously open the plates again the moment the stator and rotor magnets are not aligned. So it's a good thing. A mechanical switch has to be installed though so that it doesn't open too soon on its own.
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Butch LaFonte

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Re: Outer flat ring removed, drawing attached
« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2009, 04:43:54 PM »
Quote from: Cairun on April 04, 2009, 10:19:58 AM
have you solved this problem yet? the problem about the pull force being greater when the magnets are not lined up.   
Cairun,
As you can see in my video on youtube, the pull force when the magnets are lined up is the same or greater than when they are seperated.
Also I stopped using repulsion, the magnets are in attraction now when they line up.
Thanks,
Butch LaFonte
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Cairun

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Re: Outer flat ring removed, drawing attached
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2009, 11:27:45 PM »
Quote from: Butch LaFonte on April 04, 2009, 04:43:54 PM
Cairun,
As you can see in my video on youtube, the pull force when the magnets are lined up is the same or greater than when they are seperated.
Also I stopped using repulsion, the magnets are in attraction now when they line up.
Thanks,
Butch LaFonte

interesting.  i thought it would be exactly the opposite, that the pull force would be greater when the mangets are separated.  perhaps your concept is, after all, different from mine.  good luck!
Cairun
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Re: Outer flat ring removed, drawing attached
« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2009, 12:11:10 AM »
Quote from: Cairun on April 04, 2009, 11:27:45 PM
interesting.  i thought it would be exactly the opposite, that the pull force would be greater when the mangets are separated.  perhaps your concept is, after all, different from mine.  good luck!
Cairun
Cairun,
Sorry, but I don't recall your concept, did you post it here?
Butch
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Cairun

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Re: Outer flat ring removed, drawing attached
« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2009, 01:24:45 AM »
Quote from: Butch LaFonte on April 05, 2009, 12:11:10 AM
Cairun,
Sorry, but I don't recall your concept, did you post it here?
Butch

no, i have not posted my concept.  i do not want to give false hope. 
if my concept works, then the world will know; on the other hand if it does not work, then, it is not worth the effort to post it. 
for now, i am more interested in the result of your work.  i do believe your concept will work, given enough time and effort.  so, i wish you the best of luck.
Cairun
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Butch LaFonte

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Re: New design, LaFonte Group, animation, Balanced Rings Rotary Magnet Motor
« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2009, 10:41:32 PM »
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Re: Outer flat ring removed, drawing attached
« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2009, 10:43:04 PM »
Quote from: Cairun on April 04, 2009, 10:19:58 AM
have you solved this problem yet? the problem about the pull force being greater when the magnets are not lined up.   
See new video > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LOkMsh9dqk
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Cairun

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Re: Outer flat ring removed, drawing attached
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2009, 02:13:59 AM »
Quote from: Butch LaFonte on April 09, 2009, 10:43:04 PM
See new video > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LOkMsh9dqk

thank you for answering my question.  it is a good demonstration.  i guess i was thinking of something else.
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Butch LaFonte

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New Youtube address dedicated to LaFonte Group Magnet Motor 1
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2009, 09:45:11 PM »
This link will only have information on one motor basic operating principle only.
http://www.youtube.com/user/LaFonteMagnetMotor1
Thanks,
Butch LaFonte
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