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Author Topic: Stanley Meyer Explained  (Read 220747 times)

Offline h20power

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #405 on: November 23, 2019, 08:38:30 PM »
You see kolbacist here is the problem in a nutshell. If people like you are ask a question they never give an answer. I ask you what does the area under the curve represent and you gave no answer, why is that? You know what's even more sad, I think I posted the answer to that question only a page or two back. This is what I mean by being disrespectful as people like you will not even take the time to read what is posted in this thread but come at me as if you have all the answers when it should be clear that I am posting all of the answers as to the science behind this technology free for all to have and learn from.


Right now you need to go over this thread and pay attention to pages 21 & 23 as I go over the science behind this technology and you will find it interesting to lean that it has nothing to do with Dr. Faraday's work as it is something the scientific community missed in their rush to give answers to how thunderstorms actually work as they couldn't be more wrong. Mimicking this Global Electric Circuit electronically is exactly what Meyer, and others, did to break the bonds of the water molecules at rates that far exceed the efficiency of Dr. Faraday's electrolysis method.


This is not a miracle as it is science that has gone misunderstood for long enough in my book. This technology is the total opposite of classical electrochemistry according to Faraday's law as it is looking at how nature breaks the bonds of the water molecules and mimicking that. People like to go to what I call the comic book section of Meyer's patents and just look at the pictures but in that they get mislead as Meyer shows only one side of the waveform most of the time but if one reads the information in the adult section he always talks about there being both positive and negative voltages and as it would have it just a page back I go over the importance of the waveform having a balanced positive and negative voltage complete with photos and even a photo of my actual waveform from which those drawings are based off of. Yes, I did the work as that is what is required when making use of the scientific method.


Sure it took me a long time to get at the science behind this technology as I started this journey back in 2006 but I knew going into this that the scientific method is a slow process but I kept at it for over a decade. It's hard when you are dealing with unknowns as you have to ask and answer the right questions and will find that you don't have really anyplace to go and look up any information as most of what you are dealing with is new to the scientific community. In that it is something new to the scientific community you have to trust your experimental results and observations and constantly test them to make sure you are in fact correct. And while all of this is going on if you are like me and post in open places people will treat you with utter disdain and disrespect. I guess in their minds who do I think I am?! This is my experience with dealing with the Open Source community I get treated as garbage for my troubles.


Anyway, I am ranting thus it's time to stop posting for a bit.
Have a wonderful weekend everyone  ;D

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #405 on: November 23, 2019, 08:38:30 PM »

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #406 on: November 24, 2019, 06:34:55 PM »
I also have a question why many people advise adding soda to the water, or worse, caustic soda.This negates the idea of high-voltage resonant decomposition of water.High voltage simply cannot exist in such a conductive medium.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #407 on: November 24, 2019, 07:20:18 PM »
I also have a question why many people advise adding soda to the water, or worse, caustic soda.This negates the idea of high-voltage resonant decomposition of water.High voltage simply cannot exist in such a conductive medium.


Sure you are correct in this as what works best for Faraday style water decomposition works worse for Meyer style water decomposition. But there is something you have to know about me in that if I ask you a question I expect an answer and now with each and every post that you make on my thread will be followed up by that question until I get an answer from you stating you truly don't know or this is what it represents in your own words. The reason being is this question drives at the core of how this technology works and if one can't interpret the readings on a oscilloscope what chance do they have at understanding this technology? This is where being honest actually helps as I will provide the answer but first I want my question answered.


"What does the area under the curve represent on a oscilloscope for this technology?"


I hate to do this to you but it is a very important question and thus must not go unanswered.


Just keeping it real,
Edward


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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #407 on: November 24, 2019, 07:20:18 PM »
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Offline kolbacict

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #408 on: November 25, 2019, 08:26:14 AM »
If this is the current passed through the cell, then the area is the number of kulons passed in one or the other direction. :)

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #409 on: November 25, 2019, 09:15:14 AM »
Ok, enough of this.

