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One of the most astounding stories of real power comes from the legend of Edward Leedskalnin. For those of you who don't know, he is the person who build the Coral Castle.
It is one of the strangest stories you may ever read about. Like Tesla, he did things that cannot be explained, and yet no one can refute that he actually accomplished an amazing feat.
The evidence for his work is the huge blocks of stone that he moved and placed all by himself. The evidence, as they say, speaks for itself. All one has to do is travel to Florida and visit the castle.
The question remains, "What power did he use to do what he did"? That he used something has never been refuted by anyone to this day. One thing is for sure; it had to be real. Because, you see, if it was flimflammery, there often wasn't enough time to do any tricks. And there were no helpers ever seen.
Was it the same power as used by the builders of the pyramid? Was it the same as the levitation used for building by the Tibetan monks? What was the singing all about? Somethiing to do with magnetic resonance?
You want a real source of tremendous power? Tap into whatever it was that he used.
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I second the motion for this topic. Actually - I think there should be a section for documentation of all historical mysteries.
This would include Coral Castle, Tesla's radiant energy and aether tapping circuits, Gray's motor, and others.
There are many instances of where someone has broken the rules of modern science, and they are mentioned here and there on this site... but it would be handy to have a section dedicated to evidence of these things.
In the case of Coral Castle - I have a copy of the papers written by Leedskalnin. I would post them in a section dedicated to evidence and data. I'm sure many have visited it first hand and might have noticed something that has not been mentioned... and Richard Hoagand collected some data there a year or so ago relating to magnetic anomalies... that should be posted there too.
Tesla wrote and spoke on the subject of his devices and there are many books that have some of that... along with plenty of speculation... but it would be great to have a single repository for all 'factual' data, like patents and speeches he gave.
If we are to solve the puzzle of overunity, then it only makes sense to focus on the facts surrounding devices that have been built and tested and apparently worked. For me - this would be whatever technology Leedskalnin used, Tesla's technology, Gray's motor, and of course the testakica machine.
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First let me claim no expertise on this subject. What I have learned through a little reading though is this; The people in Egypt made tuning forks, some up to 8 feet long. Everybody every were is speculating all types of things from all the way of the alchemist of the time poured crushed rock to the rocks were floated by harmonics. I don't want to add to a fire that remains unlit. I just want you to be aware they had tuning forks.
The contraversy is they seeming to also have had (steel), these forks are said to be able to viberate for a long period of time.
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G'day all,
I agree, there should be a section devoted to Leedskalnin. There is a website where much of his material can be found:
http://www.leedskalnin.com
They also have a forum going on Yahoo groups
Hans von Lieven
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Thanks for the plug mate...
MMMMM a little thread I can call home ;)
Tesla stated that "The day when we shall know exactly what electricity is, will chronical an event probably greater, more important ect ect ..than any other in the history of the human race."
Ed Leedskalnin says "Researchers, read about magnetic currents, then you will know what it is, how it is made, what makes it, and the way it runs in a wire. Then you will know what the North and South pole individual magnets can do, and then you will know what electricity is"
SEE THE EXCITEMENT COMING.
Scotty
Leedskalnin.com
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G'day Scotty,
Gearing up for Ed's generator then? The best of luck to you mate. You are a trooper!
Hans von Lieven
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Mate you ARE quick...you got multiple screens going?
According to all my study I have to make an atom orbit...then break it....and release it so that it reforms by itself ready for the next start.
Then the magnets are running side by side in the same direction...and are attracted to the matter that is in front of them causing pulsed tension on the atomic orbits of the said matter. :o
Angular flux dislplacement via internal self excitation via external induction is something i would like to try for a first go. ???
cheers
Scotty
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We do Psychic Fairs at Coral Castle 4 or 5 time a year, it is a very interesting place to visit.
George King georgeking@cosmicsalamander.com
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For those who are looking for a more scientific explanation as to how a skinny little 100 lb man such as Leedskalnin could manipulate such huge blocks of stone, check out this video on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRRDzFROMx0
Remember also, that Leedskalnin himself regularly said that he had a great understanding of the fundamentals of leverage and pulley systems and repeated on numerous occasions that he had merely rediscovered what the ancients knew.
The real mystery of Coral Castle lies not in how he may have built it, (though it is a worthy mystery deserving of explanation) but rather, in how he transported the stones from the quarry location to the location where the castle was built. ???
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G'day hoptoad and all,
From what I have read the stones were transported there by truck when he had to move.
Hans von Lieven
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G'day hoptoad and all,
From what I have read the stones were transported there by truck when he had to move.
Hans von Lieven
That is also how I understand the blocks were moved. But the problem to me lies in the fact that any trucks available in Leedkalnins day
seem to be severely underpowered and under engineered for the task at hand. Especially when one reads accounts from neighbours about the sort of truck Leedskalnin was reported to have used, which accordingly was a small rigid traytop type. Still I must admit I've seen underpowered and overloade trucks doing miraculous feats in the outback of Australia, driven by truckies who seem to know how to "squeeze blood from a stone"! LOL :D
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Tell me about it,
I have spent quite some time in the outback, I know what they do :-)
I am in Sydney by the way.
Hans von Lieven
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Tell me about it,
I have spent quite some time in the outback, I know what they do :-)
I am in Sydney by the way.
Hans von Lieven
Greetings Hans :- BTW I recently visited your website and read about Keely and his experiments with sound resonance. Interesting stuff.
I wonder if there are any modern day boffins out there secretly or even publicly working on any of his theories with modern day electronic/audio equipment.
