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Author Topic: Stanley Meyer Explained  (Read 365284 times)

Offline h20power

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #765 on: April 24, 2022, 06:42:10 PM »
@H20Power

Quote from H2Opower 04/23/22

"Since I have made improvements to the technology improving it's efficiency I consider
that type of information company business and will not be talking about it with anyone."

END of that quote

                  Energy density and water vapor as the only byproduct.
These are two of the qualities which make hydrogen desirable as a fuel. 
                                              Stating the obvious...
Given that the production method requires an energy source, it follows that
stating / demonstrating the efficiency of the ratio of the input energy to the usable
output energy is the bottom line.

The method does not have to be O.U., just an improvement over conventional
electrolysis, in order that it has merit.

A quote from: h20power
     I really don't understand this comment as are you asking me to recombine the hydrogen and
     oxygen gases after it comes out of the Water Fuel Capacitor back into water? What purpose
     would that serve?
End of that quote


@H20Power

Really ? You are seriously asking " What purpose would that  serve ? "?   

What is the efficiency in these terms ?

       0.29307107 watts is equal to 1 BTU/hour

What is the ratio of the Watts (electrical) input to the BTU/hour output, of the
method you describe ?


Listen Floor, the boat your looking for has left the harbor. Perhaps you can jump on Tony Quinn's boat, even though it's heading in the wrong direction, but this boat has left harbor you missed it. The information you are seeking I am not going to be giving out to anyone as I have seen what happens to folks that did. I'm just bringing out this technology the best way I know how based on watching what happened to others that have tried the same thing.


True Green Solutions (TGS) is moving forwards with this technology following a plan I came up with that should allow me to live to tell the tale in the end. What's written in this thread is it as I will not be adding any more teaching's of this technology as that proved to be a lost cause.


I hope you understand but if not that's okay too as this isn't about you. This is about a dream I have carried for many years now in my heart to do something meaningful about our climate change problems and uplifting the quality of life for the poor. Phasing out the use of fossil fuels isn't going to be an easy task but it's something that must be done if my children and the future of other people's children are to have a future worth living for.


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
CEO and Owner
True Green Solutions
https://www.gofundme.com/f/energy-independence-for-you-and-me




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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #766 on: April 24, 2022, 09:19:10 PM »
So...

Your saying that to date, the method you are (no longer) presenting is less
viable than the more conventional methods we already have access to.

Are you then, asking for investments in some future possibility that a next
version will yield better, in to out, results ?

Offline h20power

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #767 on: April 25, 2022, 01:36:31 AM »
So...

Your saying that to date, the method you are (no longer) presenting is less
viable than the more conventional methods we already have access to.

Are you then, asking for investments in some future possibility that a next
version will yield better, in to out, results ?




Floor,


What I am saying is in order for you to get the information you are seeking you, or someone you know that is willing to share the information with you, are going to have to make use of the scientific method on this technology building, testing, observing the results, and asking and answering questions, and if it doesn't work try, try again until you get the technology up and running. I believe that is the only way you are going to get the information you are seeking from me. If you wait on the others that are still working on this technology to provide the answer to your questions I can tell you from the looks of it you are going to be waiting for a very long time before their ships are ready to leave the harbor.


I am not interested in your questions as I am only interested in getting this technology out to those that need it the most so that this technology can do what it was meant to do way back in 1968 which is end the system of energy enslavement. As a bonus to doing this the world will have a technology that can power their many machines with a clean and renewable technology that doesn't put any harmful emissions into our atmosphere, but in fact cleans the air while they operate their many machines using this technology.


So, to get the answers you seek you, or someone you know, are going to have to put in the work in order to get those questions of yours answered. I owe you nothing nor does my company True Green Solutions. My mission has already been stated and it's a good mission wouldn't you agree? Now, no more attempting to get any questions you have answered by me, okay?


Edward Mitchell
CEO and Owner
True Green Solutions
https://www.gofundme.com/f/energy-independence-for-you-and-me

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #768 on: April 25, 2022, 01:53:03 AM »

                partial quote

What I am saying is in order for you to get the information you are seeking you, or someone you know that is willing to share the information with you, are going to have to make use of the scientific method on this technology building, testing, observing the results, and asking and answering questions, and if it doesn't work try, try again until you get the technology up and running. I believe that is the only way you are going to get the information you are seeking from me. If you wait on the others that are still working on this technology to provide the answer to your questions I can tell you from the looks of it you are going to be waiting for a very long time before their ships are ready to leave the harbor.

Edward Mitchell
CEO and Owner
True Green Solutions
https://www.gofundme.com/f/energy-independence-for-you-and-me

H2Opower

Your statments are ridiculous.

You're promoting this technology when you don't even know off hand...

                        What the efficiency is in these terms ?

                      0.29307107 watts is equal to 1 BTU/hour

What is the ratio of the Watts (electrical) input to the BTU/hour output, of the
method you describe ?