I have tracked down the necessary information to lay this subject to rest.

https://www.blogtalkradio.com/waterfuelmuseum/2007/03/25/stephen-meyer-part-1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=NTHxWpXI-WY

In this series, you will hear Stephen say that his system is more advanced and that nobody knew how Stans stuff worked

I have examined this patent, and it seems the circuit is complete.

I have here the necessary synthesizer of this waveform, and now all that is needed is self wound double tap audio transformers. The 3 phase winding is now possible, all the hard work, done by me. You are free to do whatever you want, a microcontroller with a lowpass might be simpler, depending on how comfortable you are.

I believe, the amplifier should be N type mosfet as they are reliable and cheap, I also believe, that for scientific experimentation, non commutation state must be maintained.

Read up on these and how to make them efficient.

The goal here is not to have 100% efficiency. Any heat-loss should be re-utilized for other purposes.

The ultimate goal is to determine if certain signals inflence the efficiency, and for this we need quality signals.

@ a certain frequency point, mechanical generator drop off in efficiency, now if the cell you build is static, its best to be able to reach higher frequencies.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #409 on: November 25, 2019, 09:15:14 AM »
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Offline h20power

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #410 on: November 25, 2019, 10:28:38 AM »
If this is the current passed through the cell, then the area is the number of kulons passed in one or the other direction. :)


Correct, and in physics it's known as the ability to do work. Thus if you see someone with a waveform that is only positive they are doing pulsed DC electrolysis and might as well do what everyone else does to make Faraday style electrolysis work better. But in Meyer's work the waveform is to be balanced with both positive and negative voltages being equal so in this way the work done to perform normal electrolysis simply isn't there as the two areas cancel each other out. In my experiments I have gotten the current down to just 0.3 mA which Meyer calls "Amp Leakage." This is how voltage can now do work as in this way a very high voltage potential difference can be place on the plates of the WFC which is basically mimicking a thunderstorm in nature.


In the first photo is of Max Millers waveform and the second my own. Things to note we both have the circuit hooked up the same way with the only difference being Max has just two cells hooked up in series and I have ten cells hooked up in series. Basically he over loaded the transformer and as a result it was not able to charge the negative voltage and all of that positive energy went through the water bath.


Now in the last two drawings each vertical line represents one pulse sent to the transformer with a total of five pulses sent to the transformer. When it is hooked up correctly it always puts a negative voltage ahead of the positive voltage and if the two are equal no current flows through the water bath. But there is always a little energy left over at the end that will pass through the water bath as shown in the last drawing.


Can you see just how important that question is now?

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #411 on: November 25, 2019, 05:39:40 PM »
No, this is garbage, and since your gofundme efforts are dead in the water, I guess this is the right thing to call you out in order to keep the facts straight. There is a much better experimenter out there than you, his name is Valyon. Now I am not sure what his level of progress,
but it seems he is farther than you.

Unlike you, he sees value in the paper of Stephen meyers, wich is great, as it is an unexplored avenue.

You dont know more than anybody on this subject, I can go get a stranger down the street, give him my circuit, and he will have progressed farther than you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw4ADWjDt60&t=726s

Once we try the stephen stup, we can call it a day, and say we explored all Meyer avenues, and confirm that: The meyers were nothing but scamming trash.

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« Reply #411 on: November 25, 2019, 05:39:40 PM »
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Offline h20power

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #412 on: November 25, 2019, 06:35:12 PM »
No, this is garbage, and since your gofundme efforts are dead in the water, I guess this is the right thing to call you out in order to keep the facts straight. There is a much better experimenter out there than you, his name is Valyon. Now I am not sure what his level of progress,
but it seems he is farther than you.

Unlike you, he sees value in the paper of Stephen meyers, wich is great, as it is an unexplored avenue.

You dont know more than anybody on this subject, I can go get a stranger down the street, give him my circuit, and he will have progressed farther than you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw4ADWjDt60&t=726s

Once we try the stephen stup, we can call it a day, and say we explored all Meyer avenues, and confirm that: The meyers were nothing but scamming trash.