Sydney heh? Been there a few times, great bridge, great harbour, shocking traffic! LOL :D
I am actually in Torquay (Victoria). I only just moved here recently after living in a tiny little one horse town called Marion Bay on Yorke Peninsula in South Australia. I really loved Marion Bay, but the work prospects there are few and far between and after 17 years of really struggling to make a living I had to move from my little paradise.
I used to work for Telecom and began my career with them during the great transition from the old relay switching technology (step and crossbar) to the modern semiconductor/computer technology. It was during those early years that I developed a fascination for magnetic systems, collapsing emf, and holding circuits. This fascination has stayed with me ever since. In telecommunications, the "evil collapsing emf" was constantly to the fore, and much attention was paid to diminishing it in every way possible, except in holding circuits where great attention was made in using it to advantage to time different relay operations.
I strayed into "overunity research" in the early 90's when a friend of mine (also from Sydney) sent me a great deal of information regarding Adams pulsed motors. Being the active skeptic that I am, I set about constructing my own adams motors. In all, I spent a continuous period of around 10 years constructing many different versions. To this day I have never seen any "over-unity" coming from an adams motor, but many of the motors I constructed displayed very high efficiency ratings and almost all of them ran very cool even under load condition, indicating that losses were indeed very low. During that time I also designed many simple Permanent Magnet alternators which I can assure you exhibited high efficiency, were extremely simple in design, and exhibited greater efficiency over a wider range of loading than any conventional alternator/generator that I have come across. But never have I succeeded with any motor/generator circuit in achieving the elusive overunity results which many seem to claim.
My interest has not waned, however, since even high efficiency power generation alone is a very desirtable outcome.
Cheers from hoptoad - real name Brian Hopgood :)
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G'day again Brian,
To answer your question. Yes we are actively working on Keely's theories using modern electronics. The project currently on the table is to duplicate Keely's dissociation of water.
It will be an open project and I will publish what we are doing once we are just a little way further down the track.
The design work at the moment centers around an AM transmitter with a carrier frequency adjustable between 4 and 5 KHz. Into this is fed an audio signal generated on a computer that can create any chord combination. Each Chord is fully adjustable as to amplitude. The programme to do this is already written and it works.
The PCB's for the transmitter are expected to be finished within a couple of months. (There are some modifications to the circuitry that are being determined right now, hence the hold up)
Keep in touch if you are interested.
Thanks for your interest.
Hans von Lieven
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G'day again Brian,
To answer your question. Yes we are actively working on Keely's theories using modern electronics. The project currently on the table is to duplicate Keely's dissociation of water.
It will be an open project and I will publish what we are doing once we are just a little way further down the track.
The design work at the moment centers around an AM transmitter with a carrier frequency adjustable between 4 and 5 KHz. Into this is fed an audio signal generated on a computer that can create any chord combination. Each Chord is fully adjustable as to amplitude. The programme to do this is already written and it works.
The PCB's for the transmitter are expected to be finished within a couple of months. (There are some modifications to the circuitry that are being determined right now, hence the hold up)
Keep in touch if you are interested.
Thanks for your interest.
Hans von Lieven
I will definitely keep in touch and I look forward to your research results. Wish you all the best of luck (though luck usually is only a second runner to persistence)!
Cheers from hoptoad :)
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Hi guys another Aussie here too. I was drawn towards this thread out of interest to Leedskalnin, Im glad I bumped into it.
@ Brian. I am currently learning/building a pulsed motor setup along with a few others in this thread here. http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3318.0/topicseen.html
Alot of our design is similar to the Adams motor, borrowing from Bedini and others too. I would be honored if you would visit it sometime, perhaps share your knowledge, maybe even learn something! Who knows.
I would be interested to read Lee's mag currents if anyone does have a link to them, just looking at some of the pictures of his magneto/generator was quite inspiring considering when it was built.
Anyways good to meet some of the locals here, I'm in Gosford by the way. Cheers
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G'day Ren,
Welcome to the forum
Hans von Lieven
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I have been a fan of Edward Leedskelnin for years. I also have copies of his papers and photos of Coral Castle taken by my parents who live a little north of there. One thing Ifind very interesting in the reading and photos was that, he had no electricty, at least not from the grid. People interviewed from the time period said that his castle was illuminated at night. He devised a "wheel" using magnets and coils from cars and said that once you started it, it would produce electricty until you stopped it. Many of you have probably seen pictures of this device. It had a wooden handle on it to get it started. As for moving the castle using trucks, I read an interview someone did for a book on Ed and they knew, or were related, to the truck driver. They said that Ed asked him to pull the truck to a certain point and then come back in the morning. When the driver returned, the truck was loaded with tons of huge coral blocks which Ed said he loaded by himself. This process was repeated until the entire castle was moved down the road about 5 miles or so.
Very facinating topic. When I read about people like Ed, I just know that he knew, or discovered something that died with him and science does not know about today. How did he have lights if off the grid? He said that when you started the magnets, they would run forever.
Richard Hogland did some interesting tests at the site but I believe the answer lies not in the location, as Richards believes, but in the knowledge Ed had in his head.
Bill
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Hi guys another Aussie here too. I was drawn towards this thread out of interest to Leedskalnin, Im glad I bumped into it.
@ Brian. I am currently learning/building a pulsed motor setup along with a few others in this thread here. http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3318.0/topicseen.html
Alot of our design is similar to the Adams motor, borrowing from Bedini and others too. I would be honored if you would visit it sometime, perhaps share your knowledge, maybe even learn something! Who knows.
I would be interested to read Lee's mag currents if anyone does have a link to them, just looking at some of the pictures of his magneto/generator was quite inspiring considering when it was built.
Anyways good to meet some of the locals here, I'm in Gosford by the way. Cheers
Greetings Ren and all you other Adams experimenters.
