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Offline h20power

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #780 on: May 06, 2022, 04:15:26 PM »
Hi Edward, 
people want to see bubbles before they consider donating. 
I am sure that the tech works, both output coils counter each other by mutual inductance when current wants to go, while voltage is allowed by transformer action of the two output coils added upon the voltage of the copper secondary coil. 
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I'm not sure about that as I showed this video years ago and got zero support, but I did get a lot of people accusing me of cheating: [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW78gKn1ZZ0[/size] I showed this video as it was the first time I got the technology running correctly. It has taken me some time to get the needed machines to be able to make the transformers in such a way as they don't short out on me and right now I just need one more machine and I should be able to go into a limited production with this technology.


There are just a two of us working on this technology that have managed to get this type of gas production with this technology that I am aware of. Just like me he too got accused of cheating and eventually he ended up throwing in the towel due too all the negativity he got from the forums. These transformers are tough to make correctly and it gets old having them short out on you all the time, but for me it's just another thing I have to learn and overcome. It's tough to move to the next level as trying to get the voltage to go to infinity you will run into all sorts of problems as the components must be chosen to handle the voltage increases. I fried many blocking diodes before finding one that would withstand the voltage levels and not burn out on me. Then I had to figure out which coating on the wires worked best with high voltage, still a work in progress but I think I got it well enough to reach the next level now. Then the resin used to seal the air out and keep the wires from moving cost simply went through the roof. I managed to get my hands on some but at a really high cost and I didn't get all that much of it. Plus the resin has a shelf life in that you must use it within a certain time frame typically 12 months or the stuff goes bad. I think the next build should do the trick but only time will tell.


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
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True Green Solutions
https://www.gofundme.com/f/energy-independence-for-you-and-me
 


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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #781 on: May 06, 2022, 04:44:45 PM »
Looks good, are those amps going into the cell or into the primary coil? 
Do you have progress to show from a later moment? 

If you can feed the gas into a generator and power  a device, while monitoring VIC (input)  and device (output) power, people will be convinced that your claims are true. 

You've added more  info to your post   Show a unit in action to get more funding. 
Can you confirm by now that LCL and molecular resonance is involved? 
How would you go to infinite voltage? By frequency or by dielectric voltage build up on the wfc? 
are magnetically coupled, not capacitively; and to increase output voltage pulses.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #782 on: May 06, 2022, 06:35:55 PM »
Looks good, are those amps going into the cell or into the primary coil? 
Do you have progress to show from a later moment? 

If you can feed the gas into a generator and power  a device, while monitoring VIC (input)  and device (output) power, people will be convinced that your claims are true.


Thanks Alan,


No not at this time as I must build the new transformer before I can get back to seeing if I can improve upon those results. Meyer stated in several of his lecture videos that voltage can take off to infinity if the electrical components allow it too. As I kept testing things out figuring out what worked and what didn't I'd be able to increase the voltage going to the cell. But with each new build the cost kept increasing basically slowing me down quite a bit actually. The needed component to be able to handle these high voltage potentials have a lot higher cost to them. With a lot of trail and error testing I kept increasing the voltage being applied to the water fuel cell but I reached a sticking point and only now do I feel I have learned how to overcome this. I stopped sharing any of these new improvements once I noticed that each time I would share an increase in voltage being applied to the water fuel cell it was met with hostility from many of the forum members as these new voltage levels were so much higher than what they were achieving with their work. I think the last scope shot I shared was me getting the voltages up to 8.8kv of potential difference and the closest person I have seen to this was just at 1kv with a similar WFC size. My success generally made folks upset so I stopped sharing my results but as I stated I did reach a sticking point.


To increase the voltage going to the cell all one has to do is increase the voltage they are sending to the primary coil. But what I have stated in this thread is the truth on how this technology gets voltage to perform work. The problem I see in people is they never asked what work was voltage performing? The work voltage is performing is ionizing the atoms that make up the water molecules getting them to release their electrons. If you get the atoms to release their electrons then the water molecules they have moved to form simply fall apart. 


