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Offline h20power

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #810 on: June 18, 2022, 07:25:28 PM »
Hello Alan,


That pdf was created on November 14, 2016 and I spoke of this way back in September of 2013 at the 2013 Global Breakthrough Energy Movement conference held in Boulder, Colorado. I first shared this with this forum in September of 2019. And if you noticed I first got the WFC working correctly way back in 2009/2010, but I still had much to learn as I allowed myself to be swayed by Don Gable's advice. I've been working on this technology since March of 2006. The reason why I waited so long to share my new theory was due to I already knew folks would be trying to tell me that I didn't create it first so I had to let a lot of time pass before sharing the theory in a public space. Now no one can make the claim they created this theory before I did, understand? I will have my place in the history books as no one can take that away from me.


As for Secure Supplies that guy is a thief as he had stolen the pictures I posted of my WFC and had them for sale on his site without ever making contact with me. I'd be willing to bet that Don Gabel has no idea that he is being said to be working with him with anything.


There are parts of this technology that Meyer himself didn't know as if he did he would have gotten the water fuel injectors working. Just think of it this way, why would Meyer be making a research facility if he already knew how it all worked? Wouldn't he have used that money to go into mass production instead?


As for your question asking me to explain how DC pulses become V+ and V- yes I could share this information but I have chosen not to. I know this makes folks upset at me but we all have our secrets. It took me a while to understand just what the transformer was actually doing and for the most part I learned how it all worked when I stopped working on the WFC and moved to try and understand the Gas Processor back in 2008. Again at the time when I wanted to study other things about this technology I was told by everyone that I was just wasting my time by the forum members.


When I read the SMTB I saw it for what it was as it was explaining in the longest winded explanation I had ever seen of the process of atoms going into ionization and ejecting their electrons. This ability I have comes naturally and at the time I assumed everyone else was like me, but a good friend of mines pulled me to the side and explained to me that everyone was not like me. Where I saw things so clearly everyone else saw nothing but gibberish. Once you take a very close look at how Meyer went about explaining this technology you may or may not be able to see that what he did was to hide the technology in plain sight coming up with his own terminology that was outside of main stream science descriptions. Meyer did a really good job of hiding the technology in plain sight as people to this day will talk about the things he said, just as you just did, without knowing the real science behind Meyer's made up terminology. Terms like, "Amp Leakage," I showed in the graph I shared on this forum when I took the sump of all the energies being read on the oscilloscope at the WFC. That in itself is something new that I shared that is totally outside of how Meyer talked about this technology as I had taken things back to a true scientific perspective. I don't know of anyone outside of myself that has ever thought of taking the sum of the energies being sent to the WFC, do you?


I posted a link just below my crowdfund link to give you a hint on a few other ways we know of in how to get the electrons away from their atoms but it seems that you are so unwilling to donate to the cause that you missed it. Heat can be used, radioactivity, light, high voltage potential differences, electro magnetism and other forms of strong magnetic fields, and more as acid/base reactions are just another way to get the electrons away from their atoms that most living things use to stay alive. In nature most of the time more than one method is used together to accomplish this.
Now I wouldn't recommend using strong radioactive elements to break the bonds of the water molecules in this fashion as I am pretty sure that will never meet accepted safety standards for use in vehicles. Making use of strong magnetic fields requires a lot of energy input so that's out. But mimicking how nature does things by photo bombardment with light and ionization do not require a lot of energy input and they can be used together to lower the energy requirements and/or target specific atoms that one wishes to ionize.


I'd be willing to bet that now that I have shared an approximant time I came up with the theory that those that wish to belittle me are now going to be conducting a massive search for someone else that may have came up with the theory before I did. But I have already run many a search so, good luck. In any event I learned of this connection as I was making use of the scientific method and very carefully observing the results of my experiments asking and answering questions the whole way. Now I have reached the point where I am ready to move this technology into mass production but I have to start out small as I simply don't have the funds to start off big. But since this technology can be utilized in so many different ways I am also having a hard time picking someplace to start. Our more pressing need is to take on climate change head on but I can't seem to gather the supporters I need to kick things off. I can only move as fast as my budget will allow me to move.


