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Offline wattsup

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Re: The Last TPU Development On The WWW
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2009, 02:16:26 PM »
@otto

I only have one long question.

1. You know that when I talk about any of the TPU's I will always refer specifically to parts of the device itself. So my question is if we take the FTPU as an example what do you mean when you say the word "core".

Mutiple choices.
A. The top and bottom outer coil
B. The top and bottom outer ring
C. The center toroid
D. Something else in the FTPU? What?
E. None of the above. You are referring to the later donut type TPUs (STPU, 6TPU, MTPU, LTPU) and the core is the material used as the soft filling in the outer ring.

That's the only question because everything else I understand "very well". lol

Keep well.

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« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2009, 02:24:33 PM »
Hello all,

@wattsup

I made a 15" TPU.

The core is a copper pipe 12mm = 1/2" in diameter and the diameter of the core is exactly 15". I have 2 cores stacked.

On 1 core is a collector made with lamp wire tuned to 245kHz and the other core has also a lamp wire tuned to 35kHz. Both collectors connected in a Mobius way. No need for controls as I alreday posted today.

Otto

PS. More if needed on Monday. Its TPU time. Ciao.

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Re: The Last TPU Development On The WWW
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2009, 03:51:43 PM »
HELOO TO ALL 

I LIKE TO SAY
  FOR DONIG AND MAKE   TPU

I THING IS IMPORTANT HOW IS MAKE COLECTORS COILS OR <RECIVERS COILS  <<

otto is  has raid to say that control coil is not very important  <only pick up coils> ;)

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« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2009, 04:29:26 PM »
I understand the need for most people to trust in what SM has said through his correspondence to Lindsay,  But.........


He is not disclosing much as he promised, and he just puts out ideas to get people experimenting etc.., but there are a few quite reavealing statements from him, if you know what he knows.


The simplest truths about the TPU come from the video where he simply says,   to tune into a frequency that exists in the magnetic field,  NOT the electric, the magnetic. 

-right away a smart person realizes the fact that that's why his devices look like loops of coil and not dipole antennas,

-right away a smart person realizes that larger TPU areas, or diameters, allow capture of more current from a oscillating magnetic field, which is what we see in the videos,

some of you might not like to hear this, and I can understand, but the reality is, most are taking out of context what SM has said !!

Yes we can play with tubes, kicks, PC boards, transformers, etc.., but these were just stories from SM on how he came to think, and where he arived,  and where did he arrive?   

you guessed it,  AT TUNNING INTO A MAGNETIC FREQUENCY !.

So how do we tune?

Well that's the whole trick of the TPUs.  Here's some of my educated ideas:

How you tune might range from the simple concepts to the more complex ones, for example, a modern radio might use the superheterodyne principle, where one has to have a stable local oscillator and a nonlinear device for mixing the received signal, from the antenna or loop, with the local oscillator signal, and perhaps SMs device, like he says, does just that, where his antenna element is the basic loop and it's driven by low frequency (kHz range) magnetic induction.

The best solutions for the TPU in my mind are the following:

1)  parametric oscillation where the driving signal is the oscillating magnetic field that modulates the inductance of a magnetic core, much like the magnetic amplifyers used in specialty high power equipment, the energy comes from the driving magnetic force at twice the frequency of the tank resonance.

2)  high Q resonators to build up the received voltage as high as possible, and these can have different forms
  2a)   LC tank circuits built with inductors and capacitors with special attention for high Q design.
  2b)   equivalent LC tank circuits where the properties of piezzo crystals are used  (like in crystal oscillators where series resonance might be used)
  2c)  mechanical resonators driven by loop signals, and judging my TPU desings,  the magnetostricion phenomena seems to be the coupling, or tranducing phenomena from electrical signals to acoustic vibrations and the resulting acoustic standing waves in the wire, be it longitudinal (compressive acoustic waves) or torsional acoustic waves (Weidemann phenomena)
  2d) other novel phenomena, etc..

