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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #600 on: May 23, 2021, 10:54:54 AM »
As I say, only once did I manage to put a high voltage into a cell with water.
And even in general, one wire !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM8d3SEgLI8
This video, filmed more than a year ago, was lost. I found it yesterday.
As you can see, the capacitor is charging from the other two plates.
Up to about 1000 volts. And so that it does not break through, the arrester is triggered.  :)
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« Reply #601 on: May 23, 2021, 11:22:26 AM »
In general, where should they come from, these high-frequency oscillations?
The thyristor opened with a control pulse, at the end of the half-wave of the mains supply voltage (50 or 60 Hz.) It closed.

p.s. Maybe the dimensions of the electrodes in your picture are in inches?

p.p.s. I also wanted to say about your vacuum resin. I was repairing CRT TVs.
Sometimes it was necessary to insulate a burned-out high-voltage wire till 30kV.
No cambric, PVC tubing, duct tape could do it.I came up with the idea of using ordinary silicone for this.
Maybe it will work in your case? :)


The high frequency oscillations come from the 9xb part of the circuit as that's the part of the circuit that is for tuning things and yes the dimensions of those electrodes are in inches, sorry about that but we don't normally use the metric system here in America.
As for using silicone it would have to be like water or oil in it's viscosity as it must replace the air in the gaps between all the coils in the transformer bobbins. Air is the enemy of these high voltage transformers as it will ionize and the current's path to ground can easily flow through ionized air and bypass all of that resistive wire. I lost a lot of transformers learning that lesson. I do use some of that type of silicon on some of the solder connections to prevent the air from becoming ionized along with some wire rated to take the voltages this technology works at.


Now if you look at the waveform in the picture imagine the part that does do negative is reflected like a mirror image and subtract all of that out of the positive voltage and that is what's left over that will pass through the water bath heating up the water in the process as it's just normal electrolysis being done by pulsed direct current. Only when the waveform is balanced will the voltage be allowed to do the work of breaking the bonds of the water molecules by way of ionization of the atoms electrons causing them to eject their electrons which is the glue that holds the molecules together in the first place. Take away the glue, IE electrons, then the molecules simply fall apart and in this case that would be hydrogen and oxygen gas atoms being produced on demand by simply raising or lowering the voltage being applied to the water fuel cell.
And note once you have a sustained arc between the plates of the WFC the show is over as there will be no more potential difference between the plates to ionized the atoms getting them to eject their electrons. So, no "Catastrophic dielectric failure," as Peter Lindemann was wrong.


But remember I went back to Meyer's old stuff to follow in his footsteps to see if I could learn this technology the same way he did and in the end I did what I set out to do which was to get at the science behind this technology. Once I understood what was going on I went back to working with the voltage intensifier circuit and abandoned the 8xa/9xb/9xd circuits. But I did figure out to have better success with that part of Meyer's technology the smaller the space between the plates the better it works and yes it will be all sparkly when the cell is running just as seen in Space Man's videos.


Well, it's getting late night night all,
Edward

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« Reply #602 on: May 23, 2021, 02:29:14 PM »
https://overunity.com/7030/stanley-meyer-explained/msg557508/#msg557508
This is about my last video.
it seems that it turned out so to create at least some kind of high voltage in the water.
Or maybe I'm wrong. All parts, starting from the high-voltage terminal of the transformer, are isolated from everything.This idea was inspired by the picture below, a certain Strebkov.
But I did my own way as always.  ;)

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The high frequency oscillations come from the 9xb part of the circuit as that's the part of the circuit that is for tuning things
I assumed it. This can be shock excitation by a sharp rise front when the thyristor opens.
But in other experiments I have observed only two or three free vibrations at best.
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« Reply #603 on: May 23, 2021, 09:50:15 PM »
Not too sure what to say when you show me things like this as you have totally moved away from what Dr. Dingle, Stanley Meyer, and others have done. The reason why I shared the science behind this technology was so that all of you would know the end goal which is to get the atoms to eject their electrons. Why? It is that action that breaks down the water molecules into their component atoms. That's the end goal of doing all of this as this technology is mimicking how a thunderstorm breaks the bonds of the molecules that are present in our air supply. The reason why I say it that way is a thunderstorm will break down any molecules that gets sucked up inside of it when it is producing high voltage potentials as it breaks the bonds of Oxygen, Nitrogen, Methane, Carbon Dioxide, water molecules, and many others.


