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Offline h20power

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #690 on: November 02, 2021, 12:04:27 AM »


"All  Molecules  can  be  separated  into  their  component atoms  by  taking  away  the  electrons  from  the  atoms that  make  up  the  molecules."

This is the theory I came up with after studding how Dr. Dingle, Stanley Meyer, and a lot of others ran their cars on the road and even the highways with nothing but water in their tanks for fuel. This theory will one day be in the books of science but for now it only exist in a few forums like this and other places I could put it on the net so that no one comes along and tries to steal the theory from me claiming they are the ones that figure this out. It took me many years studying making use of the scientific method asking and answering questions to figure out how nature goes about breaking the bonds of molecules.


I asked so many questions some of which were original questions meaning no one had ever asked them before. I'd wonder what was all that black stuff on the ice in the arctic and north poles and the answer was carbon. But how did it get there? Turns out a typical thunderstorm will break down any molecule that happens to get swept up in it when the conditions are right for it to do so. Think of thunderstorms as the earth's air purifiers as we already knew they break down the Nitrogen and Oxygen molecules but seem to have missed that Carbon dioxide, Methane, Carbon Monoxide, and Water Molecules are also being broken down in these thunderstorms and many other molecules as I didn't mention them all. But how I first became aware of this was by going over photosynthesis all over again to see if we missed something and sure enough I found out that we did. This lead me to ask an original question, "How do plants break the bonds of the water molecules?" In answering that question is when I saw that a plants very last step in breaking the bonds of the water molecules was to simply take the electrons away from the atoms that made up the water molecules. That's when I saw it for the first time. Then I asked, "How many different ways do we know of to get the electrons away from their atoms?" The many answers to this question lead me to take a closer look at thunderstorms and it also explained a lot of unknowns as before this no one truly knew how those reactors at Fukushima blew up since all the electricity was out and those places do not store any hydrogen in them.


You see by way of electron bombardment the atoms that made up the water molecules were getting their electrons knocked off. This method of water separation creates hydrogen and oxygen gases and electricity as the electron remains in the water bath building up a charge. Once that charge was great enough to overcome the air's electrical resistance it made a spark in the presence of hydrogen and oxygen and the rest is now history. Any way you can come up with to get the electrons away from their atoms will break down molecules into their component atoms. Once I understood this a general theory was easy to derive.


I think we are entering into what Arthur C. Clarke called, "The four stages involved in any revolutionary development."
1. It's nonsense don't waste my time.
2. Oh, it's interesting but not important.
3. I always said it was a good idea.
4. I thought of it first.


For far too long have I been ignored by the people in this forum and told that what I was saying was utter nonsense and also treated as such by many members of this forum. As I cleared one height after the next the bar would always be raised for me. First people told me that I couldn't put high voltage to a water bath as Meyer was lying and even got taken to court and lost the case. But then I did it and was told by many that I cheated somehow and they just couldn't explain how it was I was cheating. Then I actually got the water molecules to break down using high voltage and again was told by many that I was somehow cheating and must have some sort of hidden air pump making all those bubbles coming out of those electrodes. For as you should clearly be able to see now they keep raising the bar on me.
So, it shouldn't be long now before people start telling me 3 and 4 on that list. They are going to find it hard pressed to attempt to steal that theory from me and take my place in the history books as I have prepared for that long ago. And hopefully soon people will start to come around and give me their support so the road to ending the world's reliance on fossil fuels comes to a somewhat swift end. But without the support of the people it's going to take many years to push those that sell energy off of their thrones.


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They say we need thinkers, well everyone here I am.


Shalom Everyone,
Edward Mitchell
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #690 on: November 02, 2021, 12:04:27 AM »

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #691 on: November 11, 2021, 09:06:20 PM »
Here is yet another hydrogen technology that got suppressed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoBPayAyCu0 They say that the technology was deemed disruptive and that goes against the US's national security somehow. But one thing has been made clear in that they do actively suppress technologies that would move to help us out of our climate change problems.


I am having a bit of trouble with the SLA printer in that the program file it uses seems to be not supported by many CAD drawing programs. I got all I need right now to make a bobbin set but will have to figure out how to get the dwg file converted to a pwmx file. Once that is done all should be a go for this technology as the science part of this technology is solved now. Then we will see just what type of resistance I'm truly up against. One thing is for sure is if they keep suppressing this technology we will reach the point of no return and then we can kiss our children's future good bye.


This technology is all about mimicking how nature breaks the bonds of the water molecules. The window of opportunity is what makes plants alive for if they didn't break the bonds of the water molecules like this none of us would be alive as plants wouldn't exist. This is why you hear me sometimes say, "We are now tapping into the very wheelwork of life."