I'm fairly busy at the moment, but when I get a few spare hours here and there, I will try to assist you with some schematics and information which may help you stop burning your halls and transistors/mosfets etc. Though I am no longer interested in Adams motors per se, I'm sure I have some info based on 10 years of experience which will at least enable you to build some highly efficient motors. I have during that time analysed one Adams motor which was showing a small degree of genuine overunity,(built by a friend of mine, and utilysing mechanical switching), but an in depth investigation into it revealed that it was a potential environmental threat. When I get the time I shall explain further.
Cheers from hoptoad
P.S I will re post this on tha Adams thread.
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I hate to see this thread die out. There must be many others out there that have some knowledge of Ed and his work. I remembered the name of the book recently written about ed....."Waiting for Agnes". I don't recall who the autor is but heard a radio interview with him. It appears to be well researched. Has anyone read this yet?
Bill
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Hi Bill and All,
Though I have not read/heard of this book here is some info on it: http://www.waitingforagnes.com/
and http://www.waitingforagnes.com/book.htm
Gyula
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Ed was a scientist.....he wrote about science.
If just a few people realized what he was saying we could all move forward faster.
Ed's booklet MAGNETIC CURRENT is a theory of electromagnetism.
The theory is based on magnetic MONOPOLES.
Ed's theory says that magnetic fields are ALWAYS in motion.
Magnetic fields and collapsing magnetic fields have nothing to do with electrons.
All fields are made by the way the monopoles are poiniting.
We are in the monopoles like fish in water....they are THE SEA OF ENERGY IN WHICH THE EARTH FLOATS...just like Moray said.
Their numbers are limitless.
Closed magnetic circuits contain motion.
Each particle is an individual particle by itself, and both North and South pole particles.
This is what Ed was trying to say.
Scotty
Leedskalnin.com
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Hey.
I would never expect that this forum would hold a refernce to a person of a latvian nationality, considering we are a small nation. This made my day, thank you!
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G'day all,
I feel I have to jump in here and come to Scotty's defence.
I find Erfinder's criticism of Scotty's research unwarranted and unfair.
Ed Leedskalnin has developed a coherent theory of magnetism, which he has a legitimate right to do. Not only does he theorise but he suggests a number of experiments that he has done in order to prove his theory. He invites replication.
This is what Scotty is doing. Scotty has built a number of devices and is developing more in order to establish the validity of Ed's theories.
This is a perfectly legitimate and scientific approach to the subject. It is a worthwhile and laudable pursuit, resulting hopefully in the vindication or invalidation of Ed's ideas. Scotty is an honest researcher who methodically examines Ed's concepts and reports his results.
This is science in its true form. No man should be belittled for it.
Hans von Lieven
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Here is a photo of Ed's generator device which he reportidly used to generate electricity for his lights. I read that it was built using ignition coils from old Fords.
(http://)
This guy really fascinates me.
Bill
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Alright.
What is Electricity?
Tesla had this to say in his lecture "Experiments with Alternate Currents of Very High Frequency and Their Application to Methods of Artificial
Illumination", delivered before the American Institute of Electrical Engineers, at Columbia College, N. Y., May 20, 1891.
What is electricity, and what is magnetism ( These questions have been asked again and again. The most able intellects have ceaselessly wrestled with the problem; still the question has not as yet been fully answered. But while we cannot even to-day state what
these singular forces are, we have made good headway towards the solution of the problem. We are now confident that electric and magnetic phenomena are attributable to ether, and we are perhaps justified in saying that the effects of static electricity
are effects of ether under strain, and those of dynamic electricity and electro-magnetism effects of ether in motion. But
this still leaves the question, as to what electricity and magnetism are, unanswered.
Later in this same lecture:
Returning to the subject, and bearing in mind that the existence of two electricities is, to say the least, highly improbable,
we must remember, that we have no evidence of electricity, nor can we hope to get it, unless gross matter is present. Electricity,
therefore, cannot be called "ether" in the broad sense of the term; but nothing would seem to stand in the way of calling electricity
ether associated with matter, or bound ether; or, in other words, that the so-called static charge of the molecule is ether associated
in some way with the molecule. Looking at it in that light, we would be justified in saying, that electricity is concerned in all
molecular actions.
And this later in the same lecture:
The spinning of the molecules and their ether sets up the ether tensions or electrostatic strains; the equalization of ether tensions sets up ether motions or electric currents, and the orbital movements produce the effects of electro and permanent magnetism. About fifteen years ago, Prof. Rowland demonstrated a most interesting and important fact, namely, that a static charge carried around produces the effects of an electric current. Leaving out of consideration the precise nature of the mechanism, which produces the attraction and repulsion of currents, and conceiving the electrostatically charged molecules in motion, this experimental fact gives us a fair idea of magnetism. We can conceive lines
or tubes of force which physically exist, being formed of rows of directed moving molecules; we can see that these lines must be closed, that they must tend to shorten and expand, etc. It likewise explains in a reasonable way, the most puzzling phenomenon uf all, permanent magnetism, and, in general, has all the beauties of the Ampere theory without possessing the vital defect of the same, namely, the assumption of molecular currents. Without enlarging further upon the subject, I would say, that I look upon all electrostatic, current and magnetic phenomena as being due to electrostatic molecular forces.
P.S.
Seen Jon DePew's site? http://www.coralcastlecode.com/id1.html
His "EQUILIBRIUS GRID" is interesting: http://www.coralcastlecode.com/id28.html
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(3) Tesla teaches how electricity moves, but not what it is. Only one has been successful at explaining what electricity is, and his name is never mentioned. Tesla teaches that there is only one type of electricity!
Walter Russell?
