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Offline alan

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #645 on: July 07, 2021, 12:10:34 PM »
The answer lies in the coils, study these, you must be able to make it with little money. Alixp sells most what you need, like many types of cores.
Lookup hyiq on youtube to understand the winding of the coils. I think the current in the two bucking coils [on the same core, one CW, other CCW wound] must create a changing magnetic flux in the direction so that it opposes/impedes the current in the other bucking coil. Voltage by means of transformer action will appear on each winding on the secondary + chokes, emf adds up but current won't flow.
Or try to make the steam resonator first.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #646 on: July 07, 2021, 05:06:40 PM »
The answer lies in the coils, study these, you must be able to make it with little money. Alixp sells most what you need, like many types of cores.
Lookup hyiq on youtube to understand the winding of the coils. I think the current in the two bucking coils [on the same core, one CW, other CCW wound] must create a changing magnetic flux in the direction so that it opposes/impedes the current in the other bucking coil. Voltage by means of transformer action will appear on each winding on the secondary + chokes, emf adds up but current won't flow.
Or try to make the steam resonator first.




Hi Alan,


With this technology it must be done correctly following a very specific set of rules. It can be done with just one water capacitor but it's really difficult as the transformer will lack the needed power to charge the load. This is why the transformer for the injectors is so large as that transformer needs to power that very small capacitor each injector makes. In contrast the WFC will have around the same capacitance as each of the cells is wired up in series which as we know when you wire capacitors up in series it lowers the over all capacitance. Capacitance in this case is the load, XC, thus the higher the capacitance the greater the load that will be placed on the transformer.


It's very tricky to balance the load as the load, WFC, will change it's capacitance for as it starts to produce gas those gases displace the dielectric in the capacitor which in turn lowers it's capacitance. These are all variable capacitors we are working with. They start off with a high load and once going that load being presented to the transformer goes down which is why the circuit must have a fast acting PLL section to keep up with the changing loads as the system starts to break down the water molecules. Everything must be done correctly or it simply will not work. People like to make changes to a system they have no idea of how it works and then scratch their heads when it doesn't work for them. Understanding how the system works is the first thing that is to be done as then and only then can one make changes to the technology. I find that people like trying to do things totally backwards and take massive short cuts to a system they don't fully understand trying to save money for the most part or put their spin on the technology seeking some sort of glory to be able to say they did it their way.


With this technology things must be done correctly or it simply will not work as it's the opposite of Dr. Faraday's electrolysis method. You see electrolysis is simple, just stick a DC power source to a bath of water, add a salt, acid, or base and away you go. Now there are rules as to how much salt, acid, or base one can add to the water for maximum efficiency but for the most part it's very simple. In sharp contrast using voltage to break the bonds of the water molecules is very complicated as we are talking about mimicking a thunderstorm electronically. The hard part is matching up the inductor to the capacitor as the capacitance of the capacitor must be figured out experimentally for the most part as none of us poor folk have the equipment needed to measure the capacitance of a water capacitor. Then we must take great care in making sure the secondary side remains an isolated circuit at all times. If a ground is given it will take it and thus never charge up the plates of the capacitor. This is something even Stanley Meyer was having trouble understanding as that is the primary reason why his injectors, as designed, didn't work as they grounded out to the car's battery. He would have had to isolate the injectors from the car's electrical system in order for them to work but he passes away before he could figure that out.


In this thread I have shown the way the waveform is to look, given a circuit design to use, and gone over practically all the science of how this is even possible looking at mother nature for answers and note I found them and shared that information with everyone. High voltage is to be respected so you can't use any coating on the wires as the coating must be able to withstand the voltages this technology works at. The transformer must be made to match the load almost perfectly and the load is varying as the system starts to break down the water molecules as the capacitance of the capacitor starts off high and ends up low as the gases produce displace the dielectric medium, water, out of the resonant cavity(s) which lowers the capacitance of the resonant cavity(s). Again the hard parts are finding the capacitance of the resonant cavity(s), then matching a inductor to power it up almost perfectly, and then making sure the circuit can lock on too and maintain resonance all times. These things aren't all that easy to do even though the circuit looks fairly simple. Put it this way, if it were simple to do then there would be many people out there replicating this technology, but it's not simple as with all technologies there are rules to follow in order to get it work correctly, and for the most part people don't understand the rules they are to follow to be able to get this technology working correctly.


