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Author Topic: Where can we find Radium chloride or Radium source ?  (Read 38743 times)

Offline DreamThinkBuild

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Re: Where can we find Radium chloride or Radium source ?
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2009, 02:08:13 AM »
My neighbor had to have a radon mitigation system put in before she could sell her property.

A tube was placed under the basement floor and a fan pulls it out where it is vented. Could radon be used or excited in anyway for electrical generation on it's way through the tube?


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Re: Where can we find Radium chloride or Radium source ?
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2009, 03:15:54 AM »
G'day Tito L. Oracion and all,

This might be an interesting source of radioactivity. It would appear radioactive elements play an important part in the Testatika design. It uses an unorthodox source. Here is the post. I hope you will find this interesting. I did.

I wish I knew what you are working on :-)

Hans von Lieven


I found some data on isotopes.

From here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon-29
"Silicon (Si) has numerous known isotopes, with mass numbers ranging from 22 to
44. 28Si (the most abundant isotope, at 92.23%), 29Si (4.67%), and 30Si (3.1%)
are stable; 32Si is a radioactive isotope produced by argon decay. Its half-life
has been determined to be approximately 170 years (0.21 MeV), and it decays by
beta emission to 32P (which has a 14.28 day half-life [1]) and then to 32S. "

then I made some calculations:

32-Si mass=(31,97414808 * proton mass) (Kg)
32-S mass=(31,97207100 * proton mass) (Kg)

Energy release per atom: (32-Si mass - 32-S mass) x C^2
Atoms per cubic meter, full SiO2 quartz crystal: (calculus) = 2,48e28
Energy per cubic meter: 7,74e15 Joule/m3

that is, 7,74e6 Joule/mm3.

This means that if Baumann found 32.Si isotope quartz crystals, he found some
real beta decay nuclear value.

F_dyne
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/fischerconsulting/edgeresearch.htm

You will find this discussed at http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5421.0;topicseen

Offline Tito L. Oracion

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Re: Where can we find Radium chloride or Radium source ?
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2009, 04:27:30 AM »
G'day Tito L. Oracion and all,

This might be an interesting source of radioactivity. It would appear radioactive elements play an important part in the Testatika design. It uses an unorthodox source. Here is the post. I hope you will find this interesting. I did.

I wish I knew what you are working on :-)

Hans von Lieven


You will find this discussed at http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5421.0;topicseen

HI SIR GOOD DAY

i just want to try to combine this radioactive element and see if it gives good result in my tpu, cause i'm not satisfied to the power it produce.

thats why i open up this thread to get some good info, and i become more interested with it when i read this info .doc that i attached.


Thank you once again sir  and for everyone who gave some info thank you very much!  ;D

God bless you all
otits



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Re: Where can we find Radium chloride or Radium source ?
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2009, 04:27:30 AM »
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Offline triffid

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Re: Where can we find Radium chloride or Radium source ?
« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2009, 06:00:11 AM »
A electroscope's leaves will close faster when ionizing radiation is present than when its not present.Maybe a simple electroscope can take the place of a more expensive geiger counter?It would be interesting to compare the two side by side.Triffid

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Re: Where can we find Radium chloride or Radium source ?
« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2009, 07:10:46 AM »
Why on earth would you want to try to build a nuclear reactor ( when we have so much coal )...no j/k.

But seriously?

Radiation destroys things, creates heat - which destroys magnetic fields.  Besides, most radiation is atomic particles at high speed - just incidental mass and heat.

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Re: Where can we find Radium chloride or Radium source ?
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Offline Qwert

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Re: Where can we find Radium chloride or Radium source ?
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2009, 06:46:31 PM »

"Salts of quinine, for instance, are not radioactive. By letting them be slightly hydrated after desiccation, they become so, and remain phosphorescent while hydration lasts. Mercury and tin show no perceptible signs of radioactivity under the influence of light; but as to the former a trace of the latter, and its radioactivity at once becomes intense. These experiments even led me thereafter to modify entirely the properties of certain simple bodies by the addition of minute quantities of foreign bodies."

This above is an excerpt from "The Evolution of Matter" by Gustave Le Bon. This book was issued in 1907. It is available on rexresearch.com though somewhat incomplete. It is available anyway on Amazon.com for somewhat about $30.00 - just type the title and author in  appropriate spot of your search engine.
I've paid attention to this book  while reading the biography of T. H. Moray which I found in "The Sea of Energy in Which The Earth Flows" which is available here:
http://www.tesla.hu/moray/moray.htm
I am excited with the results of work of T. H. Moray since this was a guy who had real effects. And Gustave Le Bon's "The Evolution of Matter" was his favorite. In my opinion, even if he used some radioactive elements in his RE device, it is a challenge to present day nuclear power plants.
With Regards,
Marek P.
 

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Re: Where can we find Radium chloride or Radium source ?
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2009, 11:37:30 PM »
Save your money folks. Google has it in it's book list. PDF download on side. Google book search is your friend.