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Latvians? Being a fan (and certified expert) of mikrotik... I can say that alot of good things come out of Latvia. :)
I'd like to post the content of Ed's booklet... and start a serious thread about it. I don't think I'll do it here for all the greetings... and all the personal arguments taking place here. :)
But I thought I'd post here to let everyone watching this thread know to look for it.
Should we include aether in the new thread?? Does the current of monopoles that Ed spoke of constitute Aether... or - at least - was he talking about what some call Aether?
There was a recent experiment at a university somewhere that confirmed the existance of Aether. It was a duplicate of the original experiment that "proved" there was no aether (100 years ago?) - but this time they measured it right. If anyone has a link to that info... I would like to include it in the first post to preempt all the brainwashed engineers.
Cheers!!
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G'day Elvis and all,
The original experiment you are talking about is the famous Michelson Morley experiment from 1887
You will find it here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelson-Morley_experiment
Since then the experiment has been repeated on a number of occasions with increased sophistication and the results still stand.
There have been a number of claims by ether theorists that the experiment is invalid, one such claim is here:
http://www.newtonphysics.on.ca/faq/Michelson-Morley.html
To my knowledge there has been no reputable refutation of the result or the construction of the interferometer ( the instrument used in the experiment ). The doubters are mostly people on the scientific fringe.
Hans von Lieven
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One failed experiment or "null" result is not a definitive answer to the question of wether or not an "ether" exists.
Einstein had this to say:
As late as 1920, Einstein himself still spoke of a type of ether that was not a ?ponderable medium? but something of significance nonetheless:
?...More careful reflection teaches us, however, that the special theory of relativity does not compel us to deny ether. We may assume the existence of an ether... Recapitulating, we may say that according to the general theory of relativity space is endowed with physical qualities; in this sense, therefore, there exists an ether... According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is unthinkable; for in such space there not only would be no propagation of light, but also no possibility of existence for standards of space and time (measuring-rods and clocks), nor therefore any space-time intervals in the physical sense. But this ether may not be thought of as endowed with the quality characteristic of ponderable media, as consisting of parts which may be tracked through time. The idea of motion may not be applied to it.?
So, it would seem that the MM experiment actually was "successful", and that a modification of the concept of the ether was the result.
Einstein, Maxwell, Thompson, Tesla, Helmholtz and many other great minds that shaped science all believed in an "ether".
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G'day Grumpy and all,
I was not commenting on the existence or non-existence of an ether, I was simply clarifying what the Michelson Morley experiment was all about and how it is still viewed by mainstream science. My comments were simply an answer to the following as stated by Elvis:
There was a recent experiment at a university somewhere that confirmed the existance of Aether. It was a duplicate of the original experiment that "proved" there was no aether (100 years ago?) - but this time they measured it right. If anyone has a link to that info... I would like to include it in the first post to preempt all the brainwashed engineers.
If he takes my advice and reads up on it he might then be able to explain how all of us engineers are brainwashed into false beliefs. At least at this stage it would appear that the mentioned engineers are a lot better informed than those who call them brainwashed.
Hans von Lieven
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Hi all.....you know the more i read the more i see that Ed was the man.
For any who want to study Ed...go to my Yahoo group linked to leedskalnin.com
I think every engineer is misled, because if Ed is correct then the electrons have nothing to do with electricity.
Even Tesla said the same thing if you study his works.
Tesla noticed pulsations in exploding wires.....
Moray said that if you put a matter under strain and let it go, 2 things may happen.
Ed said to roll up the 6 little magnets in your fingers (pressure), then let them loose...then you will see that they won't stay together.
Ed's notes explain how Tesla coils work, but the so called electrons never show up.
The energy from Tesla's coils travelled at 470, 000 kilometers per second.....faster than light.
The electrons were not responsible for that energy movement.
Einstein admitted there was an aether....
Ed said the North and South pole individual magnets are the aether...of cosmic force....
The alchemist says .... A yellow altar stood opposite me from which a pure flame ascended having no other substance for its alimentation than the altar itself. Letters in black were engraved at the base of the altar. A lighted torch stood beside it, shining like the sun; hovering above it was a bird with black feet, silvery body, a red head, black wings and a golden neck. It was in constant motion without however using its wings. It could only fly when in the midst of the flames. In its beak was a green branch......Altar, bird and torch are the symbol of all things. Nothing can be done without them. They themselves are all that is good and great.
Ed says..."I think that all nature needs is 3 things, the N and S pole individual magnets and the neutral particles. Each of those three things can act differently with different speed and different combinations, and so they can accomplish different results.
The guy who turned some silver to gold, by the yeast and water shows on his site about the bubbles expansion and contraction....
Ed writes that when he dissolves matter he sees a bubble coming out...then the other bubbles come out from the first in a regular line one after the other. When the first bubble swells up then it contracts in the middle and cuts off the new bubble and then closes up the outgoing end and then swells up again and goes over and over again.
Ed says...What is acid and what gives it the ability to take the other matter in parts..?
The one who will find out exactly how it is done will be a real scientist...Ed.L
Scotty
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First of all - *some* engineers are brainwashed. And I was referring to those who are ;)
I say brainwashed because somewhere in time - science of electricity was put on the wrong path.
I'm not saying to throw out logic and reason... just that we should back up a bit.
I haven't found the link to the experiment that overturned Morley's results... but I am continuing to look.
My point here would be that ed knew something. What did ed know? Let's start with what he said...
Who's with me?
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Hi all...
Ed said " The real magnet is the SUBSTANCE circulating in the metal. Each particle is an INDIVIDUAL MAGNET BY ITSELF, and both North and South pole INDIVIDUAL MAGNETS.
They are so small they can pass through everything....
They are in constant motion.
They are running one kind of magnets against the other kind.
If guided in the right CHANNELS they possess perpetual power.
Each North and South pole magnet is equal in strength.
