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Author Topic: Stanley Meyer Explained  (Read 312387 times)

Online Floor

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #720 on: January 14, 2022, 12:52:40 AM »
Without the intent of adding to your no doubt already numerous tasks, I for one would
love to see a complete walk through / explanation, without the questions and answers
and / or  the advise of the pool guy and other experts.

P.S.
   Maybe save the Q and A till the end ?



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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #721 on: January 14, 2022, 01:30:49 AM »
Without the intent of adding to your no doubt already numerous tasks, I for one would
love to see a complete walk through / explanation, without the questions and answers
and / or  the advise of the pool guy and other experts.


Perhaps one day I will move to do that but for now people are going to have to work with what I have chosen to give them, which is a lot of you take it all in, yes?
But I do know what you are talking about as you want everything laid out in a easy to follow manual were all you have to do is take some of the documents to your local machine shop, circuit board builder, and transformer makers and say, "make these for me," correct? You want a complete bill of materials to include where to get those materials from at the cheapest possible prices to also go along with that too, correct?
I don't know if I will ever be willing to do all of that as that's would be monumental task added on to all the work I am already doing in trying to set up my supply lines for this technology.


Here is a current problem that I am having to deal with right now. Now I asked this question to Paul Andrulis but he completely ignored it so I will ask the same question to all of you.
"I just got an email from the company I buy the high voltage transformer resin from telling me that they moved locations and now have a new MOQ of 30 gallons (minimum order quantity) with the corresponding hardener which makes the minimum buy for me 60 gallons since the mix ratio is 1:1 for this resin and hardener. How would you deal with this problem?"


Now since none of you have moved to actually build anything you are totally unaware of problems like these. You see you will run into minimum make amounts, minimum order quantities, and the list goes on. I think the most expensive thing I have looked into having made was Meyer's Quenching Circuit Tubing as that stuff cost $100/ft with a minimum make of 100ft which puts the price tag over $10k as you have to add in taxes, and shipping and handling.


On this high voltage transformer resin you must get it or the transformer will short out very quickly as the air around the wires will be ionized and then short out with the core. Plus the wires will be allowed to vibrate which will rub off the wire's protective coating which will also cause the transformer to short out. So, you have no choice but to get this high voltage transformer resin.


Again problems like these only get found out once to move to actually start building something or having something built for you as before then these problems are hidden from you.
I look forwards to reading all of your replies.


https://www.gofundme.com/f/energy-independence-for-you-and-me


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell



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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #722 on: January 14, 2022, 02:01:27 AM »
Perhaps one day I will move to do that but for now people are going to have to work with what I have chosen to give them,


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Yea and perhaps not and half of a wheel, is useless.

which is a lot of you take it all in, yes?


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I don't know what you are saying above.

But I do know what you are talking about as you want everything laid out in a easy to follow manual were all you have to do is take some of the documents to your local machine shop, circuit board builder, and transformer makers and say, "make these for me," correct? You want a complete bill of materials to include where to get those materials from at the cheapest possible prices to also go along with that too, correct?


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No,
but pretty insulting, but you can think that b.s., if you like. 

What I am thinking is that you are just a bit tired and disappointed
in humanity.  What else ?  I'll tell you what else.  I can relate that's what's else.

I can tell you this much, my own, sometimes disappointment, is simply what the world
looks like when I view it from a perspective of arrogance.

But you still have to decide to give it away or not.

Does humanity deserve it ?  Is that even a question worth answering ?

Something has given us the sun and the rain and the moon and the
stars above.  I don't think this was because we 'deserved it'.

   peace
        out

            floor

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #723 on: January 14, 2022, 03:59:42 AM »
No peace out Floor!


When I went over the whole thread I noted all the pages that might be of interest to someone wanting to actually build this technology. On pages 21 and 23 I first posted the science behind the technology. On page 26 I went over the importance of the area under the curve. On page 33 I gave away the Multispooled transformer turn count data complete with wires sizes used. On page 35 I gave the actual sizes of the WFC's electrodes and went over a lot of the science behind the technology. On page 36 I showed how to wire up a circular WFC correctly. On page 37 I went over the need to isolate so folks would understand why they needed to get a differential probe. On page 40 I showed how to actually wire up a Multispooled VIC transformer to the WFC and pulsing circuit.


But always people want more from me. As they want all of my designs on everything I have designed for this technology as designing things for themselves just takes too much time I guess.


I also noticed that you too just ignored the real life question I ask Paul. If you do move to make this technology you too will have to figure out where you will be getting the high voltage transformer resin, getting or building a vacuum chamber, and learning how to get all the air out of the transformer and the resin into it.


