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Author Topic: Stanley Meyer Explained  (Read 220807 times)

Offline L505

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #150 on: August 25, 2009, 01:51:24 AM »
@L505

After re-reading your "Questions" several times, so I had some idea of what you were really asking, I can offer a small start.  First, there are two ways to create ions.  One is to add an electron.  The other is to remove one. 

You need to add energy to pop off an electron. The problem is when you strip 4 electrons from the Oxygen atom, you have to spend a lot of energy to pop those electrons off. When you ignite the gases and the water comes out the tail pipe, you got the same energy back as what you did to pop those 4 electrons off.

I think you are discussing the water fuel cell, though. Whereas I am discussing the spark plug injector which uses stripped oxygen, gas processor, etc. Well this is one problem with Stan's devices, he never clearly separated them. Was the gas processor and stripped oxygen also used with the water fuel cell? I guess it was in later stages.


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« Reply #150 on: August 25, 2009, 01:51:24 AM »

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #151 on: August 25, 2009, 01:57:31 AM »
Yes there is a way to steal the electron from the oxygen atoms this reaction takes place when you start to have ionization by collision inside your cells works like a chain reaction 1 electron is liberated is recirculated by the tank and again shot in the water again to knock out more electrons.

So you are saying that some how one can take an electron away (very little energy), and then the other electrons follow without spending energy, due to a chain reaction.  What causes it, and where did this free energy come from? The chain reaction is powered by what? molecular movement? Molecular wind?

With a magnet, if you take one magnet and repel another magnet,  it does not create a chain reaction where millions of other magnets give us free energy. All the magnets are part of the strain in the whole system and you need to add energy to get passed each magnet. The magnet analogy might be bad, but this why the magnet motor and toy magnet car tracks by Howard Johnson didn't turn out, and why he made some assumptions that were false which led him to never getting his dream working.  It's still possible Stan had similar dreams and theories, and hoped one day his water fuel system would work, and maybe it never did. Maybe it did. No one saw his spark plug injector work for sure, but I hope it works. It needs to be explained though, and that is why we are here asking questions about how his device worked.
« Last Edit: August 25, 2009, 06:01:03 AM by L505 »

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« Reply #152 on: August 25, 2009, 06:21:17 AM »
Some advice for people building devices:

First prove that a remote control car works, and then you don't have to spend thousands of dollars moving a 3500 pound vehicle down the road - you only have to power a 2 pound r/c gas engine car.

Stan used a dune buggy but I'd go one step further in downsizing so that you literally do not even need a garage parking stall. A r/c car with a gas engine does not require a garage, it requires a tiny shop. It is also less dangerous if the r/c car blows up your shop, because there is only a tiny bit of fuel and all your parts are cheap to replace.

Why not use a remote control car, small, cheap, as the first prototype. Get a gasoline R/C car running on hydrogen. Then you don't need big expensive equipment - you just make the tiny water spark plug.  All the parts are smaller. For example you do not need a large metal lathe, now you only need a tiny metal lathe that you can get for under $300. All your engine parts are extremely cheap and you can work on the little car inside a small room - no need for a huge garage or barn. The costs of developing and testing on a full sized family car are horrifying.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #153 on: August 25, 2009, 12:23:55 PM »
I'm going to try it over and over again this way at least meyer and many others claim that it could work using resonance.
Meyer tried to fool everyone making people think his vic was resonating from theory about lc circuits it prove to be wrong and lc circuits prove to work as i said.

The is no voltage with no current. ok if you could use a 1 pf capacitor and 10000henries inductor for say you could have 40kv 1 ma recirculating but give me a break this is not even possible to work with this values.
So what i say must be right the values are quite possible the voltage is similar the input current is similar so i think to have understood where he tried to fool us. Ok i didn't have tested it yet. but have you ever saw anything about what i'm saying on internet? no
not even i 

so why?

Meyer protected his technology very well under a name Resonant cavity witch means very high Q tank circuit.

So believe me or not is your choice i ask for money as i finished all i have and now is difficult to get more and as i need to test this i find is fair to ask to people in internet that are working or would like to work or just believe its possible or at least believe what i'm saying is true to help me as if it comes out will be good to everyone.

A little car is much more difficult because i think you need at least a min production to achieve the chain reaction i'm talking about. its called collision.
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/488507/radiation/28820/Particle-aspects-of-light#ref=ref398827
http://www.sayedsaad.com/High_voltge/insulating_gases/insulating_gases_3.htm
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #154 on: August 25, 2009, 08:56:02 PM »
So believe me or not is your choice i ask for money

Open your own thread and stop spamming your money requests in this thread.

No one needs any money if they know how Stan's device works. People that need money are the ones who don't know how Stan's device works, so they need lots of money to fart around and figure out how it works using experimentation instead of understanding the theory.