3) A mixing device, built with magnetic cores that are almost saturated and hence NONLINEAR.  Hendershots device might have fit into this category from some of the stuff I read (not his later two coil setup seen in the photo)
  3a)  with a mixing device, energy is input at one frequency and mixes with the true signal that would be higher in frequency (or lower) and shifts it down (or up).   The energy would come from both the input signal AND the received signal,  so this might appear to be OVERUNITY if one does not understand what is happening.
  3b) this is a new novel mixing AND high Q filtering/tunning idea that I've discoverd from my patent searches.  It is the idea of using the lorenthz force phenomena.  Let me illustate.  Imagine you have a conductive ring.  Now, if there's an external oscillating magnetic field with a component normal to the plane of the ring, it will induce currents in this one turn closed loop ring, big deal, you won't even feel a thing unless the magnetic field is HUGE.  But if it's small the only way to realy tell something is happening is to bring it close to an oscillating circuit and you will realize how it kills the oscillations,  we have effectively brough a loaded primary loop and formed a transformer that's shorted on the output (stepdown transformer in this case, and we are increasing the magnetic coupling , or 'K' as we bring it closer)   Ok, so what? what is this closed ring good for?   Here's where things get interesting.   The ring happens to also be resonant at ACOUSTIC frequecies (or mechanical vibratory modes), so if we have a signal high in frequency, like let's say 100 kHz, how can we use the mechanical vibratory modes which might be at 1 kHz or lower and are not even the same physical phenomena (electromagnetic vs. acoustic/mechanical vibration)?  Well, we know these lower vibratory modes are high Q, and that's what we want, but our signal is just not where it's supposed to be in frequency, but there's hope.    If we place a magnetic field transverse to the ring, and modulate it,  by the lorentz force equation in the general form of  F = I x B, where F = force, I=current induced by the external oscillating magnetic field, and B=local magnetic field that's modulated,  you can see we aready have the IDEAL MIXER, which is basicaly the MULTIPLICATION function.   These type of ideal mixers are actualy a hot topic of research in certain circles, very little info on the web. They basicaly are ideal and transduce the electrical signals at the same time, directly into mechanical vibratory signals, or frequencies.  So two functions happen at once, Mixing and transduction (or change from one form to another, in this case, from electromagnetic to mechanical)  Now,  hopefully you can see that we can mix (or multiply) the signals together and by the nature of the mixing (or multiplicaiton) function, we shift signals in frequency(check out mixing theory on the web),  so we pick the right local oscillating frequency to modulate the local magnetic field (B in the equation) and we tune just right, and when one of the mixing products  (or resultant down converted frequency) lands on the resonant mode of the ring, wallaaaaa,.... the ring will "ring" like crazy !!  i.e.,   it will VIBRATE !!!! with a high Q.     I think most people can take it from here and know how to use a vibration to generate electricity from it.  This vibration once again, is a biproduct of the

1)  LOCAL OSCILLTOR INPUT POWER
2)  RECEIVED SIGNAL POWER,

due to the high Q nature of this resonant lorentz force ideal mixer, we can get a nice powerful output signal.

So anyway, this is another hot topic, and quite a possibility in this category of TPUs.  The open TPU comes to mind when I think of these concepts.

But one thing is clear in my mind, and you can guess what that is,  the energy has to come from somewhere, and after seeing the power lines by his mansion, I don't care what anybody says that's where the power MOST LIKELY comes from.  We can agree to disagree here, but that's my stance for now untill proven otherwise.

Good luck on your receiver designs, whatever shape and form they may be !

Energy is just waiting for you to capture it and put it to use !!

EM
« Last Edit: March 20, 2009, 05:34:08 PM by EMdevices »

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Re: The Last TPU Development On The WWW
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2009, 04:42:32 PM »
@Otto
It is nice to hear about your successes. I have worked on many projects for many years. One thing you learn in all these projects is that no one knows everything and different people are good at different things.

Do you have a picture of your latest TPU?


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« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2009, 05:13:40 PM »
I understand the need for most people to trust in what SM has said through his correspondence to Lindsay,  But.........


He is not disclosing much as he promised, and he just puts out ideas to get people experimenting etc.., but there are a few quite reavealing statements from him, if you know what he knows.


The simplest truths about the TPU come from the video where he simply says,   to tune into a frequency that exists in the magnetic field,  NOT the electric, the magnetic. 

-right away a smart person realizes the fact that that's why his devices look like loops of coil and not dipole antennas,

-right away a smart person realizes that larger TPU areas, or diameters, allow capture of more current from a oscillating magnetic field, which is what we see in the videos,

some of you might not like to hear this, and I can understand, but the reality is, most are taking out of context what SM has said !!

Yes we can play with tubes, kicks, PC boards, transformers, etc.., but these were just stories from SM on how he came to think, and where he arived,  and where did he arrive?   

you guessed it,  AT TUNNING INTO A MAGNETIC FREQUENCY !.

So how do we tune?

