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Offline ramset

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #900 on: January 23, 2023, 06:11:18 PM »
Mr.Wizard
Respectfully we don’t need hints and great volumes of literature !
Your friend vortex22.. who you said was aware ?
Seemed to arrive unaware?


We could continue to fiddle or point fingers until our extinction…


Please share a bit more detail ( even to help your “already aware” friend!


The need is great !
Perhaps another topic ?


I believe the open source hydrogen section here has several good moderator /experimenters ( Grumage and Jimboot?
And I see Dog one …also very very familiar !
Respectfully
Chet K
EDIT for below
Mr Wizard
I see you preach a Devine connection to prejudgement and condemnation ( swine ..? ..some weird type of Devine ?

IMO
It takes a teacher …or we could waste another decade ….








« Last Edit: January 23, 2023, 10:25:07 PM by ramset »

Offline whitelightningwizard

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #901 on: January 23, 2023, 09:38:13 PM »
Mr. ramset.

Respectfully what we need here are ANSWERS. For too long its been the blind leading the blind, going nowhere!

I point everyone to Walter Russell Cosmogony because by study of it you will get your own answers. No forum discussion required.
We all need to re-establish our connection with the Divine, to get the answers we seek!

What you expect me to do is spoon feed answers with no thinking involved. Don Smith, Zilano, even Stan Meyers never spoon fed.
There is a wizdom in this, not 'casting pearls before swine' as it were.

Vortex 22 can figure out Don Smith and Barbosa & Leal devices... surely WFC would be child's play. I was pointing out he already has the required concept!

If air contains water, why not just make an air motor? why bother with water fuel or hydrogen?
Once you see or learn of something better than what you have, why go back? Idk, but ppl do.

Best,
-wlw

Offline h20power

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #902 on: January 24, 2023, 06:47:18 AM »
https://www.philosophy.org/uploads/5/2/2/0/52207651/fulcrum_v1n2_august_1992.pdf

In October 1991 Stanley Meyer visited The University of Science & Philosophy (www.philosophy.org) formerly located at Swannanoa Palace.
Why?
In short, because Stanley believed the center of an atom was 'God' or a point of Omnipresent Universal vacuum aka "Stillness".
Dr. Walter Russell made this same claim decades before Stanley ever played with water, and his many books and lectures prove this point.
https://www.philosophy.org/store/p42/Space_and_the_Hydrogen_Age.html#/ published 1939!!!

So, if the goal of this thread is to Explain Stanley's technology... why not follow in his footsteps? perhaps follow his train of thought? and "ASK THE RIGHT QUESTION!"

A friendly tip to all on here.  ;D

-wlw


It's clear to me that you haven't read this thread as I am past Meyer now with my understanding of this technology in scientific terms and I shared this information with everyone free of charge. I did ask the right questions that allowed me to understand the science behind this technology and in this thread I am sure I even gave examples found in nature proving the theory I have for this technology, you know scientific proof?!


Now I will admit that I don't share everything that I am doing and that's because I worked hard to know what I know about this technology and after the video interview John Fraser gave of Gunther and I at the 2013 Global Breakthrough Energy Movement held in Boulder, Colorado, as I saw folks turn on me just because of the color of my skin. So, at that point in time when I realized that I was being singled out for my skin tone I basically refused to share anymore as I have just had enough already. I watch just whom folks wanted to be the one that brought this technology out and that someone quit this technology and moved on to something totally different several times never truly looking back at this technology ever again.


Then there are people like you whom come to my thread and just assume they know how this technology works moving to compare the technology to something it absolutely has no connections too. Then people like you will reach to unknows to sit in because it appears to be a safe place to sit back and hope someone like me will just give you a pass, NOT! In this thread I went over the science behind this technology and gave examples just like a good scientist is supposed to do. And to this date no one that I am aware of has reached the voltage levels I have reached with this technology and most still don't understand how to read the oscilloscope correctly in terms of science. I showed in this very thread just how this technology restricts the flow of amps flowing through the water bath and explained why the water never heats up with that explanation.


Since I went the route of making use of the scientific method it's a bit tough for someone to just come into this thread and point people in the wrong direction as again I gave examples. As for your being friends with Vortex 22 remember he ask me and not you. But in all truth I don't know either of you personally nor do either of you know me. Coming to this thread thinking pointing folks to an unknown truly isn't going to fly if anything to say about it I have.