The reason I have shared all of this with you folks is so that you know what it is you have to do with this technology and why. This is the end game of doing all of this to remove the electrons from their atoms as that act breaks down the molecules they have moved to form.


When you show me things like that Kolbacict I have to question just what it is you are trying to accomplish? The reason being is it seems like you didn't get the message of what the end goal was which is to get the molecules to breakdown into their constitute atoms by way of ionization. There are no magic frequencies but only a set of rules for RLC circuits and Standing Wave frequencies and noticing that when at resonance the inductors act like very large resistors and the tubes vibrate a lot. This is the science behind the technology so I have no idea what direction you are heading in or what your goals are. I've done the grunt work and shared my results with everyone as that's the science behind the technology in that it's mimicking a thunderstorm.


These two circuits are the same and the goal of the electric mimicking of a thunderstorm is to get at the electrons of the atoms that make up the water molecules using voltage potentials and not current flow like electrolysis does. You see the only reason I shared this information was so that people would know just how this technology was breaking the bonds of the water molecules scientifically. You see main stream science is running around telling people there is but one way to break the bonds of the water molecules and I now there are millions of species of plants that totally disagree with them.




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« Reply #604 on: May 24, 2021, 09:41:10 AM »
Hi.
But what an elegant way I suggested as a replacement for a high-voltage differential probe.
No doubt, it is needed to observe the signals on the cell. But if a person has no money, but a lot of junk, as in the picture below, You can apply this signal directly to the deflection plates of the CRT.
A few kilovolts of common mode voltage on the plates  will not damage the tube.
And only the differential signal will deflect the beam.
I’m really good, take me into you ... :)

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« Reply #605 on: May 24, 2021, 05:06:06 PM »
These differential probes are a must but you don't need to get one that handles as much voltage as the one's I have as if you build a WFC like Meyer's with 10 cells hooked up in series you can put the probe on just one of those cells which will take the voltage requirements down by a factor of 10 as the cell divides the voltage between all of the cells in the series array. Thus a differential probe that can go up to 700-1300 volts would do the trick, but only if a series cell array with 10 or more cells hooked in series is used. This is a way to get around needing to get a differential probe rated for 7.5-15 kv as the ones I got. The waveform will look exactly the same on just one of the cells in the series array as it will on all of them at the transformer connection points to the series cell array.


Anyway just trying to give you some options but do note the differential probe is required as we are dealing with a sensitive isolated circuit that is actively looking for a ground. In one of my experiments the cell was put too close to a grounding source and it created a arc to that ground which prevented the VIC from creating a high voltage potential difference. I should have taken a picture of it as it looked really weird seeing a blue glow coming from the cell to what it was grounding out on but now I only have a mental image in my head of the event and can only share my story with you. Just know it went down to the matt the cell was sitting on it's way to the ground it found the only how I found it was I heard a slight hissing sound and looked around to see where it was coming from.


I also found out that I couldn't use any circulation pump I found on the web as if the pump has a path to ground the cell would take it and would thus never charge up and I had to get a pump that had no source to ground which, for me, was a solenoid pump. I use the pump to pump the water through a filter to take out all the contaminates in the water as I didn't make the Meyer type filter that does the same thing. This is how I know Meyer's injectors simply would not work as he didn't isolate them from the car's electrical system and the battery ground would prevent the negative voltages from being created.

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« Reply #606 on: May 25, 2021, 09:06:54 PM »
I wanted to do it so much.
To sell hydrogen, at least as long as there is, to make some money.
Money for a ticket to fly to you in California. To live in your barn, will you hide me?

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« Reply #607 on: May 26, 2021, 07:13:42 AM »

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In our discussion forum www.overunity.com we talk about all kinds of free energy and alternative
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The world will soon be very green without any pollution and any chemical fuel pollutants
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So all in all Free energy will bring far more peace to the world than any other invention has already brought to the world.


