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Author Topic: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!  (Read 28679 times)

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #75 on: December 31, 2014, 12:24:59 AM »
There is a rival team working in a secret location!

They also refurbish Daleks as a sideline.   8)

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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #76 on: December 31, 2014, 04:06:09 AM »
I have a pink unicorn in my backyard. (Thanks TK)

Of course, if you look at it, it will not look pink nor will it look like a unicorn...but...you just do not know how to look correctly.

Some guy on the EF forum is going to replicate my unicorn so, there is your proof.  Enough said.

If you doubt me then you are short sighted and do not care about the planet nor anyone else but yourself.  Also, if the EF guy can not replicate my unicorn then, he just lacked the skills but, since he tried to, it proves I am correct.

Is this seriously the level of "scientific" reasoning that we have degraded to?

What ever happened to real proof?  Hell, Chet could not even name, nor describe, the anomaly that was "demonstrated" in the videos but, he is sure it is going to help mankind.  And, not knowing what that anomaly is does not matter because some guy on the EF forum is going to replicate it and hopefully get this same unknown/unnamed anomaly?

God help us.

Bill

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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #77 on: December 31, 2014, 05:28:32 AM »
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There is a rival team working in a secret location!They also refurbish Daleks as a sideline. 


I have to admit I did laugh out load when I read your post. two thumbs up.


You know it is strange that so many seem to take themselves so seriously and we make a little fun to liven things up and people come unglued. It is not so much what they believe but how they represent what they believe in my opinion. I'm glad there are still people around that aren't afraid to ask the hard questions and stir the pot a bit.


I understand I can go a little to far with my sarcastic sense of humor but I hope everyone understands there is no ill intent behind it, just the opposite and if I go to far I apologize in advance.


Merry Christmas and a happy new year everyone.
AC

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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #77 on: December 31, 2014, 05:28:32 AM »
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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #78 on: December 31, 2014, 06:22:48 AM »
There is something about higher frequencies that wont shock you as easily. this is just the characteristics of (high frequency high voltage ) much safer than 60 hz high voltage. This is what the big big secret all the buzz about cold electricity, its not really cold just not as shocking. has been know for many years but we still use the 60hz because the transformers work more efficiently at 50,60 hz frequencies. This video is completely in the 6th grade level. Generator runs a step up transformer then a step-down transformer. Turns on an unloaded saw.. so amp draw very minimal. Load that bad boy down cutting a salt treated 6x6 to get 1500watt. That was the first red flag. The second red flag was the saw slowing down as he turned on more heating elements.. this means voltage was falling off & therefore watts of heater  as well possible to the 60 -100 volt range judging from the unloaded saw. so now we have maybe 3 heaters at around 900 watt each an unloaded saw at 200 watt or so.. we are right in the range of a 4 hp motor. Completely normal operation. Since he made no input output measurements, that is red flag number 3.  O yeah and the final nail in the coffin was its not looped if he has so much power why not run the generator from an electric motor. 3 red flags and a nail in the coffin equals total bullshit. Sad thing is it seems from the video he actually believes he is over-unity somehow.

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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #79 on: December 31, 2014, 06:46:11 AM »
There is something about higher frequencies that wont shock you as easily. this is just the characteristics of (high frequency high voltage ) much safer than 60 hz high voltage. This is what the big big secret all the buzz about cold electricity, its not really cold just not as shocking. has been know for many years but we still use the 60hz because the transformers work more efficiently at 50,60 hz frequencies. This video is completely in the 6th grade level. Generator runs a step up transformer then a step-down transformer. Turns on an unloaded saw.. so amp draw very minimal. Load that bad boy down cutting a salt treated 6x6 to get 1500watt. That was the first red flag. The second red flag was the saw slowing down as he turned on more heating elements.. this means voltage was falling off & therefore watts of heater  as well possible to the 60 -100 volt range judging from the unloaded saw. so now we have maybe 3 heaters at around 900 watt each an unloaded saw at 200 watt or so.. we are right in the range of a 4 hp motor. Completely normal operation. Since he made no input output measurements, that is red flag number 3.  O yeah and the final nail in the coffin was its not looped if he has so much power why not run the generator from an electric motor. 3 red flags and a nail in the coffin equals total bullshit. Sad thing is it seems from the video he actually believes he is over-unity somehow.
RF imparts current just as easily as LF.  The difference is that your nervous system doesn't register it.  So you may not feel an incapacitating shock, and your muscles might not seize, but your tissues can get cooked just as easily.

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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #80 on: December 31, 2014, 07:34:49 AM »
You want data on the Gerard Morin experiments?

Here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cALB8ZF_swU

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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #81 on: December 31, 2014, 03:06:28 PM »
You want data on the Gerard Morin experiments?

Here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cALB8ZF_swU


Good vid. Proves what I've said all along.
However, the idea of stepping up voltage  and stepping down again reminds me of Don Smith's ideas.
My opinion is that they need to step up the frequency into the khz region.
Pity he couldn't get a light bulb to light, that's the easy part.

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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #82 on: December 31, 2014, 03:13:38 PM »
You want data on the Gerard Morin experiments?