Well that's the whole trick of the TPUs.  Here's some of my educated ideas:

How you tune might range from the simple concepts to the more complex ones, for example, a modern radio might use the superheterodyne principle, where one has to have a stable local oscillator and a nonlinear device for mixing the received signal, from the antenna or loop, with the local oscillator signal, and perhaps SMs device, like he says, does just that, where his antenna element is the basic loop and it's driven by low frequency (kHz range) magnetic induction.

The best solutions for the TPU in my mind are the following:

1)  parametric oscillation where the driving signal is the oscillating magnetic field that modulates the inductance of a magnetic core, much like the magnetic amplifyers used in specialty high power equipment, the energy comes from the driving magnetic force at twice the frequency of the tank resonance.

2)  high Q resonators to build up the received voltage as high as possible, and these can have different forms
  2a)   LC tank circuits built with inductors and capacitors with special attention for high Q design.
  2b)   equivalent LC tank circuits where the properties of piezzo crystals are used  (like in crystal oscillators where series resonance might be used)
  2c)  mechanical resonators driven by loop signals, and judging my TPU desings,  the magnetostricion phenomena seems to be the coupling, or tranducing phenomena from electrical signals to acoustic vibrations and the resulting acoustic standing waves in the wire, be it longitudinal (compressive acoustic waves) or torsional acoustic waves (Weidemann phenomena)
  2d) other novel phenomena, etc..

3) A mixing device, built with magnetic cores that are almost saturated and hence NONLINEAR.  Hendershots device might have fit into this category from some of the stuff I read (not his later two coil setup seen in the photo)
  3a)  with a mixing device, energy is input at one frequency and mixes with the true signal that would be higher in frequency (or lower) and shifts it down (or up).   The energy would come from both the input signal AND the received signal,  so this might appear to be OVERUNITY if one does not understand what is happening.
  3b) this is a new novel mixing AND high Q filtering/tunning idea that I've discoverd from my patent searches.  It is the idea of using the lorenthz force phenomena.  Let me illustate.  Imagine you have a conductive ring.  Now, if there's an oscillating magnetic field it will induce currents in this one turn closed loop, big deal, you won't even feel a thing unless the magnetic field is HUGE.  But if it's small the only way to realy tell something is happening is to bring it close to an oscillating circuit and you will realize how it kills the oscillations,  we have effectively brough a loaded primary loop and formed a transformer that's shorted on the output (stepdown transformer in this case)   Ok, so what what is this closed ring good for?   Here's where things get interesting.   The ring happens to also be resonant at ACOUSTIC frequecies (or mechanical vibratory modes), so if we have a signal high in frequency like let's say 100 kHz, how can we use the mechanical vibratory modes which might be at 1 kHz or lower?  We know these lower vibratory modes are high Q, and that's what we want but our signal is just not where it's supposed to be in frequency, but there's hope.    If we place a magnetic field transverse to the ring, and modulate it,  by the lorentz force equation in the general form of  F = I x B, where F = force, I=current, and B=magnetic field that's modulated,  you can see we aready have the IDEAL MIXER, which is basicaly the MULTIPLICATION function.   These type of ideal mixers are actualy a hot topic of research in certain circles, very little info on the web.  Now,  you can see hopefully that we can now mix (or multiply) the signals together and by the nature of the mixing (or multiplicaiton) function, we shift signals in frequency,  so we pick the right local oscillating frequency to modulate the magnetic field and we tune just right and when one of the mixing products  (or resultant down converted frequency lands on the resonant mode of the ring, walaaaaa,.... the ring will ring like crazy,  it will VIBRATE !!!! with a high Q.     I think most people can take it from here and know how to use a vibration to generate electricity from it.  This vibration once again, is a biproduct of the

1)  LOCAL OSCILLTOR INPUT POWER
2)  RECEIVED SIGNAL POWER,

due to the high Q nature of this resonant lorentz force ideal mixer, we can get a nice powerful output signal.

So anyway, this is another hot topic, and quite a possibility in this category of TPUs.  The open TPU comes to mind when I think of these concepts.

But one thing is clear in my mind, and you can guess what that is,  the energy has to come from somewhere, and after seeing the power lines by his mansion, I don't care what anybody says that's where the power MOST LIKELY comes from.  We can agree to disagree here, but that's my stance for now untill proven otherwise.

Good luck on your receiver designs, whatever shape and form they may be !

Energy is just waiting for you to capture it and put it to use !!