Something else to note is when I started this thread it was more or less a challenge where everyone had to do their own work and my mindset really hasn't changed all that much since then. Right now the world has to wait until I can get the last remaining things I need to build things correctly and hopefully scale things up soon afterwards.


Shabbat Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #811 on: June 18, 2022, 08:46:08 PM »
many people get lost in the electrolysis device
This is not as important as it seems.


It needs to provide enough gas to start the engine from battery current
And operate at full nominal production from alternator current.
Even at half of the carnot %, the heat side of the combustion equation for HHO
provides enough torque to run the engine at more HP than gasoline.


an all aluminum block, and radiator may be able to dissipate the heat im not sure
in all small (1-2HP) benchtop tests, the engines run, run the alternator, produce their own gas, and can drive a load, until they overheat, melt the seals, warp the pistons and covers, etc.


With a small motor this happens after about 2-3 hrs or the size of a 3-gal water tank.
some have tried upgrading to titanium piston heads and cylinders. For me this seems too $$$.
I have read enough reports of similar overheating on full sized vehicles to deter me from sacrificing a guinea pig car. Theres a lot of math involved, cylinder size, stroke:displacement, compression %, and so on. Some engines may be able to handle hho better than others. Lawn care equipment has a heavy compression, and since they overheat easily, I probably wouldnt hho a diesel.
A light weight, low-hp car, maybe look for aluminum blocks, upgrade to a new all Al radiator
Use a custom coolant


Getting to run is easy. You dont want to build up back pressure in your fuel system, but you want a flow-restrictor valve to fine tune it to the engine.
Once you get the right mixture the engine will idle loud and quickly, you have to adjust the idle down
back into the normal range. Watch the increase in gas when the alternator kicks in, if it gets too heavy turn up the resistance to the electrolyzer (or move the plates further apart, etc)


You need at least 2 (redundant) fire arrestors.


With a newer car, you will recode the ecu to lower the air intake,
it will burn a little lean and lower your hp per fuel ratio, but it’s possible.








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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #812 on: June 19, 2022, 02:36:56 AM »
many people get lost in the electrolysis device
This is not as important as it seems.


It needs to provide enough gas to start the engine from battery current
And operate at full nominal production from alternator current.
Even at half of the carnot %, the heat side of the combustion equation for HHO
provides enough torque to run the engine at more HP than gasoline.


an all aluminum block, and radiator may be able to dissipate the heat im not sure
in all small (1-2HP) benchtop tests, the engines run, run the alternator, produce their own gas, and can drive a load, until they overheat, melt the seals, warp the pistons and covers, etc.


With a small motor this happens after about 2-3 hrs or the size of a 3-gal water tank.
some have tried upgrading to titanium piston heads and cylinders. For me this seems too $$$.
I have read enough reports of similar overheating on full sized vehicles to deter me from sacrificing a guinea pig car. Theres a lot of math involved, cylinder size, stroke:displacement, compression %, and so on. Some engines may be able to handle hho better than others. Lawn care equipment has a heavy compression, and since they overheat easily, I probably wouldnt hho a diesel.
A light weight, low-hp car, maybe look for aluminum blocks, upgrade to a new all Al radiator
Use a custom coolant


Getting to run is easy. You dont want to build up back pressure in your fuel system, but you want a flow-restrictor valve to fine tune it to the engine.
Once you get the right mixture the engine will idle loud and quickly, you have to adjust the idle down
back into the normal range. Watch the increase in gas when the alternator kicks in, if it gets too heavy turn up the resistance to the electrolyzer (or move the plates further apart, etc)


You need at least 2 (redundant) fire arrestors.


With a newer car, you will recode the ecu to lower the air intake,
it will burn a little lean and lower your hp per fuel ratio, but it’s possible.


