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Author Topic: Stanley Meyer Explained  (Read 227911 times)

Offline h20power

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #105 on: April 09, 2009, 09:11:49 AM »
I for one know that the Gas Processor is the most important part of Stanley Meyer's technology for at the end of one of his patents he says it can be used with any type of fuel, and as we have all seen that the Gas Processor can be driven by any high frequency switching type transformer as the MIT video demonstraited. Without the Gas Processor you can get no thermo explosive energy all you will get is 286 kJ/mol or perhapes a bit more if hho is produced. But that is no where near the energy content of gasolines 4k-5k kJ/mol depending on the grade used. Remember it all comes down to energy flux density and water for fuel with the Gas Processor has far more energy content than fossile fuels.

And kinesisfilms please don't talk to him for he is not worth it lets just run right over him for we are all making great progress right now ;) I for one am not going back for road kill ::)

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #105 on: April 09, 2009, 09:11:49 AM »

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #106 on: April 09, 2009, 11:12:34 AM »
WOW...

This is really a disheartening read :(

I really gotta say we've got our hearts in the wrong place with all the bickering going on here... There seems to be a lot of egos running a lot of the posts here :\ I thought the prupose of this forum was to AID in the R&D process for these devices.

@h20power

Firstly - A huge thanks to the obvious hours upon hours of research you've done in this area.

I hear what youre saying that the concepts involved with building these devices should be understood by the builders before we attempt to build them - as such, we should do the research and learn the concepts before building.

even if the logic holds for that, I dont think its the right way to go - we can learn by talking about this and reading schematics just as well as we can learn by reading the publications, patents and read up on fundamentals of the science involved here as you have.

My quesitons is - why waste all that time? Youve boiled it all down already - why go through the process again? It just doesnt seem right to come here and release some information and then withold some because its better that we learn for ourselves.

In reality, a lot of discoveries that became the threshold of a big breaktrhough happen by chance anyhow - they happen when people experiment and discover for themselves how things work. Its for this reason that inventors come up with their own verbiage for the concepts theyve indentified that are at play within their devices.

Some of us are inventors - some of us are experimenters, some of us are just interested in alternative energy - the bottom line is, not all of us are capable of investing the time and money to build designs and testing them nedlessly. It IS needless if someone else can speak from experience or from knowldege on the subject thats needed.

You've said that these people are not suited to this field of work if they do not have the resources to invest. Well, frankly, I disagree - everyone who has a heart for helping the planet is useful on this website - Teach them to fish, and they'll teach others for you. If I show your average joe how to build an OU device - even if he doesnt understand it - as long as I'm able to communicate how to replicate the design and what pitfalls/safety issues to watch for - then there's another happy person who can now help their family weather the coming storm.

We really are talking about the lives and well being of humanity when talking about the far reaching implications that renuable alternative energy can afford. Why waste time with all this elitism? I have to strongly agree with those who have said that now is not the time for homework.

(I'm not saying we should disregard the science behind the subject, but instead, bring it front row center into the discussion instead of asking us to sort it out for ourselves)

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As for the rest of you people being critical of eachother over spelling or being ciritcal of the presentation of arguments... all that is irrelevant - as long as we know what the message is, it is not necessary to criticize the quality.

we all bring different tools to the table here - You may not feel that theyre all useful but, why not see how we can make them useful instead of just saying theyre not suited to research - after all - anyone who makes an honest effort to contribute here can be helpful.

Edit: Almost forgot - Huge props @Farrah Day - I'm with you!

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #107 on: April 09, 2009, 01:39:24 PM »
In spite of the bickering here,I can still pull water out of thin air and create a system for refueling a water powered car automatically.Now you guys just need to recreate Stanley Meyer's device for pulling water apart.My design could be used to refuel as a car is sitting or running 24/7.Triffid

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #107 on: April 09, 2009, 01:39:24 PM »
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Offline dankie

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #108 on: April 09, 2009, 02:55:29 PM »
In spite of the bickering here,I can still pull water out of thin air and create a system for refueling a water powered car automatically.Now you guys just need to recreate Stanley Meyer's device for pulling water apart.My design could be used to refuel as a car is sitting or running 24/7.Triffid

Make a video and a guide on how to make your thing .


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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #109 on: April 09, 2009, 03:03:43 PM »
Sounds like Triffid could be using a similar setup to whats used in a dehumidifyer to pull water out of the air.

