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h20power

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #885 on: November 14, 2022, 04:46:30 AM »
Hello Everyone,


I've been trying to see what I can get the old 8xa circuit to do as far as high voltage but it's tough as the circuit truly wasn't designed for it. For some reason it loses the ability to control the pulsing at only around 45 volts input from the variac. With the Voltage Intensifier Circuit things are different as it's a resonance circuit and getting high voltage isn't all that hard to do if things were built correctly. With this old 8xa circuit I think I'd have to change the SCR switch and make a much larger bifilar choke coil. Unless you truly know what you are doing none of you should follow my lead on this as this high voltage is dangerous and must be respected at all times coming from a microwave oven transformer. Here's the video: [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMebmZfiOAQ[/size]


Once I have the wire tensioners I'll be able to wind up the VIC transformer and use the 10 resonant cavity WFC. I'll more than likely make several different designs to test out too see which one works the best and is most cost effective.


From my research the plate WFC would need around 1650-1900 volts to reach the threshold for ionization and the 10 resonant cavity WFC is going to take around 8.5-9.5kv to reach the threshold for ionization. The plate cell puts a high load on the transformer due to the plate spacing being so close. The resonance WFC is much the same as Meyer's so not that much of a load will be placed on the VIC transformer. The highest voltages I took the plate WFC up to thus far is around 500 volts but it loses the ability to pulse it correctly at around 335 volts.


Anyway, once I have those wire tensioners I'll be able to get back working on the resonant WFC. This will more than likely be one of the very best built transformers ever done by someone as I am using a coil winding machine. It's sure going to be nice to see just what these newest line of transformers can do once they are built.


Take care all,
Edward Mitchell
Owner
True Green Solutions
https://gofund.me/94431e56

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #886 on: December 19, 2022, 08:41:14 PM »
Hello

The question?
WFC is it
 a water capacitor?
Polar capacitor? With very low capacitance?

No more questions!

Merci

h20power

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #887 on: December 20, 2022, 03:20:23 AM »
Hello

The question?
WFC is it
 a water capacitor?
Polar capacitor? With very low capacitance?

No more questions!

Merci


Direct answer is YES it is a capacitor. Is it a polar capacitor? Perhaps as the dielectric that goes in it is polar but I am not sure of this. The capacitance is on the low side say around 25-100 pF but that changes with the distance or spacing between the plates the closer the plates are together the higher the capacitance the WFC will have. Just know that this is a variable capacitor as when it starts producing gases those gases displace the dielectric fluid, IE water, that is between the plates causing the capacitance of the WFC to go down.


I hope that answers your questions and more, and thanks for the questions.
Edward Mitchell
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #888 on: December 22, 2022, 10:04:58 PM »

Direct answer is YES it is a capacitor. Is it a polar capacitor? Perhaps as the dielectric that goes in it is polar but I am not sure of this. The capacitance is on the low side say around 25-100 pF but that changes with the distance or spacing between the plates the closer the plates are together the higher the capacitance the WFC will have. Just know that this is a variable capacitor as when it starts producing gases those gases displace the dielectric fluid, IE water, that is between the plates causing the capacitance of the WFC to go down.


I hope that answers your questions and more, and thanks for the questions.
Edward Mitchell
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Hl Edward  Mitchell,

It's very nice to hear from you!!!

Merry Christmas
Best Regards
Vortex 22

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #889 on: December 24, 2022, 07:08:38 AM »
Thanks Vortex 22,


Just know I am very busy trying to finish up this technology as I hope to have it up and running sometime next week or in the beginning of the new year. Once the stuff I just ordered comes in I'll be able to finish this all up.
It's time to see how I do compared to all the others that tried to bring this technology out. Hopefully now is the right time and I don't end up like all the rest.


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #890 on: January 09, 2023, 06:53:35 AM »
Hello Everyone,


Well, it's looking like this year will be the year this technology makes another attempt to reach the marketplace as through True Green Solutions I will attempt to showcase this technology to interested parties. I'm be using a prototype circuit that will be refined as time marches on. Once I have things put together I am very hopeful that this technology will once again live again. It's taken a lot of time, money, and effort to get to where I am today with this technology. I am truly thankful for all the support I have received over the years from people whom can see my vision for this technology to make hydrogen the go too fuel of the future.


Hopefully I'll be able to afford something like this in the near future so that I can get a little production line up and running for this technology.