Hi sm0ky2,


I understand the technology far better than that. In order to keep it from burning up the engine the engines EGR system has to be modified and the exhaust gases need to be meter mixed into the intake system with a solenoid valve. For flashback protection that's what the quenching technology is for as there is no need for bubblers in this system. The Gas Processor will up the energy content by stripping electrons from the oxygen atoms entering the engines intake system and sending those highly unstable monatomic oxygen gas atoms into the combustion chamber and then spark igniting the mixture of unstable hydrogen and oxygen gas atoms. What this does is prolong the formation of the water molecules by forcing the hydrogen atoms to manufacture those missing electrons as it moves to form the water molecules with the oxygen atoms missing electrons.


When done properly converting a typical engine will transform the engine from being an air polluter into being an air cleaner as the gases coming out of the tailpipe will be cleaner than the air that was drawn into the engine. This has already been done and all I have to do is follow the one whom did this's lead. This is why I had said to everyone that I am the proper man for the task at hand as I have done my homework and I've been a mechanic for well over 30 years now so I know my way around engines. Meyer put it best in stating, "Success is measured by the determination to make it work... and successful we shall be," thus I know I will be successful as I am very determined. My determination should be clear by the amount of time I have been working on this technology and never throwing in the towel as I started in on all of this way back in March of 2006.


You are correct that some engine designs are better than others but I feel all types of vehicles can be converted from using fossil fuels to using this technology, be they on the land, floating in the water, or flying in the air, as basically all that is being done is switching the source of hydrogen. One must respect the fuel and all should go well. I am ready to start the long process of phasing out the use of fossil fuels but I know I can't do this alone, thus this technology will be creating many jobs as True Green Solution grows as a company. I will try my best to be a fair employer that shares the wealth with my employees and not steal their earnings as most companies do now days by following this man's lead: [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvHwyrem24M&t=82s[/size]


In order for this to take place at the speed needed to do something about our climate change problems I started a crowdfund so that people can donate to the cause and help this technology accomplish it's mission of putting people in full control of their own energy needs. It's not easy to start mass producing things and I really could use the full support of the people on this as after all it will be allowing them to become energy independent thus never having to pay for energy ever again so why not ask for their help in ensuring that this technology actually makes it to the marketplace this time around?
The task of phasing out the use of fossil fuels world wide is a daunting one but it must be done if our children are to have a future worth living. Someone in this world must therefore take on the responsibility of ushering this technology into our world and I feel I am that someone.


From my perspective the longer people wait to support my efforts to bring this technology out the longer the world will have to wait for an actual solution that will get us out of this mess. It's high time we head to Stanly Meyer's dreams of us coming together in one accord in support of this technology. Big things often have small beginnings and I feel this is the start of something big🥰.[/font][/size]


Shabbat Shalom Everyone,
Edward Mitchell
CEO and Owner
True Green Solutions
https://gofund.me/87a49b22
« Last Edit: June 19, 2022, 11:33:40 AM by h20power »

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #813 on: June 19, 2022, 06:37:11 AM »

It needs to provide enough gas to start the engine from battery current
And operate at full nominal production from alternator current.

The Battery and alternator are physically limited by the quantity of lead and copper, to the amount of available free electrons they can provide

the difference from 12v and 24v battery is physical size. the difference from car and truck alternator, is physical size

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #814 on: June 19, 2022, 02:39:41 PM »
Respectfully
"From my perspective the longer people wait to support my efforts to bring this technology out the longer the world will have to wait for an actual solution that will get us out of this mess. "