Each kind of the magnets are coming out of their own pole (in a bar magnet ) and are running around in the other end of the pole and back to its own end, and then over and over again.
The Earth itself is a great big magnet.
The magnets can be sent out in straight streams.
Whatever kind of magnet you send out...the other kind is coming back to you.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7enRyRm3GBU
Investigative journalist Joe Bullard returned to discuss the mysteries surrounding Florida's Coral Castle and its creator Ed Leedskalnin. The Castle and its gardens feature thousands of tons of coral rock that Leedskalnin, a frail man who weighed just 100 pounds, carved into artistic yet functional objects such as tables and chairs, a sundial and a huge perfectly balanced gate. While he made and moved these objects in secret, he claimed he used the same technology that the Egyptians built the pyramids with.
Leedskalnin said he built Coral Castle for his lost love Agnes who jilted him back in Latvia, but Bullard suggested that this tale might have been a cleverly disguised cover story for hiding his secret knowledge and scientific achievements. When Leedskalnin was in a hospital in 1951, shortly before his death, thieves stole some of his tools. Bullard believes this might have been a planned confiscation.
Leedskalnin left a message over his bedroom at the site: THE SECRET OF THE UNIVERSE IS 7129/6105195. One caller said that was the number from Leedskalnin's federal application for citizenship; another caller related the number to the "golden ratio." Bullard's book Waiting for Agnes, a fictionalized account of the Coral Castle story, incorporates the lore of Atlantis and the Bermuda Triangle into the plot.
Joe Bullard was born in Florida in 1951. He attended the University of West Florida and graduated with a Bachelor's degree in Journalism in 1974. He found out about the Coral Castle on the television series called "In Search Of" in September of 1984. During this time he was working at Lake City Community College as Public Information Director and Professor of a newspaper class. Joe spent 10 years of research at Coral Castle and started writing "Waiting for Agnes" in February of 1995. It took him five years to get the story on paper and almost four years to publish it.
April 3rd, 2007
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@ BRAHMA:
I mentioned this book in an earlier post. I heard an interview with the author on coast to coast am. He did a lot of research but, not as scientific as it was more a personal interest story. But still, he brought out a lot of interesting facts that are, to this day, hard to explain. I believe that Ed knew more than we still know of today. What that is will have to be determined.
Bill
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Hi all....as far as i know there never was any plaque...just the numbers which can be seen here...
http://leedskalnin.com/7129x6105195.html (http://leedskalnin.com/7129x6105195.html)
Also...Ed never built the place for Agnes....that would mean he did all the work for a 16 yo girl who was out getting a red face with a fresh boy....and that would be shameful.
Ed never had a girl because he knew it would produce certain effects that he did not want.
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Hans this one seemed up your alley with vibration and color i like the picture aspect too check it out, it relates music to color and other ideas.
http://www.coralcastlecode.com/id68.html (http://www.coralcastlecode.com/id68.html)
Joe
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The Leedskalnin story is quite interesting and not quite as far fetched as it sounds. Basically you have a guy who went to the middle of nowhere and spent many years doing experiments from first principles with an open mind (not previously indoctrinated by science). That sounds like a recipe for eventually learning something. see url
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_principles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_principles)
The major key I think we have is why else would we find the strange artifacts there. (The bottles with wire wrap and the photo with the tripod and box at the top). A builder often leaves his tools lying around. Also, somehow I don't think he wrote a book called "Magnetic current" just as a joke.
BTW, Scotty your web page is great, I've also seen some of your videos before and I applaud your efforts and thanks for sharing them. Great work with the wheel replica, keep us updated.
JohnnyR
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Here are some text files I found somewhere on the internet. I don't think they are copyrighted or at least I hope they aren't. I'm not sure if it is the complete Magcurrent book as I've never seen it.
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Sorry, here's part 1 and 2
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G'day Mr Mag and all,
For a complete and authentic copy of Ed's brochure on magnets go to http://www.leedskalnin.com You can download it from there
Hans von Lieven
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Hi all....
I would recommend doing all Ed's tests.
They are all designed to show that electricity runs both ways in a wire.
The magnetic current bok contains Lenz's law and Oresteads tests are in there too....
The answer to how a disruptive discharge coil works is on page 7.....It explains Tesla coils and agrees with the notes of Henry Moray.
Ed knew what he was doing.
U shaped magnets have a broken orbit, but under the right conditions it is permanent...Ed.L
Ed describes his perpetual motion holder as the same as a ring of wire with current running in it....this means he is saying that a closed magnetic circuit DOES have motion in the metal.....contrary to what science says, and that the right hand thumb rule applies for both pos and neg currents going away from the direction you are looking.
The answer to how alternating currents can run so far is also on page 7 of Ed's notes....
I think all the answers are in Ed's notes...we just haven't found them yet.
Cheers
Scotty
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Attached is a pdf of Ed's book, Magnetic Current.
Where is this explanation of the disruptive discharge coil in this pdf? (Page 7 talks about the earth's magnetic poles.)
Ed states at the bottom of page 37 that he has a small generator that generates currents on a small scale without any -magnets around it.
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Page 7 of Ed's original booklet....
Now roll all 6 together, let loose and you will see that they won't stick together.
Here is what Moray wrote....
"When a resilient substance is subjected to strain and then set free, one of two things may happen. The substance may slowly recover from the strain and gradually attain its natural state, or the elastic recoil may carry it past its position of equilibrium and cause it to execute a series of oscillations. Something of the same sort may also occur when an electrified capacitor is discharged. "
Another way to confirm this is on page 15 of Ed's notes where he shows the recoil over runs.
Scotty
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yup...
