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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #735 on: February 17, 2022, 01:24:28 AM »
Thank you Sir for the nice answer !!
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #736 on: February 17, 2022, 04:45:15 PM »
Thank you Sir for the nice answer !!
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Your Welcome,


In one of my post on page 49 I give a summery of what's posted in this thread so folks can go right too the important parts and skip around all the drama. The waveform itself is the amp restriction that keeps amps from flowing through the water fuel capacitor, but without a differential probe one can't tune things correctly to get the waveform to be balanced having equal positive and negative voltages. You see the area under the curve represents current flow and when both positive and negative voltages are equal they cancel each other out so no current flows through the cell. That's why the water fuel capacitor can run for hours and the water never heats up. With mines I used a micro amp meters to take some readings and the amperage flowing through my wfc was only 0.6mA which isn't enough current to heat the water at all. The positive voltage was just five volts above the negative voltage when I took the amperage readings.
This part of the technology requires one to know how to use a oscilloscope and understand just what it is they are looking at on the scope mathematically. I think it's calculus level math but it can be solved just by simple subtraction of the area under the curve as shown in this video: [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q3Cw6dzSZ0&ab_channel=WeAreShowboat[/size]


This is how to solve this technology as to just what a balanced waveform is actually doing. Sure I went to college and took Calculus but it's not needed to solve this technology but what is needed is to understand just how to use a oscilloscope. These are work problems and it takes current to do the work of electrolysis and if the waveform cancels out all of the current no electrolysis is performed. This shows that with this technology voltage is actually doing the work to break the bonds of the water molecules.


Now in hindsight I think it is necessary to have taken Calculus and Upper level Physics as how would one know they were looking at a work problems otherwise? In the time I have been working on this technology I have run into a lot of people whom are very arrogant and stupid at the same time as that actual scope shot photo is from a person who swears he isn't pushing amps through the water fuel capacitor but the oscilloscope reading tells a different story. That's from Max Miller. The other one I have forgotten who posted it but again they were swearing up and down that they were not pushing amps through the water fuel capacitor but the oscilloscope reading tells a different story. This is the level of education I have had to deal with from others over the many years I have been working on this technology. As a lot, if not most, people that did get some of the needed equipment to read this technology never took the time to learn how to use it and/or didn't have enough education under their belt to know just what it was they were actually looking at.
If I were to take a reading of pure DC being used on the water fuel capacitor it would be a very boring reading just showing the voltage I am using and a straight line above the x-axis. All that energy under the curve in that reading would thus show unbroken current flowing through the water fuel capacitor. In most of the readings shown by others working on this technology they are showing broken positive current flowing through their water fuel capacitors as waveform that is being shown on their oscilloscope isn't lying, but they don't understand what they are looking at and were far to arrogant to admit their failings to others. Needless to say they didn't move forwards with this technology and eventually gave up, but not without putting up a fight towards me for attempting to telling how to actually read and interpret what their oscilloscopes were showing them. Since I understood what I was seeing when they posted their scope shots I knew how to ask the right question to show there were in fact pushing current through their cells as I'd ask them to take temperature readings over time as I knew the water would be heating up as that current shown on their very own scope shots was performing the world of normal electrolysis which heats up the water. Most of them refused to do so on camera and would even prevent others from pointing a laser temp reader at their cell while it was in operation.
Unlike them I allowed folks to take temperature readings of my cell while it was in operation as the cell would just follow the temps of the day as my waveform was balanced thus cancelling all of the current flow that would be flowing through the cell out. I remember Moray King making a note about how the cell's temperature was cold to the touch but he too didn't make the connection of just why the cell wasn't heating up while breaking the bonds of the water molecules at that time.


This is what set me apart from most people working on this technology as my education level was enough to allow me to understand what I was reading on the oscilloscope as I clearly saw a work problem which I had seen many times before in my physics and calculus classes.


Shalom Everyone,
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #737 on: February 18, 2022, 12:19:43 AM »
Hi Edward,

It's really nice to hear from you!!!

I Will try my best to study all materials, you have shared with us.

