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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #825 on: September 06, 2022, 07:10:28 AM »
Well folks I'm still at it bringing dreams to reality. Here are the drawings along with the finished product, minus the wires & resin, for my latest transformer design. The technology is far more costly than I anticipated and as such I don't think anyone will be following my lead as things are simply too costly. As such I more than likely will be the only one moving forwards with this technology and it is my hope that people move to help with the cost of this technology so that it can see the light of day. I think I spent over $5k in this final push to get this technology up and running again.


Much work remains but I can honestly say I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. I have done what I can to allow folks to understand this technology but the tech is complicated so there is only so far I can go in trying to help others understand how this technology actually works as one seems to need to have followed in my footsteps in life to be able to perceive this technology with the proper understanding of the sciences involved.


I am moving forwards at my own pace which is basically saying I am moving at a pace I can afford, lol. With a little luck and a lot of support hopefully this technology will finally make it into our world.


Peace and shalom everyone,
Edward Mitchell
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #826 on: September 10, 2022, 03:15:35 AM »
Hello Everyone,


This transformer will be the largest VIC transformer I have ever made and moved forwards with to actually put wire in it. Right now I have to print out another bobbin holder for the CNC coil winding machine as the one I'm using now has a wobble that is unacceptable as I fear it will break the wire while winding the transformer. That print is going to take over 10 hours but it's being built my me at a cost I can afford and not some pricy machinist. This transformer represents years of work and study on this technology and will be a culmination of all I have learned about this technology.
Now since it is still a prototype it may or may not work but I am fairly sure that it will do something to get this technology moving in the right direction. One thing is for sure is this transformer took a lot of effort to build as I had to purchase a whole lot of new stuff just to be able to make it on my own. Like I said in the above post you are looking at around $5,000.00 USD effort to bring this transformer into our world. I got some help with the cost which I am truly grateful for as without help I more than likely wouldn't have been able to build this transformer until late next year some time or even the year after that. So to those that willing chose to help aid my efforts with this technology a big heartfelt thanks goes out to you all🥰[/font][/size][size=78%] . [/size]


If it works we will finally have an answer to just how efficient this technology is as I plan on demonstrating this even though I kinda already know it isn't a linear process as the electrolysis method is. Sorry to everyone for breaking the first WFC I got up and running correctly before I could take any measurements on efficiency of it. But I really got excited as the cell was operating producing gases and it wasn't getting hot. Some of you may remember this video of the little 3 resonant cavity up and running correctly: [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW78gKn1ZZ0[/size] But if not there it is again.


The reasons why it took me so long to get back on track is I got fed a lot of bogus information that I had to experiment my way out of from a lot of people we all trusted like Don Gabel and a few others. But the beauty of using the scientific method is in the end anything that doesn't work will be routed out through trial and error testing. The problem is the scientific method takes time and a lot of monies spent sometimes to get at the truth. But one thing everyone should know about me by now is I am persistent in my aims to get this technology into our world.


Please keep in mind that I do need help funding this technology as if this works it's only the beginning of the long road towards phasing out the use of fossil fuels.


Shalom Everyone,
Edward Mitchell
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #827 on: September 19, 2022, 06:12:01 PM »
Hello Everyone,


Just so we are all on the same page concerning this technology. In this video I show for the very first time ever, and since, true high voltage being applied to the water fuel cell: [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ6G4yIyLdY[/size]


How I talk about this technology is very different than how Meyer talked about this technology and the reason for that is I went after the science behind this technology. Most people don't know this but when Meyer passed away he was working on the injectors as they didn't work in the car and he was trying to figure out why it wasn't working. By follow the science the way I did I understand why the injectors didn't work for him.


In my showing of the science behind this technology you all have been shown that this technology is mimicking the earth's global electric circuit. You have been given a new theory that one day will be in the books of science that explains this technology in scientific terms. And I even went one further in comparing this technology to how plants break the bonds of the water molecules for the method of breaking the bonds of the water molecules is the same in that all that's being done is to take away the electrons from the atoms that make up the water molecules.


Right now I am busy working hard to actually bring this technology out but my funds are limited so I run around asking for support from those this technology will benefit when it does come out as it will be the general public that reaps the benefits of this technology thus they are the ones that should be supporting this technology if it is change they wish to see in their lifetime in the phasing out of the use of fossil fuels. I fully understand that if the general public gets behind this technology then they will have it if anything to say about it I have. I also understand that without support this technology is going to have a rough time making out to those that need tech like this the most.


