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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #540 on: April 27, 2021, 07:43:19 PM »
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As for the frequencies this technology operates at it's around 5-12 kHz depending on the size of the resonant cavities and the inductance of the inductors used.
I don’t understand anyway.
The distance between the electrodes in the cell is millimeters.
The wavelength at 12 kHz is 25 kilometers. 300000000/f.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #541 on: April 27, 2021, 08:53:01 PM »
I don’t understand anyway.
The distance between the electrodes in the cell is millimeters.
The wavelength at 12 kHz is 25 kilometers. 300000000/f.


Hello Again,


This has to do with the physical properties of the tubes themselves as well as the RLC relationship between the inductors and the capacitors. Here is a video going over wind chimes as this is all related to this technology we too work with: [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfOb8EIx04k&ab_channel=LeeHite[/size] Now after watching that video you have some idea of the frequencies we will be at and how to go about holding the tubes for the fundamental frequency which is what we are after. The gating frequency is used to tune into this fundamental frequency of the outer tubes.


As for the RLC resonance remember this technology doubles the frequency so if you put in 6 kHz what the cell will see is 12 kHz as the voltage intensifier circuit will double the pulse frequency. In this we are talking about the electrical resonance between the inductors and the capacitors. Here we can tune things to be nearly whatever frequency we want as seen in this RLC calculator: [size=78%]https://www.translatorscafe.com/unit-converter/en-US/calculator/series-rlc-impedance/[/size] as seen you can change the resonance frequency by altering the inductance. Note the typical inductance is in the Henry's and the typical capacitance is in the Pico Farads to get the frequencies in the kHertz range. You can adjust things by altering the variables. But since you already know the size of the resonant cavities and should thus make them accordingly you really only need to keep altering the inductance of the transformer to get the resonance where you want it to be. Just note that these WFC capacitors are in fact variable capacitors which is why there must be a resonance PLL system to lock on to and maintain resonance. As more and more gases are generated those gases displace the dielectric between the plates of the capacitor and it's capacitance goes down. This changes the resonant frequency which is why a PLL is needed in the circuit and it too must be fast enough to keep up with the changes in frequency as the voltages are raised/lowered. Now there are a whole lot of things I am not talking about and won't talk about but I feel this gets the general point across.


I have a whole list of things I use to make these VIC transformers that I came up with through my many dealings with them through experimentation as I went about learning this technology. Plus now that I posted that Meyer turn count data everyone should be able to start making these transformers effectively, but I will not talk much on just what it is I am doing on this part of the technology past what I have already talked about. Just know that these switches have limits and we must design things to not overwhelm them.


All in a good days work,
Edward


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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #542 on: April 28, 2021, 02:04:19 PM »
related #540 :


Hz,ancient "cycles per second"


rotative engine process change :


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All engines have LIMITED POWER. < we'll provide 6 TIMES the power with the same amount of fuel because sparks occur AFTER top dead center. Now when a crank rotates to 90 degrees after top dead center (TDC) the explosion pressure drops below 100 psi, but when we have an explosion closer to 90 degrees after TDC the pressure is 600 psi.




https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Clerk_Maxwell


" .... When Maxwell became interested in electricity, he wrote to William Thomson, 1st Baron Kelvin, and asked him how best to proceed. Kelvin recommended that Maxwell read the published works of Faraday, Kelvin, Ampère, and then those of the German physicists, in the order given. .... "


                                  home literature,from the temporal Bests ! In original language ?










" ...... in particular in 1864 he predicted the existence of electromagnetic waves , which Heinrich Hertz was the first to generate and prove in 1886. ....."


                           Which was Maxwells "physical model" and which Hertz his "physical model"-view ?!

                                                    by mathematical theory or experimental trials ?!




https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_John_Thomson



By examining the cathode radiation in 1897, Thomson succeeded in providing experimental evidence for the existence of the electron predicted by George Johnstone Stoney as early as 1874 (the electron played a fundamental role in the theories of Hendrik Antoon Lorentz and Joseph Larmor as early as 1892 ).


Thomson was also able to prove that moving electrons could be deflected by a magnetic field,


                        which Heinrich Hertz had previously denied.




                                                  Denied by which "model"-thesis ?




From 19.century theories,divided :

Kinetic gas theory and Electromagnetism

to 21.century both combinated :

gas to electron-/ion gas

to Plasma theory

f.e. https://www.psfc.mit.edu/research/topics/basic-plasma-theory-simulation#:~:text=When%20flowing%20plasmas%20interact%20with%20solid%20objects%2C%20a%20wake%20is%20formed.&text=Understanding%20the%20behavior%20of%20dust,solution%20of%20the%20same%20equations.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_(physics)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Crookes


Crookes developed the Crookes tubes,[19] investigating cathode rays. He published numerous papers on spectroscopy and conducted research on a variety of minor subjects. In his investigations of the conduction of electricity in low pressure gases, he discovered that as the pressure was lowered, the negative electrode (cathode) appeared to emit rays (the so-called "cathode rays", now known to be a stream of free electrons, and used in cathode ray display devices). As these examples indicate, he was a pioneer in the construction and use of vacuum tubes for the study of physical phenomena.[20]


 He was, as a consequence, one of the first scientists to investigate what is now called a plasma and identified it as the fourth state of matter in 1879.