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #692 on: November 18, 2021, 02:21:19 PM »
When I studied the tech brief in-depth in the 2000s, I came to the conclusion that the VIC creates lightning condition without the sparks and arcs, to ionize the water molecules that are covalent bonded, until it switches off and breaks down into its components. At the right frequency interaction of impedance effects allows HV while the current is choked by impedance effect of distributed elements at resonance. I think the chokes also function as capacitors, then the circuit resembles the hairpin circuit of Tesla, which creates nodes on a bar by the impedance effect, the bar can be replaced by a water cell and at the right frequency the voltage ripples as a rubber band without current that makes the hairpin dangerous (p=v.i).
The secondary coil just transforms the voltage for the chokes.  I think, but I am not sure, that the chokes put i and v back in phase, so v actually appears on the output. I also suspect a 180 degree phaseshift between v and i somewhere, on the cell perhaps, so v & i in phase through the coils and 180 deg on the cell, but it's speculation.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #693 on: November 23, 2021, 04:47:38 AM »
When I studied the tech brief in-depth in the 2000s, I came to the conclusion that the VIC creates lightning condition without the sparks and arcs, to ionize the water molecules that are covalent bonded, until it switches off and breaks down into its components. At the right frequency interaction of impedance effects allows HV while the current is choked by impedance effect of distributed elements at resonance. I think the chokes also function as capacitors, then the circuit resembles the hairpin circuit of Tesla, which creates nodes on a bar by the impedance effect, the bar can be replaced by a water cell and at the right frequency the voltage ripples as a rubber band without current that makes the hairpin dangerous (p=v.i).
The secondary coil just transforms the voltage for the chokes.  I think, but I am not sure, that the chokes put i and v back in phase, so v actually appears on the output. I also suspect a 180 degree phaseshift between v and i somewhere, on the cell perhaps, so v & i in phase through the coils and 180 deg on the cell, but it's speculation.


Hello Alan,


For the most part I have solved the science behind this technology by making use of the scientific method and the power of observation as good observations is also good science. I shared that information on this thread someplace and went over just how this technology blocks the flow of current from going through the WFC and a whole lot more. Plants break the bonds of the water molecules in the same manor and thus is why you will get a voltage reading if you put a volt meter in a tree as the byproduct of breaking the bonds of the water molecules in this fashion is the creation of electricity.
The theory I came up with is sound and tested and thus the only way to remove it is with a better theory which does happen but as of yet no one has challenged the theory. With that theory I was able to solve many unknows like, "How did those three reactors in Fukushima blow their roofs?", "What took down flight TWA 800 shortly after takeoff?", and a whole lot more.


In this thread I tried in vein to share what I learned about this technology as I learned it but no one listens to me. Thus far I am the only one that I know of that has shown true high voltage being applied to a WFC in a provable manor and I did this way back in 2012 and even have a video floating around that was taken of Gunther and I at the 2013 Global BEM showing high voltage reading in real time. I use to post screen shots of my progress but all that seemed to do was make people mad at me so I stopped posting after reaching 8.8kv as who needs all the drama? I even posted a video when I first got the WFC working correctly showing how the gas evolution looked very different from standard electrolysis. I got accused of faking it and was said by many that I must have put an air pump someplace off camera hooked up to the WFC to generate such large bubbles like that. I think that was the straw that broke the camels back for me and I simply gave up on trying to teach anyone this technology and moved on to just actually trying to get this technology into the marketplace instead. In doing so it looks like I got myself shunned by the OU community.


Thus far I have been really busy making the next generation VIC transformers using this SLA printer I got with the help of some very nice people whom actually support my efforts to bring this technology into the marketplace. I'm working with two different core types to see which one is the more cost effective to move forwards with, but I'm going to need a lot more people like them as this technology has a high cost when starting out small like I am. Right now it just feels like I need to keep hope alive and keep pressing forwards, and believe with all my heart that things will work out in the end.


Take care and thanks for the surprise post.
Edward Mitchell

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #694 on: November 25, 2021, 05:05:14 PM »
Hi Edward,I believe you 100%. I'm going to try to collect your posts from this topic and read them. 
Is your VIC similarly wound as 6-1 and did you also use custom coated ss wire for the 2 chokes? 
btw science is catching up:https://chemistry.anu.edu.au/research/research-stories/triggering-bond-cleavage-electric-fields 
https://wp.icmm.csic.es/wp-content/uploads/sites/32/2015/06/JPCL2010.pdf 
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0167732221016731 
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1611.04677 
(haven't looked at it in-depth) 
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #695 on: November 25, 2021, 07:24:04 PM »
https://wp.icmm.csic.es/wp-content/uploads/sites/32/2015/06/JPCL2010.pdf
But carbon dioxide is an insulator, and water is a conductor.
It is not difficult to create any electric field in carbon dioxide ... :)

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #696 on: November 26, 2021, 12:21:59 PM »
But I came across one interesting publication. :)
Sorry that in Russian, perhaps there is no translation.
Perhaps you have programs that can translate this pdf text automatically.
I don’t have one. And my computer is old. Very old. I don't even have unlimited internet.
In this work, people nevertheless create standing waves in the water at resonant frequencies.
Just as it happens in air waveguides and resonators. And even adjust it with a movable piston.
Only the frequencies are very high ...

