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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #915 on: February 07, 2023, 04:04:21 PM »
I think this is the schematic for it.  If Ed would like to see more, I'll post once I get his approval.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #916 on: February 08, 2023, 03:24:56 AM »
Dear Ed,

Here's a blast from the past for you.

Spent more than a month decoding circuits, patents and troves of estate images to develop
this.  Made dozens of circuit boards and mailed them for free all over the world and yet,
you're still the only one working on this technology.  Some things do make me sad.




Hi Dog-One,


When it comes to this technology I found that most people attempting to get it working simply made no attempt to add any science to their work. Some even went as far as to say science can't describe this technology which anyone whom have read this thread knows is an untrue statement. Then you add all of that to folks not wanting to spend the monies it takes to buy all of the needed tools to be able to work with this technology nor purchase the correct materials to build the water fuel capacitor. But the worse was those that went and made changes to things without any understanding of how anything truly worked.


All the false information put out about this technology also played a major role in making sure anyone attempting to recreate this technology would ultimately fail in their efforts to do so. This in my opinion is what set me apart from everyone else working on this technology. As I put science first and moved to understand it instead of just copying what was spoken about in the patents or what others had to say about this technology after they handled it with their bare hands. Those whom sat on Meyer's technology while trying to figure it out where hoping that the pearl of wisdom would open up to them but after four or more years of trying it never did for them. I can still remember how mad Don Gabel got at me for sharing a photo he was charging folks $200 bucks or more to view of the WFC after I had solved in about thirty minutes what they couldn't in over four years dealing with this technology. I shared that in this thread I believe when I solved why the WFC was constructed the way Meyer did so to include why it was wired in series. I even explained why one of the resonant cavities were disconnected.


You see I fully understand that I do not see the world as most other people do after being made aware of then by my friend Gunther as I am very observant and loved to take things apart and put them back together again at a very young age. What I found to be interesting would normally bore most other people. But it took Gunther to point this out to me as when I first came into forums like these as I assumed everyone else was like me which was truly not the case at all. People love to try and compare themselves to me but I know they simply can not as I'm just not wired the same as everyone else.


But feel free to post your circuit in this thread if you wish to do so but know if folks don't put the scientific understanding first they simply will not be able to make heads for tails with this technology. I'll give one example of a mistake I see most people making. If you wish to build a multispool transformer to Meyer's specs for the injectors but wish to have that transformer power a WFC instead you must build the transformer to handle the increased load the WFC will place on the transformer. But here's the problem most have no idea how to rebuild the transformer so that it can handle the increased load being put on the transformer. The answer is simple, or that is to say simple to me, as one must increase the mass of the transformer so that it can handle much greater loads.
Instead of doing this people just assumed I didn't know what I was doing and move to bash me telling folks that you can't mix different types of transformers that Meyer built from earlier designs with his latest technology.


For me I understand this technology is very hard to understand as to get at the science behind this technology requires one to go over things mainstream science has already gone over but asking some very different questions than they did. That is precisely why no one truly can grasp the science I shared about this technology as those answers I found simply can't be found in a book of old right now as no one ever asked these types of questions before. I asked some original questions meaning questions that hadn't been asked before by anyone else. So, for me it's just learning how to build everything correctly as I already understand the science behind this technology which is why I am still working on this technology while the others simply faded away.


I really did try and get people to follow my lead but the hho community leaders were all telling people I didn't know what I was talking about even after they saw with their own two eyes that I was in fact applying a high voltage potential difference to the Water Fuel Capacitor. As a reminder I did so back in 2013 in a provable manor though in my little lab I had done so far earlier and to this day I have never seen anyone else show similar results. But I search YouTube all the time hoping to see someone else getting similar results as I did so many years ago.


Everything that I talked about in this thread leads people away from those forum leaders heading into a new direction but most simply don't like to buck the system or care to see or move to change the way of doing things based on one person's experiments even though that person is doing what Meyer described in his lecture videos of allowing voltage to take over while restricting the flow of current. I primary reason I feel most simply don't want to follow my lead is it requires a lot of monies to be spent in building things the right way, and purchasing all the tools plus the correct materials needed to complete this task. They do this because Meyer planted a seed in their hearts which is false when he said this technology can be built by off the shelf materials. Meyer told many things that would ensure he would be the only with this technology up and running to protect his patent rights. But folks in these forums simple can't seem to understand that's how he was.