Many Thanks
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #738 on: February 19, 2022, 01:10:50 AM »
Hi,

Now, it's time to learn how to make a high voltage high frequency ac source VIC !!!

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #739 on: February 19, 2022, 11:26:30 PM »
Hi,

Now, it's time to learn how to make a high voltage high frequency ac source VIC !!!




There are a lot of rules one must follow when making high voltage transformers. Here I am vacuum resin sealing the transformer: [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0gH4IX5r7g[/size] Now the reason for this is to get all the air out as the air will ionize and that ionization will work towards destroying the wire's protective coating. It also keeps the wires from moving around which will also destroy the wire's protective coating as they rub against each other as the transformer is in operation which is typically heard as a ringing sound. Then you must also choose a coating for the wire(s) that can withstand the voltages you will be subjecting them too.
Most of this I had to learn the hard way as even when I went to the Global Breakthrough Energy conference held in Boulder, Colorado, I put the transformers in some oil that was specifically designed for transformers. The problem with that was as though it did prevent the air from ionizing it did nothing for keeping the wires from rubbing together which again would cause the transformers to fail as once the wire's protective coating rubbed off the current will follow the path of least resistance and the current doesn't much care for going through any resistance wire and will go around if allowed to do so. So, instead of going from point A to point B and then point C on it's way to point Z the current will just go directly to point Z and bypass all the other points if allowed to do so. This you can see when you turn the lights off as you will see the blue glow of arching taking place within the transformer bobbins and you can also hear it.


Now it seems someone has went out of their way to make getting the materials needed to make these transformers a bit costly. Depending on which resistance wire you choose to use the cost of getting that wire is going to be on the high side along with the cost to get practically everything for the Voltage Intensifier Circuit. You see that circuit includes not only the transformer but all the other components as well, like the WFC, Blocking diode, and more. I just found out that the cost of the resin has jumped up to $280.00 per liter if you buy small amounts. Now if you can afford to get large amounts the cost isn't so bad but I'm talking more than $5, 500 to get a whole lot of the resin and its corresponding hardener. Everything from the transformer cores to the wire used has gone up in price and I haven't even started talking about getting the WFC made if you aren't planning on making your own.


I am not trying to discourage anyone from attempting to get this technology up and running but just giving everyone a heads up on what's the actual cost of things so that one can better plan for this endeavor. I did a lot of testing and observed the results of each test as I learned how to do things correctly. The first and second differential probes I got were the wrong voltage rating so I had to get a third with a voltage rating of 15kv. I think with some other parts of the technology I might have to get an even higher voltage rated differential probe than I have. If such an thing is required I have learned to just do it as I will not be able to move forwards if I don't. I have seen a lot of people try and buck the system and saw all of them that did so fail at getting this technology up and running as these rules can't be ignored or gone around they have to be followed and done. Anyone thinking that the laws of physics are just going to personally bend just for you will find out the hard way latter on it just doesn't work that way.


Meyer was a capitalist thus he really didn't want anyone following his work. We all need to be made aware of this as then you will start asking the correct questions when trying to solve this technology and not come in with your head full of Meyer's words some of which have no actual meaning in the real world. You have to do your own research making use of the scientific method as it must be figured out the hard way. I did a lot of this research and shared a great deal of what I found out about this technology to include the actual science this technology is mimicking in nature that allow it to break the bonds of the water molecules outside of Dr. Faraday's electrolysis method. Trust me when I say nothing on earth would be alive if they had to follow Dr. Faraday's electrolysis method to break the bonds of the water molecules.


One thing I have learned is this technology must move into mass production as that's the only way to get the cost of this technology down so that folks around the world can afford to own and have it. This is something Meyer, Dr. Dingle, and a few other also knew. Whomever came up with the idea of blocking and/or never giving their support to anyone who tries to profit from this technology is a true enemy of this technology and wishing things to go on like they are right now forever as that statement is for the current fossil fuel run system to keep on going with no end in sight.
Anyone thinking that this is a easy technology to make and can then be just made by anyone with a set of plans in their hands are just lying to themselves as they leave out all whom are abjectly poor, disabled physically or mentally, the elderly, and the young, plus those that find themselves to be all thumbs when it comes to building anything. I didn't make up the rules of the markets as those things were put in place long before I was born and thus like everyone else I too must follow them.