Has this saying been the same for awhile? The problem with this is free energy devices aren't free to build let alone mass produce for the masses to try and get the prices down enough so that people around the world can afford to own these devices. Words like these is how people get the crazy idea that anyone trying to sell this technology are the bad guys. The way materials are brought and sold follows the same supply and demand curve of the markets as after all these materials are sold on the markets. Buyers whom buy things in low quantities pay a whole lot more than those that buy things in bulk which is the reason why things are put into mass production.


Then there's the ability to understand and build any of these technologies as people around the world don't have access to machines used to cut materials into the many shapes any of these technologies require let alone the ability to refine any of these raw materials. Then there is the cost of having someone make these devices as those makers will generally have a minimum make amount as they have to stop what it is they are doing for others to clear their machines to make these needed items for those whom want them made. For this water for fuel technology there are minimum buys for the transformer cores, the wire, and even some of the resins, chips, capacitors, and resistors needed to get this technology up and running. Everything has a cost to it excepts the water for the WFC's and air for the Gas Processor's. Each screw, circuit board, and so much more all have a cost associated with it but statements like these make everyone believe that when someone figures this technology out they must give it away free of charge and then everyone around the world will be able to build one for themselves which is false. People can't even follow the simple instructions I have already posted without trying to cut corners or add their spin and/or wayward thinking to it. With this water for fuel technology in the wrong hands can lead to death of those that try and build this technology along with innocents that had no idea what these people were up too. I have already seen people's cells blow up on them sending shards of acrylic in all directions.


This technology must come out by way of mass production that is safe for use, cost effective, and built to last. It must be tested to ensure no one gets hurt with a reasonable margin. People need to know how long the devices will last and/or are expected to last so that they can plan to get a new one or there must be parts of the things the will break over time available to purchase. Maintenance teams and installers need to be trained to put this technology out to the masses as well as new engine management programs and the highly trained mechanics that will be needed to work on them. All of this takes planning and time as you just don't figure one of these technologies out on a Monday and expect to have it in every shop and store around the world by Friday. Sure this technology has the power to do away with the use of fossil fuels for good but it will have a cost to it as it isn't free as materials are needed to make them, labor from people to assemble, install, maintain, troubleshoot, and fix them, plus teachers to train all of those people. Why people on forums like these never talk about these things is beyond me, but I guess as a whole they are trapped in some form of La, La land [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvCsfqbPWzo[/size]


I simply don't understand why talks like this are not dominating the forum as we need to be honest with ourselves and what it is we are trying to accomplish. We need to come back down to reality and deal with the world we have and not the worlds we create in our heads that don't actually exist. All of these technologies will take some major planning as we are trying to replace the use of fossil fuels which has been apart of our lives for many generations now. All those that sell energy do not wish to stop doing so and governments have went to war to obtain these fossil fuels killing millions of people in the process. In order to topple these powerful institutions these technologies will need more than the full support of the people as they also need people that will move to see these technologies through till completion. We have so much work ahead of us and we will have to fight those that do not wish to stop selling energy to the masses in no matter which form they use to put energy on the grid systems around the world. Are you folks up for this fight where on one side it's filled with people like me with little money to do much of anything and on the other side people with so much money that just one of them can feed the entire world and still have money left over to do what ever they wish to do with it? It's going to be a war of the have's verses the have nots as many of the have's do not wish for people to be free of their energy enslavement situations they find themselves in today. We must stop fighting each other and come together in one accord if we are to have a chance at toppling just one of these giants let alone all of them.


And to Kolbacist, True Green Solutions isn't hiring anyone at the moment and we do not provide our workers with a place to live. Sorry.