With a little luck and a whole lot of work behind the scenes I am hoping this technology actually has a chance to make it into our world this time around. As shown in the photos I have what it takes now to move forwards with this technology. I feel the time is right for this technology to come out now as it does have some competition now that a company named, "Hysata" has come out with an electrolyzer with an efficiency of 98%. I am fairly sure this technology can beat those numbers but none have been able to show real numbers on this technology as it's not the easiest of technologies to get up and running properly and I hope to be able to change that soon.


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Edward Mitchell
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #828 on: September 22, 2022, 05:24:05 PM »
Efficiency of 98% is nothing, Meyer's method has infinite efficiency.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #829 on: September 22, 2022, 08:29:21 PM »
Efficiency of 98% is nothing, Meyer's method has infinite efficiency.


Hi Alan,


For right now, no one knows the efficiency of this technology as all that have managed to do this never let out any true numbers on the efficiency of just what it was they were doing. Meyer never allowed anyone to put anything to his voltage intensifier circuit so no verification of the process was ever done.


If I am able to get the technology up and running I'll more than likely be the first one to ever put out efficiency numbers on this technology just as I was the first to show true high voltage being applied to the water fuel cell in a provable manor back in 2013 at the Global Breakthrough Energy conference held in Boulder, Colorado. As of right now it appears I am the only one that is close to getting this technology up and running correctly as it's complicated and expensive to make in low volumes. Due to all the false information put out about this technology I doubt anyone besides me right now can weed through that false information right now and get this technology working correctly. Trust me I have been constantly looking around to see just what others are doing and for the most part each and everyone of them are making the same mistakes that will prevent this technology from working for them. As of right now there hasn't been a single person, that I know of, to show true high voltage being applied to the water fuel cell like I did at the conference and if you are counting that was over 9 years ago.


This technology is far from simple and like I said very costly to make in small numbers. Add that to it being very complicated and a lot of false information going around that will lead people away from how this technology actually works and it's easy to see why no one has demonstrated high voltage being applied to the water fuel cell as I have done. My making use of the scientific method truly sets me apart from everyone else that is working on this technology. It's sad but I have seen a few people stumble on how this technology actually works to only leave the room in search for a another solution as they had no idea that they solved it.


I just uploaded a new video on YouTube to get things started as I attempt to bring this technology out through True Green Solutions: [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsQloRRwlC0[/size]


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #830 on: September 29, 2022, 04:57:27 AM »
Hello Everyone,


Well when it comes to this technology there seems to be always something new to learn that will stall things out for a bit. I attempted to wind up a VIC transformer but I failed as the wire kept kinking up on me causing it to snap. I ended up tossing out over one transformers worth of wire as each time it snapped it was too short to be of use. But that was not the only problem I ran into. The fins of the bobbin would bend outwards causing the next slot in the bobbin to not take the same turns of wire and this problem gets progressively worse with each slot wound up. As a solution to the second mentioned problem I created some spacers to keep the fins from bending outwards.


As for the 1st problem well that's going to require that a lot more money to be spent as the only way to solve that is to purchase some wire tensioners, lab stands, and the claps that go with them. Due the complexity of this transformer I'll have to get several wire tensioners, and let me tell you those things aren't cheap. The over all cost of all I need cost more than the wire winding machine itself. So, basically I'm stalled for right now until I can get the things I need to keep things going. This truly sucks as I feel I am really close to being able to show a working prototype of this technology and finally be able to get some efficiency numbers on this technology. But I am reserved in my optimism as I have felt that I would have the technology up and running before only to have some new problem come up that needed to be solved as this technology has a way of humbling you bigtime. From what I know about this technology right now things do look like they will work this time around but I know what I know and I don't know what I do not know as this could open the door to a new problem that needs to be solved.


Understanding the science wasn't easy and building it correctly seems to be just as challenging, but I rest on the knowledge that I once got the technology up and running so it's only a matter of time before I get it up and running again. I went back over everything from when I got the technology working and had to make some changes to the WFC. Those changes cost about $550.00 if you include my labor on the materials purchased, tearing down the WFC, passivating the new SS, and putting everything back together again with some upgraded shielded high voltage connection wires. With this technology if you discover that something needs to be done you have to stop and make sure it does get done as there is no moving forwards until the problem is solved.