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From Meta: If I haven't shared this with you yet, I'd like you to make copies of the website, especially the video, "The Secret of the Universe.
http://www.code144.com/
Please excuse the crummy music on the video. I also have my own copy of the video (RealPlayer)
Meta
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Nice pics on your website. Where do you have them from?
From Meta: If I haven't shared this with you yet, I'd like you to make copies of the website, especially the video, "The Secret of the Universe.
http://www.code144.com/
Please excuse the crummy music on the video. I also have my own copy of the video (RealPlayer)
Meta
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Nice pics on your website. Where do you have them from?
spacetra,
That site (code144.com) is not mine, I hunt for information and post it on Forums like this one.
I also recommend the work of Scotty.
Meta
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@all
Yes code144 , is a good site if you are ready for it !
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@all
Those of you how have read magnetic current , have a look at Eddy current (the discovery was not made by anyone names ed or eddy but it dose seem to talk about the same thing, Interesting.)I know that most of you have some idea about eddy current but its usually not considered .Ed just learn how to use it , like others of his time. That technology needs some faith (some say a good heart)to work since your regular meters can't show it to you , most won't try a load on it.
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Letter to keelynet.com 01/27/2009
re: Model T Magnetic Engine - 04/06/97
Hello to jdecker,
Excellent article ... just one thing ...
Shame that there was no mention of Mr. Edward Leedskalnin. ...
Is this the same "Magnetic Flywheel" used by the magnetic genius ... Ed Leedskalnin?
Ed Leedskalnin read a lot? ... like, Ford Model-T manuals describing magneto-flywheel starters.
Check out the distribution of the starters ... magneto waves.
and then ... RING the BELL-housings.
Just make sure that you ... RING the BELL-housings ... Twice!
: )
cosmic-cam
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Letter to keelynet.com 01/27/2009
re: Model T Magnetic Engine - 04/06/97
Hello to jdecker,
Excellent article ... just one thing ...
Shame that there was no mention of Mr. Edward Leedskalnin. ...
Is this the same "Magnetic Flywheel" used by the magnetic genius ... Ed Leedskalnin?
Ed Leedskalnin read a lot? ... like, Ford Model-T manuals describing magneto-flywheel starters.
Check out the distribution of the starters ... magneto waves.
and then ... RING the BELL-housings.
Just make sure that you ... RING the BELL-housings ... Twice!
: )
cosmic-cam
jes its so.
i have te pic of tis construction. Mr Ford sayd. Ithat this model of genartor was so designed, than it can run (without te gasoline moto) that
T-Ford car, IF the oil industry make im any problems... So an great secret must (possibly be) in this device. ANY specialist know mor over this?
Gustav Pese
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Hello Gustav Pese,
Thanks for your reply ...
I am interested discussions about Mr. Edward Leedskalnin and his ingenius use of old Ford Model-T car parts. Specifically, how Ed Leedskalnin used the Ford Model-T car ... magneto ignition system ... parts for his Magnetic-Current flywheel.
The Ford Model-T ... magneto ignition system ... used only 1 tier ( 1 x 24 magnets ) of Model-T
Vee-magnets on the bolts-side of Fords, vertically positioned, Model-T circular flywheel-plate.
Ed Leedskalnin customizations / modifications entailed ( at the least ... ) :
1. Ed. L ... used the reverse-side of the Model-T circular flywheel plate, as a base for his Magnetic-
Current flywheel.
2. Ed. L ... added 4 more tiers ( 5 x 24 magnets ) of Model-T Vee-magnets to his Magnetic-Current
flywheel. Ed has now boosted Fords, strong, magneto-flywheel ... a five-fold increase. Very strong!
3. Ed. L ... added copper wire ... Is this added flywheel support?
4. Ed. L ... added cement ... Just for added flywheel weight?
Would we find copper wire windings ( or steel wire winding? ) around each Vee-magnet? ( hidden underneath the cement?) IF we could x-ray Ed's Magnetic-Current flywheel.
Funny ... has no one even bothered ( given permission ) to x-ray Ed's Magnetic-Current flywheel?
It's more than funny ... it's kinda strange or creepy that no one in our 'High-tech' world has even bothered to investigate this? Is this why Ed's ... Lab ... is 'maintained' as an amusement park?
5. Ed. L ... added an inner Iron-housing ( the 4-leaf clover shape ) ... above his cement-covered Magnetic-Current flywheel. This is where Ed begins to push his innovative envelope!
This is where Ed ... thinks beyond the 2-dimensional planes of the Ford Model-T Vee magnets
sitting on the 2-dimensional plane of his Magnetic-Current flywheel. Ed's understanding allows him to picture the 3-dimensional ... compound ... magnetic field/s that he is creating.
Ed is now going to Ring the Bell ! ... and not just once, but Twice!
: )
cheers Gustav Pese!
I am working on some diagrams for the above ...
cosmic-cam
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CORRECTION: for number of Vee-Magnets used by the Model-T Fords.
I had a better look at Ford's Model T history / manuals ... ( ie. correction re. my previous post )
The early Ford Model-T used ... 16 ... Permanent Vee-Magnets ( not 24 magnets )
( on the front-side of their Model-T transmission Flywheel )
Ford's Model-T magneto Flywheel assembly –
360* / 16 magnets = 22.5 degrees between magnet poles
Edward Leedskalnin's magneto Flywheel assembly –
360* / 24 magnets = 15.0 degrees between magnet poles ( important changes )
Therefore, I must also make the following correction:
re: Ed Leedskalnin customizations / modifications entailed ( at the least ... ) :
Ed Leedskalnin, consciously CHANGED the radius of his Magnetic Current flywheel
from that used by the Model-T Ford flywheel ...
to accomodate the 360* / 24 magnets = 15.0 degrees between magnet poles.