EM

Eureka, buddy! Seen from the right angle, SM spoke the truth.
The range of listening is increased to KiloMeters just like an AM radio. Only we're are not interested in the noise(entertainment) on the magnetic field. We are grabbing or bending the field itself. The control is just that, to vary the impedance to diminish the listening area (Effective Aperature) of the coil. Leave it wide open and you flush the diamond ring down the toilet while you are still wearing it. :o

Wattsup posted this before and it was even posted many times before that over the years.
http://amasci.com/tesla/tesceive.html
This guy even says that your external ears transmit a field and receives the impinging on that distant field to your ear drum. The outer ear reports to the inner ear. Effective aperature, again.

The other example is Tesla's antennas have an oscillator in the base of them.

If any of you should not heed EMdevices post or read past this one then back away from the technology. You don't understand. :)

--giantkiller. My day has been made whole.

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Re: The Last TPU Development On The WWW
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2009, 05:23:41 PM »
I

The simplest truths about the TPU come from the video where he simply says,   to tune into a frequency that exists in the magnetic field,  NOT the electric, the magnetic. 

.
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TUNNING INTO A MAGNETIC FREQUENCY !.


@EM

As I don't think that the Earth has a magnetic frequency, If there is any frequency that SM tunes to, it would be a man made one so, I agree with you there however if the magnetic waves can be translated into electric wave by the miracle of TPU, why not tap into it!

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« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2009, 06:34:28 PM »
@AM,

If you know this stuff, I appologize, but let me state the obvious for the sake of clarity. 

All fluctuating magnetic fields are paired with fluctuating electric fields !!
One drives the other and vice versa !!

these are the basics of electrodynamics, and that's what we are dealing with here.

You are correct, ultimately, we want a voltage at a terminal so we can plug our gadgets into it, but how we transform from some magnetic fluctuations around us to that voltage potential at the output of the TPU, is the trick and the science of Radio reception (but Radio is low power as we know, but it doesn't have to be).

regarding the "EARTH" magnetic fields,  there are NATURAL and MAN MADE fields, which can be static or dyanamic.  Obviously we are not able to extract energy from a static magnetic field (endlesly, more like a one time shot), and SM already mentions a dynamic or oscillating field at about 5 or 6 khz.  The static field isn't much use than for orientation and navigation.

Here's an important point.  Most people assume SM is implying the STATIC EARTH's Magnetic field, but that is incorrect, since he mentions an INHERENT FREQUENCY of it.   He should of said, the magnetic field around me, or in my house, or in this city, or in my country, but when you go all the way out and say the EARTH,  somehow we miss the fact that he's talking about a frequency and jump to a conclusion that it's the magnetic field of the earth, in it's trues meaning, which is static.  I admit, that's what my mind wants to interpret when I hear the words MAGNETIC FIELD associated with the word EARTH.

EM

P.S.  In a philosophical sense,  all the frequencies around us are EARTHLY, since we obviously don't live on MARS or some other place.  Their origin however might not be so earthly.

P.S.  People praise Nathan Stubblefield  as the earliest WIRELESS TELEPHONE inventor (according to some websites , e.g. sir Bronson) but modern phones work on electromagnetic waves which PROPAGATE, his devices were mostly low frequency (in fact, base band audio) which were INDUCTIVELY COUPLED from suspended cables, much like we (or I should say,)  I am trying to do from POWER LINES.  These have such a large wavelength that we can't say we are coupling with them by propagation, sice we are in the inductive NEAR FIELD.

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« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2009, 06:52:19 PM »
@GK, thanks for the afirmation.  We have to get as wide an aperture as we practicaly can, absolutely, and you know what resonance does when all other physical parameters have been maximized. creates and EFFECTIVE aperture that can be way larger then the physical dimentions.  There goes that dimond ring !!

EM

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« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2009, 08:42:25 PM »
Hi all,

<WARNING>
I have little electronics knowledge and the following is probably just NOISE, but I just had a small (and probably false) epiphany sparked by some things I had read in another thread likening the TPU to Leedskalnin's perpetual motion holder and the posts in this thread page by otto and EM.
Many of the electrical and physics terms used below may be misused and please excuse my ignorance of proper terminology.
</WARNING>

In the Leedskalnin/TPU thread here on OU I think, the author (sorry, don't know who it was OTOH) was pointing out how the shape and the function of both devices are alike in that a stored current in motion generates energy.

The perpetual motion holder proves this (reportedly) by someone being able to measure the amount of electricity that it has captured without the the measurement decreasing the amount of stored energy.
This makes sense to me as I've always been taught an effect can't be measured without marginally depleting its source, and that is not supposed to happen when measuring the PMH.