Offline stevie1001

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #769 on: April 26, 2022, 09:16:09 AM »
Dear Floor, you are waisting time here.....
Mr. Mitchel has no life and likes to post here, because he can write the word ceo of his one man show company under his posts. A company that doesnt sell or delivers anything, sofar. Thats all.  8) 8) 8)


Cheers Mitchel! I see you made another friend  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  Its the story of your life, is it. All forums are full with your sh*t

Offline h20power

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #770 on: April 26, 2022, 06:54:27 PM »
Hello Everyone,


This post is just to give some context about this "Stevie" guy. While I was in his forum I was attacked due to the color of my skin by several members of his forum. When went to defend myself this "Stevie" sought to punish me for having the nerve to stand up for myself in a "White man's world" by suspending my account for a week or two. He did this while doing nothing to those that came against my skin color as far as I could tell. Once I was off suspension I took down all of the important things I had put on his forum and he didn't like that one bit and his next move after I took down all of the important post I had made on his forum was to ban me.


His, and those like him, worst fear right now is that I have this technology up and running as I am telling everyone that I am ready to move forwards with this technology. You see "they" do not want this technology if it is to come from a Negro as they have a really big problem with that concept even though the first to actually run a car with nothing but water in it's tank for fuel wasn't a white man but a Filipino man.


I have to deal with this hate all the time in my life and never have I backed down and I really have no plan to do so now. This is why I shared my story with you all as you need to know the history between this "Stevie" and myself so that you can make an informed choice and not be left in the dark about things like this.


Sorry for the drama everyone but the truth must be told,
Edward Mitchell
CEO and Owner
True Green Solutions
https://www.gofundme.com/f/energy-independence-for-you-and-me



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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #771 on: April 26, 2022, 07:18:30 PM »
You are such a shame for all colord people.
Using discrimination as a tool to make you look good...
But that what you do when somebody tells you the real truth.
You poor soul.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #772 on: April 26, 2022, 08:00:01 PM »
You see "they" do not want this technology if it is to come from a Negro
Not true. I want. I would take technology even from a Martian. ;)
I don't have any money, unfortunately.  :(
And I can't work out anything myself. :)

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #773 on: April 26, 2022, 08:28:53 PM »
You are such a shame for all colord people.
Using discrimination as a tool to make you look good...
But that what you do when somebody tells you the real truth.
You poor soul.


So, which part of my story is untrue? I was attacked racially on your forum, correct? You did suspend my account on your forum but not the others, correct? After my suspension ended I did take down a lot of my post from your forum, correct? AND You did ban me from your forum, correct? So again, which part of my story isn't true?


I will refrain from calling you a racist but your actions where in support of those that did racist things against me.


I am generally a fair man with those that actually make use of the scientific method and keep their noses to the grindstone of science. Where I have a problem is when people start lying and making things up based on how they feel not supported by anything scientific. People whom don't want to pony up the cash to get the needed equipment to be able to work on this technology effectively but say they should be listened to anyways. And of course those that just copy things and then run around arguing that they copied everything to the letter and never bothered trying to actually understand the technology, as what if a mistake was made then they copied that mistake too, correct?


I chose the path of understanding which is why when I speak about this technology now I sound so different than everyone else does that are currently talking about this technology. And hopefully there are only just a handful of people like you that will move to support the oil industry instead of this technology if it is to come from me.


Again my apologies to the forum for all of this drama but I guess it's time for the truth to come out now.


Shalom everyone,
Edward Mitchell
CEO and Owner
True Green Solutions
https://www.gofundme.com/f/energy-independence-for-you-and-me

Offline h20power

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #774 on: April 26, 2022, 09:04:03 PM »
Not true. I want. I would take technology even from a Martian. ;)
I don't have any money, unfortunately.  :(
And I can't work out anything myself. :)


Sorry kolbacict,


It's getting harder to see past the events taking place in America and around the world right now as someone like me is killed every 28 hours now by law enforcement and even more are being effected by blatant racism at random now than ever before. They have even killed one of my cousins because he wasn't moving fast enough to their conflicting commands.


I have had to deal with a lot of things during this journey to understand this technology fully in scientific terms. I have had to deal with people whom like to talk a lot but never move to actually performing even one experiment. I have run into people whom love to build things but hate testing those things they built out fully. I have run into folks that are just too poor to be able to get a serious start on this technology but have all the heart in them to do so. I'm sure I haven't seen it all but I have seen a lot as I have been working on this technology since 2006.


I knew going in that once I committed to making use of the scientific method that it was a long and slow process of elimination that I was going to have to endure through. I knew it was going to cost me a great deal of money as if the science said I needed to get something that something had to be got before I could move on. One thing I have shown people is I am man enough to apologies if I am wrong about something in a public way. I have had many heated debates with folks in the many forums I have gotten into over the years but in all of this I now seem to be the last man standing actually pushing this technology now. Everyone else has either moved on, given up, or have gone down a path where this technology simply doesn't exist.