I feel with all my heart this will be the year this technology finally makes it to the marketplace.
Shabbat Shalom Everyone,
Edward Mitchell
CEO and Owner
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https://www.gofundme.com/f/energy-independence-for-you-and-me

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #740 on: February 21, 2022, 03:20:44 PM »



There are a lot of rules one must follow when making high voltage transformers. Here I am vacuum resin sealing the transformer: [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0gH4IX5r7g[/size] Now the reason for this is to get all the air out as the air will ionize and that ionization will work towards destroying the wire's protective coating. It also keeps the wires from moving around which will also destroy the wire's protective coating as they rub against each other as the transformer is in operation which is typically heard as a ringing sound. Then you must also choose a coating for the wire(s) that can withstand the voltages you will be subjecting them too.
Most of this I had to learn the hard way as even when I went to the Global Breakthrough Energy conference held in Boulder, Colorado, I put the transformers in some oil that was specifically designed for transformers. The problem with that was as though it did prevent the air from ionizing it did nothing for keeping the wires from rubbing together which again would cause the transformers to fail as once the wire's protective coating rubbed off the current will follow the path of least resistance and the current doesn't much care for going through any resistance wire and will go around if allowed to do so. So, instead of going from point A to point B and then point C on it's way to point Z the current will just go directly to point Z and bypass all the other points if allowed to do so. This you can see when you turn the lights off as you will see the blue glow of arching taking place within the transformer bobbins and you can also hear it.


Now it seems someone has went out of their way to make getting the materials needed to make these transformers a bit costly. Depending on which resistance wire you choose to use the cost of getting that wire is going to be on the high side along with the cost to get practically everything for the Voltage Intensifier Circuit. You see that circuit includes not only the transformer but all the other components as well, like the WFC, Blocking diode, and more. I just found out that the cost of the resin has jumped up to $280.00 per liter if you buy small amounts. Now if you can afford to get large amounts the cost isn't so bad but I'm talking more than $5, 500 to get a whole lot of the resin and its corresponding hardener. Everything from the transformer cores to the wire used has gone up in price and I haven't even started talking about getting the WFC made if you aren't planning on making your own.


I am not trying to discourage anyone from attempting to get this technology up and running but just giving everyone a heads up on what's the actual cost of things so that one can better plan for this endeavor. I did a lot of testing and observed the results of each test as I learned how to do things correctly. The first and second differential probes I got were the wrong voltage rating so I had to get a third with a voltage rating of 15kv. I think with some other parts of the technology I might have to get an even higher voltage rated differential probe than I have. If such an thing is required I have learned to just do it as I will not be able to move forwards if I don't. I have seen a lot of people try and buck the system and saw all of them that did so fail at getting this technology up and running as these rules can't be ignored or gone around they have to be followed and done. Anyone thinking that the laws of physics are just going to personally bend just for you will find out the hard way latter on it just doesn't work that way.


Meyer was a capitalist thus he really didn't want anyone following his work. We all need to be made aware of this as then you will start asking the correct questions when trying to solve this technology and not come in with your head full of Meyer's words some of which have no actual meaning in the real world. You have to do your own research making use of the scientific method as it must be figured out the hard way. I did a lot of this research and shared a great deal of what I found out about this technology to include the actual science this technology is mimicking in nature that allow it to break the bonds of the water molecules outside of Dr. Faraday's electrolysis method. Trust me when I say nothing on earth would be alive if they had to follow Dr. Faraday's electrolysis method to break the bonds of the water molecules.


One thing I have learned is this technology must move into mass production as that's the only way to get the cost of this technology down so that folks around the world can afford to own and have it. This is something Meyer, Dr. Dingle, and a few other also knew. Whomever came up with the idea of blocking and/or never giving their support to anyone who tries to profit from this technology is a true enemy of this technology and wishing things to go on like they are right now forever as that statement is for the current fossil fuel run system to keep on going with no end in sight.
Anyone thinking that this is a easy technology to make and can then be just made by anyone with a set of plans in their hands are just lying to themselves as they leave out all whom are abjectly poor, disabled physically or mentally, the elderly, and the young, plus those that find themselves to be all thumbs when it comes to building anything. I didn't make up the rules of the markets as those things were put in place long before I was born and thus like everyone else I too must follow them.


