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Author Topic: Stubblefiled & Meucci  (Read 13870 times)

AbbaRue

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Re: Stubblefiled & Meucci
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2009, 06:29:30 AM »
@AhuraMazda
Thanks for the links about Thorium and the welding rods.
I already know about the dangers of Thorium. 
I don't intend on doing anything with the rods except place one in a sealed tube.
It would be a concern if I was going to grind the tip like welders do or use it for welding.
I don't think I would like to be welding for a living using these rods.

I think the res. freq. for these rods may be 1.22 MHz.
I wound 24AWG wire around the whole length of the rod, then placed it into a plastic straw.
I glue gun glued the both ends shut and only the 2 wire ends are sticking out.
When I connected my signal generator to the winding I get a second waveform on the scope at 1.22 MHz.
So I think this may be the res. freq. of the thorium.  1.22 MHz.
I will keep experimenting.  It would be awesome if this works.

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Re: Stubblefiled & Meucci
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2009, 05:59:24 PM »
Pirate88179

I came across this "Nuclear Reactor" as well a little while ago. I have tried something similar but with zero success, so far at least.

I wound about 15 turns of thick enamelled copper wire into a coil of roughly the same size as his "secondary winding" and soldered a 0.002 microfarad capacitor across the ends. I Put a 1mm thick pure thorium wire down the middle of the coil  both with and without a glass tube. The thorium wire is a good alpha emitter much the same or better than depleted U238.(see wikipedia)
I put a scope across the coil to see if there was any sign of oscillation, nothing at all. Shock excitation by charging up the C then connecting it across the coil with the thorium wire in place did nothing. The thorium had no effect at all on the coil as far as I could see. There may be a critical frequency or something, unfortunately we do not know the capacitor size. Anyway glass blocks alpha particle completely.
The picture may be a hoax of course.

Mike
 
   





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« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2009, 07:07:06 PM »
Mike:

Yes, it may well be a hoax, I don't really know.  I don't know anything else about it except Hans posted it in the earth battery topic some time ago.  I saved the picture because I thought it was interesting.  I have not done any research or experiments along this line at all.  I guess one can maybe google around and find where it came from?  There may be more information if this photo was originally on a website somewhere else.

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« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2009, 10:57:33 PM »
G'day all

You can see the picture of the reactor with much clearer labeling on

http://keelytech.com/stubblefield.html  The paper also talks about similar devices like Barbat.

Hans von Lieven

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« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2009, 01:02:10 AM »
My understanding of these nuclear batteries (resonant nuclear reactor) is that you can NOT use an alpha source and expect something to happen. You have to have a beta source to get the effect.

I remember when I first read about the nuclear battery, I though: great, I'll just get a bunch of smoke alarms, extract the Americium and voila. Then I found out that Americium is an alpha source and I needed a beta. Scrapped that idea then...

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« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2009, 02:59:18 AM »
I've failed to find the documentation but the pic looks almost identical to a patent filed for satellite power supplies.

The only things I remember...

1. The copper wire coils had to be completely bare
2. There was no material envelope.
3. It needed a sine-wave high power  RF signal for a kick-start
4. It was used in some early satellites by the US

If I find the documents I'll post them.

AhuraMazda

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Re: Stubblefiled & Meucci
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2009, 03:21:05 AM »
Any suggestion as to why "bare" wire is preferable rather than coated?

BEP

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« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2009, 04:35:48 AM »
There was but I only recall it sounding a bit wild. The info about the reaction bare wire had to the radiation sounded more like the effects of heat. The RF modulated the radiation. Modulation of charge was also mentioned. Since then I've stumbled on things worse so I really want to find the info now.

I believe the patent holder was finally a NASA scientist.

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« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2009, 08:05:38 AM »
I hope you can find the reference BEP, You have me really curious.

Hans von Lieven

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Re: Stubblefiled & Meucci
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2009, 11:48:16 AM »
I found the value of the fat white capacitor by blowing up the picture on:

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Resonant_Nuclear_Reactor

The white capacitor is 4.7 mfd !!!
I cannot see the value of the other brown capacitor.

Why would anyone produce a resonant circuit (if that is what it is) with a capacitor of this value connected across an inductor of only about 2 microhenries? From the component values alone this circuit has got to be nonsense.

Mike

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« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2009, 12:56:14 PM »
The pictured reactor surely is nonsense. I recall a top-hat type rectifier on the secondary with a disc type capacitor after it. It struck me as nothing more than a diode detector circuit. The tank cap was two metal discs with adjustable air gap. Surely no more than a few pf. I don't remember the frequencies but they were all in VHF and made sense for the circuit shown on the patent.

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« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2009, 06:23:37 PM »
As a final test I wound a coil similar to the secondary in the picture and connected a 3900 pf capacitor across it. I loosely coupled a small coil connected to a signal generator to it. The secondary resonated at 2.56 Mhz as viewed with an oscilloscope across the capacitor. I then put the pure thorium wire down the middle of the secondary and it had no effect at all on the amplitude or tuning of the secondary. Putting the thorium wire in a glass tube and then putting in the secondary had no effect either.

Mike

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« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2009, 09:39:32 PM »
WHAT IS HAPEND HERE  I MAST FIND THE GAGERS METER TO SEE  WHAT IS GOING HERE  <<  MAN  HERE WE MAKE  TPU  NO >>

URANIUM  GENERATORS    ???

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« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2009, 07:09:01 PM »
If this device is real it's so amazing!  It makes so much sense the way it's constructed, although I'm not an expert in those kinds of materials and how they behave in a resonant magnetic field. But if it starts to simpatheticly resonate with the tuned circuit, by logic we can see that the material obviously wants to expend energy or loose energy due to it's instability, which means energy will be given, or imparted to the magnetic field, by way of a phase change relative to the tank circuit resonance.  Much like negative resistance might create. 

EM

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Re: Stubblefiled & Meucci
« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2009, 02:33:47 AM »
Is it possible that the radiating material need's to be heated?