The TPU (to my VERY limited understanding) is much like the perpetual motion holder in that it has a captured amount of energy traveling in a circular motion in the core, but with control coils around the core whose current will travel 90 degrees in relation to the captured current "braking" (thank you otto!) it, and a collector coil to harvest the aetheric/orgone/ZPE/etc. produced, also at 90 degrees to the circular captured current.

[The 90 degrees statements above are a radical oversimplification as controller current is traveling up/down at the same time it is moving at a linear 90 degree tangent.]

I've always wondered why the magnetic "B" area created by flowing electricity was never captured and harnessed in all electrical devices (this is a broad statement made from my very limited electronics understanding) and the post from EM (thank you EM!) kind of "gave words" to an idea that reinforces why I've wondered about that.

In my opinion (and this is ONLY an opinion!), you cannot divorce the two.

That's why when otto was explaining the control coils being a brake for the captured current, a little light went on that made me think,
"The captured current in the ring is moving in a circular direction creating a 'B' field. The current traveling the control coil is creating a 'B' field that is effectively choking the captured current in the core and (here is where it gets REALLY ignorant) slowing the captured current, and maybe even for an infinitesimal amount of time stopping that flow, dependent on the frequency of the control current.

The frequency of the control coil regulates the choking effect by lower frequency having less pulses and creating a 'B' field that the 'B' field of the captured current 'bumps into and slides past' effectively slowing the core current. The higher the frequency, the faster the rate of pulses and the smaller the area NOT containing the "B" field from the controls current creating a variable gate depending on frequency."

Then EM's post supported the above theory (to my limited understanding) to the point that the light bulb glowed bright and melted. ;)

In essence, thinking of the captured current in the core like a river flowing in a circular direction and the control coil(s) being a dam.
The frequency of the control coil regulates both the size and the placement of the "spillway" for the dam in the way that the spillway size (larger = less pressure, smaller = more pressure) and the spillway placement (top of the dam = less pressure, bottom of the dam = greater pressure) so it can effectively stop the captured current flow for a time.

But when pressure exceeds the the dams holding abilities, a crack appears that lets a jet of water (electrons?) escape at a much increased velocity to travel the circle and (BANG!) hits the mass (meaning large amount, not atomic) of dammed electrons held by the control coil(s) (dam).

This movement (BANG!) adds to the pressure behind the dam, but instead of the crack widening, it just adds that much more velocity to the next electron that escapes because while the electron is "stopped" by the mass of dammed electrons it runs into, the "B" field transfers its energy through the mass of electrons (like dropping the end ball of a kinetic sculpture with 5 suspended balls to see the middle 3 stay static, but the ball on the end react) to the next electron at the brink of escaping the crack.

This electron is kept straining at the gate since its magnetic field is captured by the magnetic field pulses in the control coil creating a gate that is just too small for it to escape until it has enough energy to temporarily deform its own, or the gates magnetic field and squeeze through.

When it does this, it helps to think of the electron having mass in the middle equal to the mass of the field corona, and that the middle mass is what gets effected by the pressure and the middle can travel within the field corona, but will naturally want to settle in the center of the field corona.

Since the middle is being "pushed" and it's relation to its own field corona it is offset from center (how much depends on gate size and mass pressure), and when it has enough energy to escape the gate it is at it's most offset to the center.

Think of a ball with a rubber band running through its center attached top and bottom to a hoop ring. If you pull the ball away from the hoop and then let go:

If the hoop ring is static, the ball goes through the ring to the other side the maximum amount the rubber bands will stretch in relation to the non-moving hoop, and then rebound to almost the place it was let go from, oscillating until centered and at rest.

If the hoop was not static (like the field corona being tied to the middle mass) the escaping electron starts at X velocity,
 and then is accelerated/amplified by the oscillations of the middle mass trying to recenter within the field corona and  that effect "sling shotting" it around the circle until it hits the mass at the dam.
[All the above assumes the electron only wants to travel in one direction. I don't know if that's the case or not.}
 
IF (again, I warn you that this is opinion ONLY) this is what occurs, then I'd liken the TPU to a gauss gun using only the magnetics created by traveling current, instead of PMs.

Each control coil is like the magnet/ball assembly of a crude gauss gun in that the electron is the ball, and the control coil is the magnet. The mass that is the ball/electron is stopped, but the velocity it had traveling to the place it was stopped is imparted (transferred) to the next traveling ball on the other end, while being amplified.

Wouldn't this be a convenient answer to the "kick" question? (At least what I understand of it.)