[21]He also devised one of the first instruments for studying nuclear radioactivity, the spinthariscope.[3][22][23][24]


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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #543 on: April 28, 2021, 04:14:27 PM »
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Just note that these WFC capacitors are in fact variable capacitors which is why there must be a resonance PLL system to lock on to and maintain resonance. As more and more gases are generated those gases displace the dielectric between the plates of the capacitor and it's capacitance goes down. This changes the resonant frequency which is why a PLL is needed in the circuit and it too must be fast enough to keep up with the changes in frequency as the voltages are raised/lowered.
Okay, I agree with that. :)
PLL is not a problem to do. And you, as I understand it, have a colleague or friend, Gunther, a German.
In a yellow shirt.  :) He dealt with the microprocessor part ...
p.s.And I continue to experiment. I made a 50W generator. 20-50MHz.
water in a syringe has boiled. There is no hydrogen ... :(

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But I also thought, if all the water decomposed into hydrogen and oxygen at one moment, it would be an explosion. The volume would increase 800 times .
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #544 on: April 29, 2021, 04:18:22 PM »
Take a look ...The temperature is far from 100 degrees. Some kind of gas is released.
Raises the piston. The frequency is about 31.6 MHz. There is an antenna matching device that allows the generator to match any load.  :) This thing is part of a VHF radio station.

p.s.
Today it occurred to me that if you try to dissociate into atoms in your resonant cell, not water, but, for example, alcohol or acetone.The binding energy of hydrogen there is much less than in water with oxygen. it will be easier to break.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #545 on: April 29, 2021, 10:25:26 PM »
Take a look ...The temperature is far from 100 degrees. Some kind of gas is released.
Raises the piston. The frequency is about 31.6 MHz. There is an antenna matching device that allows the generator to match any load.  :) This thing is part of a VHF radio station.

p.s.
Today it occurred to me that if you try to dissociate into atoms in your resonant cell, not water, but, for example, alcohol or acetone.The binding energy of hydrogen there is much less than in water with oxygen. it will be easier to break.


In order for me to evaluate this I'd need to know at what temperate and pressure the liquid is being held under. There is a reason why I added in 1 ATM as if the pressure is less the water will boil at lower temperatures. We have to look over things like, "Phase diagrams." But note water is something special as both oxygen and hydrogen have practically the same ionization threshold to get the atoms to release their electrons. As for putting something other than water inside of my WFC no way that's going to happen as I a truly focused on the mission at hand to be straying away from it now.
The reason is simple, no other technology can do what this technology can do as it simply has no equal.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #546 on: May 01, 2021, 11:09:00 AM »
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In order for me to evaluate this I'd need to know at what temperate and pressure
The pressure is atmospheric. Temperature cannot be measured with an electronic thermometer, RF interference.I will find a suitable glass thermometer, I will inform you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masaru_Emoto
Do you believe that water changes with thoughts?  :)
A powerful HF generator with which we heat water has modulation. If this can be done by thoughts, even more so by direct impact on water. Ask the water to decompose into its components into the microphone. Or pray ...

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« Reply #547 on: May 01, 2021, 11:42:00 AM »
Here's what I am getting at. As seen in the attachment is the "Phase Diagram" for water. It shows what the conditions of water at different temperatures and pressures and if the molecule is in a gaseous, liquid, or solid state. We always have to keep these things in mind as I do believe it also has a effect on water decomposition. This is why it is so important to not put any heat energy into the water bath which the properly balanced waveform will accomplish as we don't want any energy being wasted heating up the water. Water is also effected by temperature concerning it's dielectric constant which is Meyer states the temperature when he talks about water's dielectric properties as seen in the pdf file in the second attachment.


This is why I make sure and tell people this technology is on the complicated side as it's the opposite of electrolysis which by contrast is very simple.


Shalom,
Edward

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #548 on: May 06, 2021, 09:26:54 AM »
good diagram.  :)
I was wrong.  The thermocouple is not affected by high frequency interference.
The temperature is, indeed, close to the boiling point of water.
My installation only boils water.  :(

p.s.
Well, and by what mechanism does a water molecule disintegrate in you?
Ionic or free radical ? If by ionic, then what discharges charged ions?