From the perspective of the people, they don't see what you have other than claims and old video's, people have to trust your word for it with their money without seeing your current progress, they only have  the (well written) pdf that explains it, they're one click away from continuing their day., but first they read on wiki to find out who Stan was.   
Do you know kickstarter? They present everything, and they reach their multi-million goals, but funders are promised to receive something according to a tier.   
But this tech comes with personal risks, so I understand your caution.   I'm sure everyone gets blown away when you show how you have progressed. Better stick to the plan but don't blame the people.   
Or you could start selling it as modules to get $ (like Meyer did) instead of tightly regulate its use and product release. I don't think it will make anyone rich, because if it is possible then it has to have been suppressed. JP Morgan underfunded Tesla after he asked 'where do we put the meter?'so he set him up for failure. 
The elite's power is their greed for money and their capital against us and our greed but without capital. But YHWH own's it all. In His kingdom gold is used a bricks.
my next 2ct's 
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #815 on: June 25, 2022, 08:07:48 AM »
Respectfully
"From my perspective the longer people wait to support my efforts to bring this technology out the longer the world will have to wait for an actual solution that will get us out of this mess. "


From the perspective of the people, they don't see what you have other than claims and old video's, people have to trust your word for it with their money without seeing your current progress, they only have  the (well written) pdf that explains it, they're one click away from continuing their day., but first they read on wiki to find out who Stan was.   
Do you know kickstarter? They present everything, and they reach their multi-million goals, but funders are promised to receive something according to a tier.   
But this tech comes with personal risks, so I understand your caution.   I'm sure everyone gets blown away when you show how you have progressed. Better stick to the plan but don't blame the people.   
Or you could start selling it as modules to get $ (like Meyer did) instead of tightly regulate its use and product release. I don't think it will make anyone rich, because if it is possible then it has to have been suppressed. JP Morgan underfunded Tesla after he asked 'where do we put the meter?'so he set him up for failure. 
The elite's power is their greed for money and their capital against us and our greed but without capital. But YHWH own's it all. In His kingdom gold is used a bricks.
my next 2ct's 
Best regards


Hi Alan and Everyone else reading this,


Yes, I know Kickstarter and they said due to the high level of frauds with this technology they no longer allow this technology on their platform. So, basically all those greedy short sighted people that came before me messed things up for this technology. Then people like Russ Gries, Max Miller, Daniel Donatelli, and others have made it so people don't know whom to trust and at the same time left a really bad stain on this technologies image in the public's mind.  Though from an old video this shows something folks have never seen before with this technology: [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW78gKn1ZZ0[/size]


In the video you can see many things that show this technology is very unlike standard electrolysis but sadly I broke the cell and the next few WFC's I made where influenced by Don Gable's information which basically ensured that they wouldn't work correctly. It took me a while to figure that out and now that I have folks no longer wish to support this technology and basically just choose to put their heads in the sand and hope that they will be okay as climate change keeps getting worse and worse.


There is no technology out there that I know of that is ready to take on the fossil fuel industry head on like this technology can. EV's are too expensive and require the quasi enslavement of Africans for cheap raw materials, labor, and prices. All the other technologies that I have taken a look at need quite a few years of testing to ensure it's safe for public use, and then implementing those other technologies would require a hard restart on how we are doing things today. With this technology one only needs a conversion kit for your vehicle and then your running around with nothing but water in your tank for fuel.


However there seems to be an increasing number of people that realize that I have solved this technology that reach out to me in an effort to steal the technology from me. They offer me totally one sided proposals where I'd be left in the poor house while they proper with this technology. And at the same time since I am stuck needing to get just a few more pieces of equipment to finish this technology my enemies rally against me in groves doing what ever they can to make it so people think I'm like them which is totally lost and confused about this technology. You can search the internet and see very clearly that there is no one that talks about this technology in the manor I speak of it. No one laying out hard provable science showing just what this technology is mimicking in nature, and no one with a video up showing just what it looks like when voltage is performing the work of breaking the bonds of the water molecules.


I know already that I need to start putting on a show for people but until I get the last remaining equipment I need I will be unable to do so as it's not easy to start over on things as I take out all of Don Gable's influence in how I was doing things. The blessed thing about making use of the scientific method is I am eventually able to see where things were done wrong and make corrective actions that are effective at getting things going down the right path again. All I can do now it hope people give me a chance to lead with this technology but also know I must keep what I know to myself as there are many that wish to see me fail and/or are very greedy and would thus make this technology for the rich only at a time when it needs to be made for the masses if we are to stand a chance at solving our climate change problems at speed.