This technology is very unforgiving when mistakes are made. For if one doesn't have a differential probe they can't view the waveform for if a standard probe with a grounding source is used the ground it adds to the system will be taken by the technology and a false reading will be given. If the circuit doesn't lock on to and maintain resonance as soon as the WFC starts to produce gas the system shuts down as it falls out of resonance when said gases are produced. There truly is nothing simple about this technology.


I hope that helps explain things to you Kolbacict as all technologies have rules to follow and I laid out many rules of this technology that must be followed to the letter.
Take care,
Edward

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #647 on: July 10, 2021, 09:32:22 PM »
Hello Everyone,


Well, to get the talks back on track I think this video helps as it shows the use of hydrogen being taken seriously but they just don't know about this technology: [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctE6cZn2-H4&ab_channel=TechPlanet[/size] Note they are talking about hydrogen verses batteries for as it turns out the world just doesn't have enough raw materials for the entire world to switch from fossil fuel use to batteries as cobalt is the limiting factor as it's created a bottleneck for the electric cars which very few in the world's population as a whole can afford to buy right now. The question that's for this technology is, "How do we get the publics' support for this technology on a global scale?"


As of right now I am ready to take this technology further but I just lack the funds needed to do so. Here on this thread I've gone over the science behind this technology showing everyone that this technology is mimicking a thunderstorm in how it goes about breaking the bonds of the water molecules, but the technology doesn't stop there. Many things we do can be done better with this technology and some things this technology can do will be totally new to this world. As of right now I seem to be the only one that truly understands just how this technology works ever after posting just how the actual science behind this technology is derived. But I also display something else lacking in others and that something is the drive to see this technology through to it's completion making it to the marketplace so that folks around the world can buy it. Hopefully the cost will be well below that of EV's and the current Hydrogen fueled vehicles on the market right now for public consumption.


I think I'm at the point where I will cease trying to teach anyone this technology for it just seems like I'm hitting my head repeatedly on a brick wall when trying to do so and instead just focus my efforts to gain public support for this technology. Once I am able to make the bobbins in a more cost effective manor I will be able to showcase the technology to the public in a more convincing manor on just what this technology can do to improve their lives as well as what it can do to turn the tide on our climate change problems. Right now when I make the bobbin set they cost me around $3k USD per transformer. With today's SLA printing technology that cost can be drastically reduced but I have to be able to afford a SLA printer first that is capable of printing these bobbins. I've made some choices on which SLA printer to purchase and am currently saving up my pennies to be able to buy one, hopefully sooner than latter. On my GoFundMe page: [size=78%]https://www.gofundme.com/f/energy-independence-for-you-and-me[/size] I posted what the monies donated will be used for so as to be open to folks that look at the crowdfund wondering where the donated monies will be going. For as you can see I have a plan in place that will work in bringing this technology to the marketplace.


Why does the transformer cost so much? It's because it needs to be made perfectly for high voltage use and the current cost to have just the bobbins of the transformer made by a machine shop is on the high side. The cost effective way to go about this is by making as much as possible inhouse. As the company grows and starts to mass produce this technology the prices will start to drop as those are the rules of the market. Prices are cheaper for those that can afford to buy in bulk which is exactly how the market is setup to work and none of us can get around those rules at this moment in time. With all the DYI technologies coming forth it's only a matter of time before someone gets this technology put on the marketplace and I fully intend on being that someone as after all this time I have shown I have the drive necessary to see this through till the end.


For all that willing choose to aid me in my time of need, THANKS.

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« Reply #647 on: July 10, 2021, 09:32:22 PM »
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #648 on: July 18, 2021, 09:38:27 AM »
https://youtu.be/DkkUBW7aJ2I
VIC transformer from Russia.
None of my comments, just a link.
Just one question, the high voltage winding is wound with high resistance wire.
really stainless steel ??
« Last Edit: July 18, 2021, 12:55:22 PM by kolbacict »

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #649 on: July 18, 2021, 12:22:25 PM »
nice channel. 
stainless steel with coating to add real resistance for power dissipation, it's not necessary (in the experimental stage).

