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Author Topic: Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim  (Read 973156 times)

Offline Omnibus

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Re: Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim
« Reply #255 on: March 21, 2009, 07:39:59 PM »
@capthook, that's interesting but is an illustration of only one rotor-stator pair. Do you have the 3D picture of the entire array of rotor magnets interacting w/ the stator. This is where the huge difference occurs, wrought w/ insurmountable troughs, as the experience so far shows. The hope was that Mylow somehow restructured that compound rotor field to somehow have it somehow forming a net tangential vector over the clusters of three until the gate, that is, the cluster of four arrived. to allow repetition of the cycle. Roughly that was the expectation and whether or not he achieved it has to be seen. I'm expecting to see if @X00013 still wants to try it.

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Re: Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim
« Reply #255 on: March 21, 2009, 07:39:59 PM »

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Re: Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim
« Reply #256 on: March 21, 2009, 07:45:52 PM »
See, the thing is one can make the rotor turn almost 360 degrees when you start it from what is usually called "sweet spot". But the overcoming of the barrier when the second turn is to commence is the real problem. Thus, if you only have clusters of three (in fact pairs of such clusters, thinking of the Mylow's videos) and even if you succeed to achieve tangential displacement, a moment comes when you arrive at the beginning of the first cluster and this is where the real problem is. We've seen it in more than one cases. Whoever manages to achieve the overcoming of that barrier will be the winner. What was expected here was that the cluster of four was somehow performing that duty and it is still unclear to me whether or not it can really be achieved in this way.

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Re: Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim
« Reply #257 on: March 21, 2009, 08:01:09 PM »
See, the thing is one can make the rotor turn almost 360 degrees when you start it from what is usually called "sweet spot". But the overcoming of the barrier when the second turn is to commence is the real problem. Thus, if you only have clusters of three (in fact pairs of such clusters, thinking of the Mylow's videos) and even if you succeed to achieve tangential displacement, a moment comes when you arrive at the beginning of the first cluster and this is where the real problem is. We've seen it in more than one cases. Whoever manages to achieve the overcoming of that barrier will be the winner. What was expected here was that the cluster of four was somehow performing that duty and it is still unclear to me whether or not it can really be achieved in this way.

I agree. Getting past the 'sticky spot' is the downfall of all the other designs. I believe his 'unbalanced' magnetic flywheel is why it continued to turn.

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Re: Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim
« Reply #257 on: March 21, 2009, 08:01:09 PM »
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Re: Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim
« Reply #258 on: March 21, 2009, 08:02:46 PM »
If it worked for 11 hours, for what reason did it stop?

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Re: Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim
« Reply #259 on: March 21, 2009, 08:03:03 PM »
The solution should be something like an Escher picture http://www.funny-games.biz/pictures/746-painting-of-ladders.html. The “sweet spot” is the top of the hill where the ball starts rolling down until it reaches the bottom which is also a top of a follow-up hill and so on, to infinity. The hope was that that quadruple set of rotor magnets plays to role of such enabler.

The above resembles very much what is observed in my favorite device where lifting the ball from A to B would recover the same energy when the ball is back from B to A. However, instead of that, the ball falls a different route whereby the fall from height B back to A through C is higher than the direct A-B, B-A height. So, in the second case, the same A but the fall from B is from a greater height, as it were.

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« Reply #259 on: March 21, 2009, 08:03:03 PM »
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Re: Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim
« Reply #260 on: March 21, 2009, 08:04:25 PM »
Did it really work for 11 hours without the input of external energy? If it did, I don't care why it stopped on the 11th hour.

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Re: Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim
« Reply #261 on: March 21, 2009, 08:06:19 PM »
I'd hardly call ferrite magnets crappy. It depends what you want. All neo's, with the exception of bonded neo's have low resistance, and therefore are susceptible to eddy currents. Ferrite PM's are electrical insulators, and therefore no measurable eddy currents. Coercivity (what makes a PM) in neo's decreases with increase in temp. Coercivity in all ferrites I'm aware of increases with an increase in temp. So if you need good temp and no eddy currents, then ferrites might be a good choice.