I feel with all my heart this will be the year this technology finally makes it to the marketplace.
Shabbat Shalom Everyone,
Edward Mitchell
CEO and Owner
True Green Solutions
https://www.gofundme.com/f/energy-independence-for-you-and-me
i pray for your success  be careful

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #741 on: February 21, 2022, 05:53:01 PM »
Hi Edward and All,

Yes I need to learn the basic of this technology
High voltage source VIC
Water fuel cell
Gaz processor ...

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #742 on: February 22, 2022, 06:17:38 PM »
Hello Everyone,


I had someone ask what it takes for someone to build this technology and did I post enough information for someone to be able to do so? In order for someone to do the same thing I did with this technology they must have some college education and have taken subjects in, Mechanics, Chemistry, Calculus, Physics, Computer Aided drafting, and Strength in materials. I also picked up Architecture, Machine Shop technician, and a whole lot of hand drafting classes, plus the completion of the general college education. This is what it takes to be able to work on this technology and figure out it's secrets. I also took a basic electronics course.
What all this education allowed me to do was to learn how to ask and answer questions using the scientific method and to be able to create something from a dream or thought and bring that something into reality. I design everything I use with the exception of the pulsing circuit. I have redesigned many of Meyer's things to make them more cost effective and to suit the technologies ever changing needs as I learn more about it. I designed the bobbins, the water fuel capacitor, the gas processor, and more and will say one does need a basic education in machine shop to be able to do these things at least it's what I needed to bring dreams into reality.


I never liked the idea of just copying something without knowing how it worked as how would you be able to spot a mistake, error, or misdirection? But I've seen this type of behavior in many that use to work on this technology in the past. Coupled with their arrogance it made for some very interesting conversation as they went about as if they knew it all but in reality didn't have a clue on much of how this technology actually worked. They would just look at the pictures in Meyer technical brief and never really do much if any reading and proclaim they know how the technology works. Just like that one guy whom came into my thread just recently acting as if he knew how it all worked quoting what he had read but having no hands on experience to know that not all of what Meyer said was true and Meyer didn't tell all he knew about the technology as when he spoke he did so in a manor as if the listener knew everything he knew. Folks don't seem to understand that due to capitalism Meyer was very good at hiding things in plain sight for if he had been allowed to just put this technology on the market he would very much be like Elon Musk today. Which reminds me a video just surfaced of someone that worked directly with Meyer for many years and Meyer was able to keep the technology a secret from him as the guy doesn't understand how the technology works: [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axnb-P4wsDM&t=3900s[/size]. This goes to prove my point that Meyer had no intention of giving this technology away.


As far as Open Source goes that system only works when things have no real cost to them like computer programs, drawings, and things like that for as soon as one needs to buy something then the rules of the Markets kick in and there is no getting around them. This is why I don't believe in Open Source as it leaves out most people on this planet due to the high cost involved in making this technology let alone all of what I just mention above. I can't hand out to everyone a set of plans and tell them to wing themselves off of fossil fuels as it takes money, a college education, and mechanical know how to be able to build and implement this technology into our everyday lives. Those whom firmly believe in Open Source leave out the elderly, the young, the disabled, the poor, all those that don't have any college education, plus those that don't know too much about how engines work as they would need to know how to design things for engines to be able to implement this technology successfully. Can you see how Open Source totally fails at this? I'll give one example of this with someone you all should know Bob Boyce. Bob Boyce put his 25-35 LPM hho producing device on a Toyota Priest. But he didn't know much about how modern day cars actually worked as with modern days cars they are computer driven to help aid with efficiency. Thus adding in a burnable gas will work at first but the computer will resent the fuel ratio use back to 14.7:1 as it was programed to do. So, after about a month the car was getting worse gas millage than it was before he added his hho device to the car. Why? He didn't tell the car's computer what he was doing as the car's computer needed to be reprogramed to accept the new fuel he was putting into the engine. Now if Bob Boyce didn't understand that the car's computer needed to be reprogramed what are the chances of most other people without his education level to know that has to be done on today's modern vehicles be it cars, boats, or planes? You see it's one thing to be able to get this technology up and running and it's a totally different thing to be able implement this technology safely to replace our fossil fuel use.