In my point of view the reason why no one has duplicated this technology thus far is the fact there is so much bad information being put out about this technology designed to lead people away from just how it all works. Meyer himself was very good at hiding the technology in plain sight. Meyer made up words that only had meaning to him, made drawings that lied or left out the whole story, and went out of his way to make sure no one stole his work from him. That's the true Meyer not this figment of people's imagination that has been put in the place of the real man. But it wasn't wrong of him to want to profit from all of his hard work as capitalism would have it no other way, correct? When you think of things in the correct terms, you know, "Asking the right questions," you will start to see Meyer as just a man with a dream of having a successful business as he moved to change the world for the better. Unfortunately those that sell energy weren't ready to give up their primary cash cow back then and I really don't think they will ever be ready to part with that cash cow willingly of their own free will as long as there are profits to be made.


With this technology it is very hard to build a transformer to match a WFC properly. With all that bad and misleading information swarming around this technology it's very tough for people to ask the right questions let along answer any of them. I haven't found anyone who is willing to make use of the scientific method on this technology as that method will have one buying all the many tools they need, building one design after another until they get it right, and a whole lot more as it's a very long and costly endeavor. People in general are too afraid to fail.


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
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Offline Vortex 22

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #903 on: January 25, 2023, 02:50:01 PM »
But my friend, you already know how!

use DC Capacitor Electrons Captor, and connect it straight to plates in water. WFC is just air capacitor plates in water. u can make electrolysis with simple AV plug, which is open circuit.
no need to pull so many watts to make gas!  ;D

if you add neutral plates to the cell, not connected, a la JoeCell, then amps drop even more and produce twice the gas!
I have made HHO gas with 0amps input, many times.

Thanks be to Joe, the modern water master.
Good luck!
-wlw
Hi all

Fascinating stuff !!

My friend WLW,

Show us !!  Say 7 L per minute of GAZ production rate ? please

Thank you
Vortex

Offline Vortex 22

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #904 on: January 25, 2023, 06:16:11 PM »

All I need to know is
How to make a polar water capacitor in picofarads range ?
A detailed schematic ? Please

Best
Vortex 22

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #905 on: January 25, 2023, 09:36:18 PM »
Hi Vortex,

Easiest thing is buy variable air capacitor in pF range and drop it into water. why not?

or

do what John Lorenzen did. stack stainless steel plates, vertical orientation. see pics.

Anybody can do this.

Cheers, -wlw

Offline alan

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #906 on: January 25, 2023, 10:09:25 PM »
All I need to know is
How to make a polar water capacitor in picofarads range ?
A detailed schematic ? Please

Best
Vortex 22
Go for the steam resonator as described by Meyer instead, there are tons of hho generators on yt, but barely any low wattage voltage-watercookers.



Offline h20power

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #907 on: January 28, 2023, 01:52:56 AM »
All of this posting on my thread is a clear example of disrespect at it's finest and clearly shows something freely given is to be treated as it has no value.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #908 on: January 28, 2023, 02:42:52 AM »
All of this posting on my thread is a clear example of disrespect at it's finest and clearly shows something freely given is to be treated as it has no value.

It's unfortunate Ed.  Not sure a private thread would be any better.  You may want to use a blog
space like substack at some point.  Don't know.  Lots of riff-raff in the world these days.

I will say, your work has more value than anyone else I know in regards to taking Stan's work to
the next level.  I'm actually surprised you haven't taken this private and offline a long time ago.
I know Ronnie Walker did and he wasn't nearly as far along as you, at least not on the science aspect.

Offline whitelightningwizard

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #909 on: January 28, 2023, 03:17:37 PM »
Hi.

Is AIR fuel better than WATER fuel?
I think so.

Why not put a JoeCell on a car and get yourself an air motor? no fuel, not even water.

Once you know the possibilities, Stan Meyer stuff is not so impressive anymore.

Maybe I don't belong here??? Is freedom of speech a thing of the past?

-wlw

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #910 on: January 28, 2023, 09:11:02 PM »
Hi.

Is AIR fuel better than WATER fuel?
I think so.

Why not put a JoeCell on a car and get yourself an air motor? no fuel, not even water.

Once you know the possibilities, Stan Meyer stuff is not so impressive anymore.

Maybe I don't belong here??? Is freedom of speech a thing of the past?