Anyway, feel free to post your circuit but know without an understanding of this technology first folks will still be doomed to failure in their efforts to get this technology up and running. But know that I too failed many times with this technology as shown below.


Shalom,
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #917 on: February 08, 2023, 03:49:14 AM »
We are very much the same Ed, with one major difference:  I believed the science taught
to me and started from that point.  I ended up on a "No Outlet" road.  You didn't do that.
You proved to yourself every step of the scientific method by acquiring the resources
and doing the painful experiments.  I wish I would have done the same.  I now know
where I went wrong, but unfortunately it's way too late in the game for me to shift
back down to first gear and start over.  I do truly hope you stay on top of this and
achieve the goals you have set for yourself.  I think you can do it.  I'll probably be
watching from above, checking in on you, so don't be alarmed if you feel a strange
presence around you--it's only me, pointing you in the right direction.   :D

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #918 on: February 08, 2023, 06:31:21 AM »
We are very much the same Ed, with one major difference:  I believed the science taught
to me and started from that point.  I ended up on a "No Outlet" road.  You didn't do that.
You proved to yourself every step of the scientific method by acquiring the resources
and doing the painful experiments.  I wish I would have done the same.  I now know
where I went wrong, but unfortunately it's way too late in the game for me to shift
back down to first gear and start over.  I do truly hope you stay on top of this and
achieve the goals you have set for yourself.  I think you can do it.  I'll probably be
watching from above, checking in on you, so don't be alarmed if you feel a strange
presence around you--it's only me, pointing you in the right direction.   :D


Thanks Dog-One as it's good to know someone out there thinks as I do and is in my corner rooting for me. But know it's not too late in the game as I was born in the 60's and am fighting to keep my body in good health as best I can. I'm thankful of some advise I was given by my chemistry professor about the passage of time as he taught me that, "It maters not how long something will take you to do but only when that time comes around where will you be?" With this perspective of time I kept pushing forwards.


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #919 on: February 11, 2023, 10:02:22 AM »
Hello Everyone,


Well, it looks like I will be able to move forwards once again as I will be getting the wire tensioners soon so that the coil winding machine doesn't snap the wires in the middle of attempting to make the VIC transformers. I'll be starting off where I left off in making these tri-bobbin transformers for as of yet I haven't been able to test them out as I needed to purchase more stuff so that I would be able to build them. I just hope the sealing resin is still good as they do come with an expiration date and I think that time might have passed but I have no choice but to use it. Just know when you have little funds on hand as I do things take a lot of time to build.


Shabbat Shalom,
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #920 on: February 11, 2023, 03:46:05 PM »
Well, it looks like I will be able to move forwards once again as I will be getting the wire tensioners soon...

Excellent news!

I just hope the sealing resin is still good as they do come with an expiration date and I think that time might have passed but I have no choice but to use it.

I've been working with high voltage the last couple of weeks and have some thoughts
that may help you.

Epoxy is rated roughly at 450V/mil.  For my application, I'm trying to shield 28KV.  That
works out to 62.2 mils or 1.58mm.  I have found 2mm thickness does indeed hold back
any flashover.  It would take the equivalent of four layers of Kapton tape to do the same.

Being concerned about your resin, do try making some test strips with pointed electrodes
and apply some voltage.  Once cured you will know immediately if your epoxy is up to
the task.

I'm using the clear JB Weld pack with 4 ounces resin, 4 ounces hardener and though
I can't find a dielectric strength rating for this material, it does seem to comply with
the typical 450V/mil spec stated by other manufacturers.  This pack cost me about
twenty dollars and it's a lot of epoxy.  I have no means to vacuum cure the material
so during mixing and application I have to be very careful not to introduce air bubbles.
For my application, so far so good.  A bit tedious, but it's working.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #921 on: February 11, 2023, 07:30:26 PM »
Hi Dog-One,


The resin I use can withstand voltages 15-18kv/mm and has a viscosity between 8,000-10,000cps which will flow easily into the transformer while vacuum resin sealing the transformer bobbins getting all the air out. It's a messy process but it must be done or the transformer will simply short out within minutes of use when the voltages start to reach the threshold for ionization in the WFC. When I first tried to prevent these transformers from shorting out I used some transformer oil which did the trick to prevent the transformers from shorting out but after a bit of time the vibrations would cause the wires to rub off their protective coating and the transformer would once again short out. In this video I am getting all of the air out of the transformer bobbins using a vacuum pump, and a sealed container that I made. I use a shut off valve to control the vacuum pressure and a vacuum gage so that I can sort of pulse the vacuum chamber to get all the air out of the windings.


