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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #270 on: September 16, 2014, 09:26:43 PM »

Hydrogen production using cheap metals (Nickel/Nickel Oxide) at low voltage is now possible and very efficient.  Such that a single AAA battery can be made to produce it via simple method.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh_0cRYebYU

http://news.stanford.edu/pr/2013/pr-nickel-water-splitter-111213.html


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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #271 on: September 16, 2014, 10:20:24 PM »
Hydrogen production using cheap metals (Nickel/Nickel Oxide) at low voltage is now possible and very efficient.  Such that a single AAA battery can be made to produce it via simple method.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh_0cRYebYU

http://news.stanford.edu/pr/2013/pr-nickel-water-splitter-111213.html


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I am well aware of that technology and as always they are 5-10 years down the road. This I am showing and telling you is happening right now.

I guess what most fail to realized about what Meyer did is it operates at a subatomic level. Now it would take me too long to lay all of that out for everyone so that means you all have to do your own homework on the things I say.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #272 on: September 16, 2014, 10:43:26 PM »
you guys only need two electrodes in said water and preferably distilled water because you dont want all the chemicals to react to the magnetic moments in the water for starters !!   And another thing is that your trying to mess with single molecules at a time too here !!   I found out that you can flash the whole mass of distilled water with the magnetic moment as pulses but with all the frequencies like lightning bolts hint hint !!!   You have to get rid of all the bad negative Ion's of said water which are also Negative Electrons that are losing there magnetism because of heating up the tap water to get the distilled water that affects each negative electrons when all electrons are part of the magnet flux lines which are static in themselves !!! Here is a diagram to show you all here how blowned up you can see what I am talking about how the electrons are attracted to the oxygen now
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #273 on: September 17, 2014, 02:56:55 AM »
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I am well aware of that technology and as always they are 5-10 years down the road.

Perhaps not as well aware as you assume.  Afterall, the methodology for depositing thin films of Nickel Oxide on cheap silicon wafers is not rocket science.  It's only 5-10 years down the road for those who prefer the hard way. The point is, it is simple and they're doing it N-O-W.

http://jes.ecsdl.org/content/146/4/1407.abstract

The technology is eminently scalable and much simpler and more efficient than any other I've seen.  And I've been down that road aways.  And its back alleys too.

Hydrogen catalysis don't get much simpler than that, and with the observed output at 1.5v with a triple A battery.....

Well, the results speak for themselves.


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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #274 on: September 17, 2014, 03:36:21 AM »
with 1.5v of DC you can use a coil with it to up the voltages but you would need a DC capacitor with this also to harness the energy and then use it when you need it all to produce a flashing affect to the whole water !!!  Energy is not wasted

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #275 on: September 17, 2014, 09:38:31 PM »
Perhaps not as well aware as you assume.  Afterall, the methodology for depositing thin films of Nickel Oxide on cheap silicon wafers is not rocket science.  It's only 5-10 years down the road for those who prefer the hard way. The point is, it is simple and they're doing it N-O-W.

http://jes.ecsdl.org/content/146/4/1407.abstract

The technology is eminently scalable and much simpler and more efficient than any other I've seen.  And I've been down that road aways.  And its back alleys too.

Hydrogen catalysis don't get much simpler than that, and with the observed output at 1.5v with a triple A battery.....

Well, the results speak for themselves.


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I know all about the artificial leaf and that is the technology they are talking about. Did you notice the date June 29th 1998 which is just a few months after the death of Stanley A. Meyer? I can guaranty that you or anyone that I have ever seen before have never gotten the results being shown to everyone of getting the voltages being applied to the water fuel capacitor up to 8.8kv and note I am a lot higher now. I talked about how this technology works at the Global BEM with an interview from last year done by John Fraser. Even with one transformer blown I was able to show voltages being applied to the water fuel capacitor that no one has ever seen before.

