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ramset

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Re: Leedskalnin
« Reply #60 on: December 13, 2010, 07:36:01 PM »
quarktoo
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Not sure what you mean by tapping. Do you mean striking the wire against the core with the core itself in the circuit during starting?
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Yes, that is what I mean,why the "striking" for so long [10 min].?
What do you feel that is doing??

Chet

quarktoo

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Re: Leedskalnin
« Reply #61 on: December 13, 2010, 07:56:04 PM »
It is hit and miss on getting the spin curl wave in motion.

ramset

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Re: Leedskalnin
« Reply #62 on: December 13, 2010, 11:00:23 PM »
What kind of environment does it take to attempt to make
a spin curl wave?
Where could I study about this "spin Curl wave".

Could a mental midget such as myself even understand this?

Chet
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How are you even writing just one sentence responces?
Isn't that painful?

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Re: Leedskalnin
« Reply #63 on: December 14, 2010, 01:24:43 AM »
your should read this before getting too excited
http://www.rexresearch.com/hubbard/hubbard.htm





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Re: Leedskalnin
« Reply #64 on: December 14, 2010, 06:00:13 AM »
your should read this before getting too excited
http://www.rexresearch.com/hubbard/hubbard.htm

I have read all that from lots of different sites over the years. Why would that keep a person from getting excited? Because of the radium claim?

There are lots of people that suspect the radium claim is false. Marinov proved that energy could be tapped without it.

Here is a quote from a patent that could get you excited again if you want to get past the disinfo. and explore the possibility of a polarized spin curl wave.


http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2007103020&IA=WO2007103020&DISPLAY=DESC

"Newspaper photos (Anon. 1920a) of a more impressive demonstration of Hubbard's fuelless generator show a device described as 14 inches (36 cm) long and 1 1 inches (28 cm) in diameter connected by four heavy electrical cables to a 35-horsepower (26 kW) electric motor. The motor reportedly propelled an 18-foot open launch around a lake at a speed of 8 to 10 knots (Anon. 1920b). The event was witnessed by a cautious news reporter who claims to have checked thoroughly for any wires that might have been connected to hidden batteries by lifting the device and motor from the boat. Radioactive-decay energy can be eliminated as the main power source because about 108 times more radium than the entire

world's supply would have been needed to equal Hubbard's reported electric energy output of 330 amperes and 124 volts.

Lester J. Hendershot of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, reportedly demonstrated a fuelless generator in 1928 that was claimed by Hubbard to be a copy of his own device (1928h). The president of Stout Air Services, William B. Stout, who also designed the Ford Trimotor airplane, reported (1928b): "The demonstration was very impressive. It was actually uncanny . . . . The small model appeared to operate exactly as Hendershot explained it did." Also reportedly attesting to the operability of Hendershot's fuelless generator were Colonel Charles A. Lindbergh and Major Thomas Lanphier of the U.S. Air Corps (1928a, et seg.), and Lanphier's troops reportedly assembled a working model of the device.

To the Applicant's best knowledge, the only depiction that was made public of the interior components of any of these reported generators consists of a sketchy drawing (Bermann 1928h) of Hubbard's apparatus similar in size to the device shown in his 1919 demonstration. It depicts a complex set of parallel coils measuring 6 inches (15 cm) in length and 4.5 inches (1 1.4 cm) overall in diameter. Four leads of insulated wire with the insulation peeled back are shown coming out of the end of the device. What those four wires were connected to internally was not shown. Hubbard's description of the internal arrangement of coils in the device generally matches the drawing (Anon. 1920a): "It is made up of a group of eight electro-magnets, each with primary and secondary windings of copper wire, which are arranged around a large steel core. The core likewise has a single winding. About the entire group of cells is a secondary winding." Nothing was reported or depicted about how components functioned with each other, or how much radium was used and where the radium was positioned. The only connectors visible on the drawing were between the outer windings of the eight electromagnet coils. Theses connectors show that the direction of the windings alternated between clockwise and counterclockwise on adjacent coils, so that the polarity of each electromagnet would have been opposite to that of its adjacent neighbors.

If the Hubbard and Hendershot devices actually operated as reported, they apparently never attained acceptance or commercial success. Assuming the devices actually worked, their lack of success may have largely been financially based or supply-based, or both, compounded with skepticism from believers in the universal energy-conservation doctrine. How much radium was employed by Hubbard in his larger generator can only be guessed at, but assuming a typical laboratory radium needle containing 10 milligrams of radium was used, this amount would have cost $900 in 1920, dropping to $500 in 1929."

sigma16

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Re: Leedskalnin
« Reply #65 on: December 14, 2010, 08:18:10 PM »
That is Barbat's patent app.

Notice the shorted coil that he calls the magnifying coil?  Did he ever build this and share any results?

quarktoo

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Re: Leedskalnin
« Reply #66 on: December 14, 2010, 09:22:26 PM »
That is Barbat's patent app.