What most don't know is each time I'd figure a way to increase the amount of voltage being applied to the cell I'd find myself needing to get a new differential probe as I would reach it's limit. I now have three differential probes due to this. These differential probes are costly but if I wanted to proceed I had no choice but to buy them. The differential probe I have now is capable of reading up to 15kv and for reasons unknown the company that sold these probes seems to have went out of business now. Meanwhile back on the forums people were still arguing if the needed to get a differential probe or not as they didn't understand why such an expensive probe had to be used for this technology.


This is all part of making use of the scientific method as it can be costly to keep moving forwards but it must be done or you are stuck. For me this meant a lot of down time as I had to stop and save what little monies I had to buy the things I needed for this technology so that I could move forwards. The other guy I mentioned told me that this technology was simply getting to expensive for him and that with all the constant hate he didn't see the point of moving on anymore with this technology as it just didn't seem to get the support of the people he thought it would do. I am starting to feel the same way as people in general just can't get pass the propaganda put out by those that sell energy telling everyone that this technology violates the laws of physics. The reason why their propaganda is so effective on people is they have little to no understanding of physics and those that do never learned how to think outside of the box when it comes to learning new things that are not taught in the books they read.


People get made at me for various reasons but mostly it's because they can't achieve the results I have been getting as that video may be old but only one other person has managed to match that gas output and in fact he even beat my gas output numbers as he had more cells than I did at the time. It makes you wonder though in why these people even bother to wake up in the morning if all they are going to do is running around hating on people doesn't it as can't they find better things to do with their time? I find now that the one thing that frightens them is me achieving success in being able to actually push this technology into the marketplace as that really seems to scare the crap out of them. It's as if they put all of their monies into fossil fuel stocks and thus have a vested interest in seeing that those working on this technology and having limited success stop what they are doing so they don't lose their shirts.


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
CEO and Owner
True Green Solutions
https://www.gofundme.com/f/energy-independence-for-you-and-me

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #783 on: May 07, 2022, 11:09:54 PM »
Hi

This is very promising technology!!!

Dear Sir,
Where can I find a detailed instructions on how to build a WFC? Stan Meyer water fuel cell capacitors
The 12 arrays of water capacitor?

Thank you
God Bless You
Merci

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #784 on: May 09, 2022, 06:02:30 PM »
We all know how to charge a water capacitor to it's voltage dielectric breakdown ! ! ! There is no magic about that

We can do that using only  milli amps.
But it's possible to do that using only voltage and zero amps. I have done that many times with the mains ( 220 v ac / 50 hz)

So it makes sense to try it using high voltage and high frequency
! 10 kV / 30 kHz !!!

But
Can we have the same results using only 220 v and 50 Hz ?


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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #785 on: May 10, 2022, 03:46:48 AM »
We all know how to charge a water capacitor to it's voltage dielectric breakdown ! ! ! There is no magic about that

We can do that using only  milli amps.
But it's possible to do that using only voltage and zero amps. I have done that many times with the mains ( 220 v ac / 50 hz)

So it makes sense to try it using high voltage and high frequency
! 10 kV / 30 kHz !!!

But
Can we have the same results using only 220 v and 50 Hz ?


If you build a cell with the plate spacing really close say around .001" then that might be possible, but for a cell built to what Don Gable shared with us works only when the voltage potentials are 1kv per resonant cavity. So, if you have a WFC with 12 resonant cavities then it will require a minimum of 12kv of potential difference to get it to start working as each resonant cavity in the series array needs 1kv to reach the threshold for ionization of the atoms that make up the water molecules, IE, hydrogen and oxygen atoms.


But at any rate what you are speaking about would need to be tested in the real world not just talked about in order to know if it would work or not, but the waveform will still look like the one I showed at that is the primary means of restricting amps from flowing through the WFC. I ran a test that showed a drop in the required voltage needed that had a plate spacing of 0.032" instead of Meyer's 0.095". I have even built a cell with 0.010" plate spacing as shown below. Basically what it all comes down to is learning how to build the transformers correctly and that will only come from trial and error type testing the old fashion way.