Shalom Everyone,
Edward

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #608 on: May 28, 2021, 01:23:24 PM »
A constant current of the same magnitude was passed from the power source, which was recorded in the thyristor pulse circuit. The evolution of gases is visually the same. Again, everything is according to Faraday's law.  misfortunes are pursuing me again ...  :'(

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« Reply #609 on: June 01, 2021, 08:36:24 AM »
Why then does the decomposition of water not occur in Marx's water generator?
There, really, very high stresses are present on the plates.
And the frequencies are quite large, units and tens of kilohertz.
Which are determined by the time constant RC.
Less is simply impossible due to the self-discharge of a capacitor with a water dielectric.
But we do not observe any signs of decomposition of water into hydrogen and oxygen.

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« Reply #610 on: June 01, 2021, 10:55:01 AM »
Good Morning (elsewhere ),


#592 : Why ? To give the forum members the opportunity to read all the (peswiki + links) content related Stanley Allen Meyer research and developments and similar trials and approaches ! And then to do to You the right questions or help offer !


kolbacict :


https://overunity.com/7030/stanley-meyer-explained/dlattach/attach/181783/image//


green field : ?  Iono-/Thermo-sphere    therm-ionic and analog permanent magnet/electromagnet

( kajunbee #14 ! https://overunity.com/18854/motor-search-for-lenz-less-or-lenz-assisted/ )








http://chemalloy.blogspot.com/2012/01/chemalloy-samuel-freedman.html


 a.heat generation (soil) b.catalytic ( hydrogen/oxygen) c. electric current


this alloy elementar material radiation in frequencies ?


 a. optical spectrograph/spectrometer   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_spectrometer


b. acoustical spectrograph/spectrometer  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_resonance_spectroscopy

 c. https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massenspektrometrie

                            photo-synthese         phono-synthese


                            solar                        anti-solar




           
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://antwortenhier.me/q/phonosynthese-oekosystem-in-dem-pflanzen-energie-aus-schall-und-nicht-aus-l-36200157208

https://www.wwu.edu/astro101/a101_lightwaves.shtml#:~:text=Light%20radiates%20from%20a%20source,light%20is%20called%20Electromagnetic%20Radiation.&text=The%20light%20with%20short%20wavelengths,with%20long%20wavelengths%20(red).

Light radiates from a source in waves. Each wave has two parts; an electric part, and a magnetic part.


 That's why light is called Electromagnetic Radiation.


Light radiates from a source in waves       / sound wave

 Light waves are electromagnetic waves while sound waves are mechanical waves. Light waves are transverse while sound waves are longitudinal. Light waves can travel in vacuum.

https://www.health.belgium.be/en/environment/placing-products-market/electromagnetic-waves-and-sound#:~:text=Electromagnetic%20radiation%20is%20the%20propagation,we%20can%20only%20hear%20sound.

Electromagnetic radiation and sound are both physical (environmental) factors that can affect our health. The physicists consider both of these to be waves. That is why the same terminology is used, such as intensity, frequency, wavelength. Yet, these are completely different phenomena.


Electromagnetic radiation is the propagation through space of electrical and magnetic waves while sound is the result of small changes in the air pressure that propagate through the air.


 We can sometimes see electromagnetic radiation (as light) or feel it (as warmth) while we can only hear sound.
Read below which forms of electromagnetic radiation and sound exist and how we can prevent and limit health risks associated with it.


https://www.health.belgium.be/en/electromagnetic-radiation

https://www.health.belgium.be/en/sound-and-sound-pollution



water frequency ? hydrogen frequency and oxygen frequency,their (Eigen)spin un-/bonded ? their resonance frequency/spin : un/bonded ?
                                                   
                                                                 cw or ccw ( ever ? anti- )

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19940505&CC=DE&NR=4238952A1&KC=A1


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19931111&CC=DE&NR=4222678A1&KC=A1




How much in the conversion process does


to differ a. open cycle


and b. close(d) (chamber/globe,... corpus) cycle and pressure(vacuum ?)+ stream orientation related,

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drucksto%25C3%259F


https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermische_Zustandsgleichung_idealer_Gase#Gesetz_von_Boyle-Mariotte


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermische_Zustandsgleichung_idealer_Gase%23Gesetz_von_Boyle-Mariotte






influence the water to hydrogen/oxygen division ?


 In quantity and quality ?! H2O to HHO ( oxy-hydrogen, O3 ? Ozone )  to pure H and O2




How fast has to be the process and extraction for not rebonding ?!