You Armcortex will be ignored until hell freezes over.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #413 on: November 25, 2019, 06:54:18 PM »
I guess free energy will never happen then  :-*

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #413 on: November 25, 2019, 06:54:18 PM »
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Offline ramset

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #414 on: November 25, 2019, 07:07:59 PM »
Arm  you feel so strongly START YOUR OWN TOPIC
please remove your Nasty comments here

some of us have much gratitude for Ed's contributions and are trying to follow and do some experiments.
if you post something that Peeps can play with ??start your own topic.

no excuses

Offline Toolofcortex

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #415 on: November 25, 2019, 07:14:26 PM »
The title of this thread is appropriate.

Stanley Meyers explained: The story of Stanley Meyers is the story of a man on a 20 year quest in order to free american from oil dependency. It seems however that this man could not manage to accomplish his goal in a 20 year period, to fail to pass along the intelligence to accomplish what you preach raises questions. Many have tried and been left in poor mental state, as can be seen.

If anything, the twin brother of Stan should be trying to redeem his brother by giving us a good paper.

But maybe he too, has the same "meyer tendency" to create a ponzi out of something that looks real.

I think a community effort, aimed @ recreating this paper is a low investment-high gain activity.

H2Opower, that man wont be you specifically, I dont think you are competent enough to be honest.

2700$ is enough money to make this.

If you are not the type that is 100% DIY to keep costs down, you are not the tyoe to be doing this.

A high number of the same cell is just a waste, what is needed are circuit brains type person with unique setups,
that have high flexibility. And, to understand the role of the impedance matching.






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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #415 on: November 25, 2019, 07:14:26 PM »
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Offline h20power

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #416 on: November 27, 2019, 05:45:59 AM »
If this is the current passed through the cell, then the area is the number of kulons passed in one or the other direction. :)


Now before we were rudely interrupted did you see just how this technology is different from that of Dr. Faraday's electrolysis method? When the waveform is correct the only thing left to do work is voltage as the current cancels itself out. Just like in a thunderstorm the high voltage potential difference can now do the work of breaking the bonds of the water molecules by getting at the atoms to eject their electrons and no electrons no holding force to keep the molecules together.
Meyer's Voltage Intensifier Circuit is a way to mimic the Global Electric Circuit electronically making it so we too can break the bonds of the water molecules and more as the technology goes much further than just making use of water as a source of fuel.


As you can see from Max's and my waveform when the waveform is right it cancels out the current as I have the reading to prove it and if you pay close attention to Max's video you can see heat waves being generated as the current is flowing through the water. It's just as Meyer stated in the New Zealand video that the current is canceled out by magnetic fields. The oscilloscope allows us to see the action and verify everything mathematically. In physics these are just work summation problems adding up all the energies and for each pulse sent to the VIC transformer two pulses come out be it one negative and the other positive and as long as they are close to equal there will be little to no current flowing through the water bath as the sum of the energies is zero.


Basically with all that I have posted on this form it should clearly show that this technology does in fact work scientifically as thunderstorms do it each and every day on this planet and have been doing so much longer than I have been alive. This all goes to show that anyone claiming that this technology breaks the laws of physics simply doesn't understand those laws well enough to be making that assumption.


Here is a funny video showing how to add up work problems enjoy everyone and give the man a thumbs up! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z01om-Qk2xM

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #417 on: November 27, 2019, 06:47:21 AM »
Can you please stop using Max's videos and pictures?

For 2700$ I could have offered the public a better show.

Now your time has passed.



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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #418 on: November 27, 2019, 06:55:25 AM »
I have been quite nice with you, I have squeezed you to a mush, but I offered you an escape avenue, but you seem to be stuck my friend.

I have always proposed that you spend less, and think more, and do this instead, wind your own coils. Have you read my lectures in the years past?

For 2700$ I could have offered the public a better show.

Now your time has passed.

The Stephen Meyer cell looks like a star of David, you like that correct?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=NTHxWpXI-WY

Look at him, look at all his home videos, can you imagine the stuff hes got that you dont got, the suff he knows that you dont know?

Wouldnt you love to just tear that engine apart? Wouldnt you love go through all his belongings?




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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #419 on: November 27, 2019, 07:11:55 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF0t0L1J2l4

Here, the stephen meyers looks like a star of david and  a Joe cell.

 

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