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
CEO and Owner
True Green Solutions
https://www.gofundme.com/f/energy-independence-for-you-and-me

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #786 on: May 10, 2022, 04:37:27 AM »

If you build a cell with the plate spacing really close say around .001" then that might be possible, but for a cell built to what Don Gable shared with us works only when the voltage potentials are 1kv per resonant cavity. So, if you have a WFC with 12 resonant cavities then it will require a minimum of 12kv of potential difference to get it to start working as each resonant cavity in the series array needs 1kv to reach the threshold for ionization of the atoms that make up the water molecules, IE, hydrogen and oxygen atoms.


But at any rate what you are speaking about would need to be tested in the real world not just talked about in order to know if it would work or not, but the waveform will still look like the one I showed at that is the primary means of restricting amps from flowing through the WFC. I ran a test that showed a drop in the required voltage needed that had a plate spacing of 0.032" instead of Meyer's 0.095". I have even built a cell with 0.010" plate spacing as shown below. Basically what it all comes down to is learning how to build the transformers correctly and that will only come from trial and error type testing the old fashion way.


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
CEO and Owner
True Green Solutions
https://www.gofundme.com/f/energy-independence-for-you-and-me
Thank you so much !!!

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #787 on: May 10, 2022, 07:16:30 PM »
The best materials used for WFC construction, according to the water pH level?

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #788 on: May 11, 2022, 12:44:07 AM »
The best materials used for WFC construction, according to the water pH level?


The best materials for the housing to use are Delrin, Acetal, and Nylon, but you can also use some Acrylic so that you can see things but it is not necessary. For any metal that comes into contact with the water you must use Stainless Steel.


In the future True Green Solutions will be offering kits that will allow people to become energy independent but for now I must keep to trying to raise the capital I need to make this dream happen.


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
CEO and Owner
True Green Solutions
https://www.gofundme.com/f/energy-independence-for-you-and-me

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #789 on: May 11, 2022, 04:01:59 PM »

The best materials for the housing to use are Delrin, Acetal, and Nylon, but you can also use some Acrylic so that you can see things but it is not necessary. For any metal that comes into contact with the water you must use Stainless Steel.


In the future True Green Solutions will be offering kits that will allow people to become energy independent but for now I must keep to trying to raise the capital I need to make this dream happen.


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
CEO and Owner
True Green Solutions
https://www.gofundme.com/f/energy-independence-for-you-and-me
It's very nice to hear from you!!

Thank you so much!!
I pray for you success !!!
God Bless You

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #790 on: May 12, 2022, 11:46:13 PM »
Awesome, good job. 
Yah bless.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #791 on: May 14, 2022, 08:46:47 AM »
Thanks for the show of support and with that I will share something I just figure out not too long ago.




Well, in this post I have some good and bad news depending on your current level of involvement with this technology. It seems the gap between the electrodes was called out wrong by Don Gable as it conflicts with what Meyer has written in the technical brief. This explains a lot to me in what I have been seeing with my experiments in that it requires a whole lot of voltage to get the WFC up and running correctly. The first time I got the technology working with my little three cell setup the plate spacing was just 0.0320". Then came Don Gable telling us the plate spacing was supposed to be 0.095". Now for those of you that don't know the larger the distance between the electrodes the higher the voltage requirements will be to get to the threshold of ionization for the atoms will be. This has cause me to really design and build the transformers to a degree I don't see many others are capable of. Learning how to design and build a high voltage transformer takes a good bit of study and practice to do correctly. The reason why such high voltages are needed is directly due to Don Gable telling everyone that the space gap was supposed to be 0.095".


Now we can't blame everything on Don Gable as we all should had done our own reading very carefully of all of Meyer's material on our own so in essence we have only ourselves to blame for being so trusting and not doing our own work. I stumbled across this while looking for more information on Meyer's gaseous injection system, didn't find anything, but that is when I read this.


As for me I should have listened to what my experiments were telling me as I did get the technology working with a space gap of just 0.0320". So, the good news is that now I have it in writing what the gap between the electrodes is supposed to be but the bad news is Don Gables stuff is in a most of my designs and I suspect this is the same for most of you with your builds. Now you will still have to master how to design and build high voltage transformers but they will no longer require to go much over 20kv. I think the WFC I currently have will require around 14-18kv just to get the process started. Thus my reaching 10kv was nice but not good enough to start the electrical polarization process due to the space gap between the electrodes was too large.