Where I fault people in general is they don't actually take the time to look into what I've put out about this technology and see for themselves the science that I have shared is real. The graphs I've shared alone serve as a scientific proof if you believe in science. But in order to understand those graphs one also has to have a understanding of science to at least be able to know how to go about doing work problems and taking the sum of all energies. I find that people in general simply can't read or understand the graphs even though I made it very easy for people to be able to understand using colors and showing how to take the sum of energy being sent to the WFC from the transformer. I went step by step and people still can't understand what's being shown. I guess on this I can blame the dumbing down of society by the ruling elite for people's inability to interpret graphical data or even make sense of simple subtraction using the graphs I shared.  There is not a clearer showing of the science on just how this technology is able to break the bonds of the water molecules outside of Dr. Faraday's electrolysis method where voltage is being used to break the bonds of the water molecules by going after the atoms that make up the water molecules getting them to release their electrons.


When I say the world has to wait I mean it! as I will not be giving in to any of these one sided proposals. If I end up like Aaron Salter then more than likely this technology will be stalled for another ten or more years. In order for this technology to be able to enter into the fight against our climate change problems it needs the support of the people. If the people come together in one accord to back this technology they will have it as you have my word on that.


I hope this clears things up,
Edward Mitchell
CEO and Owner
True Green Solutions
https://www.gofundme.com/f/energy-independence-for-you-and-me

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #816 on: June 27, 2022, 08:49:49 AM »
I have seen this waveform on my oscilloscope many times. What's so special about it? This waveform shows the phenomenon of parametric resonance. With each cycle, the amplitude increases exponentially.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #817 on: June 27, 2022, 01:59:29 PM »
Parametric resonance of a parametric capacitor with a dC/dt component because the dielectric properties change with each pulse. Inductors have the same theory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parametric_transformer 
Thanks for mentioning it.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #818 on: June 27, 2022, 04:05:20 PM »
I have seen this waveform on my oscilloscope many times. What's so special about it? This waveform shows the phenomenon of parametric resonance. With each cycle, the amplitude increases exponentially.


What makes this waveform special is the way the circuit is set up as with the "Blocking Diode" in the circuit one electrode will always be negative and the other will always be positive thus the sum total of a perfectly balanced waveform will have no current flowing through the water bath contained in the Water Fuel Capacitor(WFC). This is why the water never heats up as described by eye witnesses to the technology working right in front of them describing what they observed: [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkjpVcsRQLc&t=221s&ab_channel=EdwardMitchell[/size]


The waveform shows scientifically current being restricted while allowing voltage to take over and perform the work of breaking the bonds of the water molecules by ionizing the atoms that make up the water molecules. You see if you keep raising the voltage being applied to the WFC you will hit the threshold for ionization of the atoms that make up the water molecules and the act of the atoms releasing their electrons breaks the bonds of the water molecules they are formed in. No more electrons leaves nothing left to hold the water molecules together as the atoms that make up the water molecules are sharing electrons and thus the water molecules simply fall apart as a result. The higher the voltage the greater the amount of ionization taking place between the electrodes which translates to more gas production as the voltages being applied to the WFC are raised.


Anyone that has taken the time to listen to one of Meyer's many lectures will have heard Meyer say, "While restricting the flow of amps we allow voltage to take over." With the waveform shown below I measured the amps flowing through the WFC to be just 0.6mA and my waveform wasn't fully balanced. I let the system run for 72 hours straight taking temperature readings every half hour and the temperature of the cell just followed the temperatures of the day. Thus the WFC wasn't performing any electrolysis which will produce waste heat that can be measured over time in use. When I was at the 2013 Global BEM a lot of people noticed that the WFC would be running all day and yet it wasn't getting hot.