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #650 on: July 18, 2021, 12:53:19 PM »
stainless steel with coating to add real resistance for power dissipation,
I agree with that.  :)
 
p.s.
why don't the green leaves of trees and plants heat up in direct sunlight?
At least they are colder than a sheet of white paper or a white wall nearby.
After all, this cannot happen only due to the evaporation of water.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #651 on: July 18, 2021, 10:02:24 PM »
https://youtu.be/DkkUBW7aJ2I
VIC transformer from Russia.
None of my comments, just a link.
Just one question, the high voltage winding is wound with high resistance wire.
really stainless steel ??


Interesting...


First I left a comment on his video urging him to vacuum resin seal these bobbins as if he doesn't they will always short out on him. Now I can't understand a word of what he is saying but it seems he first followed the instructions given by Don Gable and then went on to make his own the way he saw fit. The problem as I see it is no one seems to know the rules for designing and making high voltage transformers.


Now for you Kolbacist, do you remember me talking about the blocking diode? As I remember telling everyone that this blocking diode is a switch that is either on or it's off. You need to understand what's going on as then your question would be answered on your own. You see when the switch is on the capacitor is being allowed to discharge as it is being directly shorted out by the coils but we don't really want it to discharge all that quickly do we? If it discharges too fast it will have nothing left from which to build upon when the next pulse hits the primary coil. Think of it this way, if I charge the capacitor and put a 200 watt bulb across it, that is to say short the capacitor out with the bulb, it will discharge the capacitor very quickly, yes? But if you put a LED across the capacitor to short it out it will take some time before the capacitor will be drained of it's charge, yes? This is why the resistance wire was used as Meyer didn't want to discharge capacitor too fast.


With the resistance wire the voltage intensifier circuit is still in a direct short condition but the load that is being placed on the capacitor to discharge it when the switch is on is very low thanks to the use of resistance wire. If you use pure copper wire the load that will be placed on the capacitor during it's discharge cycle will be far higher and thus draining the capacitor completely of it's charge between pulsings which is something we don't want to happen.


You see it's better to understand what is going on as you could have easily answered this question you asked me on your own if you had just listened to me awhile ago when I went over what the blocking diode is actually doing. To me this is just further proof that no one is really listening to me and instead just wanting me to feed them all the answers while they understand nothing about this technology as a result. Kinda like someone feeding you the answers on a test so that you will pass it but when you get to the real world on a job you will then fail as you didn't learn what it was you were supposed to learn when you had the chance to do so.


Right now I seem to be the only one that wishes to understand this technology fully and also to be the only one with the drive to actually see this technology through till the end which is why I really don't feel like teaching this technology to anyone anymore as no one truly listens to me anyways but instead just want me to answer their test questions for them which truly gets them nowhere in the end.


So, hopefully now you understand the use of resistance wire from a practical point of view as to what it was Meyer was trying to accomplish by making use of it. Now you can see Alan's advice is yet wrong again as like you he doesn't understand the basics of why the resistance wire was used in the first place.


Take care,
Edward
« Last Edit: July 19, 2021, 09:31:58 AM by h20power »

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« Reply #652 on: July 24, 2021, 05:02:57 PM »
It's been seven days since I made the above post and not a soul has bothered to even say thanks for clearing things up on the use of resistance wire in the VIC transformer. No one has even made an effort to say if this information has helped or not helped them in their understanding of this new method of breaking the bonds of the water molecules. Am I so far out in front of everyone else with this technology that what I say simply can't be seen by anyone anymore?


All technologies have rules that need to be followed if they are to be recreated and this technology is no different. There are rules for building the transformers correctly, rules for building the water fuel cells correctly, and rules for building the circuits correctly. There are totally new scientific concepts to be learned and expounded upon. And yes there is a need to get this technology onto the marketplace to start the healing process to our climate change problems which we all have contributed too.


It really bothers me when I make a post like this that tells the truth about this technology that sheds light on things that confused everyone and it is treated as if I handed you all some trash to be taken to the landfill. This is not ignoring someone it is not acknowledging them for being correct about something you folks simply didn't seem to understand about the technology yet.