With/-out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolyte  https://www.jacobi.net/catalyst-function/

              a + c or a+k : diode process ? reverse ?


 diode :   light to electricity and/or electricity to light

 glass prism :


In 1704 Sir Isaac Newton published a book called "Opticks" which explained some of the mysteries of light.
 Newton showed that sunlight is a mixture of a continuous spectrum of colors.
White light from the Sun can be passed through a glass prism and broken into all the colors of the rainbow.
 He even passed the colored spectrum through a second prism that reassembled it back into white light



Sincere


OCWL


p.s.: h2opower ,100 years back, meno-/genozid https://www.genocidewatch.com/ in Tulsa(Oklahoma )
   
        “Our country may forget this history, but I cannot. I will not, and other survivors do not – and our descendants do not.”


          Dali and La persistencia de memoria  https://cdn.culturagenial.com/imagens/clocks-cke.jpg


          and "Casablanca"  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d22CiKMPpaY




          forgetting is a pandemic peculiarity   ( forgetting / forgiveness :  – and our descendants aI. want bI. will do not aII. ! bII. ? )
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #611 on: June 03, 2021, 04:32:10 PM »
And if you place a real liquid insulator instead of water between the electrode-plates.
for example gasoline, petroleum ether, benzene, which are perfect insulators.
Any potential difference can be created there, and no self-discharge.
Liquid ammonia, for example. Non-polar solvents.
Divide into hydrogen and carbon.
Has anyone succeeded?

p.s.
 I was told now that water above the critical temperature loses its electrical conductivity.
It's true ?
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« Reply #612 on: June 11, 2021, 10:11:08 PM »
Good Morning (elsewhere ),


p.s.: h2opower ,100 years back, meno-/genozid https://www.genocidewatch.com/ in Tulsa(Oklahoma )
   
        “Our country may forget this history, but I cannot. I will not, and other survivors do not – and our descendants do not.”


          Dali and La persistencia de memoria  https://cdn.culturagenial.com/imagens/clocks-cke.jpg


          and "Casablanca"  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d22CiKMPpaY




          forgetting is a pandemic peculiarity   ( forgetting / forgiveness :  – and our descendants aI. want bI. will do not aII. ! bII. ? )


Yeah, you'll be surprised at just how many towns and communities they burned to the ground as this information simply isn't taught in schools, colleges, or any other type of higher learning institution. I had to learn all of this by doing a lot of my own research and also learning from others that did the same. They tried so hard to sweep all of these evils under the rug and are now getting mad at us for looking under the run to see just what was under there we've been tripping over all this time. The main reason why we just uncover this history is if one doesn't understand history they will be doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past and right now we can see a lot of this taking place with the American criminal justice system.


As some of you might have noticed I have stopped posting for awhile as I don't see any relevant questions on the technology I shared, nor do I see anyone actually applying what I've shown them on this site to their work. I'm on the busy side right now getting a lot of work done on my car and hopefully getting it ready to be converted to run with nothing but water in it's tank for the future but for now I have a lot of little things to fix on the car such as exhaust leaks, and other things of the like. Thus far I replaced quite a few things on the car as the car is new to me and I must get it working in top condition. I even got some plasma spark plugs so as to be ready for this technology when I get to that point. Anyway If I don't see any relevant questions or folks showing me they are also following my lead then I will just keep checking in from time to time and keep at what it is I am doing.


Take care everyone,
Edward

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« Reply #613 on: June 16, 2021, 01:55:57 PM »
I want, really want to dissociated the water.
But nothing works out.
p.s. If your vacuum resin is just epoxy then that's not a problem for me.

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« Reply #614 on: June 17, 2021, 01:22:13 PM »
I have a factory-supplied pulse generator up to 30MHz with a standard 50ohm coaxial output.
Good thing. Nanosecond edges. With the ability to synchronize with an external signal.
But the output voltage is not enough to drive the lamp. To receive the necessary impulses up to 1kV.
I came up with such a scheme and it turned out great. But the water remains unperturbed. :(

 

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