The bottom line however is this; Replacing the current energy sellers is going to be a monumental task so there is plenty of room for all that come up with working solutions to start the process running on their own merit or ideas just as long as they put it in a package that the consumers can buy and more importantly use. Just to give you an idea of just how large the task at hand is lets just look at one state in the Union California. In 2012 32 million cars where registered in the state of California and at a rate of one million cars converted per year it would take 32 years to complete the task at hand assuming no growth. My one little company would be hard pressed to get this done in 32 years and note we are only talking about just one state in the union and only talking about the cars registered on the road ways and haven't begun to talk about all the forklifts, farming equipment, and anything else that needs to be converted to running on this clean technology.
You people need to wake the hell up and do the math and stop with these petting arguments and vain jangling as this is not going to be an easy task to do in replacing the current system we have in place right now. Please get your heads out of the dream world and start actually doing something towards getting the task at hand completed.
So basically what I am telling all of you is if your not doing something to solve the problem then you are part of the problem as the time for sitting around doing nothing has long since passed.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #276 on: September 17, 2014, 10:18:22 PM »
oh Did Stanley Meyers said anything about deionizing the negative out of water in his videos ?  If he did not then that is what he is also doing there and all negative Ion's are also all negative electrons that are losing there magnetic attraction to itself and the temperatures does play with one of major parts of water !!  And sir I dont have my head in my butt you would say here because the findings I came up with is the only explanation to my experimenting with distilled water in my video !!  Have or has anyone tried to use one paper clip and one stainless steel spoon to get what I got yet here ?   No because you guys think you got all the dang answer but dont !!!   Its ok if you or anyone here dont listen to me its fine by me because I got something you guys have not seen or used yet !!!   I wish that someone would work with me on my findings but its ok also because some of you guys are lost then and do not care to help me out at all when you got your own heads up your tuss yourselves !!!
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #277 on: March 15, 2015, 11:54:13 AM »
oh Did Stanley Meyers said anything about deionizing the negative out of water in his videos ?  If he did not then that is what he is also doing there and all negative Ion's are also all negative electrons that are losing there magnetic attraction to itself and the temperatures does play with one of major parts of water !!  And sir I dont have my head in my butt you would say here because the findings I came up with is the only explanation to my experimenting with distilled water in my video !!  Have or has anyone tried to use one paper clip and one stainless steel spoon to get what I got yet here ?   No because you guys think you got all the dang answer but dont !!!   Its ok if you or anyone here dont listen to me its fine by me because I got something you guys have not seen or used yet !!!   I wish that someone would work with me on my findings but its ok also because some of you guys are lost then and do not care to help me out at all when you got your own heads up your tuss yourselves !!!
Tom

Sorry about the late reply but I don't always come to this site much now days.

You speak as if I should know the name "Tom" and of some video of yours but don't provide any links to. You ask for support but choose to fight is that your way of trying to gain my support? If so let me tell you it isn't working for you nor will it.

You come at me trying to tell me how you think this all works basically with an attitude of forcing your views on me but don't show any proof of your work. Like a lot of others will find out when I choose to speak about this technology you should choose to listen. Unlike you I am not playing around with paper clips as can be seen here as this is the whole prototype setup I am currently working with: http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y320/h2opower/IMG_0700_zps8bd5a84c.jpg As you can clearly see I have put a lot of time, money, and effort into this technology and am not just playing around with paper clips.

This technology is not an easy nut to crack and as a result over preforming many experiments I can tell you that with each new thing found out more things pop up that need to be solved a lot of times. Up to this point I have had a voltage sticking point of 9.2kv being applied to the exciter array but I think I have this problem solved now. I am just hopping that another new problem doesn't pop up this time around that I will have to solve before reaching the threshold for ionization of the atoms that make up the water molecules.

This technology is on the complex side and as a result of that many have tried and failed to get the results Meyer talks about and shows in a few of his videos. When they fail to the point of giving up they then turn Nay Sayer out of arrogance. I have already shared the core science behind this technology back in 2013 and have yet to witness anyone making good use of what I shared with the world free of cost. I am really no longer in the sharing mood these days as all I have to show for it is a lot of people telling me I don't know what I am talking about despite my efforts showing everyone that you can put high voltages directly to a water bath in direct contact with uncoated SS metal electrodes. I have shown my work on the net of just what my many experiments show on how this technology actually works but only a small few choose to follow my lead. So few in fact I say what's the point? I show people things they have never seen concerning this technology that perfectly matches up with what Meyer says should be taking place in his many lectures that can be found on the net, IE, high voltage being applied to a water bath while restricting the flow of amps into the milliamp rang.

In time people will be looking over everything I have left up on the net, just call it a feeling I have for now.

Well, time to get back to work.
Take care and happy experimenting 8)
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #278 on: September 15, 2016, 08:34:17 PM »
It's been a while since I have posted on this forum but rest assured I have been hard at work getting this technology solved. As of right now all of the science and math is showing to be correct as it is following right along with experimental results. But my views on how things should go have totally changed as I have added to my thinking a complete understanding of just how the markets work and know to have everyone trying to build "One-offs" is heading in the wrong direction as this technology has to follow sound market principles which show if it is to come out to the masses that need it the most it has to do so by way of mass production. This new understanding has put me at odds with the way things are being done and planned for right now so I wrote an article about it here: http://aetherforce.com/truth-open-source-inventors-perspective/


In the attachment you will find some information that explains a lot about this technology and goes over many things most people missed as they tried to solve this technology. Right now I just need a little more time as I have to wait for some things to be made for me before I can proceed with the next round of experiments.
I hope you all enjoy the information in the attachment and found the article I wrote to shed some light on the problems I found with Open Source.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #279 on: September 16, 2016, 01:21:32 AM »
Hi thanks for the post, I'm going to enjoy reading it thoroughly with a cuppa over the weekend. One thing I have noticed while glancing through the PDF is that you have the water molecule splitting directly into O and H.  This process has never been seen in any scientific study , including vapour  electrolysis in high voltage fields. Water seems to always dissociate into OH- and H+ in high electric fields, because the Oxygen is so damn electronegative. One H+ is easy to rip away from the neutral molrcule but the other seems to be attracted so much that it apparenly doest happen. I know Meyer had the same splitting going described on his videos.
What are your thoughts on this??
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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #280 on: September 16, 2016, 02:06:04 AM »
A while ago I got this effect with Meyer's technology:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW78gKn1ZZ0


You will notice that there are very few small bubbles and the only way for this to be possible that I can think of is for the gases to be coming of in their monatomic gas state. I am not the only one that has gotten this effect. One thing we all notice is that the gases seems to generate right in the middle of the electrodes and not on the electrodes themselves. So, to honest it's a guess that it is coming off this way but it seems to be a good guess.