Not to mention his using 5 layers of magnets ...
another correction ... is that about a 7.5 fold increase in magnetic strength?
Now ... looking again at the Code 144 and Coral Castle Code ... Websites ( Beautiful work there! )
and it looks like,
Ed knew exactly what he was up to and knew exactly what he had to design-CHANGE!
p.s.
Gustav Pese
Look at the style of Bell that Ed used. Specifically, look at the Bell clapper.
The Bell clapper ( which 'points' up to its own Bell, naturally ) ...
Is that not the same basic shape as ... 1 of Ed's Magnetic Currents?
( tiny diagram on the cover of Ed's book ... Magnetic Currents ).
Another funny coincidence.
: )
cheers
cosmic-cam
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i have a good news on the usefull tech in coral castle,
but no for who think to Ed mith ; looking for something un....
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6911.0;topicseen
i wait a your answere, especially if you think that the BASE is reach the same work in free energy, (not Over Unity)
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Everybody looks for "the big secret" to Ed's motor. Meanwhile, everybody ignores the pink elephant in the room.
Ed. Leedscalnin
Ron Hubbard
Stephan Marinov
What did they all have in common? They all used the same basic principle to produce near perpetual motion through AB effect.
What people don't seem to figure out is how they start the coil. The circuit must go through the inductor in order to separate the charge to initiate the AB effect.
Here is a link to some papers about Marinov's work that teach you how it gets done:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10074.msg266890#msg266890
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Sir
Marinov and the AB effect!!
More please!!
quarktoo
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ATTACHED is a primer to a practical demonstration of AB effect.
You will need to take special note the coil/motor starting procedure. You have to send the coil start/charge impulse through the core material from one side to the other. This splits the electron stream and traps the spin curl wave in the right place. That is the big secret to Leedskalnin's motor, Hubbards motor and a bunch of other stuff.
If you read the Seattle Intelligencer news paper account of Hubbard displaying his motor on the lake near Seattle, you will note how he had to strike a wire against an iron plate for nearly ten minutes to get the transformer up and running properly. As I recall, one of the attached papers also talks about the difficulty in getting it started in a similar fashion.
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Why the tapping ?
What is it really doing {the tapping]
Please !!
Chet
Ps
Thank you for still being here [no self banning in the above thread]
I was quite impressed with your self control!!
You are a teacher [so you've said]
TEACH!!
Stop tossing these beautiful seeds around like Chaff!
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Not sure what you mean by tapping. Do you mean striking the wire against the core with the core itself in the circuit during starting?
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quarktoo
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Not sure what you mean by tapping. Do you mean striking the wire against the core with the core itself in the circuit during starting?
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Yes, that is what I mean,why the "striking" for so long [10 min].?
What do you feel that is doing??
Chet
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It is hit and miss on getting the spin curl wave in motion.
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What kind of environment does it take to attempt to make
a spin curl wave?
Where could I study about this "spin Curl wave".
Could a mental midget such as myself even understand this?
Chet
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How are you even writing just one sentence responces?
Isn't that painful?
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your should read this before getting too excited
http://www.rexresearch.com/hubbard/hubbard.htm
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your should read this before getting too excited
http://www.rexresearch.com/hubbard/hubbard.htm
I have read all that from lots of different sites over the years. Why would that keep a person from getting excited? Because of the radium claim?
There are lots of people that suspect the radium claim is false. Marinov proved that energy could be tapped without it.
Here is a quote from a patent that could get you excited again if you want to get past the disinfo. and explore the possibility of a polarized spin curl wave.
http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2007103020&IA=WO2007103020&DISPLAY=DESC
"Newspaper photos (Anon. 1920a) of a more impressive demonstration of Hubbard's fuelless generator show a device described as 14 inches (36 cm) long and 1 1 inches (28 cm) in diameter connected by four heavy electrical cables to a 35-horsepower (26 kW) electric motor. The motor reportedly propelled an 18-foot open launch around a lake at a speed of 8 to 10 knots (Anon. 1920b). The event was witnessed by a cautious news reporter who claims to have checked thoroughly for any wires that might have been connected to hidden batteries by lifting the device and motor from the boat. Radioactive-decay energy can be eliminated as the main power source because about 108 times more radium than the entire
world's supply would have been needed to equal Hubbard's reported electric energy output of 330 amperes and 124 volts.
Lester J. Hendershot of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, reportedly demonstrated a fuelless generator in 1928 that was claimed by Hubbard to be a copy of his own device (1928h). The president of Stout Air Services, William B. Stout, who also designed the Ford Trimotor airplane, reported (1928b): "The demonstration was very impressive. It was actually uncanny . . . . The small model appeared to operate exactly as Hendershot explained it did." Also reportedly attesting to the operability of Hendershot's fuelless generator were Colonel Charles A. Lindbergh and Major Thomas Lanphier of the U.S. Air Corps (1928a, et seg.), and Lanphier's troops reportedly assembled a working model of the device.
To the Applicant's best knowledge, the only depiction that was made public of the interior components of any of these reported generators consists of a sketchy drawing (Bermann 1928h) of Hubbard's apparatus similar in size to the device shown in his 1919 demonstration. It depicts a complex set of parallel coils measuring 6 inches (15 cm) in length and 4.5 inches (1 1.4 cm) overall in diameter. Four leads of insulated wire with the insulation peeled back are shown coming out of the end of the device. What those four wires were connected to internally was not shown. Hubbard's description of the internal arrangement of coils in the device generally matches the drawing (Anon. 1920a): "It is made up of a group of eight electro-magnets, each with primary and secondary windings of copper wire, which are arranged around a large steel core. The core likewise has a single winding. About the entire group of cells is a secondary winding." Nothing was reported or depicted about how components functioned with each other, or how much radium was used and where the radium was positioned. The only connectors visible on the drawing were between the outer windings of the eight electromagnet coils. Theses connectors show that the direction of the windings alternated between clockwise and counterclockwise on adjacent coils, so that the polarity of each electromagnet would have been opposite to that of its adjacent neighbors.