Simply put, a peltier element will work to produce a cold surface for condensation to accumulate..

check this out for some more ideas:

http://www.ecoloblue.com/en/home-office


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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #109 on: April 09, 2009, 03:03:43 PM »
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Offline Farrah Day

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #110 on: April 09, 2009, 05:46:00 PM »
Agreed Phantasm, he has a dehumidifier.

The mystery to me is, why he would want to go to all that trouble when water is so freely available from numerous other sources anyway?

Useful perhaps if you're caught out in the desert, providing of course that you have the means to power it - but then you'd probably want to drink it not put it in your car!

Has it's applications, but frankly I can't see the relevance to powering a car on water, as you'd simply recycle the water emitted.  Furthermore It would likely be just another - and unnecessary - drain on power.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #111 on: April 09, 2009, 06:31:50 PM »
I for one know that the Gas Processor is the most important part of Stanley Meyer's technology for at the end of one of his patents he says it can be used with any type of fuel, and as we have all seen that the Gas Processor can be driven by any high frequency switching type transformer as the MIT video demonstraited. Without the Gas Processor you can get no thermo explosive energy all you will get is 286 kJ/mol or perhapes a bit more if hho is produced. But that is no where near the energy content of gasolines 4k-5k kJ/mol depending on the grade used. Remember it all comes down to energy flux density and water for fuel with the Gas Processor has far more energy content than fossile fuels.

And kinesisfilms please don't talk to him for he is not worth it lets just run right over him for we are all making great progress right now ;) I for one am not going back for road kill ::)

h2opower

H2opower,

I find your theory dangerously over-simplified., you are not hearing me , you wish to build a VIC , a cell , and a Gas Processor , the VIC is needed for gas production . But I wanna make only a VIC and injector , I believe there is a dipole excitation going on here and a charge that is unaccounted for .

This VIC is meant to go with very small tubes , I have heard rumors that Stan used this VIC on each of his tubes for the cell , every tube had its own VIC , the VIC 6-1 is the best and only VIC stan was bringing into production .

As I have said before , the water goes into the injector and gets blown away in the motor , no laser no leds nothing , all magnetic field stuff , the added power is this charge from the vacuum .






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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #111 on: April 09, 2009, 06:31:50 PM »
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Offline h20power

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #112 on: April 09, 2009, 06:33:22 PM »
Now I am going to set this up as an engineering project as a result I will not tell you how to build, construct, and/or design your projects if you so choose to make them. The idea is simple, to get as many different models as possible that all work. You will be shown where the power truly comes from and how everything works for the water fuel injector system, not the WFC in use with the gasous type injectors. Read them as a set of rules to follow, anyway you see fit on how to apply what you have read is up to you.

Again I stress that this is to be a engineering type project, the full build of the design shall come from the individual and/or teams that want to work together on it. And most important of all is to have fun ;D.

Enjoy: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3217-stanley-meyer-explained-7.html#post47874

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3217-stanley-meyer-explained.html

Hi Phantasm,
On this site I go over many different things about Stanley Meyer's patents & technology and my reasons for setting it up as an engineering type project is for the best. For if any of you don't know this already one of my designs was blocked from being made, more than likely by those that don't want this technology to see the light of day. I am just one man and as they have shown me my ideas can be blocked, but blocking everyones ideas from the internet is impossible, for one of us is bound to make it through the net. Plus as I stated just building it is not enough you have to understand it. For when it malfuctions how are you going to fix it? Going to take it to the dealership to have it fixed? Not! Going to search me out and demad that I come over there and fix it for you? Not! Or how about just build a whole new one and throw away the one that stopped working? Big time Not! For starters the whole set up should cost the individual somewhere between $2500-$3000 US or more. Someone I know got a quote on the machining the VIC transformer of $400 each and for the a four cylander car that should require 6 VIC transformers to be built costing $2400. Now if you build the transformers yourself the cost is a fraction of that cost, but the parallel bonded or bifilar wire is also costly and there seems to be know what around that. Then add in the cost of building the Gas Processor say $1600, and then this injectors $400 each or more. These are just cost that I am getting someone out there can beat these cost, and if the rule holds someone out there can build all of this better than I can.