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« Reply #549 on: May 06, 2021, 08:39:21 PM »
https://overunity.com/1763/12-times-more-output-than-input-dual-mechanical-oscillation-system/msg557368/#msg557368
Is it possible to break the connection by swinging the oscillations parametrically ?
Similar to how it is done in the link above (according to Milkovich.)

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #550 on: May 06, 2021, 09:04:42 PM »
For me the water molecules break down into it's component elements by way of "Ionization" where the atoms undergo ionization and release their electrons as then there is nothing left to hold the molecules together since the atoms form an ionic bond.


Everything must be as perfect as one can make them as the water bath can't have any grounds or any way for it to bleed it's charge while being charged up. If so more than likely it will reach an equilibrium state and never charge up enough to be able to ionize the atoms that make up the water molecules. My cell is so isolated that even now after weeks of none use it holds a charge on the plates of the capacitor. From what I see a lot of folks doing is trying to make up new rules of building things without trying to understand why the secondary side of the VIC circuit must remain an isolated circuit at all times. This is to include the WFC as after all it is a part of the VIC circuit. I have no idea why people choose to not follow what Meyer did and instead try and do it their own way when their understanding of this technology is at the beginner level. To me it just doesn't make any logical sense for people to stray away from what Don Gable shared with everyone until they have a firm understanding of just what is going on with this technology. Maybe it's pride or a desire for fame or they just what to say they did it their way, but what ever it is practically all I have seen working on this technology is stricken by whatever mental sickness this is.


I built things as close to perfect as I could and studied this technology thoroughly and afterwards once I had gained an understanding of this technology did I start to make changes to it. I guess no is willing to put in the time it takes to undergo that task as I did. The scientific method is just a tool and we all should be making use of it not just me as after all the tool is free for all to make use of.


Right now I am in fund raising mode so that I can be able to afford the things I need to get this technology into the marketplace.


As for what going on in that other thread I won't even pay it any attention as I keep things strictly towards doing what my experiments showed me was true while I was investigating this technology learning it's secrets the old fashion way. This technology is complex and trying to add in another technology will make it even more so so why even bother?


Shalom,
Edward

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #551 on: May 07, 2021, 10:33:44 AM »
what mechanism does a water molecule disintegrate in you?
What did you want to get? Wanted to get hydrogen from a high-frequency field? Then it is necessary, like Kanzius, to use a strong field. "Flame Discharge"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyZuel2iaBk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quXa90HojfM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AQmaAEyTic
If the terminal is wetted with salt water:
 - place the electrode in water, or
- put a cotton swab moistened with salt water on the terminal, the length and brightness of the discharge flame greatly increases Water ionizes and decomposes, but at such temperatures it burns again.
The increase, if there is, is small.


In general, how much gas addition did you want to get with conventional electrolysis?
 0.3% can add a high-frequency field to the required energy consumption for conventional electrolysis.
Can you measure a 0.3% increase in gas yield?

 It is likely that in electrolysis with a very low DC voltage, at which there will be a very small gas yield. It is desirable to create a vacuum for better separation of oxygen and hydrogen. But I suppose that with this method, the percentage of the increase will also be small.
For quick monitoring of hydrogen production, I recommend using a hydrogen sensor like this Arduino small module on base MQ-8 or better, :
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9zi7mYDTIQ
This Arduino sensor module works without Arduino.
An ordinary voltmeter and a 5 volt power supply from a mobile phone charge are enough.   
The sensor is of course cheap and not very accurate.

We need to find another way, how to turn 0.3% into 300%

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #552 on: May 07, 2021, 11:50:23 AM »
For low electricity input and high hydrogen/oxygen splitting we can use chemical strong active elements like
aluminium,but now in nano-grains = high surface area per gram !
search machine : nano-aluminium

Because " non consumed" alloys like chemalloy have " undefined high C.O.P." ,the negative point :hydrogen production in liter/cc/mg per minute !
Aluminium with an anti-oxydation -low cost- coating as catalyzer is the solution !
The labs in search !

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #553 on: May 07, 2021, 12:57:43 PM »
Aluminum nanopowder is not a catalyst as it reacts chemically with water?
Aluminum is consumed to produce hydrogen like conventional fuel.

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« Reply #554 on: May 07, 2021, 03:51:43 PM »
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What did you want to get?
I wanted like Edward's ...  Or better.  ;) joke. :)
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Can you measure a 0.3% increase in gas yield?
No.
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For quick monitoring of hydrogen production, I recommend using a hydrogen sensor like this Arduino small module on base MQ-8 or better, :
Thanks.
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For low electricity input and high hydrogen/oxygen splitting we can use chemical strong active elements like
aluminium,but now in nano-grains = high surface area per gram !
I have paint "serebryanka" (silver) (aluminum powder.) :)
And i don't have money,as well. at all.  :)
And even worse, I have no like-minded people and helpers.

 

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