It's simple but messy but it has to be done or the transformer will not have a long usage life. [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0gH4IX5r7g[/size] I built this and got a vacuum pump from Amazon. The valve and gage I think I got from Ace Hardware or Lowes. Now I use a different vacuum chamber I purchased from ebay and got a class cutter so that I can place the bobbins into the glass bottles and not create too much of a mess. The resin needs to be very runny or it will not be pulled into the windings replacing the air with resin. Then once done I have to put the transformer bobbins in the oven to cure the resin for a several hours. I don't know if you remember when Russ made his injector transformer and failed to do any of this that resulted in his transformer happily shorting out on him way before it could reach the threshold of ionization in the injectors. In fact I don't even think he was able to hook it up to his injectors for testing as the transformer shorted out on him before he could do so. It's a learning process in building these transformers correctly so that they can last in a automotive environment. Lots of trial and error before I learned how to do it right.


Everything has to be done properly as most of the time I have the wire made to my specifications so that the transformers I make doesn't short out on me. It's a lot of hard work to build this technology correctly which is again something Meyer told a lie about when he went around talking about this technology in some of the lectures he gave. Now even when I took two of these transformers to the Global BreakThrough Energy conference I had a transformer short out on me as it couldn't dissipate the heat properly and suffered a meltdown internally as a result. The interesting part of that conference is I just built those transformers a day prior to leaving having never once tested them to see what they would do as the wire had just come in a day before we were supposed to head out to Colorado from California so that we could be there on time. [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ6G4yIyLdY[/size]


Shalom,
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #922 on: April 07, 2023, 01:29:02 AM »
I have some sad news as a good friend of mines in the hho technology "Robbin Dunham" passed away. He was the one that shared a photo with me that allowed me to solve a big part of this technology when those that were hording it couldn't make heads or tales of the technology. Plus are WFC designs where worked out together in order to update upon what Meyer had done. He will be missed as he was truly a friend and supporter of this technology and a good friend to me :'( .


Below is the photo he shared with me back in the day.


I will miss him as he always gave me words of encouragement and wisdom.


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #923 on: April 07, 2023, 03:17:31 AM »
Sorry to hear that Edward,

A friend who is willing to be constructive and supportive when he should, and also be critical at the right time is invaluable. I believe that he will be greatly missed.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #924 on: August 07, 2023, 02:58:37 AM »
Hello Everyone,


It's been a while since I've made a post on this wonderful forum and know it's because I have started a new job that is taking up most of my time. This new job is a bit tough on my body as well as my hands, shoulders, and sometimes eyes, hurt a lot or don't function properly. I managed to make it through the 90 day probation period and my body is starting to get use to all the hard work. The most important thing is with this new job I can move to purchase even more of the many things I need to further my efforts to bring this water for fuel technology into this world.


This is a photo of the newest transformer cores I will be trying out which are some of the largest cores I have ever used in my life but it seems to be heading in the right direction for me to be able to get my current WFC working consistently in an on demand basis. On the top is the transformer core I am currently making use of, and is shown above on this page with the transformer bobbins, and on the bottom is these new cores I will be getting soon. The cost of these cores is on the high side as it's going to cost me around $700 USD to get six of them for testing which by the way is their MOQ. Then I have to get everything else needed to put these new Voltage Intensifier Circuits together so that I can see if these new cores will work or not. These are simple the cost one must go through in order to advance this technology. With cost like these I fully understand why folks out there simply have given up on this world changing technology as simply put it has a great cost to get things up and running and even more cost to get started on implementing the technology into our world.