As I look around I can see that there are less than a hand full of people that are still actively working on this technology now that I am aware of. Most have long since thrown in the towel as how long can one work on a technology and have nothing to show for the time and money put into trying to solve it's many secrets? As far as I know there have only been two people that got this technology to work and I happen to be one of them. The other guy told me he could no longer afford to work on this technology. In total with what was spent on this technology this year I have spent around $90k on this tech since 2006. That alone should give you some idea why no one has yet to show a working prototype of this technology to this date as the cost of R&D to get something up and running are enormous. Once I realized this I simply stopped sharing what I learned about this technology as who out there is willing to spend this kind of money on something that may or may not work? For me I know the technology works but for all of you the video I posted simply didn't have enough information to convince you that the technology was in fact working. I showed no temperature readings, no put input power to gas out put readings, and have even been accused of having hooked up an air pump to the cell and some how managed to get the air pump to put out equally to the three resonant cavities. The other guy I mentioned also didn't take any measurements like this but at least people didn't accuse him of putting an air pump hidden out of sight someplace in his setup.


So, this time around I fully intend on doing things the right way as we all need documentation on this technology since Meyer never allowed anyone to hook up anything to his setups for second source verification. If I do this I will be the first to ever have done so and I am fully aware of this. But for now I am forced to take a break until I can afford to purchase the things I need to keep moving forwards with this technology. Any that would like to pitch in a helping had is more than welcomed to do so as not I really need a bit of help to be able to keep up the pace. The donation link is below my name.


Shalom Everyone,
Edward Mitchell
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #831 on: September 29, 2022, 07:09:44 PM »
Hello Everyone,


I just found this quote:
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After hours of discussion between ourselves, we concluded that Stanley Meyer did appear to have discovered an entirely new method for splitting water which showed few of the characteristics of classical electrolysis.
Confirmation that his devise actually do work come from his collection of granted US patents on various parts of the WFC system.
Since they were granted under Section 101 by the Us Patent Office, the hardware involved in the patents have been examined experimentally by the Us Patent office experts and their seconded experts and all the claims have been established.
“The basic WFC was subjected to three years of testing. This raises the granted patents to the level of independent, critical, scientific, and engineering confirmation that the devices actually perform as claimed.”
-Stated by Dr. Keith Hindley.
 
What does everyone think of these words? Note, this is coming from an eye witness to Stanley Meyer's invention as he is one of the people shown in this video: [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkjpVcsRQLc&t=545s[/size]


Anyway I thought everyone would like to read what a "Eye Witness," had to say about this technology.


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #832 on: October 24, 2022, 05:27:58 AM »
Hello Everyone,


Well, I'm trying to keep this technology alive and posted this video to let people see pure distilled water being broken down into it's component elements, IE, hydrogen and oxygen gas atoms with no added salts, acids, or bases to the water. [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo2ucBWEhLs[/size]


This is just the 8xa circuit  breaking the bonds of pure distilled water. Once I have the last few items I need that will allow me to wind up the VIC transformer I'll hopefully be able to show the WFC up and running correctly. Just know I attempted to wind the bobbin form and the wire kept getting kinked and then snapping  on me. I went through more than one transformers worth of wire and if you have been following this thread you know almost nothing for this technology is cheap. I have to get some wire tensioners to fix the problem and these things are costly. But in the mean time I have the 8xa circuit that I modified and can at least show what science says is impossible.


Hydrogen as a fuel is the right way to go in phasing out the use of fossil fuels. This technology is best suited to the tasked at hand in phasing out the use of fossil fuels, but what I find interesting is most people don't know that vehicles that currently run on fossil fuels are already running on hydrogen as all this technology truly does is switch the source of that hydrogen those vehicles need. To me this is just a sign that the dumbing down of the masses has been successful.


Take care everyone,
Edward Mitchell
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #833 on: October 25, 2022, 01:26:09 AM »
What are we ACTUALLY talking about here?


Injecting a high frequency/ high voltage A/C current into the water?

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #834 on: October 25, 2022, 01:29:09 AM »
There are recent patents being granted in many areas of this study.
Unfortunately Mr Meyers will have no mention


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2451910321000260

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #835 on: October 25, 2022, 08:47:35 AM »
What are we ACTUALLY talking about here?


Injecting a high frequency/ high voltage A/C current into the water?