Notice the shorted coil that he calls the magnifying coil?  Did he ever build this and share any results?

I don't know but I recall it looking exactly like the Hubbard coil in his patent. He is probably just holding the patent for someone. Why don't you call him up and ask him?

William Barbat
14580 Wilmot Way
Lake Oswego, OR 97035

(503) 697-1690

ramset

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Re: Leedskalnin
« Reply #67 on: December 14, 2010, 09:27:28 PM »
Grumpy make the call!!

If you don't I will (if you give me Some questions)

Chet

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Re: Leedskalnin
« Reply #68 on: December 14, 2010, 10:09:47 PM »
I have his email

ramset

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Re: Leedskalnin
« Reply #69 on: December 14, 2010, 10:20:18 PM »
Well I just spent the last 10 minutes listening to William,
A wonderful man!

Grumpy I said you might call
He loves to talk,but has not gone public ,thinks he has a company ready to step up.

Spoke a lot about low mass electrons,said he's having chemical problems?
And the only coils he had working in any way were very .fragile



If I remember more I'll post it.

Chet
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Grumpy,I think You said your first name once at another Forum
That's the name (first name only) that I said may be calling.
He's a really cool guy
PPS
I told him we were just a few friends that were very impressed with his patent (fascinated actually)
and we were trying to understand it .
He will probably require an NDA ,but the jist of it is on these pages as
The buzz has said
Because I read the info that buzz gave (2links)before I called ,a lot of it clicked
I also ask if there were any "elements" involved(as in the Hubbard)
He said no!
That's when he went into the low mass semi conductor deal.

quarktoo

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Re: Leedskalnin
« Reply #70 on: December 14, 2010, 11:49:57 PM »
Well I just spent the last 10 minutes listening to William,
A wonderful man!

Grumpy I said you might call
He loves to talk,but has not gone public ,thinks he has a company ready to step up.

Spoke a lot about low mass electrons,said he's having chemical problems?
And the only coils he had working in any way were very .fragile



If I remember more I'll post it.

Chet
PS
Grumpy,I think You said your first name once at another Forum
That's the name (first name only) that I said may be calling.
He's a really cool guy
PPS
I told him we were just a few friends that were very impressed with his patent (fascinated actually)
and we were trying to understand it .
He will probably require an NDA ,but the jist of it is on these pages as
The buzz has said
Because I read the info that buzz gave (2links)before I called ,a lot of it clicked
I also ask if there were any "elements" involved(as in the Hubbard)
He said no!
That's when he went into the low mass semi conductor deal.

I read through the patent a year or two ago and yep, you just reminded me about that low mass comment. I have no clue what that would be but here is my guess.

That would not explain the free energy so maybe it means that the field is accelerated, electrons are fractured and resulting in mass to atomic energy conversion. After collision, mass is reduced as energy is converted. Not all particles have the same mass/energy level to begin with.

What if the inner and outer coils pump each other faster and faster. That could account for the fragility of the coils since the insulation would break down pretty fast. Higher voltage = higher electron velocity.

I don't have clue about the low mass semi conductor. I live about 15 minutes away from the guy and thought about looking him up but never have.

ramset

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Re: Leedskalnin
« Reply #71 on: December 15, 2010, 12:27:59 AM »
quarktoo
Call him sometime ,He's a good man.

Chet
« Last Edit: December 15, 2010, 09:45:24 AM by ramset »

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Re: Leedskalnin
« Reply #72 on: December 15, 2010, 05:42:56 AM »

quarktoo

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Re: Leedskalnin
« Reply #73 on: December 15, 2010, 11:18:21 AM »
www.planetary-engineering.com

You should team up with Gravity Block. If you look for patterns in anything, you will find them because everything in the universe is connected. Problem is, the pattern only tells the story you assign to it and the pattern may have no meaning at all or a completely different meaning.

The Movie A Beautiful Mind is about such a person working on a code project. The obsession of looking for the pattern blocks out everything going on all around you.

I will try and put an experiment together regarding Ed's motor that will have a classically trained academic scratching their head for eternity if they use classic EM as an attempt to explain it. To understand ED's motor, you would have to undo some of the mistakes Einstein made when he screwed up Dirac and Maxwell's work - just to name a few.

A particle is made of two waves. One is anchored in a light speed faster and the other anchored in a light speed slower. There is a reason we can only account for 4% of the light in the universe. The other 96% is not in this frame of time.

Maybe when Ed made his motor, he was just killing some time?


ramset

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Re: Leedskalnin
« Reply #74 on: December 15, 2010, 11:24:16 AM »
Sir ,
The Marinov motor and Eds motor
can you explain some more?
seems as if your words below speak the absolute truth
quarktoo
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I try and put an experiment together regarding Ed's motor that will have a classically trained academic scratching their head for eternity if they use classic EM as an attempt to explain it. To understand ED's motor, you would have to undo some of the mistakes Einstein made when he screwed up Dirac and Maxwell's work - just to name a few.

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Chet