One thing no one can say is, "His heart isn't all in for this technology." I follow my dreams and have went out of my way to encourage others to make use of the scientific method as they work towards trying to understand this technology. In the work that I can see from others no one has seemed to figure out just how to get a high voltage potential difference on the plates of a water capacitor as of yet. I have recently seen a few videos where investigator has gotten 1kv to their WFC which is well shy of what I showed in 2013 at the Global BEM held in Boulder, Colorado. Nothing about what I have seen others doing gives me hope that someone else is on the right track other than myself. In this thread I went out of my way to show the actual science behind this technology in scientific terms, but in order to understand the things I have shared one must be well versed in science as if one doesn't know how to solve work problems in physics then what I have shown will forever be a mystery to them until a day comes when they do understand how to do work problems in physics.


But at the end of the day it all boils down to this. Will folks move to support this technology when it comes out by me or will folks move to go against this technology if it comes out by me? These are the two questions that will have to be answered in the coming future as time moves on. For as I have said I have looked around a great deal and don't see anyone attempting to do what I am doing right now.


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
CEO and Owner
True Green Solutions
https://www.gofundme.com/f/energy-independence-for-you-and-me
« Last Edit: April 27, 2022, 12:26:33 AM by h20power »

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #775 on: April 27, 2022, 03:41:06 AM »

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #776 on: April 30, 2022, 11:26:49 PM »
After these recent rounds of attacks against me here is what I don't get about this forum.


Many have stated in the past that they wish to learn the science behind this water for fuel technology and when I moved to actually show the science behind this water for fuel technology in scientifically explainable terms no one seems care about it. None have moved to talk about it, none have moved to acknowledge the science I shared, and not many move to support my efforts to bring this technology into our world so we can actually start phasing out the use of fossil fuels. Why is that? Is it because this solution to this very old question comes from me? Please help me to understand all the push back I am getting when I did show just how voltage is breaking the bonds of the water molecules with this technology in provable scientific terms cause I am really not understanding all of this pushback?


The stated goal of this forum is to bring out technologies that will basically end the energy enslavement system we are all trapped in right now. With that being said this water for fuel technology is one of the most promising as it directly moves to replace everything we are currently using fossil fuels for right now, be it on the ground, floating in the waters, or flying in the air. If done correctly each and every vehicle converted will be transformed from a air polluter to a air cleaner as those vehicles/machines are operated. No more wars for fossil fuels! No more major oil spills, or coal ash spills, and no more Nuclear waste that has to be managed for hundreds of generations.


Why is it that no one can see the value of science I shared which comes complete with a brand new theory for the science books? You all wanted scientific proof and I have given you that but you all seem to have grown accustom to people putting on shows for your entertainment, like Russ Gries, or Max Miller, but I ask you where are they now at a time when the world needs this technology the most? I am still here putting in the good fight after all these years that I have been working on this technology. I got at the science behind the technology and shared it with you all free of charge and yet no one wishes to talk about it let alone give me their support.


Most on this forum don't seem to understand that hydrogen already powers the world so switching the source of where we get the hydrogen we need is a perfect solution toward ending the era of fossil fuels as king. Why is it that it seems as if I am the only one that sees this? Why doesn't anyone one else seem to see the potential of this technology as I do?


You wanted to know how voltage is performing the work of breaking the bonds of the water molecules and I showed you complete with graphs to help you see just what was going on visually. Voltage is performing the work of ionization on the atoms that make up the water molecules as the act of those atoms ejecting their electrons is what causes the water molecules to break down into it's component elements, IE, hydrogen and oxygen gas atoms. That is the scientific proof of how this technology works and it does not go against the laws of physics but adds to our understanding of how things work in the world in which we live. In my making use of the scientific method on this technology I discovered a brand new theory for the science books but again none on this forum seem the least bit excited by that, and I am wondering why? Is my being a Negro really that bad that none move to accept answers to old questions asked of this technology if it is to come from me?


I have done my part in sharing the actual science behind how this technology gets voltage to do the work of breaking the bonds of the water molecules. The next move is up to all of you but know time is running out for us to act.


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
CEO and Owner
True Green Solutions
https://www.gofundme.com/f/energy-independence-for-you-and-me

Offline stevie1001

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #777 on: May 01, 2022, 09:19:11 AM »
Free advise: have you ever considerd to start a church?
Then you can preach every sunday what ever you like and also get some tax advantages... ;D

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #778 on: May 01, 2022, 02:39:53 PM »
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Offline alan

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #779 on: May 06, 2022, 03:00:30 PM »
Hi Edward, 
people want to see bubbles before they consider donating. 
I am sure that the tech works, both output coils counter each other by mutual inductance when current wants to go, while voltage is allowed by transformer action of the two output coils added upon the voltage of the copper secondary coil. 
Regards