I have a question for you, if you don't mind? Who have you seen getting voltages like these with this technology? The only reason I ask is thus far I am the only one that I know of that is doing so. In 2013 at the Global BEM I reached 4.2kv. Latter on that year I reached 5.2kv and as time past I made it to 6.3kv, 7.5kv, 8,8kv, and finally to 9.2kv. With the next setup I should be able to reach 14kv or more if the math checks out experimentally.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #281 on: September 16, 2016, 05:03:41 AM »
 I've been focusing on nanosecond electrolysis at low voltages, so I can't make any comments about HV  as yet. I guess the only comment is that in the video that came up after your link there are 450mA passing at 150V.  That's about 70W if its DC . How much of that do you think  is going into producing the hydrogen?  i guess I'm asking how does that compare with a system that uses 3.5V with 20A?  I'm very impressed with amount of gas coming from DI water regardless of efficiency, as the amount of current causing such quantities of gas on your video should not flow unless there are traces of ions or lots of atmospheric CO2.  In conventional electrolysis, having not much electrolyte is a recipe for huge  IxR losses, so the setup should  heat up after an hour or so of work at 70W, unless something revolutionary is happening, which could well be.  I really have to have a good read of your setup before I ask too many more  stupid questions. What is the best link to your work?

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #282 on: September 16, 2016, 06:22:08 AM »
@Ed,

Like your video, but I will tell you this:

If you ever get a true impedance match within your VIC, you better have that cell located in an explosion-proof container.  With those voltages, it will almost for sure arc over and the gas in there will be like Nitro-Glycerin.  Basically, a MAJOR setback.

Right now the only thing that is saving your hind end is that your balance is still a little bit off, i.e. you have your voltage zone near one plate or the other instead of centered.  My recommendation is that you cut back on the power and make adjustments by either adjusting your negative choke or add an external plate capacitor.

You've done a lot of work and I'd hate to see you blow yourself up.  With just a few tweaks you'll discover you do not need nearly so much power going into the cell.  Let voltage do the work, but only after you are properly tuned.


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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #283 on: September 16, 2016, 07:01:10 AM »
That was from Meyer's 8xa circuit and yes it pushed amps but had a lot of high voltage spikes to go along with it. The MMW was only 3.0 but that is pure distilled water with nothing added to it. The plate spacing is only around 0.032 inches which a lot of us believe forces the hydrogen to come off in it's monatomic state. When I started getting high voltage there would be almost no small bubbles at all and now that I have been able to keep the B- and B+ voltages to within 20 volts of each other even at 9.2kv there is absolutely no gas production like normal as the current was measured to be only 0.6 mA flowing through the cell. It took me awhile to figure out just what was actually going on with this technology but like I said thus far the math and science seems to follow right along with experimental results. From what I can tell for a cell the size of mines it's going to take around 10.5-11.5kv to get it to just reach the threshold for ionization. For the most part it's works just like an ozone generator breaking the bonds of oxygen molecules with the only difference being the medium is now an semi conductive liquid, water. [/size]


From my research I found several things in nature that separate the water molecules in the same manor by getting at the electrons. One of them does so in the exact same way, it's all written on the page showing the supporting evidence for the theory I came up with. This is how I know it's going to work for it already happens in nature it just took awhile to learn how to get the voltage potential up to Meyer's stated working voltages for this technology. Lots of trial and error let me tell you lots.


Water is just about the same as any molecular gas in that the atoms will ionize at almost the same energy level for it takes 1312 kJ/mole for hydrogen and 1313.9 kJ/mol for oxygen. Something about this makes it possible to break it apart just the same as any molecular gas in a high voltage situation. What is needed is another full study on ionization by the scientific community as I feel they missed something. As for a link to my work I stop sharing awhile ago but I do have some of it on this Face Book page: https://www.facebook.com/True-Green-Solutions-189789027762878/?fref=nf
I just ran into far too many people that only wanted to fight with me and would ignore any science I'd bring forth. So, I left them to their thoughts and from the looks of it they simply ran out of steam now.


And to Dog-one don't worry as at amperages this low it just doesn't have enough energy to make an arc of this distance. The amps never get over 0.6 mA as long as I keep it in resonance no matter the voltage. It seems all that matters is I keep the B- and B+ as close to the same voltage, but opposite polarity, as possible. Plus remember Meyer did this and ran his car down the highway.  Remember that 9.2kv gets divided by ten so it's only 920 volts per resonant cavity. Meyer states that to get this working correctly I have to get between 1000 and 2000 volts per resonant cavity.

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Re: Stanley Meyer Explained
« Reply #284 on: September 16, 2016, 08:09:23 AM »
Then lower the capacitance of each cell and reduce the number of cells and you should be in the ballpark.