The way I see it, all of you for more than
twelve years have been just like these leaders talking about climate change as you all have moved to do absolutely nothing! But you all are so egger to put someone that is doing something down. All to willing to toss stumbling blocks in front of me but never a single dime in aid or a hand out to help. Just take, take, take is all you folks seem to know, but I guess that's because you were all raised in a capitalist system and think it's the best thing since sliced bread.


Inaction doesn't lead to PEACE and it sure as hell doesn't lead to a SOLUTION,
Edward Mitchell
« Last Edit: January 14, 2022, 06:35:42 AM by h20power »

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #724 on: January 14, 2022, 06:29:57 AM »

I also noticed that you too just ignored the real life question I ask Paul. If you do move to make this technology you too will have to figure out where you will be getting the high voltage transformer resin, getting or building a vacuum chamber, and learning how to get all the air out of the transformer and the resin into it.


There       are       some         real builders and experimenters here, although most just
talk a good game but that's ok to.  The game really does "take all kinds".


But always people want more from me. As they want all of my designs on everything I
have designed for this technology as designing things for themselves just takes too much
time I guess.

I hear that.  It's a bitch aint it. 
Look bro. do what you do and its ok,  because lots of folks will suck out every thing
out of every thing that they can. 

I fully agree that if people are going to come to the table, they have got to at least eat for
their selves. 

I think where I personally, have  to draw the line is where / if my own needs stop being
met.
... ... ... ... ...

I also noticed that you too just ignored the real life question I ask Paul.

"I just got an email from the company I buy the high voltage transformer resin from telling me that they moved locations and now have a new MOQ of 30 gallons (minimum order quantity) with the corresponding hardener which makes the minimum buy for me 60 gallons since the mix ratio is 1:1 for this resin and hardener. How would you deal with this problem?" 

First off, I AM NOT PAUL, and I'm not you.   an edit was HERE

I would call them and talk person to person with a secretary or who ever answers the phone.
I would tell them that I am a small operation, researching hydrogen production and hope to eventually arrive at a production level of need for the resin. I would flat out ask    that  person
for help in finding a way, a way to order a smaller quantity.  They may sympathize and maybe
also realize it could pay off  for their company if your process ever does come to a production
level. 

   P.S.
     One other thing.  Don't allow yourself to be destracted in those fruitless arguments.
     You know where you are going.  Keep your focus.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #725 on: January 14, 2022, 06:24:33 PM »
Floor the problem I have with Paul is it seems like he came into my thread to tell folks not to support this technology as if you read on the very first page of his new thread he states that my thread is misleading. That's why I took the time to go over my thread taking notes and posting many of the pages where I gave the technology away so people can go directly to them. So in no way did I mislead anyone as I did give this technology away teaching folks the actual science behind it, how to wire things up, and pointed everyone to a circuit to give a try as it looks promising and that circuit doesn't come from me but Brad K.


For a twelve years I attempted to get folks to get started on this technology so that we could have many trying to push this technology into the marketplace but in all that time no one joined with me and I was left to go it alone. Sure there are others but our numbers are very few and most haven't gotten to where I am in actually building all that they need to put the technology onto the marketplace. I try and help them all I can with the wisdom I have about this technology and give them places where they can go and save money on getting the things they need to get their projects off the ground. But I am always running into people like Paul that seem to worship Meyer and think he could do no wrong and also think Meyer had a finished product when he didn't. They don't understand that Meyer life ended before he could learn fully about this technology as after all he was going to build a research facility was he not? I simply finished what Meyer started in that I went on to actually get at the science behind this technology and I made darn sure to share that information with everyone who takes the time to read this thread, plus in other places on the net as well.


It turns out the technology isn't all that complicated it just operates in a place we didn't know all that much about. Not many know that a thunderstorm breaks the bonds of molecules by way of ionization where it targets the atoms that make up the molecules to break them down into their component elements. But when I saw the Global Electric Circuit and compared that to the Voltage Intensifier Circuit I knew I had finally found just what this technology was mimicking in nature. The push back too that discovery was unexpected but not entirely as people love to hate the messenger. What this technology has that all other technologies have is rules that must be followed in order to get it to work correctly. Now that we know that we are mimicking a thunderstorm we can now direct our questions not to Stanley Meyer, Dr. Dingle, Andrija Puharich, or any of the others, but directly to the thunderstorm itself.
The Rules:
1. Putting a high voltage potential difference on the water molecules can only be done in a Isolated environment with no grounding sources. When looking at the global electric circuit notice that the cloud is isolated by air on the top and bottom of the cloud from all grounding sources.
2. Making sure the current flows in only one direction in the isolated circuit by the use of a diode in the circuit designed to mimic a thunderstorm. That is the purpose of the blocking diode, as note the flow of current in the global electric circuit.
3. Have enough internal resistance in the isolated circuit to mimic a thunderstorm. Note the resistance in the diagram of the global electric circuit showing 104-5 and 105-6 ohms of resistance below and above the cloud. This is why the circuit is run at resonance as Xc will be at it's highest resistance at resonance. Adding things up you have a circuit resistance, chokes plus the secondary coils, plus the Xc resistance of all the inductive coils at resonance.
4. Making sure you get the proper tools for working in an electrically isolated environment. The is why I stressed for everyone to get a differential probe as we are working in an isolate environment and if you add a ground you can't build up a high voltage potential on the plates of the water fuel capacitor. Now this video may not seem related but trust me it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOLd2KVK-Mo