But I say to all of you reading this once this technology is said and done it will become a historic moment as the change that will follow will have been well worth the cost of the time and money I have put into getting this technology to do it's thing and free us everyday people from the bonds of the energy enslavement systems that control our lives. Thanks to everyone that have donated to the cause as it's a worthy cause to pursue so that we can take control of our own energy needs. For me it's hard to believe I have been working at this since 2006 but as I once heard Meyer say, "I thought with the proper funding we could get this technology up and running in a few years time but reality shows that 20 years was more of a correct prediction," or something along those lines he said. I am now reaching that twenty year mark with just three years left to go and as I have shown everyone I am not the giving up type.


Hopefully this year will be the one that things finally get started on putting this technology to good use to improve the quality of life for everyone on the planet so we can start undoing the damage we have all contributed to with our use of fossil fuels and other damaging methods to support our way of life.


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
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some messages I've been getting
« Reply #925 on: August 27, 2023, 11:46:12 AM »
Hello All,


While I gather up the resources I think I need to further this technology I have been getting message from people whom think my ways are too harsh when it comes to sharing what I know. Like most these people fell for the propaganda that free energy is supposed to be free of charge. It shocks them to know that I did actually share the science behind this technology totally free of charge but due to the high cost to get this technology up and running no one that I know of outside of my small circle of friends is actually trying to do something with that information.


I might have spoken about this before but some of the items needed have a really large minimum order quantity (MOQ). The resin needed to keep the transformers from destroying itself has a MOQ of 30 gallons of resin which in turn needs to be mixed at a ratio of one to one with the hardener making the MOQ actually 60 gallons. I have long since forgotten the cost but I do know that quote I got has to have went up in price. I do know the cost was in the thousands of dollars. I have since found another supplier but their resin is untested as of yet but it's still not cheap to buy it's just that their MOQ is a lot lower than the other company.


I find that those that make contact with me to give me a piece of their minds are simply just greedy most of the time and wish I would just do more so that they can have this technology in their hands fully up and running without needed to do any of the ground work I am currently doing. I explain to them the high cost of building things correctly and they suddenly go quite, no apologies, no saying they are sorry for telling me off, and no acknowledgement of the truths I share with them when it comes to the high cost of bringing this technology into this world.


Add all of this to the way I've been treated in the past by some truly mean folks and it's a wonder I went ahead and shared the science once I had an understanding of the science behind this technology and not just kept it to myself. These types of forums haven't nice to me over the many years I have been at attempting to bring this technology into our world in a way were the public can have a chance to actually have it to better their lives. This last one that messaged me I told them the story of how when I would make any progress I was made to look like I was cheating and/or that what progress I was having simply wasn't important. With this technology the voltages must be raised to start the process of ionization of the atoms as it is that act of the atoms loosing their electrons that cause the water molecules to simply break apart into hydrogen, oxygen, and the generation of an electric charge. This last person that made contact with me can't grasp how the technology works even though I went out of my way to share the science behind this technology complete with the very questions I asked that allowed me to get at the science behind this water for fuel technology.


When it comes to my progress it's always slow going as I have to earn the money to buy the things I need and then find the time to get busy building, testing, and seeing if improvements need to be made on my version of this technology. I do however get tired of folks demanding things from me whom haven't taken the time to actually look into what I have shared over the years whom seems to never move to do any testing of their own to further their knowledge on this technology with hands on experimenting. In fact most of these people don't have the tools needed to be able to actually work on this technology in a manor where they can see just what they are doing. Someplace on this site I know I went over what tools are needed for one to be able to work on this technology effectively. And if memory serves me correctly I was told in general we don't need to buy these tools. It's sad to see these things but it is what it is I guess.


I wish there were more people working on this technology and sharing their results be it good or bad just to let folks know someone out there is still pursuing this technology in a way that might change the world one day for the better. But for now I will keep moving at my own pace and hope I can make a difference one day.


Shalom Everyone,
Edward Mitchell
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #926 on: September 04, 2023, 07:40:37 AM »
Hello Everyone,


Well, I put in the order the other day and the total cost was close to $750 USD for 6 transformer cores. I still need to purchase a few other things but now at least I will be getting the cores I need to take this technology further based upon my research data. Now more than ever I feel as if I am all alone working on this technology as it appears as everyone that was working on this technology has thrown in the towel and called it quits. Once there were many but now it seems to be just about a handful world wide that are still working on bringing this technology into this world. This technology has the power to set humanity free but it's going to take perseverance, dedication, and yes money to get this technology to start helping us in our time of need.