Alnico, ... now that's a crappy PM, LOL!

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Re: Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim
« Reply #262 on: March 21, 2009, 08:11:00 PM »
"Did it really work for 11 hours without the input of external energy? If it did, I don't care why it stopped on the 11th hour."

Why do you even believe such can happen without a know, or unknown source of external energy???

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I spoke with Mylow this morning, asking him why he took down the videos last night.  He said that he draws the line at his family being threatened.  I asked him what form that threat took.  He said it was something posted here at Overunity.com.

I helped him realize that it was just some forum members being obnoxious.  Unfortunately, some of you guys can be extremely rude, and even crossing lines that I would not allow if I was moderating this site.  You'd be out of there if I was in charge, possibly even reporting you the police, to let you have some karma for the negative energy you put out.  You've disrupted things for those of us who are trying to get enough information to be able to replicate the claimed effect.

I'm going to be bringing this to Stefan's attention, mentioning three users in particular, who Mylow mentioned by username.

When someone is going through as much turmoil as Mylow is right now, it is not a good idea to even joke about threats.  He's been getting 3,000 emails a day.  Yahoo even contacted him complaining about the volume of bandwidth he was using.  He was up until 3:00 am last night trying to respond to each one.

He said that 85-90% of the comments are favorable, but some are extremely hurtful in their tone and charges.

I told him to just ignore those and stop reading the forum if it is going to effect him that way.  It's been my experience that people can be brutally rude here and on other like forums -- people who never learned how to properly relate to fellow human beings.

He said he will be reposting the videos later today, and possibly shooting a video of the motor running on a glass table he has.

He discovered that one of the other U-shaped iron magnets he had kicking around has enough magnetism to make the motor run.

Meanwhile:

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=reiyuki&view=videos - back-up location (by another user) of the MYLOW12136 videos

I've posted this link over at http://MylowMagnetMotor.com

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Re: Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim
« Reply #264 on: March 21, 2009, 09:45:17 PM »
I spoke with Mylow this morning, asking him why he took down the videos last night.  He said that he draws the line at his family being threatened.  I asked him what form that threat took.  He said it was something posted here at Overunity.com.

I helped him realize that it was just some forum members being obnoxious.  Unfortunately, some of you guys can be extremely rude, and even crossing lines that I would not allow if I was moderating this site.  You'd be out of there if I was in charge, possibly even reporting you the police, to let you have some karma for the negative energy you put out.  You've disrupted things for those of us who are trying to get enough information to be able to replicate the claimed effect.

I'm going to be bringing this to Stefan's attention, mentioning three users in particular, who Mylow mentioned by username.

When someone is going through as much turmoil as Mylow is right now, it is not a good idea to even joke about threats.  He's been getting 3,000 emails a day.  Yahoo even contacted him complaining about the volume of bandwidth he was using.  He was up until 3:00 am last night trying to respond to each one.

He said that 85-90% of the comments are favorable, but some are extremely hurtful in their tone and charges.

I told him to just ignore those and stop reading the forum if it is going to effect him that way.  It's been my experience that people can be brutally rude here and on other like forums -- people who never learned how to properly relate to fellow human beings.

He said he will be reposting the videos later today, and possibly shooting a video of the motor running on a glass table he has.

He discovered that one of the other U-shaped iron magnets he had kicking around has enough magnetism to make the motor run.

Meanwhile:

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=reiyuki&view=videos - back-up location (by another user) of the MYLOW12136 videos

I've posted this link over at http://MylowMagnetMotor.com

Sterling

1. I have *not* seen one person make a threat to mylow. Ask Stefan to find the proof, rather than believing mylow.

2. Rude? There are some people here making statements based on no information or references that could be rude, but it's mostly people pointing out information/data on events in the videos, and offering their interpretation of such data. Maybe you want a dictatorship where everyone only says what sterling likes.