Take care everyone,
Edward Mitchell
https://gofund.me/94431e56




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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #891 on: January 17, 2023, 06:56:19 AM »
Hello Everyone,


Well, I was going to show the technology working but for some reason the circuit I made didn't work nor did the older circuit I was using. I'll have to pull a few things apart and see what's wrong. I just hope it's something simple.


I've been really busy as of late but I manage to find the time get in the shop today. Hopefully I will figure out what's wrong with the circuits as I can't do much of anything if I have nothing to pulse the transformer with.


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #892 on: January 17, 2023, 08:36:33 PM »
... as I can't do much of anything if I have nothing to pulse the transformer with.

You still have contact with Gunther?

Worst case, I suppose you can snag some MOSFETs, a power supply and use your benchtop signal generator.  Some pulses are better than no pulses at all.   ;)

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #893 on: January 18, 2023, 12:10:56 AM »
Hi,

I'm trying to replicate WFC?

Using inox 304
2 m * 1 m

My goal:
15 liter per minute hho production rate!!

In the standard way of electrolysis
2106 watts of input.

Rgds
Vortex 22

h20power

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #894 on: January 18, 2023, 02:42:54 AM »
You still have contact with Gunther?

Worst case, I suppose you can snag some MOSFETs, a power supply and use your benchtop signal generator.  Some pulses are better than no pulses at all.   ;)


Hi,


Yes I still have contact with Gunther but I'm not sure what's wrong as of yet, working too many hours to have the time to carefully look things over right now. I was all geared up to finally see just what will happen to me if I posted a working model of this technology but my circuits had other plans. I built Bradk's circuit along with Gunther's circuit and both didn't work for me. Once I figure out what's wrong I should be able to showcase this technology to the public if all goes as planned. But for me my primary reason is to get this show on the road as I feel now is the right time to attempt to bring this technology out.


I'm not sure just what the gas production is going to be but know that the gases coming out of this technology are far more energy dense than hho as they both come off in their monatomic state. Somewhere in this thread I posted the energy content of this process but from memory it's just below that of gasoline. Then from there the Gas Processor will add more energy content to the reaction. So, Vortex 22 just know this technology is a bit different than normal electrolysis in that the gases come off in their monatomic state as we are talking an up in energy content from I believe 286 kJ/mol for hho to around 3.5 kJ/mol for these same gases in their monatomic state.


My primary WFC has been redone so that it will work at much lower voltages but I have to build the transformer first before I can give it a go and now it looks like I have to trouble shoot the circuit to see if I can figure out why it's not working. Sigh, the story of my life it seems. Well, hopefully I'll get some time Friday.


Take care all,
Edward Mitchell
Owner
True Green Solutions
https://gofund.me/94431e56

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #895 on: January 22, 2023, 07:51:25 PM »
Hi,

I'm trying to replicate WFC?

Using inox 304
2 m * 1 m

My goal:
15 liter per minute hho production rate!!

In the standard way of electrolysis
2106 watts of input.

Rgds
Vortex 22
Just study this:
https://www.pbs.org/tesla/res/res_art05.html
HV HF zero amps, high impedance/resistance, made to study the effects of alternating high-intensity fields."The two halves are wound oppositely and connected in series"

h20power

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #896 on: January 23, 2023, 06:53:39 AM »
It's a good thing Vortex 22 more than likely knows not to listen to you two as this technology simply doesn't work like those examples you gave. It works as I have said it works over and over again by way of ionization as that's how this technology goes about breaking the bonds of the water molecules. The problem is it's not that easy to match a transformer to a WFC and it's even harder to understand the science behind it if you don't perform the experiments yourself following the scientific method. That means you have to get all the needed tools so that you can see just what it is you are doing like a differential probe for starters and a oscilloscope.


Shalom Everyone,
Edward Mitchell
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ramset

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #897 on: January 23, 2023, 06:11:18 PM »
Mr.Wizard
Respectfully we don’t need hints and great volumes of literature !
Your friend vortex22.. who you said was aware ?
Seemed to arrive unaware?


We could continue to fiddle or point fingers until our extinction…


Please share a bit more detail ( even to help your “already aware” friend!


The need is great !
Perhaps another topic ?


I believe the open source hydrogen section here has several good moderator /experimenters ( Grumage and Jimboot?
And I see Dog one …also very very familiar !
Respectfully
Chet K
EDIT for below
Mr Wizard
I see you preach a Devine connection to prejudgement and condemnation ( swine ..? ..some weird type of Devine ?

IMO
It takes a teacher …or we could waste another decade ….