-wlw


When you introduce a new idea to a group like this you do so by making your own thread and show respect to what others have or are trying to do. Free speech has nothing to do about it as it's all about showing the thread creators respect.


In this thread I posted the science behind this type of water for fuel technology. Just because you are too lazy to read what I posted or not bright enough to understand what I posted doesn't give you the right to come into my thread and trash it with other technologies you also haven't a clue in how they actually work. You don't know how a "Joe Cell" actually works, correct? Now I have a theory on how it works but this thread is about using high voltage potential differences to break the bonds of the water molecules not about the functionality of a "Joe Cell." Do you get what I am saying? This thread is on this one method to go about breaking the bonds of the water molecules started by Dr. Dingle of the Philippines but made legal by Stanley Meyer so that when his patents expired we all could jump into this technology. The problem is too much miss information has been put out concerning this technology. I am convinced some where paid to put out false information while others just didn't have the proper education needed to try and get into this technology.


As far as I know I am the only one that applied the scientific method to this technology which is why what is posted here in this thread is so different than anyone else's. Like I said before I provided scientific examples of the theories I have for this technology as proof of what it is I posted is true just like a good scientist is supposed to do. This isn't an easy technology to build correctly and I did not post exactly how to go about building anything as that in my view would be unfair to me. You see all can move to get this technology up and running as the patents have expired but what I found out when I went to the 2013 Global BEM held in Boulder, Colorado was racism is alive and well in this country. At that time everyone wanted Russ to be the one that brought this technology out as he looked like them as once folks saw my face practically all the support I was getting dried up over night even though I had just shown everyone something they had never seen done with this technology before in that I did put a high voltage potential difference on the electrodes of a WFC in a provable way. That is something I haven't seen anyone outside of myself do to this date since then.


Anyway I hope you understand my point of view on these matters as I am the thread creator and did the hard work of figuring out the science behind this technology and posted what I found out for everyone to have free of charge.


Shalom Everyone,
Edward Mitchell
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #911 on: February 04, 2023, 04:15:23 PM »

When you introduce a new idea to a group like this you do so by making your own thread and show respect to what others have or are trying to do. Free speech has nothing to do about it as it's all about showing the thread creators respect.


In this thread I posted the science behind this type of water for fuel technology. Just because you are too lazy to read what I posted or not bright enough to understand what I posted doesn't give you the right to come into my thread and trash it with other technologies you also haven't a clue in how they actually work. You don't know how a "Joe Cell" actually works, correct? Now I have a theory on how it works but this thread is about using high voltage potential differences to break the bonds of the water molecules not about the functionality of a "Joe Cell." Do you get what I am saying? This thread is on this one method to go about breaking the bonds of the water molecules started by Dr. Dingle of the Philippines but made legal by Stanley Meyer so that when his patents expired we all could jump into this technology. The problem is too much miss information has been put out concerning this technology. I am convinced some where paid to put out false information while others just didn't have the proper education needed to try and get into this technology.


As far as I know I am the only one that applied the scientific method to this technology which is why what is posted here in this thread is so different than anyone else's. Like I said before I provided scientific examples of the theories I have for this technology as proof of what it is I posted is true just like a good scientist is supposed to do. This isn't an easy technology to build correctly and I did not post exactly how to go about building anything as that in my view would be unfair to me. You see all can move to get this technology up and running as the patents have expired but what I found out when I went to the 2013 Global BEM held in Boulder, Colorado was racism is alive and well in this country. At that time everyone wanted Russ to be the one that brought this technology out as he looked like them as once folks saw my face practically all the support I was getting dried up over night even though I had just shown everyone something they had never seen done with this technology before in that I did put a high voltage potential difference on the electrodes of a WFC in a provable way. That is something I haven't seen anyone outside of myself do to this date since then.


Anyway I hope you understand my point of view on these matters as I am the thread creator and did the hard work of figuring out the science behind this technology and posted what I found out for everyone to have free of charge.


Shalom Everyone,
Edward Mitchell
Owner
True Green Solutions
https://gofund.me/94431e56

mr. h20power

your view, in my eyes, is very myopic.

I do know how a JoeCell works actually.
it is an optical transmutation device which Walter Russell described decades before Joe built one!

are you familiar with Lord Kelvins 'Thunderstorm'?
his water dropper experiment... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin_water_dropper

Explain to me, how does flowing water generate spark discharge? experiment proves flowing water makes lightning...

