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Offline Grumpy

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Re: Leedskalnin
« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2007, 09:01:27 PM »
One failed experiment or "null" result is not a definitive answer to the question of wether or not an "ether" exists.

Einstein had this to say:

As late as 1920, Einstein himself still spoke of a type of ether that was not a ?ponderable medium? but something of significance nonetheless:

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?...More careful reflection teaches us, however, that the special theory of relativity does not compel us to deny ether. We may assume the existence of an ether... Recapitulating, we may say that according to the general theory of relativity space is endowed with physical qualities; in this sense, therefore, there exists an ether... According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is unthinkable; for in such space there not only would be no propagation of light, but also no possibility of existence for standards of space and time (measuring-rods and clocks), nor therefore any space-time intervals in the physical sense. But this ether may not be thought of as endowed with the quality characteristic of ponderable media, as consisting of parts which may be tracked through time. The idea of motion may not be applied to it.?


So, it would seem that the MM experiment actually was "successful", and that a modification of the concept of the ether was the result.

Einstein, Maxwell, Thompson, Tesla, Helmholtz and many other great minds that shaped science all believed in an "ether".

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« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2007, 09:01:27 PM »

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« Reply #31 on: October 16, 2007, 09:53:14 PM »
G'day Grumpy and all,

I was not commenting on the existence or non-existence of an ether, I was simply clarifying what the Michelson Morley experiment was all about and how it is still viewed by mainstream science. My comments were simply an answer to the following as stated by Elvis:

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There was a recent experiment at a university somewhere that confirmed the existance of Aether.  It was a duplicate of the original experiment that "proved" there was no aether (100 years ago?) - but this time they measured it right.  If anyone has a link to that info... I would like to include it in the first post to preempt all the brainwashed engineers.

If he takes my advice and reads up on it he might then be able to explain how all of us engineers are brainwashed into false beliefs. At least at this stage it would appear that the mentioned engineers are a lot better informed than those who call them brainwashed.

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« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2007, 01:19:25 AM »
Hi all.....you know the more i read the more i see that Ed was the man.
For any who want to study Ed...go to my Yahoo group linked to leedskalnin.com
I think every engineer is misled, because if Ed is correct then the electrons have nothing to do with electricity.
Even Tesla said the same thing if you study his works.
Tesla noticed pulsations in exploding wires.....
Moray said that if you put a matter under strain and let it go, 2 things may happen.
Ed said to roll up the 6 little magnets in your fingers (pressure), then let them loose...then you will see that they won't stay together.
Ed's notes explain how Tesla coils work, but the so called electrons never show up.
The energy from Tesla's coils travelled at 470, 000 kilometers per second.....faster than light.
The electrons were not responsible for that energy movement.
Einstein admitted there was an aether....
Ed said the North and South pole individual magnets are the aether...of cosmic force....
The alchemist says .... A yellow altar stood opposite me from which a pure flame ascended having no other substance for its alimentation than the altar itself. Letters in black were engraved at the base of the altar. A lighted torch stood beside it, shining like the sun; hovering above it was a bird with black feet, silvery body, a red head, black wings and a golden neck. It was in constant motion without however using its wings. It could only fly when in the midst of the flames. In its beak was a green branch......Altar, bird and torch are the symbol of all things. Nothing can be done without them. They themselves are all that is good and great.
Ed says..."I think that all nature needs is 3 things, the N and S pole individual magnets and the neutral particles. Each of those three things can act differently with different speed and different combinations, and so they can accomplish different results.
The guy who turned some silver to gold, by the yeast and water shows on his site about the bubbles expansion and contraction....
Ed writes that when he dissolves matter he sees a bubble coming out...then the other bubbles come out from the first in a regular line one after the other. When the first bubble swells up then it contracts in the middle and cuts off the new bubble and then closes up the outgoing end and then swells up again and goes over and over again.
Ed says...What is acid and what gives it the ability to take the other matter in parts..?
The one who will find out exactly how it is done will be a real scientist...Ed.L
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Offline Elvis Oswald

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« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2007, 06:27:29 AM »
First of all - *some* engineers are brainwashed.  And I was referring to those who are ;)
I say brainwashed because somewhere in time - science of electricity was put on the wrong path.
I'm not saying to throw out logic and reason... just that we should back up a bit.

I haven't found the link to the experiment that overturned Morley's results... but I am continuing to look.

My point here would be that ed knew something.  What did ed know?  Let's start with what he said...

Who's with me?

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« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2007, 07:45:08 AM »
Hi all...
Ed said " The real magnet is the SUBSTANCE circulating in the metal. Each particle is an INDIVIDUAL MAGNET BY ITSELF, and both North and South pole INDIVIDUAL MAGNETS.
They are so small they can pass through everything....
They are in constant motion.
They are running one kind of magnets against the other kind.
If guided in the right CHANNELS they possess perpetual power.
Each North and South pole magnet is equal in strength.
Each kind of the magnets are coming out of their own pole (in a bar magnet ) and are running around in the other end of the pole and back to its own end, and then over and over again.
The Earth itself is a great big magnet.
The magnets can be sent out in straight streams.
Whatever kind of magnet you send out...the other kind is coming back to you.