"The Evolution of Matter" by Gustave Le Bon (1907)
http://books.google.com/books?id=NpUXAAAAYAAJ&dq=the+Evolution+of+Matter&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=6Y_fESJZoP&sig=VADKm4SGGcbk2lhbYI_iHhtsmUA&hl=en&ei=xrTPSZyONYvWlQe_4cDICQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result

"The Evolution of Forces" By Gustave Le Bon, F. Legge (1908)
http://books.google.com/books?id=nO84AAAAMAAJ&pg=PR3&dq=Gustave+Le+Bon,+F.+Legge

"The radiochemistry of thorium" By Earl K. Hyde (1960)
http://books.google.com/books?id=K0MrAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=thorium&lr=#PPP1,M1

"Radium, and other radio-active substances" By William Joseph Hammer (1903)
http://books.google.com/books?id=OWYPAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=thorium&lr=

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Re: Where can we find Radium chloride or Radium source ?
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Re: Where can we find Radium chloride or Radium source ?
« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2009, 12:11:14 AM »
@DreamThinkBuild,

Only The radiochemistry of thorium is downloadable, you have to buy the others  >:(

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Re: Where can we find Radium chloride or Radium source ?
« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2009, 12:42:30 AM »
@DreamThinkBuild,

Only The radiochemistry of thorium is downloadable, you have to buy the others  >:(

Hans von Lieven

??? Odd it works here.

When I click the download I get  "The Evolution of Matter" the full PDF (6.4MB) for the book.

The front matter of the PDF (481 pages) contains this:

"This is a digital copy of a book that was preserved for generations on library shelves before it was carefully scanned by Google as part of a project to make the world’s books discoverable online.
It has survived long enough for the copyright to expire and the book to enter the public domain. A public domain book is one that was never subject to copyright or whose legal copyright term has expired. Whether a book is in the public domain may vary country to country. Public domain books are our gateways to the past, representing a wealth of history, culture and knowledge that’s often difficult to discover. Marks, notations and other marginalia present in the original volume will appear in this file - a reminder of this book’s long journey from the publisher to a library and finally to you."

Please try these links it is direct to the PDF. According to the Google front matter these are public domain.

The Evolution of Matter
http://books.google.com/books/download/The_evolution_of_matter.pdf?id=NpUXAAAAYAAJ&output=pdf&sig=ACfU3U2HywO1ZO5EvoWqA11WXodJinGOAQ

The Evolution of Forces
http://books.google.com/books/download/The_Evolution_of_Forces.pdf?id=nO84AAAAMAAJ&output=pdf&sig=ACfU3U3k6n4j8xDvjyz92bJIwhkZ8uTzTQ

Radium, and other radio-active substances
http://books.google.com/books/download/Radium__and_other_radio_active_substance.pdf?id=OWYPAAAAYAAJ&output=pdf&sig=ACfU3U0Il-HS5tYO5YqgzH57vsBymxs7kg

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Re: Where can we find Radium chloride or Radium source ?
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Re: Where can we find Radium chloride or Radium source ?
« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2009, 01:00:42 AM »
Why is "The Evolution of Matter" for sale? Did RexResearch buy the rights to resell?

http://books.google.com/books/download/The_evolution_of_matter.pdf?id=NpUXAAAAYAAJ&output=pdf&sig=ACfU3U2HywO1ZO5EvoWqA11WXodJinGOAQ

Google front page of the PDF.

"...It has survived long enough for the copyright to expire and the book to enter the public domain. A public domain book is one that was never subject to copyright or whose legal copyright term has expired..."

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Re: Where can we find Radium chloride or Radium source ?
« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2009, 01:25:39 AM »
@ DreamThinkBuild,

Funny, all three links come up with Document not found !  Maybe it has something to do with me being in Australia  ???

The rexresearch ones work though they won't download the illustrations.

Hans

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Re: Where can we find Radium chloride or Radium source ?
« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2009, 04:51:37 AM »
Dream think,I was able to see all three links.Thorium can be found in crushed granite rock.Triffid

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Re: Where can we find Radium chloride or Radium source ?
« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2009, 07:47:24 AM »
"When, in an enclosed vessel, containing some emanation from a radioactive body --- thorium, for example, a metal plate charged with negative electricity at a high potential is introduced, all the particles emitted by the thorium concentrate themselves upon it, and, according to Rutherford, this plate becomes 10,000 times more active, surface for surface, than the thorium itself." This is an excerpt from "The Evolution of Matter" by G. Le Bon (page 144 of the original), as well as this one:
"It would seems, from M. Curie’s experiments, that bismuth, plunged into a solution of radium bromide and carefully washed immediately, remains radioactive for at least three years"
In another spot one can read this:
"A trace of tin mixed with mercury makes that solution radioactive while in the presence of light"
 With regards,
 Marek P

Offline amigo

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Re: Where can we find Radium chloride or Radium source ?
« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2009, 05:16:08 AM »
@ hansvonlieven

Did you mean the links I posted?

I you wish I can zip my off-lined versions and put it up on rapidshare for download?

Please let me know.

 

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