Now it should be crystal clear just why this waveform is so special. You see the technology is mimicking the earth's Global Electric Circuit. What separates me from practically everyone that I have seen working on this technology is I am able to actually put a high voltage potential difference on the plates of the water capacitor as that scope shot shows 7.52kv of potential difference being applied to the WFC. The most I have ever seen anyone else do is just 1kv of potential difference and that's not enough to reach the threshold for ionizing the atoms that make up the water molecules, IE, the hydrogen and oxygen atoms.


Right now I just need more donations so that I can purchased the last remaining items I need to be able to build the transformers correctly. Through a lot of trail and error testing I learned just how to apply high voltages to the WFC, and solved the science behind how this technology works, plus found out just what this technology is mimicking in nature. I shared most of this right here in this thread. All I am asking is for people to join in and support the cause of phasing out the use of fossil fuels as that is exactly what this technology was created to do.


Imagine what we can accomplish if we all work together in support of my efforts to bring this technology into the marketplace so the phasing out of the use of fossil fuels can get underway. Together we can see this technology actually do something meaningful about our shared climate change problems and at the same time allowing people to take full control of their own energy needs.


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
CEO and Owner
True Green Solutions
https://www.gofundme.com/f/energy-independence-for-you-and-me

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #819 on: July 30, 2022, 08:18:05 AM »


I was doing a little research and found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJqEk1ouDuo...

It explains almost exactly what I have been stating about how the water molecules are actually broken down as all the plant does is reach in and take the electrons away from the atoms that make up the water molecules. It is this act of taking away the electrons that breaks the bonds of the water molecules and it maters not how one goes about getting at those electrons.


Dr. Dingle and Stanley Meyer did so by mimicking the earth's global electric circuit to ionize the atoms so that they would eject their electrons. This should allow everyone to see very clearly that what I have been saying about this technology over the years is 100% correct and true.

Shalom Everyone,
Edward Mitchell
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True Green Solutions
https://www.gofundme.com/f/energy-independence-for-you-and-me

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #820 on: August 07, 2022, 11:58:53 PM »
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@H2O Power, and sorry Chris, for deviating a bit from your original issue here!![/size]Hello Edward,Please, I always had this curiosity about the invention (or discovery) from Stanley Meyer...related to his Hydrogen separation from the Oxygen molecule in water...I have seen almost all videos related to his demonstrations, from his Dune Buggy to his Conferences...his plans, his Patents, his circuits, etc,etc.And so, I believe if there is someone qualified here to respond it is you...since I have read most of your articles and posts here.There is a pretty short video where he demonstrates making the Hydrolysis on one small clear plexiglass tank with a gauge and a valve on top, attached to a small torch...We can see he haD one of those analog, old Signal Generators with the old electrical gauges (V.U)...where He slightly turns its knob and it starts the process...bubbles start and pressure gauge starts moving fast to max...My question is pretty simple:The whole "secret" of Stan Meyer would not be that He actually found the "perfect" Harmonic frequency?, which could be in a short range of the last 4 or 5 digits in a huge number?In my opinion, (and you are free to correct me at any time) He was able to do this fission of H2O, without "much effort", without huge voltages, without such huge frequencies or high amperage...just the right number...actually taking place just like a "cold fusion" takes place?Maybe since I am a fan of the movie "Chain Reaction"...where Keanu Reeves by accident finds the perfect "tune" or the perfect harmonic frequency number...where the whole process starts to go much faster and very stable...that was coming from his Lathe cutting some metal...hahahaRegards and thanks for all you do, Sir!!Ufopolitics




When it comes to Meyer's technology most of what you will find in other forums from other people is just wrong as most of the time they don't run their experiments properly to be able to even duplicate their own results. I just posted a video above that shows just how plants break the bonds of the water molecules that moves to prove what I have been saying for all these years now is totally correct.