Hello sm0ky2,


With this technology we the goal is to ionized everything that manages to get between the plates of the water fuel cell/capacitor or water injectors. With the blocking diode in the circuit there is no two way current, unless the diode as failed, so these two technologies can't be the same. I do know that McKane Lee has tried to re-patient the technology but I am not sure how far he got with his efforts to do so. But, I'd be willing to bet he didn't get very far as I'd be the first one on his list to make contact with telling me to "Cease and Desist" my work on what ever part of this technology he was trying to re-patient as I have a company for him to make contact with. I know many out there wish I'd throw in the towel like all the others have done and I am sure McKane is one of them due to him being apart of Max Miller circle of friends for a while.


I was sort of talking with a scientist about this technology and he was adamant about electrolysis being the only way to go about breaking the bonds of the water molecules when using electricity to do so. We spoke for a while and in our talks he told me that something must be added to the water to make it conductive for electricity to be able to break the bonds of the water molecules, so I made that little video to show him just what this technology can do to pure distilled water having nothing added to the water to make it conductive. Unknown to him the more pure the water is the better it works with this technology as it's being used as a dielectric.


With fuel prices on the rise and people starting to wake up to the fact our fossil fuel use has messed up the atmosphere some are starting to look for a way out of this mess.


The waveform does look like an AC waveform but then again I have never seen an AC waveform increase in voltages as it is pulsed before. But as I stated due to the blocking diode in the circuit current can only flow in one direction. Both the 8xa and VIC circuits have the blocking diode in their circuits. I wish people would perform a current flow analysis like I did on this technology so that they can see for themselves just what's going on with the isolated side of the transformer. Anyway, I won't hold my breath waiting for that to happen, lol.


The only thing I wish for right now is to have all the things I need to finish this technology and that no more surprises happen that cause me to stop and save up my monies before I can proceed forwards with this technology.


Shalom,
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #836 on: October 25, 2022, 05:30:29 PM »
The waveform does look like an AC waveform but then again I have never seen an AC waveform increase in voltages as it is pulsed before.

It's a reactive device with a natural response. Send a single pulse and see the natural oscillation around 0v. 60hz rectified and chopped up needs to be chopped up at the right frequency to get this synchronsm of voltage increasingly going up and down, the input voltage per pulse also increases.


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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #837 on: October 25, 2022, 06:01:09 PM »
The waveform does look like an AC waveform but then again I have never seen an AC waveform increase in voltages as it is pulsed before.

It's a reactive device with a natural response. Send a single pulse and see the natural oscillation around 0v. 60hz rectified and chopped up needs to be chopped up at the right frequency to get this synchronsm of voltage increasingly going up and down, the input voltage per pulse also increases.



Hi Alan,


In the graph each vertical line represent one square wave pulse being sent to the transformer as you get two pulses back by way of transformer action. There is Meyer's pulse doubling effect for anyone interested in knowing that.
You see you get one negative pulse and one positive pulse for every one square wave pulse sent to the transformer. Again with the blocking diode in the circuit there simply isn't going to be two way current flowing as that's not how diodes work. Basically you have two different sides of the transformer. One side is the charging side and the other is the discharging side all separated by a diode.


Meyer does try and show this but I think I am one of a very small few that understood just what he was talking about when he spoke of these drawings. Since the diode is either "On" or it's "Off" the setup is either charging or discharging and when it is at rest the voltage of the wfc will drop to the diodes switch on voltage.


But anyway I'm getting into how the technology works and really should just focus my efforts towards bringing the technology out instead. Once I get the last items I need to put everything together properly all should be a go for this technology now.


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #838 on: October 25, 2022, 07:41:18 PM »
Hi Edward, 
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But anyway I'm getting into how the technology works
That's especially the coils next to the 'natural ionization resembling earth's electric circuit'. :-)  pulse on: rising current, polarity. pulse off: declining current in the same direction, reversed polarity

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #839 on: October 26, 2022, 12:27:28 AM »
Hi Edward,


I don’t think many “scientists” would argue against ionic separation of the water molecule bond.


There is also chemical water splitting, and this can even be done by superheating the water/steam.


Thank you for the clarification, i.e. this is hv pulsed (half-wave) ionization.


And yes the less contamination in the water the less ionic losses, thus only water molecules will ionize inside the chamber. if salt were added to the tank, it may be more likely to produce chlorine gas and sodium hydroxide, than hho.