Now my reason for looking into the gaseous injection system is that is more than likely the direction I will be heading in with True Green Solutions, though I have other things planned as well with this technology to get into. I have a lot of work ahead of me but I am willing to get it done as the world needs this technology now more than ever. I come on this forum now seeking the support of the people as it's going to take a grass roots effort to topple the fossil fuel industries.


Again thanks for the show of support everyone,


Edward Mitchell
CEO and Owner
True Green Solutions
https://www.gofundme.com/f/energy-independence-for-you-and-me
« Last Edit: May 14, 2022, 03:58:48 PM by h20power »

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #792 on: May 14, 2022, 12:58:16 PM »
Thanks for the show of support and with that I will share something I just figure out not too long ago.




Well, in this post I have some good and bad news depending on your current level of involvement with this technology. It seems the gap between the electrodes was called out wrong by Don Gable as it conflicts with what Meyer has written in the technical brief. This explains a lot to me in what I have been seeing with my experiments in that it requires a whole lot of voltage to get the WFC up and running correctly. The first time I got the technology working with my little three cell setup the plate spacing was just 0.0320". Then came Don Gable telling us the plate spacing was supposed to be 0.095". Now for those of you that don't know the larger the distance between the electrodes the higher the voltage requirements will be to get to the threshold of ionization for the atoms will be. This has cause me to really design and build the transformers to a degree I don't see many others are capable of. Learning how to design and build a high voltage transformer takes a good bit of study and practice to do correctly. The reason why such high voltages are needed is directly due to Don Gable telling everyone that the space gap was supposed to be 0.095".


Now we can't blame everything on Don Gable as we all should had done our own reading very carefully of all of Meyer's material on our own so in essence we have only ourselves to blame for being so trusting and not doing our own work. I stumbled across this while looking for more information on Meyer's gaseous injection system, didn't find anything, but that is when I read this.


As for me I should have listened to what my experiments were telling me as I did get the technology working with a space gap of just 0.0320". So, the good news is that now I have it in writing what the gap between the electrodes is supposed to be but the bad news is Don Gables stuff is in a most of my designs and I suspect this is the same for most of you with your builds. Now you will still have to master how to design and build high voltage transformers but they will no longer require to go much over 20kv. I think the WFC I currently have will require around 14-18kv just to get the process started. Thus my reaching 10kv was nice but not good enough to start the electrical polarization process due to the space gap between the electrodes was too large.


Now my reason for looking into the gaseous injection system is that is more than likely the direction I will be heading in with True Green Solutions, though I have other things planned as well with this technology to get into. I have a lot of work ahead of me but I am willing to get it done as the world needs this technology now more than ever. I come on this forum now seeking the support of the people as it's going to take a grass roots effort to topple the fossil fuel industries.


Again thanks for the show of support everyone,


Edward Mitchell
CEO and Owner
True Green Solutions
https://www.gofundme.com/f/energy-independence-for-you-and-me
Hi Edward,
It's very nice to hear from you!!!

Thanks
God Bless You
Rgrds

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #793 on: May 14, 2022, 04:29:47 PM »
Hi,
It's possible to use this HHO gaz for cooking food or heating?

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #794 on: May 14, 2022, 06:35:30 PM »
Hi,
It's possible to use this HHO gaz for cooking food or heating?


This will be a direct replacement for most of what we use fossil fuels for now. So, yes we can cook our food, heat things, wield, and much much more as again with fossil fuels it's the hydrogen we are actually making use of and this technology gives us the hydrogen we need from a different source, IE, just natural water. It's the most transformative technology that I have ever come across. It's hard for most folks to imagine this technology replacing everywhere we use fossil fuels for when it comes to transportation, power generation, and more as it just seems too large for a small technology to be able to accomplish such a great change in the way we do things.


Hydrogen already runs the world as nothing that I know of would be alive today without hydrogen.


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
CEO and Owner
True Green Solutions
https://www.gofundme.com/f/77uvw4-energy-independence-for-you-and-me