My only point here is ppl who experiment with water DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT IS. Maybe water is liquid electricity.  ;D

I won't bother you again on here. This is your territory I see.

Cheers,
-wlw

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #912 on: February 04, 2023, 04:48:16 PM »
I'm sure Joe's cell is fake, that was my conclusion  years ago. Zero-science device.

Offline h20power

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #913 on: February 04, 2023, 06:39:47 PM »
mr. h20power

your view, in my eyes, is very myopic.

I do know how a JoeCell works actually.
it is an optical transmutation device which Walter Russell described decades before Joe built one!

are you familiar with Lord Kelvins 'Thunderstorm'?
his water dropper experiment... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin_water_dropper

Explain to me, how does flowing water generate spark discharge? experiment proves flowing water makes lightning...

My only point here is ppl who experiment with water DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT IS. Maybe water is liquid electricity.  ;D

I won't bother you again on here. This is your territory I see.

Cheers,
-wlw


Yes this is my thread where I gave away the science I uncovered about this technology free of charge as notice the title says, "Stanley Meyer Explained." Now I will openly admit that I did not show how to actually get the technology up and running as I made no promise to do such a thing in the past as all I promised was if I got at the science behind this technology I would share it openly and trust me I did do just that complete with real world examples backing up the theory I came up with.


The problem as I see it is folks wishing to get this technology up and running don't have enough science under their belts and aren't willing to spend the amounts of money required to purchase the many tools, machines, and materials they will need to get this technology up and running. I have mentioned many times in this thread that one must get a "Differential Probe," to be able to read this technology as one would be working in the blind without one. But looking at the actions of others it's clear to me folks just don't have enough science behind them to know that to be a must have tool for working with this technology. You see due to the high voltages required to get this technology up and running a differential probe that can withstand these voltages is a bit pricy and folks just aren't willing to spend what it takes to get this technology up and running as that's not the only thing they will find really costly in dealing with this technology.
Everything you see I purchased in this thread others will have to purchase too if they truly wish to get this technology up and running. But as of yet I haven't seen folks move to purchase these must have items but only make excuses as to why they feel they do not need to purchase these must have items. As a result I feel only a hand full of people in this world are actually willing to do whatever it takes to get this technology up and running as I am to the point of moving towards mass production with this technology.


Meyer told many a lie that would allow him and him alone to be the only one that knew how to get this technology working properly as using materials off the shelf is just a lie to make folks think this technology is cheap to make and implement into todays existing fossil fuel driven technologies. Not even his twin brother seems to be aware of just how to get this technology up and running properly as Meyer didn't know about the science I posted in this thread so how could he teach it to his brother? Trust me I am fully aware that me saying such things triggers people to treat me poorly as these people just aren't smart enough to be able to asked the right questions let alone answer them. Why people never want to make use of the scientific method is due to the scientific method is just a very slow process of elimination that will require years of their time to get answers to any and all questions they ask about this technology. You see it took me over ten years to get at the science behind this technology and even more years to learn how to go about building everything properly as I started working on this technology in March of 2006.


So, if you wish to talk about the "Joe Cell" you should do so in your own thread as this thread is geared towards sharing the science behind Meyer's technology. For reasons unknown to me I am not allowed to filter out such irrelevant talks about other technologies outside of the voltage dissociation of the water molecules from this thread. For if you do understand the "SCIENCE" behind the Joe Cell technology I'd like to read about what you have to say but not in my thread that is aimed at sharing the science behind this water for fuel technology that makes use of voltage to break the bonds of the water molecules. You see I have a working theory on how the Joe Cell actually works scientifically but I'm just not interested in that technology enough to want to pursue it which is to actually say I'm not willing to spend money on it. I am being honest in saying I would like to hear what you have to say about the science behind the Joe Cell technology but not here on my thread. Don't be a chicken poop and put out what you are willing to share in your own thread showing what you figured out with scientific examples and proofs that show you do in fact understand that technology. But as of right now it's just words as you haven't shown anything that backs up your claims.



In any event I have chosen to put this water for fuel technology out and it will be as Meyer spoke about in that the cheapest technology will win out in the end. So, your Joe Cell is in direct competition with my efforts to bring this technology into the marketplace so may the cheapest technology win!


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
Owner
True Green Solutions
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