Now there is more but you can now see the difference in trying to mimic what Meyer did to trying to mimic a thunderstorm which is what this technology is doing, yes? Now you can go over Meyer's work and look at what he did to mimic a thunderstorm and that is all due to me working tirelessly to get at the science behind the technology and sharing it with you. So, direct all of your questions to the Global Electric Circuit itself and then use all those that managed to mimic it a look to see how they did it. This allows you to do away with and/or get around any made up terms that only have meaning to the individual's information you are looking at.
You will also find that you must know how to read an oscilloscope so look up and learn from teaching videos on YouTube and learn all you can as if you don't understand what the "Energy under the curve" is you will totally miss a lot of what I showed in how this technology actually goes about restricting the flow of amps between the plates of the capacitors in the pdf I posted. The reason why I say it like this is because there is a charge and discharge cycle for this tech. When the transformer is charging the capacitor a balanced waveform prevents it from shorting between the plates of the capacitor. When the capacitor is discharging the transformer's resistance slows the rate at which the capacitor discharges down with it's total resistance at resonance. This prevents the capacitor from being discharged too quickly as remember that in the voltage intensifier circuit the transformer is in a direct short with the capacitor with the blocking diode acting as a automatic switch for the charging and discharging of the capacitor.


Hopefully now you can all see the need to fund this technology as I am way out in front of all the rest working on this technology and unlike some have said I did not mislead anyone with this thread: [size=78%]https://www.gofundme.com/f/energy-independence-for-you-and-me[/size]


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
« Last Edit: January 14, 2022, 09:12:00 PM by h20power »

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #726 on: January 14, 2022, 06:36:39 PM »
I think your reputation here stands on it's own.
Hold to your own ideal of integrity and don't worry it.
It is said that a Shaolin priest can walk through walls.
You have the power not to contend.

nice infos, thanks

and peace be
with you as well

   floor

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #727 on: January 14, 2022, 09:54:28 PM »
Thanks Floor for that and for answering the question I posed to the forum. I think that is more or less what I did with the resin manufacturer but I am still in talks with them to try and get far be less than their MOQ as where am I going to put 60 gallons that have a shelf life of I believe one year? The resin does it's job perfectly as ever since I started using it I haven't shorted out any more transformers.


Back in the day people tried to ruin my reputation by spreading rumors that I was a cheat and was trying to rip off people on the RWG forum. When that didn't work they then resorted to bending the rules of the forum so that businesses could not sell their wares if the person of that business was part of the forum. So it was okay to post where to buy stuff from a company outside of the forum but not okay if that company had someone it the forum as a member. But later on I saw it for what it really was as it was just a way to block me from trying to move forwards with this technology as other businesses did have members on that forum and they were free to post their company's websites products for members of the forum to buy. It was only targeted at Max Miller and I. The funny thing that happened was when they did try and build and sell one of their own Water Fuel Capacitors there were charging far more than I was charging and giving far less to the consumer as mines came fully assembled, wired up, and ready to go right out of the box with a leveling sensor already installed and theirs had to be assembled and came with nothing to wire things up. I think the cost difference was more than $600 bucks if I remember correctly.
Later on a lot of people told me they wish they had purchased a WFC from me but the propaganda put out by the forum leaders had them on the wrong side of this technology. People were paying more than I was charging for a six cell WFC and mines had ten cells in it. Again it was plug and play and I used wire rated at 15kv for the connection wires from cell to cell and 30kv for the connection between the cell and the transformer. At that time the primary purpose for selling everyone on the forums a cell was to bring some standardization to our research so we could all work more effectively together.


It's good to hear that my reputation on this forum is in good standing🥳.