I really can't wait to get the SLA printer so that I can once again move forwards with this technology as to me it's all to clear that I must go this alone. For the most part all I get for my efforts to help people understand this technology is new inventive ways to be hated upon. If memory serves me correctly I've only received help from one person on this site that will aid me in getting this technology onto the marketplace. In all these years that I have been on this forum only one person has openly given me aid all the rest seem to only show me contempt and as I stated new ever inventive ways to show hate towards me.


Because I tell the truth have I now become your enemy? When I look back on things it sure looks to be that way from my perspective.


Shabbat Shalom,
Edward




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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #653 on: August 10, 2021, 06:11:42 PM »
I keep hearing all this talk about the need to do something about our Climate Change problems but see no action when I present this technology that can fully replace our need to make use of fossil fuels and more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFXAU-D-5uE They have many a video stating that we only have around 9 years left before it's too late and each time I reach out to these folks it's seems I am just talking to folks who are deaf. Time and time again I post on Tweeter, FaceBook, and even YouTube and for the most part people just don't seem willing to give this technology their support.


In 1968 this technology first appeared in the Philippines and was put down less than a year later by the IMF and World Banks because they were long on oil. When the Arab embargo lead to fuel shortages and large price hikes another man stepped up to the challenge but was ignored by the scientific community and failed to get the publics support that would have put this technology in the marketplace. In all this time since the earth is now showing us the error of our ways but as a whole we just don't move to support the actions of the few that come up with solutions to solve these problems: [size=78%]https://www.gofundme.com/f/energy-independence-for-you-and-me[/size] In time when things get really bad I wonder will the people finally be moved enough to give this technology their support?


This technology which is more than 50 years old could have prevented all of this if the people simply gave this technology their support. But from the looks of it all these people claiming to want to do something about climate change seem to be really just sounding off as each and everyone that I have managed to get in contact with totally ignore this technology that will put the fossil fuel industry in the history books where it belongs. A lot of you reading this aren't even 50 years old so for you if this technology had gotten the people's support you would have only learned about our fossil fuel use in the history classes.


I think I have stated this before but I'll state it again, I don 't see an equal to this technology from any other emerging technology on the planet to this date. No technology that I know of can do the things this technology is capable of doing. But this time around I did something very different from those that came before me in that I put the science behind this technology out for all to see and learn from as everyone else before me took what they knew about this technology with them in death. But thus far all of my efforts have fallen on deaf ears and it even gets worse as in sites like these where it is said this technology is welcome it gets no support but only seems to increase the amount of enemies that want to see the world go down in flames or at the very least their actions make it clear that is the direction they are heading in :'( . I wonder how many more years must I wait before the people will give this technology that has the power to turn the tide on our climate change problems their full support? I guess I will find out if I live to be able to tell the tale in the end.


Shalom,
Edward

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« Reply #654 on: August 11, 2021, 03:55:09 PM »
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it's seems I am just talking to folks who are deaf.
Do you actually release gas in the entire volume of water between the electrodes?
Or it is in the narrow zone on the  surface plate only ?

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« Reply #655 on: August 11, 2021, 05:04:27 PM »
Do you actually release gas in the entire volume of water between the electrodes?
Or it is in the narrow zone on the  surface plate only ?


From my observations the gases are produced right in the middle right between the two electrodes and the area of gas production grows the higher the voltages are raised. Now unlike most that are doing this I am not pushing much in the way of amps through the water bath as the amps flowing through the water bath is just 0.6 mA as I am keeping the voltage within ±5 volts of each other with the positive voltage most of the time just 5 volts above the absolute value of the negative voltage. Keeping the voltage potentials almost equal is key to the high level of amp restriction that flows through the cell. In Meyer's SMTB if one reads the words Meyer states this need for the voltages to be equal several times but most only seem to look at the photos and never go over the reading material in the SMTB. In any event this is what I have observed taking place with my WFC's.

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« Reply #656 on: August 12, 2021, 08:00:47 AM »
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From my observations the gases are produced right in the middle right between the two electrodes and the area of gas production grows the higher the voltages are raised.
This is more interesting ... :)
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I am keeping the voltage within ±5 volts of each other with the positive voltage most of the time just 5 volts above the absolute value of the negative voltage.
And where (in what place) do you have kilovolts?

