I just have to pop in here for a minute or two. I have been on a quest to understand
resonance. I found a pdf on the sour effects of it. Very sobering indeed. This was the
effect of someone inadvertantly hitting the 7th harmonic on a power factor correction.
It resulted in over voltage "and" over current situations and the cap was the unlucky
recipient of it.
   SM definately stated that his fundamental was 35k. He stated his top freq was 245k.
So now all we need is the middle one, pick it 3 or 5. Choose how close you get to the
actual harmonic to get your Q factor and that is your gain. He did say it "inherently will
run with gain".
   On another note, it was stated in the pdf that diodes on the output of a transformer
was a major cause of the harmonic "kick back" seen. On a three phase diode set, it
will have six (6) per cycle.  I can upload that pdf if anyone wants it.

thaelin

@T,
Plz do. I am in the spot now of placing diodes. The .7volts wall can cause problems with the initial shock. It's(.7v) there and I want to know the ramifications.

In other words, where do we want the rebound at or just let it fly off somewhere. The RE doesn't see the diode. But I have concerns about the topology as a whole.

Does this make sense and is it clear to what I am saying?

Keely all the way. The frequencies you mentioned are possibly the ones that match best in copper molecules. Now if we had his trexnonar wire the frequencies would obviously change. It looks to be a conductive wave guide. He heterodynes the nodes of the frequencies and uses the latency of each material to his benefit. Gold, Platinum, Silver. And from this he achieves what I would call hyper-resonance.

1. An extreme degree of resonance.

I think solid state is too chattery for this degree of exactness in copper. In other words the frequencies of copper and silicon substrate are discordant at some parts of their note scales or chords.
The Rodin coil approaches this type of operation. The cadaceus type winding has hardwired nodes.

I also believe that the magamp in the SM17 effectively controls the 'Effective aperture'. Otto alluded to this. Widen the mouth of this beast too much in the correct beat freq and, to paraquote Sparks,

You have a gravity sucking nulcear runaway'.

In the microwave oven circuit we have an oscillation to a MOT to a LCR tank and the magnetron. This is a dischord drive mechanism. The magetron diminishes over time. The dischords are a product of mismatched impedances for the level of control we are speaking about here. Good enuff to cook food but a self disintegrator none the less.

Thanks.
--giantkiller.

Hello all,

it seems that nobody wants understand and accept my wrightings. This IS the reason why SM maybe said that he doesnt know how his TPU works. He didnt want to fight with people about this. Of course he knows exactly how the TPU works but the problem is that its a little bit hard to describe and its also not so easy to understand.

Since Im tha proud owner of a 5U4 tube I knew that something was wrong. Wrong because my feeling said me that such a big tube has another job in the TPU. And I was right.

More later.

@Bruce TPU,

I know that all. I have 3 triodes and a 5U4 rectifier tube and tuned collectors.....you name it.

@dankie

who said that Im not in the middle of a fantastic team??

One of the guys has a knowledghe about coils you can only dream about and the other is a top 10 physicist. They dont want to expose themselfs so I dont want to mention their names.

Otto

@otto

I read your writings and will soon use them in my next build but I don't have enough guts to play with the tubes, not just yet anyways. I have an idea to use a tube in a loop that runs just by hitting it with one 12vdc spark, but I am too chicken to try it yet. lol

But something that may be of interest.

On @EM's thread about the HV lines, someone put up a circuit to draw ambient energy. I made one of the circuits and ran a wire out of my office and half way around my home. On that single input wire I got about 1.5 volts so nothing to jump about. But the circuit is using 4 diodes, four caps and the output is two wires, positive and negative DC. One wire in, two wires out. So I said to myself what better way to draw power from a closed loop by having only one input wire. I restarted my FTPU build and connected this to the collector loop and pulsed the outer four coils (2 x two levels) that were connected in series - half up to half down to half up to half down. This is now giving me the best results and if I now use @otto suggestions for materials and add the center toroid, I am sure it will be even better with much faster voltage rise times.

About the 3 frequencies, lets convene that it is possible for the MTPU/LTPU but I doubt is was also used in the smaller units. Example, the FTPU resonance between the outer coil and rings is in the 2.5mhz range according to my tests. Nothing in the 250khz or 35khz range. But again, if some basic configuration changes are made, this could also change. If 2,5mhz was the 7th harmonic, then what would be the first, third and fifth. Funny thing though, 5000 x 5000 = 2.5m

@Grumpy,
It is interesting that you named your attachment "saturable inductors".
I must say for a long time I have suspected a TPU "connection" with magamps perhaps at the output stage.
The problem is I have not had much luck with my input stage!
It is not my style go around shouting Eurica unless I am sure what I am talking about so, this is just speculation.

P.S. Can anyone point me to where I may find S.M's demostration videos? I lost all mine when I had a computer crash.

For those who have working TPUs perhaps this is a trivial point,
from what I remember, SM always was careful to keep his TPU flat/horizontal. does this tell us anything?

Depending on wether they are used just as a closing switch or for pulse compression, you could say saturable inductor or saturable reactor, respectively.

Of course, closer inspection of the videos reveals that the cores "appear" to be wound like a saturable-core reactor, like those used to control AC loads (two coils):

http://www.tpub.com/content/neets/14180/css/14180_136.htm

Someone mentioned a long time ago that this was a popular method of power regulation many years ago.

Here is the circuit with two reactors and this have be the basis of the two cores in the video picture that I just posted.

http://www.tpub.com/content/neets/14180/css/14180_139.htm

YES,this is exactly the same IMHO. Now we know what is used to prevent runaway situation.

SM said : "The point I wish to make here is that also along with the 500 volt
DC is, yes, you guessed it, the 5 volts three amp AC current!
They are both completely independent of each other except for
some very interesting things I will mention to you some other
time..
First of all, obviously you can have several different output
components in the power output signal.
You can have DC and AC together without any problem."

Would somebody enlighten me please ?