But if I just post all of my designs and circuits no one will even try to build it better for they will just copy and paste, leading to being blocked when those people protecting their interest come to stop the technology for all they would have to do is find a weak point in my designs and take down the whole project. Sure, like you, I see the storm on the horizon, but I also know that just copying is not the answer, for this storm is geared to kill an estimated 4 billion people for that is what "they" want. What I am really waiting on is for people from all walks of life to start showing me, and the world, what they are coming up with as a solution to the engineering problem at hand. I have seen just two designs besides my own, and heard of two more being built by Dankie's team and Kinisfilm's team so that makes five totally different designs that more than likely will all work. That is why I say either get busy designing or get busy dieing for like it or not that is the choices you have been given.

Best of luck to us all,
h2opower.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #113 on: April 09, 2009, 07:13:23 PM »
H20 is right , H20 is a builder .

H20power , I can help you reduce your costs , its not really that bad  :)

This is an engineering challenge , the more people doing their variations the better , but the problem is its mostly just bullshitters here and patent thieves ...

Mostly "imaginary" experimenters that only have 200$ that they will ever spend , close to the tent city ... Or these silent Geniuses types , who only take a few bits and replicate it in secret *cough* 2(WFC.ORG)iM CURIOUS If this is really whats left out there ... They are a few exeptions ofc who are trying their best , but sometimes trying your best on something stupid is actually bad ...








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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #113 on: April 09, 2009, 07:13:23 PM »
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #114 on: April 09, 2009, 07:41:21 PM »
once again...something is not right here......Phantasm and Farrahday might be one in the same.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #115 on: April 09, 2009, 08:07:51 PM »
Hi Dankie,
Those are worste case possibilities, the Gas Processor is costing me around $750 to build and I'm okay with that for now. Since I make the VIC transformers myself the cost of making them is way down for I don't have to pay someone $60-$75 per/hour to machine them for me. The electronics are about $60, and the injectors I am still working on, but I am not doing it like Stanley Meyer's at all, but I am following all the rules and as a result staying within 14% of the patent so no one can block me with patent stealing for I intend on riding Stanley Meyer's patent since it has expired. Stanley Meyer did all the hard work of getting it patented so why should I try and jump through the same hoops he did, when I could just use his patent and be safe.
The design that got blocked was outside of Stanley Meyer's patent protection and got blocked quickly as a result. I wont make that same mistake twice and vow to stay within 14% of the patent.
For anyone wanting to know it is this tube that got blocked from being made:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3217-stanley-meyer-explained-9.html#post51165
And caused me to take the whole design back to the drawing board, sort of like taking a medical pill back to formula, something know one wants to hear let alone do, and it increased the cost 277% :'(. But now I learned my lesson and things are going smoothly again. :)

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #116 on: April 09, 2009, 10:45:56 PM »
its obvious because he allways has one flaw.. fancying himself or herself in his or her comments  to his or her other screen names.. i just laugh.. but i feel bad because its like one step backwards when the newbs  reads it.. puts there minds in a catch 22. dont know who is write since its getting distorted.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #117 on: April 09, 2009, 10:48:29 PM »
once again...something is not right here......Phantasm and Farrahday might be one in the same.

I get that you guys have a lot of trouble with people being myschievious here and being that there's no way to prove or disprove anything in this regard, I suppose you can believe what you will

I only hope that you can still be critical of the message independently of being critical of the messenger

Thanks,

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #118 on: April 09, 2009, 10:57:40 PM »
I get that you guys have a lot of trouble with people being myschievious here and being that there's no way to prove or disprove anything in this regard, I suppose you can believe what you will

I only hope that you can still be critical of the message independently of being critical of the messenger

Thanks,
Not another annoying "smooth talker" , theres enough of you around here .


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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #119 on: April 10, 2009, 12:14:46 AM »
Hi! H20power, I am new to this forum. I've been reading several forums for the last year or so on Stan Meyers and about anything i could research about him and his work. I never realy wanted to join a forum until i started reading this thread for i find it very interesting. I have been working on this for over a year now. And like most people im getting no where with it. I Think you show a new outlook on the way it should be built and work. I intend on putting your ideas and math to good use (for it all adds up). I hope you and everyone welcomes me here for i may need help from time to time......I am a Machinest by trade and i am willing to help out in any way i can in that feild of work..

Thanks,
Gpssonar

 

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