Here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cALB8ZF_swU

Some notes:
It's a mistake to rely on the power supply's built-in meters for power measurements. They are there for the purpose of setting the PSU to the researcher's desired voltage and current-limit range, but for any kind of quantitative measurement the voltage and current output should be measured in the usual way: by good high impedance voltmeter in parallel, and an inline low impedance ammeter or by monitoring voltage drop across an inline low-resistance current viewing resistor. Ideally this should be done with a good amount of smoothing capacitance in the output of the PSU.
In this particular "ballpark" case I'm not objecting too much, I do it myself when the input power isn't too important to what I'm showing, but it's something to bear in mind.

Next, note that the 60 watt light bulb puts a _greater load_ on the system than the dead short. Many people seem to think that a dead short represents the greatest load one can put on a generator. But it's not always the case, as I have repeatedly noted and as Russ's demonstration shows. See "maximum power transfer theorem" in your favorite reference library. This is also shown quite well when Russ hooks up the spark gap: The shorted gap is _less_ of a load than the opened gap with a spark happening in it.

Next, the voltage and current in the whole system are going to be nice sinusoidal AC, well behaved... UNTIL the spark gap is opened and making sparks. Then, all "hell" will break loose, with EMI, large HV spikes and all the measurement problems associated with those features. Yes, even "cold electricity", "radiant", that is more properly termed HV RF noise. You can see the PSU current meter fluctuating quite a bit when this starts, but the drive motor speed is constant. This means, I believe, that the meter is being affected by the EMI, not that the supply current to the motor is fluctuating that much.

Next, when the second HV transformer is connected _through the spark gap_ we now have a situation where an inductive load is being driven by a noisy, rapidly interrupted HV source. When this is done properly, using air-core tuned resonant inductors... you will experience some rather extreme phenomena, like Voltage Rise by Standing Wave Resonance (VRSWR) which is the basis of the standard Tesla Coil operation, with all the effects of such operation, like power transmission through space, vivid corona displays, "cold electricity" and so on. But in this case a cored coil is being driven without regard to resonant tuning, so the efficiencies of a true Tesla Coil system will not be attained. But... as is demonstrated, the EMI still adversely affects instruments in the near vicinity.

Next, the apparatus now is producing HF RF with a lot of noise (both audio and radio noise, but it's the radio frequency noise that is significant). There is no longer a purely sinusoidal signal in the system after the spark gap. Under these conditions, wires are no longer just "wires", they are also significant inductances, and also antennae for radiating and receiving the EMI from the noisy spark-gap-driven heavier inductors. Now it is even affecting the tachometer-- in order to get a display the instrument apparently has to be moved away from the radiators.

Next, when there is an arc happening in the vapor lamp, its resistance is quite low. As the demonstration shows at every stage, a direct short, or low resistance, is actually _less_ of a load on the system than are loads of higher impedance.

Russ, I know you have an oscilloscope or two. One wonders why you did not simply use a scope to provide a continuous and accurate monitoring of the actual frequency of the output of the AC generator, which would give you a precise RPM value, without having to hold the tachometer or struggle with its errors.  When the system includes the opened spark gap, there are things happening that you can only see by using another oscilloscope, monitoring various nodes in the circuit.

Thank you for putting together this demonstration. I'm looking forward to the next iteration, and I hope you will show some scoposcopy. There is nothing that says "Free Energy" like squiggly colored lines... or not.

 ;)

--TK


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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #83 on: December 31, 2014, 03:58:28 PM »
Tinsel
Thank you for your input


truly appreciated.


respectfully
Chet

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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
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Gerard Morin Test
« Reply #84 on: January 02, 2015, 06:39:47 PM »
I did this test with capacitors in parallel I get better results see diagram

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« Reply #85 on: January 02, 2015, 11:39:58 PM »
I did this test with capacitors in parallel I get better results see diagram

Care to tell us the results?

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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #86 on: January 02, 2015, 11:56:05 PM »
(This video is completely in the 6th grade level. Generator runs a step up transformer then a step-down transformer. Turns on an unloaded saw.. so amp draw very minimal. Load that bad boy down cutting a salt treated 6x6 to get 1500watt. That was the first red flag. The second red flag was the saw slowing down as he turned on more heating elements.. this means voltage was falling off & therefore watts of heater  as well possible to the 60 -100 volt range judging from the unloaded saw. so now we have maybe 3 heaters at around 900 watt each an unloaded saw at 200 watt or so.. we are right in the range of a 4 hp motor.)

The McCulloch pancake generators are very inefficient mechanically, they have a large magnetic flywheel as opposed to more efficient generators which employ a small rotor.  However the induction efficiency should be fairly decent, and they should produce a pure sine wave, as there is no ferrous core material, just air coils.

McCulloch produced four different models as far as hp/wattage goes. The three hp Briggs Stratton motor powered a 1200 watt model, the four hp a 1500 watt model, the 5 hp powered a 2000 watt model, and the 6 hp a 3300 watt model.

When Morin's amp meter displayed 11 amps, that was what he was truly putting into the transformer, at 110 volts, somewhere in the neighborhood of 1250 watts.


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Re: Cold Electricity Breakthrough With Two Tank Transformers! Must Watch!
« Reply #87 on: January 04, 2015, 04:59:27 PM »


When Morin's amp meter displayed 11 amps, that was what he was truly putting into the transformer, at 110 volts, somewhere in the neighborhood of 1250 watts.

Looking at the video again I see I was mistaken about the amperage reading... the meter shows the consumption to be quite low at 1.1 amp. It sure looks like an anomaly to me.

 

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