The Water Fuel Cell is a variable capacitor so right off the bate that tells you there is no one frequency to rule them all. As the device produces gases those gases displace the water that is in-between the electrodes which is dielectric material thus changing the capacitance of the resonant cavity. This is the primary reason why Meyer's circuit has a method to lock on to and maintain resonance for as the voltages are raised or lowered changes the rate at which the water is being broken down which in turn changes the capacitance of the WFC. It's complicated but I think you get the point.


I too love the movie "Chain Reaction" but that's Hollywood and this is reality. In reality what's being done is something modern day science missed when they looked into how a plant breaks the bonds of the water molecules as there is a pattern they missed. That pattern is, "Water is being broken down by taking the electrons away from the atoms that make up the water molecules." You see it is that act of taking those electrons away from that atoms that breaks the bonds of the water molecules. I found out that this pattern goes beyond just water molecules as any molecule can be broken down this way. Seeing patterns is something I'm pretty good at as well as knowing how to go about asking the right questions and then answering those questions I asked.


I have created a theory for this and hopefully soon it will be in the books of science for all to learn from and make use of complete with my ugly mug right next to it. Just to keep folks from stealing my theory I didn't tell anyone about it for a great period of time before finally talking about it just a few years ago as people love to say they thought of something first just to steal someone's spot in the lime light especially when there is money involved. I published the theory and then just let it sit for several years before talking about it with anyone.



From my observations Meyer himself didn't fully understand this technology as he made some mistakes that prevented some of this devices from working properly. Now given more time I think he would have solved this but he wasn't given any more time. Then years later comes along someone like me who loves how the scientific method works and decided to apply it to this technology with open eyes. I had to go over photosynthesis again but asking some very different questions than those that came before me did as I suspected they missed something profound and I was right as they did miss something. You see too many people have stumbled upon this technology and gotten it to work for it to be something fraudulent so the technology must lie in a place where science has yet to figure out. Once I found this pattern I knew I had cracked just how this technology actually works. Then I was able to go over Meyer's part of this technology again but with a full understanding of how it was able to break the bonds of the water molecules in a way that was outside of Dr. Faraday's electrolysis method using electricity.


It requires a high voltage potential difference as that's how nature does it as thunderstorms break the bonds of the water molecules in practically the same exact way by ionizing the atoms of the water molecules getting them to eject their electrons and as I stated it is that act of removing the electrons that breaks the bonds of the water molecules and note it matter not how one goes about removing those electrons as the result is always the same as you will get hydrogen and oxygen gases plus the creation of an electric charge. You see with the water molecules the atoms are sharing electrons and if those electrons are taken away there is nothing left to hole the water molecules those atoms formed together and they simply fall apart as a result. I saw this pattern first in plants and then expanded my question to include other ways we know about in getting the electrons away from their atoms and that's when I figured things out as all of those ways worked to break the bonds of the water molecules. I mean the proof was all around us as we just had to ask the right questions. A lot of folks on this forum made fun of me for stating that this technology is simply mimicking the earth's Global Electric Circuit, but now that I have persisted for so long it seems I won out as many people can now see that I was correct in saying that as when they take the time to compare Meyer's "Voltage Intensifier Circuit" to the earth's "Global Electric Circuit" they can see they are a direct match.


It turns out that hydrogen is the fuel of choice for all life on this planet as without it nothing would be alive today. Even in places where there is no sunlight life can thrive if it has heat, minerals from the earth, and hydrogen. So, it's high time us humans got with the program as hydrogen is the fuel of choice for all life on this planet, thus hydrogen is the fuel of the future!


What I have stated about how this technology works is 100% true but know that it's not an easy task to perform. I like to think of it as the opposite of electrolysis as electrolysis is simple and this technology is complicated. A small mistake with this technology and it simply will not work as mimicking nature has to be done correctly in order to do so. Long ago I use to share practically everything in real time as I learned it but after dealing with people like Steve of Ionizationx, Russ Gries of the RWGresearch, Max Miller of Irondmax forum, Aaron of the Energetic forum, and a lot of others I learned through the school of hard knocks to stop all that sharing as there is nothing like going to someone's website and seeing your design up for sale without that website ever making contact with you, SecureSupplies, to make you pull back on all of that sharing stuff. So, you can thank them for me stopping all the sharing of information as I proceeded to learn just how this technology actually worked.