3. Negative Karma?  Hell will freeze over when speaking truth is negative karma. How about prematurely declaring this as legit as collecting some negative karma.

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I spoke with Mylow this morning, asking him why he took down the videos last night.  He said that he draws the line at his family being threatened.  I asked him what form that threat took.  He said it was something posted here at Overunity.com.

I'm going to be bringing this to Stefan's attention, mentioning three users in particular, who Mylow mentioned by username.

I must disagree with this.  I even went back and read the whole thread again.  At no time has anyone made any threats against Mylow.  While he may have reasons for removing the vids, and he doesn't even NEED any reason, to propose that it was due to threats made HERE is wrong and inaccurate.

Would you care to quote/post the offending comments? If you research the claims, you will find them to be lacking and inaccurate.


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Re: Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim
« Reply #266 on: March 21, 2009, 10:18:51 PM »
Mr. Sterling:

 For your information,  I have also received plenty of threatening emails on this website for my invention that I posted last year. You just have to accept skeptics that do not believe in things like this.  I appreciate everything that you are doing with magnet polarities but I hate to burst your bubble.  As I posted on my website, about 15 years ago, I went through all of Howard Johnson's diagrams inside and out and went through dozens of different magnets.  I used C magnets on a disc just like he did. With a large C magnet to rotate the wheel, I did many, many tests from every different angle possible, moving the magnets both North and South, repositioning them.   The design he has will never work.  For all the testing I did on the magnet wheel, I found out that using strip magnets at a 45 degree angle on the disc, standing on edge, was about the only thing I could come up with to make the wheel turn using a large C magnet to push the strip magnets on the disc.  Again, I appreciate all you are doing to further free energy but I have been through this and I've done his design. With all this said and done, you will probably never get to see his machine and he will most likely come up with excuses all the time.  Furthermore, listening to his videos, every time he starts the disc you will hear some kind of starter motor noise in the background. Even if he does a demonstration on a glass table and he has some kind of starter motor, you will still not see it.

  As I told you over the phone I will be having Jim Dunn and Ted Loder down here to document my machine when it's ready - and that will be soon.  Good luck on your work.

James

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Re: Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim
« Reply #267 on: March 21, 2009, 10:24:54 PM »
1. I have *not* seen one person make a threat to mylow. Ask Stefan to find the proof, rather than believing mylow.

2. Rude? There are some people here making statements based on no information or references that could be rude, but it's mostly people pointing out information/data on events in the videos, and offering their interpretation of such data. Maybe you want a dictatorship where everyone only says what sterling likes.

3. Negative Karma?  Hell will freeze over when speaking truth is negative karma. How about prematurely declaring this as legit as collecting some negative karma.

PL

I know that my friend who visits this forum, has been threatened as well here..for shareing his results via email.

Just to let you know..

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I spoke with Mylow this morning, asking him why he took down the videos last night.  He said that he draws the line at his family being threatened.  I asked him what form that threat took.  He said it was something posted here at Overunity.com.


I'm going to be bringing this to Stefan's attention, mentioning three users in particular, who Mylow mentioned by username.

Sterling

G'day Sterling,

Rather than going to Stefan I suggest you click on to the names of the three users you were given and check out their last posts. If there is any truth in Mylow's allegations it should show up there without having to go through the entire thread.

Personally I have not seen anything that could even vaguely be considered a threat to Mylow or his family. But, I could have missed something.

I know you to be a fair man Sterling and I am sure you will check out these allegations and tell us the outcome, especially after making these accusations.

Hans von Lieven

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Re: Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim
« Reply #269 on: March 21, 2009, 10:34:20 PM »
Please let me know, if anybody from the forum here attacked Mylow and I will ban
him.
Maybe he did itvia Personal Mail or email ?

Please let me know.

Well, I was 2 days away and was there ever posted a video
that showed the motor turning and accelerating ?

Too bad he has removed all the videos.
In the reposted videos I don´t see a fully running motor,
just always some parts are missing.

Please post the URL of the full working motor video.
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.

 

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