A world without the use of fossil fuels to power our machines, cook our meals, and heat & cool our homes is the goal, but who's still with me in this forum? Most don't seem to understand that hydrogen is what makes life as we know it on this planet possible as without it I think there would be no life. Everything depends on hydrogen be it plants, animals, or insects. Life as we know it simply isn't possible without hydrogen.
Now with this technology we can learn to live in harmony with all living things by making use of hydrogen to power our way of life as it already powers this world to make life possible. Oxygen levels will rise, carbon levels will drop, and then the planet will start cooling down a bit. What makes this technology perfect for everyday use is it already comes with all the oxygen it needs thus not converting the oxygen we all depend on to breath into something else like Carbon dioxide or some form of NOx gases. The time is right for this technology to come out now as this isn't going to be a quick fix as it's going to take many years to convert all of mans machines that require this technology.


One thing you all can say about me is I kept hope alive by never giving up working at a pace I could afford but never throwing in the towel.


Take care everyone, and if you wish to give some support I think the link to do so is still open: [size=78%]https://gofund.me/87a49b22[/size]

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #927 on: October 10, 2023, 08:16:48 PM »
Hello Everyone,


Well, it would seem there is a renewed effort to hide this technology as on YouTube one of my videos showing a clip from, "It runs on water," was blocked world wide. That video servers as "Eye Witness Accounts" of Meyer's technology working as they went over the technology and saw it working with their own two eyes. These eye witnesses talked about what they observed and fully admit they couldn't figure out how it was breaking the bonds of the water molecules with such little power input. [size=78%]https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6mqnu[/size]


I used the video to teach people about this technology as I seemingly have a gift of being able to ask the right questions. I pointed out a lot of things talked about from those eye witnesses. Things talked about in that video helped me to be able to see what I was doing in the past was incorrect as my water bath was heating up over time and Professor Paul Czysz said the device would be working for hours and the water temperature hadn't changed. That statement made me take a close look at what I was doing to see if I had over looked something and/or was just doing it wrong. I found the mistake and corrected the problem and I owe that to Professor Czysz eye witness accounts to Meyer's technology.


A lot of people attempted to make me look like a fool in front of the many forum members by telling them I didn't discover anything new but since I went the route of making use of the scientific method I had all the science behind what I was talking about and showing everyone backing me up.  You see this graph represented a totally new understanding on just how this technology actually worked scientifically and in order for someone to put the science down they would have to purchase the very same, or equivalent, equipment I had to show the world that I was just making things up out of thin air as they tried to prove with just words with no science backing them up. Needless to say they have all went away now leaving everyone who was truly interested in learning how this technology actually worked to study what I was presenting about this world changing technology.


I'm not sure why there is a renewed interest in putting this technology down but I'd guess it's coming from one of it's competitors who see this technology as a threat to their prosperity as "Just follow the money" leads one to the truth most of the time.


Peace and Shalom to all,
Edward Mitchell
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #928 on: October 19, 2023, 02:51:08 AM »
I was wondering where the lightning pic disappeared to... other thread ha!
anyways, here is a pic from Top gear, years ago.

An Iron conductor in a HV field. R is measurable and current is relative to V.




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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #929 on: October 28, 2023, 11:54:13 PM »
As I understand it from past readings of original Meyer documents, the pulsing transformer had the 2 L coils both wound on transformer secondary side, along with the secondary winding. The L coils were composed of RESISTIVE insulated magnet wire, - not copper, for high resistance. This was a low wattage ferrite transformer as the end result was not related to electrolysis. Molecular Polarity alignment with small current pulse, then high voltage pressure separating the water molecules, to very fine ionic charged bubbles that rise upward. The pulsing on + off of circuit allowed the ions to raise upward quickly and escape, since the concentric tubes SS cells were also of short distance height , and in multiples of electrodes.  I believed that the water capacitor total as C, reacted with the inductance , so as the input power supply had the same frequency as water cell. A  separate circuit board is necessary for automatic matching of the changing Frequency as the distilled water varies in quantity. The engine would have adjustable valve EGR applied so as the speed of combustion was slowed down using the entered contaminants such as Nitrogen from the exhaust air. The burst mode pulsing DC circuit is similar to the toy guns used in that laser tag game.