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« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2007, 07:45:08 AM »
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« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2007, 07:06:02 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7enRyRm3GBU

Investigative journalist Joe Bullard returned to discuss the mysteries surrounding Florida's Coral Castle and its creator Ed Leedskalnin. The Castle and its gardens feature thousands of tons of coral rock that Leedskalnin, a frail man who weighed just 100 pounds, carved into artistic yet functional objects such as tables and chairs, a sundial and a huge perfectly balanced gate. While he made and moved these objects in secret, he claimed he used the same technology that the Egyptians built the pyramids with.

Leedskalnin said he built Coral Castle for his lost love Agnes who jilted him back in Latvia, but Bullard suggested that this tale might have been a cleverly disguised cover story for hiding his secret knowledge and scientific achievements. When Leedskalnin was in a hospital in 1951, shortly before his death, thieves stole some of his tools. Bullard believes this might have been a planned confiscation.

Leedskalnin left a message over his bedroom at the site: THE SECRET OF THE UNIVERSE IS 7129/6105195. One caller said that was the number from Leedskalnin's federal application for citizenship; another caller related the number to the "golden ratio." Bullard's book Waiting for Agnes, a fictionalized account of the Coral Castle story, incorporates the lore of Atlantis and the Bermuda Triangle into the plot.

Joe Bullard was born in Florida in 1951. He attended the University of West Florida and graduated with a Bachelor's degree in Journalism in 1974. He found out about the Coral Castle on the television series called "In Search Of" in September of 1984. During this time he was working at Lake City Community College as Public Information Director and Professor of a newspaper class. Joe spent 10 years of research at Coral Castle and started writing "Waiting for Agnes" in February of 1995. It took him five years to get the story on paper and almost four years to publish it.

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« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2007, 08:49:00 AM »
@ BRAHMA:

I mentioned this book in an earlier post.  I heard an interview with the author on coast to coast am.  He did a lot of research but, not as scientific as it was more a personal interest story.  But still, he brought out a lot of interesting facts that are, to this day, hard to explain.  I believe that Ed knew more than we still know of today. What that is will have to be determined.


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« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2007, 08:51:02 AM »
Hi all....as far as i know there never was any plaque...just the numbers which can be seen here...
http://leedskalnin.com/7129x6105195.html
Also...Ed never built the place for Agnes....that would mean he did all the work for a 16 yo girl who was out getting a red face with a fresh boy....and that would be shameful.
Ed never had a girl because he knew it would produce certain effects that he did not want.


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Re: Leedskalnin
« Reply #38 on: November 22, 2007, 02:56:14 AM »
Hans this one seemed up your alley with vibration and color i like the picture aspect too check it out, it relates music to color and other ideas.

 http://www.coralcastlecode.com/id68.html
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« Reply #39 on: November 29, 2007, 02:33:28 PM »

The Leedskalnin story is quite interesting and not quite as far fetched as it sounds. Basically you have a guy who went to the middle of nowhere and spent many years doing experiments from first principles with an open mind (not previously indoctrinated by science). That sounds like a recipe for eventually learning something.  see url
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_principles

The major key I think we have is why else would we find the strange artifacts there. (The bottles with wire wrap and the photo with the tripod and box at the top). A builder often leaves his tools lying around. Also, somehow I don't think he wrote a book called "Magnetic current" just as a joke.


BTW, Scotty your web page is great, I've also seen some of your videos before and I applaud your efforts and thanks for sharing them. Great work with the wheel replica, keep us updated.

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Re: Leedskalnin
« Reply #40 on: November 29, 2007, 03:29:59 PM »
Here are some text files I found somewhere on the internet. I don't think they are copyrighted or at least I hope they aren't. I'm not sure if it is the complete Magcurrent book as I've never seen it.

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« Reply #41 on: November 29, 2007, 03:31:10 PM »
Sorry, here's part 1 and 2

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« Reply #42 on: November 29, 2007, 08:24:08 PM »
G'day Mr Mag and all,

For a complete and authentic copy of Ed's brochure on magnets go to http://www.leedskalnin.com You can download it from there

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« Reply #43 on: November 30, 2007, 12:03:02 AM »
Hi all....
I would recommend doing all Ed's tests.
They are all designed to show that electricity runs both ways in a wire.
The magnetic current bok contains Lenz's law and Oresteads tests are in there too....
The answer to how a disruptive discharge coil works is on page 7.....It explains Tesla coils and agrees with the notes of Henry Moray.
Ed knew what he was doing.
U shaped magnets have a broken orbit, but under the right conditions it is permanent...Ed.L
Ed describes his perpetual motion holder as the same as a ring of wire with current running in it....this means he is saying that a closed magnetic circuit DOES have motion in the metal.....contrary to what science says, and that the right hand thumb rule applies for both pos and neg currents going away from the direction you are looking.
The answer to how alternating currents can run so far is also on page 7 of Ed's notes....
I think all the answers are in Ed's notes...we just haven't found them yet.
Cheers
Scotty

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« Reply #44 on: November 30, 2007, 01:17:21 AM »
Attached is a pdf of Ed's book, Magnetic Current.

Where is this explanation of the disruptive discharge coil in this pdf?  (Page 7 talks about the earth's magnetic poles.)


Ed states at the bottom of page 37 that he has a small generator that generates currents on a small scale without any -magnets around it.
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