This is where people like me come in as we have the ability to implement this technology to replace where we use fossil fuels for right now and we understand we must do it safely so that people don't get hurt. This is why this technology needs people like me as we stand out among the rest with a skill set that allows us not to only be able to get the technology up and running correctly but to put it to good use in our everyday lives as we do away with fossil fuel use. This is why I ask for support in making this dream come to a reality as it's going to take the support of the people to be able to get passed all the blocking put in place by the fossil fuel industries, plus all those that sell energy for a living.


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
CEO and Owner
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #743 on: February 23, 2022, 03:13:13 PM »
Hello,
I have no doubt that Stan Meyer water technology works!!
I pray for your success
God Bless You

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« Reply #744 on: February 23, 2022, 03:22:02 PM »
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #745 on: February 24, 2022, 02:55:15 PM »
Hi,

Anyone ever replicate?
Nikola Tesla electric car...
EV Gray electric motor car...



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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #746 on: February 24, 2022, 03:29:08 PM »
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Nikola Tesla electric car...
Tesla electric car is not about that. :D
There was no hydrogen and no water.
There is aether energy...

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« Reply #747 on: February 24, 2022, 06:09:08 PM »
Tesla electric car is not about that. :D
There was no hydrogen and no water.
There is aether energy...
Hello,
We are on the same boat, I mean the same car !!!
Who cares if we are taping
The energy from the aether or
The energy from the background magnetic field?

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #748 on: February 25, 2022, 05:08:16 AM »
Hello Everyone,


Well, this post is to let everyone know I am human after all as I too make mistakes from time to time that are on the costly side. In my excitement of being able to make these transformer bobbins on my own now I skipped a few steps on making prototypes. When I went to design the bobbins I use the wire measurements given at the sites where I brought the wire. The bobbin was designed for 0.0060" chokes but the actual hands on measurement taken was 0.0075". With the site's wire size I was getting 16 turns per layer and with actual size of the wire I received I was only getting 12 turns per layer. Needless to say I couldn't get the turns the transformer was designed for in the bobbin space. Even the secondary wire measured a different size than what was stated on the site where I got it from but not by much as I only lost one turn per layer with the actual size of the wire measured by hand.


Just to let you all know how costly a mistake this was I now have to start all over with a totally new core and make new bobbins for that new core none of which I have as of yet. Plus it also means every bobbin I have ever made with my new resin printer has to be tossed out as they were designed with the wrong wire sizes. This is where one has to put down their pride and accept the mistakes they made pick themselves back up and keep it moving. Pride is the enemy of innovation and can and will stall one out if they don't put that bag of pride bricks down. I know of someone that put his pride first and forced himself to believe a lie as his water bath was heating up and I called him on it but due to pride he told me it wasn't and he's been stuck ever since for more than ten years now because of his pride.


Lesson to learn from this. Don't let excitement get the best of you to the point you start skipping steps you already know about. Take hands on measurements of the materials you buy for this technology as if not it can cost you bigly.


Note to everyone, do NOT post about other technologies on this thread as this thread is about Meyer tech and Meyer tech only. Plus, as if you all haven't already noticed, I am attempting to get aid for my efforts to bring this technology to the marketplace with this thread now. It would do the world a lot of good if all of you could just pass the word around that someone has actually gotten at the science behind Meyer's technology now to increase the chances of this technology actually making it to the marketplace. If my crowdfund is fully funded the transition away from fossil fuel use for power generation and transportation will begin.


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
CEO and Owner
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« Last Edit: February 25, 2022, 07:21:43 AM by h20power »

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« Reply #749 on: February 25, 2022, 05:17:44 AM »
Thanks for the update. Will do / stay on topic.
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