Could this be the reason for "runaways" and "meltdowns" since the motion is circular and the "ball" is always hitting another ball/magnet assembly amplifying it continually??

Please excuse me if this is an already postulated and well known theory, but it just struck me reading this thread and I had to write it down before the thought was gone.

@ otto

Your core/no core ideas above make me think of the core being to electricity what the magnifying glass is to sunlight in that both take a relatively "weak" incoherent energy and concentrate it into "stronger" coherent energy by focusing it.

Different materials give different results (intensities) because of what they do to the "B" field of the traveling current?
This makes me wonder if anyone has experimented with different core materials (copper, aluminum, and pure iron come to mind immediately) to change the speed or shape of the "B" field?

@ EM

Thanks again for reminding me to think of the magnetic/electronic relation as I have been stewing over it for sometime.
I was right with your post up until the last paragraph before your typing in bold, and then I was way out of my depth.

Thank you all for your indulgence and if you think any part of this might be an interesting experiment to try to prove, please do as I would probably injure myself or someone else if I attempted it with my present level of electrical knowledge. :D

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Re: The Last TPU Development On The WWW
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2009, 10:04:06 PM »
The effective aperture has some matchup like 1/4 wave with the 5 or 6khz pertaining to the circumference of Earth.
This idea was posted by, I believe Sparks a while back. Can't find it.

But here are some numbers:
5khz = 2,356,992 inches per cycle @ 1/4 wave = 589248" or 49,104' or 9.30 miles
6khz = 1,964,160 inches per cycle @ 1/4 wave = 491040" or 40,920' or 7.75 miles

With the Earth vertical circumference of 24,859.82
1/4 cycle of 5khz fits 2673.09 times
1/4 cycle of 6khz fits 3207.71 times

Just cranking out numbers.

--giantkiller.
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Re: The Last TPU Development On The WWW
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Re: The Last TPU Development On The WWW
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2009, 12:25:48 AM »
Gk
Your lab technicians seem quite focused,you are most fortunate!!
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« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2009, 03:08:18 AM »
Gk
Your lab technicians seem quite focused,you are most fortunate!!
Chet

They were on the project first and called me when they needed a mouse. Ar Ar. ;D

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« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2009, 12:21:01 PM »
heloo

AGAIN NOBODY DONT LIKE TO READ WHAT IM TRAED TO SAY

OK COLECTOR  OR PICK UP COIL OR  RECIVERS COILS  ARE  VERY IMPORTANT 

MAST BE  MAKE  PERFECKT AND TUNE COILS  TO HAVE THAT ENERGY 
IF YOU DONT MAKE PROPERLY NEVER YOU WHILL MAKE  <,THAT IS  SURE >.

 OK I KNOW NOBODY LISTEN ME  BUT ONE DAY  WHILL CAME  THIS  WORDS  <,AND YOU WHILL SAY >>


THE <MACEDONIA CD  >>IS SAYING THE TRUE 
NO PROBLEM 
I BE WAITING  TO SAY
THE PURE GAY FROM MACEDONIA  IS TELL THE TRUE

NOW I LIKE TO POINT EXSACTLY WHAT  YOU MAST DOING IN FUTURE  WHEN YOU MAKES EXPERIMENTS 
TUNE AND  COLECTORS ,OR PICKUP COILS  OR RECIVERS COILS

THIS 3 TYPE  OF WORDS  IS MEAN THE SAME THING
IS DEPEND  WHAT YOU WHILL BE PUT  IN YOU CONTROL COIL 
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I STILL FORGET MY <CAPS LOCK > AGAIN   SORY  ;)

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Re: The Last TPU Development On The WWW
« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2009, 02:18:23 PM »
Sadly my brain has over heated after I read this document:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/13491267/Some-Free-Energy-Devices-eBook
(EM you don't want to miss this)

In it, it said that Hendershot had said what gave him the idea was the "earth induction compass" as used by Lindenberg in his historical flight. As usual all these comments seem to be hear say.

My further reading led me to pattent USRE21156 by Henry D Oakley. I am trying to work out what was powering his device. Some of theses compasses were made for planes and used the flow of external air to power them.

Although this post about Hendershot generator, my focus is still the TPU.
I am not discounting anything and thank every one of you for all your comments and GKs assistants!

In his demonstrations, SM always commented on the diameter of his coils I used to think that is something odd to mention . Reading Some-Free-Energy-Devices-eBook I think there might be a connection.

@exxcomm0n, thanks for your input. Wellcome.


 

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