If the Hubbard and Hendershot devices actually operated as reported, they apparently never attained acceptance or commercial success. Assuming the devices actually worked, their lack of success may have largely been financially based or supply-based, or both, compounded with skepticism from believers in the universal energy-conservation doctrine. How much radium was employed by Hubbard in his larger generator can only be guessed at, but assuming a typical laboratory radium needle containing 10 milligrams of radium was used, this amount would have cost $900 in 1920, dropping to $500 in 1929."
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That is Barbat's patent app.
Notice the shorted coil that he calls the magnifying coil? Did he ever build this and share any results?
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That is Barbat's patent app.
Notice the shorted coil that he calls the magnifying coil? Did he ever build this and share any results?
I don't know but I recall it looking exactly like the Hubbard coil in his patent. He is probably just holding the patent for someone. Why don't you call him up and ask him?
William Barbat
14580 Wilmot Way
Lake Oswego, OR 97035
(503) 697-1690
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Grumpy make the call!!
If you don't I will (if you give me Some questions)
Chet
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I have his email
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Well I just spent the last 10 minutes listening to William,
A wonderful man!
Grumpy I said you might call
He loves to talk,but has not gone public ,thinks he has a company ready to step up.
Spoke a lot about low mass electrons,said he's having chemical problems?
And the only coils he had working in any way were very .fragile
If I remember more I'll post it.
Chet
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Grumpy,I think You said your first name once at another Forum
That's the name (first name only) that I said may be calling.
He's a really cool guy
PPS
I told him we were just a few friends that were very impressed with his patent (fascinated actually)
and we were trying to understand it .
He will probably require an NDA ,but the jist of it is on these pages as
The buzz has said
Because I read the info that buzz gave (2links)before I called ,a lot of it clicked
I also ask if there were any "elements" involved(as in the Hubbard)
He said no!
That's when he went into the low mass semi conductor deal.
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Well I just spent the last 10 minutes listening to William,
A wonderful man!
Grumpy I said you might call
He loves to talk,but has not gone public ,thinks he has a company ready to step up.
Spoke a lot about low mass electrons,said he's having chemical problems?
And the only coils he had working in any way were very .fragile
If I remember more I'll post it.
Chet
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Grumpy,I think You said your first name once at another Forum
That's the name (first name only) that I said may be calling.
He's a really cool guy
PPS
I told him we were just a few friends that were very impressed with his patent (fascinated actually)
and we were trying to understand it .
He will probably require an NDA ,but the jist of it is on these pages as
The buzz has said
Because I read the info that buzz gave (2links)before I called ,a lot of it clicked
I also ask if there were any "elements" involved(as in the Hubbard)
He said no!
That's when he went into the low mass semi conductor deal.
I read through the patent a year or two ago and yep, you just reminded me about that low mass comment. I have no clue what that would be but here is my guess.
That would not explain the free energy so maybe it means that the field is accelerated, electrons are fractured and resulting in mass to atomic energy conversion. After collision, mass is reduced as energy is converted. Not all particles have the same mass/energy level to begin with.
What if the inner and outer coils pump each other faster and faster. That could account for the fragility of the coils since the insulation would break down pretty fast. Higher voltage = higher electron velocity.
I don't have clue about the low mass semi conductor. I live about 15 minutes away from the guy and thought about looking him up but never have.
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quarktoo
Call him sometime ,He's a good man.
Chet
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www.planetary-engineering.com (http://www.planetary-engineering.com)
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www.planetary-engineering.com (http://www.planetary-engineering.com)
You should team up with Gravity Block. If you look for patterns in anything, you will find them because everything in the universe is connected. Problem is, the pattern only tells the story you assign to it and the pattern may have no meaning at all or a completely different meaning.
The Movie A Beautiful Mind is about such a person working on a code project. The obsession of looking for the pattern blocks out everything going on all around you.
I will try and put an experiment together regarding Ed's motor that will have a classically trained academic scratching their head for eternity if they use classic EM as an attempt to explain it. To understand ED's motor, you would have to undo some of the mistakes Einstein made when he screwed up Dirac and Maxwell's work - just to name a few.
A particle is made of two waves. One is anchored in a light speed faster and the other anchored in a light speed slower. There is a reason we can only account for 4% of the light in the universe. The other 96% is not in this frame of time.
Maybe when Ed made his motor, he was just killing some time?
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Sir ,
The Marinov motor and Eds motor
can you explain some more?
seems as if your words below speak the absolute truth
quarktoo
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I try and put an experiment together regarding Ed's motor that will have a classically trained academic scratching their head for eternity if they use classic EM as an attempt to explain it. To understand ED's motor, you would have to undo some of the mistakes Einstein made when he screwed up Dirac and Maxwell's work - just to name a few.
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Chet
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G'day hoptoad and all,
From what I have read the stones were transported there by truck when he had to move.
Hans von Lieven
What ed was doing was taking the electron / magneton pairs out of the atmosphere and seperating them or lets say sends them where they each ultimately want to go now they are split. the magneton goes straight to the middle of the earth and the electron rips around and around the rotating magnets, he seperates the two then discards the magneton and collects the electron..It is a Gravity Well. This device could enable ed to have powered a great city if he had the time. This Gravity Well will match any load put to it and pulls out all the gravity from the area under the tripod in effect. As one could not push the tripod down the high way :not in broad daylight anyway: one would choose to travel by truck.