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« Reply #657 on: August 12, 2021, 12:31:09 PM »
Didn't know that shalom means that, cool, thanks.  Here's another one, it points to the cross.

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« Reply #658 on: August 12, 2021, 05:59:52 PM »
Hi Alan,


Just so you know our messiah, Yahushua, wasn't put to death on a cross but was lynched in a tree read Acts 5:30 for confirmation. Basically the King James Bible must be tossed out as the heathens took to the scriptures rewriting them in their own image and the result of that massive rewrite is the King James Bible. In their version they took out the creators name, the name of his son, and changed most of the names of his chosen people to reflect names that sounded like it came from their culture. The word they use to justify all of this is "Transliteration" which is when a group of them sat around and gave themselves the authority to make changes to anyone's history they came across. A lot of people don't know this but as late as 600 AD many of those people in the European countries not only didn't have any written communication skills but no oral communication skills either. Basically they are a people history forgot as they haven't much of a history to be proud of.


I tossed out that heathen rewrite years ago and replaced it with the Cepher where all of the names have been restored and most of the books the heathens took out have been put back into the scriptures. In many places it reads quite a bit differently as the heathens made changes in many areas of the scriptures so that basically they would be worshiped and obeyed by those they indoctrinated when they set out with their ships to spread the "Good News" armed with guns, swords, and the Bible as it was a mission to concur the known world by force.


They have things so twisted that they actually have people praying to be killed by the creator when he returns as to be "Taken" means to be killed: [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_UgEBla2OI[/size] It's sad to see this but they don't call Christianity "The Strong Delusion" in the scriptures for no reason. The only way to awake from the Strong Delusion is with the truth and for me that truth was learning that the letter "J" was created/invented in 1478. With that truth I began to see through their lies and deceptions.


Anyway I thought it was important for you to know that our messiah wasn't put to death on a cross but lynched in a tree as the whole cross thing is a Roman attribute.


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #659 on: August 12, 2021, 06:46:37 PM »
This is more interesting ... :)And where (in what place) do you have kilovolts?


The "so called magic" happens when a potential difference of 1000 volts is reached per resonant cavity. So for a ten series WFC as I am using nothing happens until I reach 10 kv being applied to the series cell array by the transformer. The voltage measurements are taken right at the WFC. The cells must be made exactly as Meyer's cells were made to get the same result he did as any changes will require different voltages to get the process started. A larger space gap between the electrode will require more voltage and a smaller space gap will require less voltage. The problem with a small space gap is the capacitance of the cell will be too high which requires a smaller transformer at these frequencies that will not have enough energy to drive the cell and for a larger space gap the problem is in the wire's protective coating for the most part as it will not be able to withstand the higher voltages without shorting out.
Now that we have better coatings than Meyer had for use in his time we can open up the space gap between the cells a bit but just know the voltage requirements to get the process started will also go up as a result of these changes.


What I am about to say right now may come as a shock to some people but I feel I have had a change of heart seeing that my funding efforts aren't panning out all that well as in my view this technology should have been on the market so that it can do its job of turning the tide on climate change a long time ago. This caused me to revaluate things and when I did so I saw that when it became known that I am a Negro, back in 2013, practically all of my crowdfunding efforts donations seem to dry up over night. So, I am now going to do as those that have come before me in that if I die I will be also taking what I know about this technology with me. Sorry but if I am to be denied the opportunity to put this technology on the marketplace then I have to draw a line in the sand and stand fast and not be moved. When I look at history all things point to folks of color like me aren't given a fair shot at doing something to truly change our world for the better as most right now don't even know that the first person to do all of this was from the Philippines by a man of color but he has been forgotten replaced by someone that is not a man of color.


So again to make this perfectly clear I have had a change of heart and am now willing to take what I know about this technology with me in death if I am to be denied the opportunity to champion this technology after putting in so many years of my life uncovering this technology's secrets. So this post will more than likely be the last time I teach anything about this technology. Sorry about this but after looking back on things this is the only way I can move forwards as it's perfectly clear this blocking and general negative attitude towards me isn't going to stop anytime soon unless I make a final stand.


Shalom Everyone,
Edward Mitchell
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