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #697 on: November 26, 2021, 02:06:07 PM »
https://thewire.in/energy/challenges-aplenty-in-indias-pursuit-of-becoming-global-hub-for-green-hydrogen
Coming up on 5,000 acres in Jamnagar, the Dhirubhai Ambani Green Energy Giga Complex will have four giga-factories that will make and integrate critical components of the new energy ecosystem — solar modules, batteries, electrolysers and fuel cells. The group is using acquisitions to gain know-how. In batteries, it picked up Ambri. In solar, it bought Norway’s REC Solar Holdings. In hydrogen, it has tied up with Denmark’s Stiesdal Fuel Technologies.
Stiesdal has designed an electrolyser that can be produced cheaply — about €200 ($231) per kW, in a market where prices typically range between €500-1,000/kW. It runs on alkaline technology, not AEM, PEM or solid oxide. By not needing rare metals — like iridium or platinum for PEM — company founder Henrik Stiesdal told ReCharge, it can be produced at scale. Not needing high temperatures to operate, it can also be bought by a wider set of customers — which gives another boost to scale.


The US DOE price target : 100 US$/KW electrolyzer production costs
when per Kg hydrogen price 70-80% are electricity price dependent, a save 20 US$/MWh e-generation (green,renewable) gives the way free for the 1 US$/Kg hydrogen production costs !


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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #698 on: November 28, 2021, 05:12:47 AM »
Hi Edward,I believe you 100%. I'm going to try to collect your posts from this topic and read them. 
Is your VIC similarly wound as 6-1 and did you also use custom coated ss wire for the 2 chokes? 
btw science is catching up:https://chemistry.anu.edu.au/research/research-stories/triggering-bond-cleavage-electric-fields 
https://wp.icmm.csic.es/wp-content/uploads/sites/32/2015/06/JPCL2010.pdf 
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0167732221016731 
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1611.04677 
(haven't looked at it in-depth) 
Take care!


Hi Allan,


I posted these four photos of exactly how Meyer built the 6-1 VIC transformer: [size=78%]https://overunity.com/7030/stanley-meyer-explained/msg556858/#msg556858[/size] I did so back in April this year. That is all of the information I have on Meyer's 6-1 VIC transformer as I don't have page 5 of 5, but these goes over all turn count data and more. The formula Meyer made use of is here: [size=78%]https://www.google.com/search?q=wheeler+formula&rlz=1C1ONGR_enUS945US945&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=Ph6OiBPABOWmsM%252CjZpH0dO5w1HboM%252C_%253BG2H0NJijcgUE8M%252CjZpH0dO5w1HboM%252C_%253BUk1aKHuP406RpM%252CjZpH0dO5w1HboM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kSlNN73VMsbenXXKeGVxuGkiLUXpw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiOhMWmhKX0AhWOTjABHbs9AlsQ_h16BAgVEAE#imgrc=Ph6OiBPABOWmsM[/size] As you can see I've done my homework. I normally use heavy build wire or some coatings that have a high dielectric value and most of the time with a rating of 200 degrees C. Thanks to Trump things have become a lot more expensive as some of the wire has to come from China.


I don't use the 430FR wire but another that is a bit more resistive, and the way I build things are a bit different than what Meyer did but it's still a high voltage transformer that is resin sealed to get all the air out and prevent the wires from moving around something I had to learn the hard way having a few of my VIC transformers fail on me, but that's the cost of R&D, huh?


All in all I think I've gotten quite good at designing these transformer bobbins now as I put a lot of thought into each design in an attempt to make them perfectly first time around. All of my problem solving skills come in handy when I design things as I am able to truly think things out and fix problems I had in the past and even go over my designs to make sure I don't introduce a new problem.
I do find it interesting that now they are starting to look at new ways to break the bonds of the water molecules and even CO2 molecules after the the bad talk they give me and others about this technology. But with the water they are still trying to get the hydrogen and oxygen separately when this technology produces them together right in the middle of the capacitor plates. But it just lets me know that when this technology does hit the market they will no longer be able to say, "It breaks the laws of thermodynamics," or, "It breaks the laws of physics." Since I have already solved this technology and even came up with a whole new theory for the science books I guess one day I'll be in one of these papers.


Well, I hope you the best with your designs.
Take care,
Edward Mitchell

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #699 on: December 03, 2021, 01:22:27 AM »
Here are my some of my first prints with the SLA printer. I still much to learn and hopefully have things dialed in soon as thus far with this learning curve I already damaged the FEP and had to order a new one. Once I have everything dialed in and things are perfect it's time to move on to the next step as my aim is clear in attempting to put this technology on the market.
I put all of my trail and error testing into these designs I build today and I really don't think anyone that I know of designs these bobbins the way I do as these are results of the many things I've learned through failure.
This print was doing okay but I had to leave the machine unattended and it ran out of resin :o . It looks like I have to focus on dialing the printer in with the resin I am using so things will be perfect.


A big thanks to all that have donated to the cause of bring this technology to the marketplace as without your support none of this would be possible.


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell

 

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