EITHER THAT or you are looking for cigarette/bread money - go get a job at a grocery store.


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Offline h20power

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #155 on: March 20, 2010, 06:15:02 AM »
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #156 on: March 22, 2010, 06:56:10 AM »
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Most importantly Stan never clearly explained how 4 electrons are stripped without expending energy. Electrons are not just waiting to be stripped for free. It takes great energy to strip electrons from atoms. That's what people don't understand when it comes to energy levels, and that's why there are all the free mol energy assumptions/miscalculations.

Now if you've discovered some magical way to strip electrons without expending energy, then you've gotta back it up with a sound theory and not quackery or assumption ("they'll just knock off because I said so due to my magical wave theory" isn't good enough).

People assume that it doesn't take much energy to knock off the electrons from the atom and that is simply not true.

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Offline ramset

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #157 on: March 22, 2010, 02:36:45 PM »
L505

Magic ?
or good engineering??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKPrGxB1Kzc

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #158 on: March 22, 2010, 04:32:42 PM »
Funny, I can strip electrons off of oxygen with only 5 watts of power! It's called an "Ionizer"...

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #159 on: March 22, 2010, 11:10:49 PM »
L505

Magic ?
or good engineering??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKPrGxB1Kzc

Chet

Let me get this straight, you actually think GOD created this? God who is supposed to be a good being? You think God engineered this for a laugh one day? Along with satan? You think god supports machine guns and laughs when we kill people too? Was it engineered at all?

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #160 on: March 22, 2010, 11:14:30 PM »
Funny, I can strip electrons off of oxygen with only 5 watts of power! It's called an "Ionizer"...

Funny, so can I - but then again I can also run a light bulb that is 5 watts and that doesn't mean the light bulb is producing 50000 watts of free electricity.  Electrons are like sticky magnets. It takes energy to pop off the electron from the atom, similar to how it takes energy to pop a magnet off another magnet. When you put the magnets near each other again (flame) and the magnet pulls the other magnet into it, you get back the same energy as you took to pry them apart.

If you can explain where the free energy comes from instead of just vague handwaving that "it takes 5 watts" then you're on your way to winning the noble prizes. For example, if you use 5 watts, your engine will be 5 watts - unless there is some other magic you are not explaining - which must be the case - or you're a quack. Don't get me wrong, I'm open minded - but vague handwaving from you folks and sending cute shrimp videos (which prove nothing) isn't gonna help much.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #161 on: March 22, 2010, 11:49:54 PM »
Most importantly Stan never clearly explained how 4 electrons are stripped without expending energy. Electrons are not just waiting to be stripped for free. It takes great energy to strip electrons from atoms. That's what people don't understand when it comes to energy levels, and that's why there are all the free mol energy assumptions/miscalculations.

Now if you've discovered some magical way to strip electrons without expending energy, then you've gotta back it up with a sound theory and not quackery or assumption ("they'll just knock off because I said so due to my magical wave theory" isn't good enough).

People assume that it doesn't take much energy to knock off the electrons from the atom and that is simply not true.

Do you always argue with gibberish? This is the post I was addressing in the first place and now you want an answer to something else? Go educate yourself and figure it out like the rest of us! It helps to know what the hell you are debating in the first place. With the few nonsensical words you have written, it is clear you do not have the capacity to ponder such things let alone inadequate communication skills. If you truly believe this is all quackery, why hang around and argue about it? Is it because you are lonely?

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #162 on: March 23, 2010, 01:11:45 AM »
Do you always argue with gibberish? This is the post I was addressing in the first place and now you want an answer to something else? Go educate yourself and figure it out like the rest of us! It helps to know what the hell you are debating in the first place. With the few nonsensical words you have written, it is clear you do not have the capacity to ponder such things let alone inadequate communication skills. If you truly believe this is all quackery, why hang around and argue about it? Is it because you are lonely?

Look up something called "burden of proof" and "shifting the burden of evidence" and such phrases. When you are done that, please come back.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #163 on: March 23, 2010, 01:15:17 AM »
by the way, I believe that my car can run on chinese green tea bags and nothing else, because tea gives people less cancer so why shouldn't my car run on it? I just have a hunch but no evidence so you are to LOOK IT UP and don't bother asking ME for any evidence because I THINK my car can run on green tea bags so it must be true, until YOU prove it cannot work

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #164 on: March 23, 2010, 01:34:59 AM »
Actually, I can prove that you may be able to run your car on "Chinese Green Tea Bags". Why would I ask you for any evidence, when you clearly have no clue? Are you asking me for proof or evidence? Of what? That I can strip electrons off of molecules with a small amount of power? Easy Cheesy! How will you prove it cannot work? With your hypocritical hand waving?

 

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