Sorry about the rant as it just slipped out, but I hope from my explanation you now better understand how this technology works as it's just mimicking how nature does things. And that video above really nails it for how a plant goes about breaking the bonds of the water molecules but note you must keep this question in your mind to see it, "How does a plant break the bonds of the water molecules?" You don't have to follow along and see what it does with the electrons or even the hydrogen atoms as that's passed where the question was actually answered. As the plant just reached in and took the electrons away from that atoms that make up the water molecules, IE, hydrogen and Oxygen atoms. Sure nature can be difficult to mimic but that's where the solution to this water for fuel technology is to be found.


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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #821 on: August 11, 2022, 03:52:39 AM »
this last diagram is an important one

free demonstration of nature for anyone to observe

Tesla went to great lengths to capture free electrons / electron extraction

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #822 on: August 17, 2022, 09:43:40 PM »
this last diagram is an important one

free demonstration of nature for anyone to observe

Tesla went to great lengths to capture free electrons / electron extraction


Hello Massive,


You are very correct as it was something I too never thought about with these different technologies. Nickola Tesla was extracting energy from the earth's global electric circuit while Dr. Dingle and Meyer were mimicking the earth's global electric circuit electronically. Both technologies will radically change the way the world does things right now as Tesla's method would allow EV's to be the thing and the water for fuel technology will totally phase out the use of fossil fuel use. I like the Water for fuel technology better as it's the only one that will allow air travel to keep going on as is as all that will be done is switching the source of hydrogen that the air ships use.


Now that more than a few companies are switching over to burning hydrogen with their engines I should be able talk to them and get this technology into the marketplace as it's clearly better and more cost effective than having to highly pressurize pure hydrogen and build fueling stations when this technology will create the hydrogen their engines need on demand directly from water. No trucking hydrogen around, no hydrogen storage facilities, and no hydrogen fueling stations.


I do recall Tesla having a remote controlled boat powered by his technology and a EV but it would seem that technology died when he did as I have never heard of it again ever since. It's kinda sad if you think about just how many technologies have been put down so that they could have just one bridge around London so to speak isn't it? The reason why I mention the London Bridge is for the longest time that was the only bridge to get across the water, but not because they couldn't build any more bridges but because those that owned the bridge simply paid everyone off whom wanted to build another bridge. They even bribed a sitting King to not build a bridge when he wanted to do something about the traffic jams on the  bridge which took a long time to get across the bridge. So, for years those who owned the bridge paid everyone off so that they could keep the money rolling in.


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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #823 on: August 20, 2022, 11:16:06 PM »

one good question to ask :  What does voltage do ????       

ANSWER = WORK!!!

so simple and the demonstration is right there for anyone to see. get to close and itll cook ya

Remember this years ago now?  what is the HV doing to the car chassis for a split second ? .... and then V drops back to zero , back to equilibrium.  ....... (Diodes do the same thing and switch off, yessir , HV diodes)
Its the same thing but man made environment.  Lightning hits a lightning rod on a high rise building , then thru earthing cable to ground, same thing but natures demonstration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve6XGKZxYxA

have good day Ed

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #824 on: August 21, 2022, 10:34:41 PM »
Here is a video that Max Miller put out recently that shows something new at the end of the video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfPGX2GWWPE&t=215s&ab_channel=irondmax But note Max Miller is still in full block mod when it comes to me as I posted what is shown below on this video but if you take a look now it no longer exist.


Trying to get around all of this blocking is tough but I think I am managing to break through now as people like him have absolutely nothing to show now while I am making great strides in showing just how the science behind all of this technology actually works.


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