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h20power

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #898 on: January 24, 2023, 06:47:18 AM »
https://www.philosophy.org/uploads/5/2/2/0/52207651/fulcrum_v1n2_august_1992.pdf

In October 1991 Stanley Meyer visited The University of Science & Philosophy (www.philosophy.org) formerly located at Swannanoa Palace.
Why?
In short, because Stanley believed the center of an atom was 'God' or a point of Omnipresent Universal vacuum aka "Stillness".
Dr. Walter Russell made this same claim decades before Stanley ever played with water, and his many books and lectures prove this point.
https://www.philosophy.org/store/p42/Space_and_the_Hydrogen_Age.html#/ published 1939!!!

So, if the goal of this thread is to Explain Stanley's technology... why not follow in his footsteps? perhaps follow his train of thought? and "ASK THE RIGHT QUESTION!"

A friendly tip to all on here.  ;D

-wlw


It's clear to me that you haven't read this thread as I am past Meyer now with my understanding of this technology in scientific terms and I shared this information with everyone free of charge. I did ask the right questions that allowed me to understand the science behind this technology and in this thread I am sure I even gave examples found in nature proving the theory I have for this technology, you know scientific proof?!


Now I will admit that I don't share everything that I am doing and that's because I worked hard to know what I know about this technology and after the video interview John Fraser gave of Gunther and I at the 2013 Global Breakthrough Energy Movement held in Boulder, Colorado, as I saw folks turn on me just because of the color of my skin. So, at that point in time when I realized that I was being singled out for my skin tone I basically refused to share anymore as I have just had enough already. I watch just whom folks wanted to be the one that brought this technology out and that someone quit this technology and moved on to something totally different several times never truly looking back at this technology ever again.


Then there are people like you whom come to my thread and just assume they know how this technology works moving to compare the technology to something it absolutely has no connections too. Then people like you will reach to unknows to sit in because it appears to be a safe place to sit back and hope someone like me will just give you a pass, NOT! In this thread I went over the science behind this technology and gave examples just like a good scientist is supposed to do. And to this date no one that I am aware of has reached the voltage levels I have reached with this technology and most still don't understand how to read the oscilloscope correctly in terms of science. I showed in this very thread just how this technology restricts the flow of amps flowing through the water bath and explained why the water never heats up with that explanation.


Since I went the route of making use of the scientific method it's a bit tough for someone to just come into this thread and point people in the wrong direction as again I gave examples. As for your being friends with Vortex 22 remember he ask me and not you. But in all truth I don't know either of you personally nor do either of you know me. Coming to this thread thinking pointing folks to an unknown truly isn't going to fly if anything to say about it I have.


In my point of view the reason why no one has duplicated this technology thus far is the fact there is so much bad information being put out about this technology designed to lead people away from just how it all works. Meyer himself was very good at hiding the technology in plain sight. Meyer made up words that only had meaning to him, made drawings that lied or left out the whole story, and went out of his way to make sure no one stole his work from him. That's the true Meyer not this figment of people's imagination that has been put in the place of the real man. But it wasn't wrong of him to want to profit from all of his hard work as capitalism would have it no other way, correct? When you think of things in the correct terms, you know, "Asking the right questions," you will start to see Meyer as just a man with a dream of having a successful business as he moved to change the world for the better. Unfortunately those that sell energy weren't ready to give up their primary cash cow back then and I really don't think they will ever be ready to part with that cash cow willingly of their own free will as long as there are profits to be made.


With this technology it is very hard to build a transformer to match a WFC properly. With all that bad and misleading information swarming around this technology it's very tough for people to ask the right questions let along answer any of them. I haven't found anyone who is willing to make use of the scientific method on this technology as that method will have one buying all the many tools they need, building one design after another until they get it right, and a whole lot more as it's a very long and costly endeavor. People in general are too afraid to fail.


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
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https://gofund.me/94431e56

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #899 on: January 25, 2023, 02:50:01 PM »
But my friend, you already know how!

use DC Capacitor Electrons Captor, and connect it straight to plates in water. WFC is just air capacitor plates in water. u can make electrolysis with simple AV plug, which is open circuit.
no need to pull so many watts to make gas!  ;D

if you add neutral plates to the cell, not connected, a la JoeCell, then amps drop even more and produce twice the gas!
I have made HHO gas with 0amps input, many times.

Thanks be to Joe, the modern water master.
Good luck!
-wlw
Hi all

Fascinating stuff !!

My friend WLW,

Show us !!  Say 7 L per minute of GAZ production rate ? please

Thank you
Vortex