Again thanks for the kind words,
Shalom,
Edward Mitchell


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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #728 on: January 18, 2022, 07:23:17 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brEm4mEizns This video makes it clear the USA is totally willing to allow climate change to get to the point of no return. They have made it a mater of national security to block technologies that are involved with the energy sector and that means this one too. Years ago the IMF and World Banks put a stop to this technology in the Philippines that attempted to come out in 1968 as the IMF and World Banks had some sort of agreement with the country of the Philippines that their country would not produce anything that competed with their product, which at the time was fossil fuels. So for over 50 years now this technology has been blocked.
Since most of you aren't even 50 years old just think you might have only known about fossil fuel use for power generation and transportation from a history book if this technology had been allowed to come out and do it's thing. One thing is for sure you would not have to face our current climate change problems as engines converted to use this technology actually clean the air when it's done correctly.


I was talking to a friend today about why the general public can't make this technology for themselves and it has to do with the materials that are required to get this technology up and running correctly. You see some of the companies that sells the things needed for this technology do not sell their wares to the general public but only to other companies. This was the main reason why I started my company as back in 2008 I was working on the Gas Processor and found out I needed some very specific wavelength LEDs and the company that sold the LEDs with those wavelengths didn't sell their wares to the general public. So I started my company to only find out they didn't do business with companies less than a year old so I had to wait. So, anyone that thinks the general public can build this technology hasn't actually tried to build this technology for themselves or they would know these things. Even the company I found that has a very good transformer resin for this technology doesn't sell their wares to the general public. To me it seems like those that don't want this technology to see the light of day have found ways to prevent the general public from being able to make this technology on their own.


I wonder how long they have been doing this? As it is an effective way to block this technology. Be honest, "How many of you reading this knew about companies selling their wares only to other companies and not to the general public?"


This puts a serious damper on getting this technology into the hands of those that need it the most as we can now see the only way is for a company to attempt to put it out for our world. This is all the proof you should need to get off the fence and start supporting my efforts to put this technology into the marketplace. You don't have to give much as that's not out crowdfunding works as it's the crowd itself that gets things done by allowing us poor folks to work together as one: [size=78%]https://www.gofundme.com/f/energy-independence-for-you-and-me[/size]


Well, I just thought I'd share this information to all of you to let you now we need to come together on this if we are to have a fighting chance towards actually having this technology in our lives.


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #729 on: January 22, 2022, 01:26:40 AM »

Hello Everyone,

Just finished printing up the smaller core bobbins and got it right the first time only needing to sand it a tad to get the support marks off. I'm using the same core Don Gable used here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQeZ9EgpgXw&ab_channel=Dynodon64, but I put my creative mind to work and designed a multispooled bobbin for the core. This AnyCubic printer does a great job printing these bobbins as I am sure this can't be done on a CNC mill. Now I'm putting all those years spent in college to work as I come up with design after design making it happen for this technology.


I should have the prototype and this standard type all wound up next week sometime, but I am still waiting on the transformer resin so no high voltage runs on the WFC until everything is done perfectly. Sometimes I wish someone else was also working on this technology but I can understand why not as this technology has a great cost when doing things correctly and not all the stuff one needs can be purchased unless they too have a business like I do. Anyway someone has to step up to the plate and go to bat and for now I am that someone.


Remember this technology needs your support: https://www.gofundme.com/f/energy-independence-for-you-and-me


Take are care all and shalom,
Edward Mitchell
« Last Edit: January 22, 2022, 04:04:13 AM by h20power »

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #730 on: January 22, 2022, 08:50:23 PM »
Good Morning Everyone,


Here is a size comparison of the two transformers I printed out using the AnyCubic Photon Mono X resin printer.


As you can see one is quite a bit larger than the other. The larger one should be able to put a charge on water with a salter content than the smaller one how much more is unknown at the moment. The estimated wire resistance for the small VIC is 90kΩ and for the large VIC 155kΩ. This is not counting the added resistance Xc at resonance as I don't know the resonant frequency as of yet to be able to make those calculations. But needless to say I've learned how to make these transformers any way I see fit now through all of my many hands on experiments with this technology as I paid close attention to just what was going on as I already knew good observations is good science.


With a little luck and the support of the many followers this technology has this will be the year this technology starts to make a difference in our would. What started in the Philippines will now move to replace fossil fuel use for power generation and transportation but it can't do so without the support of the people for as Meyer said, "We all need to come together in one accord to make this happen." It's time to be on the right side of history as we all know this technology has the power to turn the tide on our climate change problems. So give your support or just pass the word around as this is our moment in history to make a difference: https://www.gofundme.com/f/energy-independence-for-you-and-me


Shabbat Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
CEO and Owner
True Green Solution (TGS)